The Hobbit films, previously to be directed by Guillermo del Toro and now to be directed by Peter Jackson again.

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Oddly enough there didn't seem to be an actual thread for these yet, so.

Peter Jackson at Comic-Con -- script for first film near completion, budgeting and casting to follow. Films due in 2011 and 2012.

I've read somewhere that Mike Mignola will be joining the general design team, along with the usual WETA suspects plus Alan Lee and John Howe again.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 July 2009 00:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

hellboy/blade 2 director guillermo del toro is directing the hobbit movies under the watchful eye of peter jackson

won't be catching these then.

Bobkate Goldtwat (darraghmac), Saturday, 25 July 2009 00:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

although they will look fantastic, there's little doubt of that.

Bobkate Goldtwat (darraghmac), Saturday, 25 July 2009 00:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

I will definitely watch them.

chap, Saturday, 25 July 2009 00:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

If only to to offset darraghmac's non-watching policy

chap, Saturday, 25 July 2009 00:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

I'll definitely be seeing these, but I don't get why they need the 2 film treatment.

Moodles, Saturday, 25 July 2009 01:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

Supposedly the first one is the Hobbit story and the second film will take place in the interim between Hobbit and Fellowship. Could be good.

I have more faith in the Hellboy guy than the King Kong guy, for what it's worth.

Nate Carson, Saturday, 25 July 2009 01:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

Supposedly the first one is the Hobbit story and the second film will take place in the interim between Hobbit and Fellowship. Could be good.

What, so they're just making things up now? Tolkien franchise? Sounds crass. If it's not based on a book then wtf is it?

fields of salmon, Saturday, 25 July 2009 01:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

Supposedly the first one is the Hobbit story and the second film will take place in the interim between Hobbit and Fellowship.

That was an original plan but no longer -- as noted in the link above:

“There was talk about doing ‘The Hobbit’ as one movie and making an ‘Hobbit,’ and ‘Lord of the Rings,’ bridge movie. We didn’t really know ourselves but as we worked through the story line we thought ‘Well obviously we could squeeze ‘The Hobbit’ into one movie, but In a three hour movie you would be amazed at how much of the story you would have to lose.”

“The book, well the book is what the book is and we just worked through a process and included all the events that we we would like to see in the film, plus the fact that we wanted to embellish a few things and put a little extra narrative that includes Gandalf and what he was doing with the Necromancer and various side stories that are happening. So we decided really that the two movies we are doing would actually would be ‘The Hobbit.’ ”

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 July 2009 01:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

the first one is the Hobbit story and the second film will take place in the interim between Hobbit and Fellowship. Could be good.

Not sure how the first sentence and the second one work together.

General Pubic (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 July 2009 01:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

*cough* Um, my post? Just now?

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 July 2009 01:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

Frankly if they can drop Tom Bombadil from the LotR movies but fit that were-bear twat into the prequels then fuck them even more than I already wanna fuck 'em.

General Pubic (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 July 2009 01:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

I guess I just am comfortable with the fact that I read these books decades ago. So if someone wants to make a spectacular $200million fantasy film based on these properties, I'll gladly get high and watch them.

Nate Carson, Saturday, 25 July 2009 01:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

Sorry Ned. We crossed posts. Thanks for the illumination.

Nate Carson, Saturday, 25 July 2009 01:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

"Well obviously we could squeeze ‘The Hobbit’ into one movie, but In a three hour movie you would be amazed at how much of the story you would have to lose.”

Slightly heartening news, but not very heartening.

fields of salmon, Saturday, 25 July 2009 01:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

x-post -- No worries etc.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 July 2009 01:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

Really, all I want is for WETA and company to do the best dragon EVER on screen. I have a feeling they will.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 July 2009 01:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

Everyone who clicks on this thread will pay to see this movie. Quit frontin youse nerds!

Nate Carson, Saturday, 25 July 2009 01:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

Not everybody, I can guarantee.

General Pubic (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 July 2009 02:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

We had a discussion about D-Wars vs Reign of Fire last night (while watching the intolerably boring Sky Crawlers). I really enjoyed Dragon Wars, while Reign of Fire was hugely disappointing (88 minutes of dudes flexing, 2 minutes of dragons. WTF!).

So yeah--an epic SMAUG would be really timely.

Nate Carson, Saturday, 25 July 2009 02:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

So if they split it in two, wheredo they put the break? When Gandalf leaves them before Mirkwood, or at the end of the barrel riders?

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 25 July 2009 02:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

Leaving 'em before Mirkwood makes for a perfect cliffhanger as such, so probably that.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 July 2009 02:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

They could base it on the adventure game and leave them stuck in the Misty Mountains forever.

General Pubic (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 July 2009 02:14 (5 years ago) Permalink

Fleeing the Goblins with assist from the Eagles could be an epic ending.

Nate Carson, Saturday, 25 July 2009 02:15 (5 years ago) Permalink

It just depends if they want to spend an hour on the Battle of Five Armies or not.

Part of me doesn't want this to happen because I love the Rankin Bass version, warts and all. Plus, the voice of Smaug in that still gives me shivers. Plus, "Theodore".

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 25 July 2009 02:16 (5 years ago) Permalink

I hope they keep the song "15 birds, in 5 fir trees, their feathers were burned, in the fiery breeze..." I could go on and on.

Nate Carson, Saturday, 25 July 2009 02:17 (5 years ago) Permalink

Nate Carson, Saturday, 25 July 2009 02:18 (5 years ago) Permalink

Awesome Nate!

I can (and do) quote this movie all the time (and sing the songs). I've watched it every Christmas morning for the last 20-some years.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 25 July 2009 02:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

Not the right movie, but I was once in a band that did a cover of "Where There's A Whip."

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 25 July 2009 02:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

We had a discussion about D-Wars vs Reign of Fire last night

where does dragonslayer fit into this

鬼の手 (Edward III), Saturday, 25 July 2009 02:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

Saw Dragonslayer at the cinema when it came out. As a 12 year-old felt a bit cheated cos it was 90 minutes of build-up and 5 minutes of dragon-slaying action, but the gore was cool when it finally happened.

General Pubic (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 July 2009 02:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

d-wars is the most utter garbage!!!!!!! def watched reign of fire a lot as a kid. maybe four or five times.

ian, Saturday, 25 July 2009 02:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

Hey at least D-Wars has dragons in it. Reign of Fire is a bullshit tease. Could have been the best movie ever if they'd done it right. What a premise!

Nate Carson, Saturday, 25 July 2009 02:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

"Where There's a Whip, There's a Way" -- great song! Great lyric!

Nate Carson, Saturday, 25 July 2009 02:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

xx-post - Dragonslayer - yawn. There is a boob shot though, right?

I do like the dragon from Fritz Lang's Siegfried though. An oft-overlooked fantasy classic!

Nate Carson, Saturday, 25 July 2009 02:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

(actual dragon fight takes place about 4:20 in that clip btw).

Nate Carson, Saturday, 25 July 2009 02:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

Oh I've wanted a DVD of Nibelungen for years. Think there's a bunch of sub-Wagner mythology movies from the 10s and 20s, yeah?

General Pubic (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 July 2009 02:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yeah this is the only one I've seen. Really awesome. This is by no means the best part.

Nate Carson, Saturday, 25 July 2009 02:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

I had the idea that Eureka! had put out Lang's "Die Nibelungen" on DVD, but I can't find any ref to it whatsoever on their site. Kino do a 2DVD vers of it (which I got to admit I haven't got -I watched it on youtube :-/ ). The dragon is great! Best bits for me are the scenes in the primordial forest, which IIRC they built the sets for in an old Zeppelin hangar. Amazing visuals, throughout. Pt1 here:

f1f0 (Pashmina), Saturday, 25 July 2009 10:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

Just looked. Was confused in my inebriated state last night cos Amazon have the Kino release as a US import, but it seems to be Region 2.

General Pubic (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 July 2009 10:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

Hey at least D-Wars has dragons in it. Reign of Fire is a bullshit tease. Could have been the best movie ever if they'd done it right. What a premise!

― Nate Carson, Saturday, July 25, 2009 2:41 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Matthew McConaughey is pretty hilarious in it as the crazed baqld dragon-hunter from America

Panera - Vulgar Display Of Flour (latebloomer), Saturday, 25 July 2009 11:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

er that should be "bald"

Panera - Vulgar Display Of Flour (latebloomer), Saturday, 25 July 2009 11:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

hellboy/blade 2 director guillermo del toro is directing the hobbit movies under the watchful eye of peter jackson

won't be catching these then.

um, why? I think it's important to remember del toro is also (and more relevantly) the director of the devil's backbone and pan's labyrinth.

akm, Saturday, 25 July 2009 18:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

you say "director of pan's labyrinth" like thats a good thing...

the stain specialist (Viceroy), Saturday, 25 July 2009 20:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

I hope the vid game they make of this just involves floating in a darkened barrel.

bad-boy cartographer (Abbott), Saturday, 25 July 2009 20:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

...in your barrel, smelling your apples.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 July 2009 20:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

we wanted to embellish a few things and put a little extra narrative that includes Gandalf and what he was doing with the Necromancer

stop it!

JimD, Saturday, 25 July 2009 23:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

Having a torrid affair with the Necromancer

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 July 2009 23:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

Heh, yeah. I just think that it's important to the atmosphere of The Hobbit that when Gandalf disappears for big chunks of it, you don't really know where he's gone, or why, or whether he'll come back. I think filling in those gaps can only hurt the story.

(Although I've not read it for 20 years, I may be remembering wrongly - maybe he does explain all that stuff really).

JimD, Saturday, 25 July 2009 23:14 (5 years ago) Permalink

Betcha Middle-Earth has a magical creature with eyes in its hands that we won't have known about until this movie comes out.

Beanbag the Gardener (WmC), Saturday, 25 July 2009 23:16 (5 years ago) Permalink

Cut Scene: The Movie.

That looks absolutely unwatchable. For comparison's sake, I rewatched the "Return of the King" trailer, and check out how much more chill it is:

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 November 2014 03:18 (4 months ago) Permalink

Well that wasn't about the defining moment of Middle Earth, was it?

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 7 November 2014 06:38 (4 months ago) Permalink

Very little actual hobbit in that trailer.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 7 November 2014 12:25 (4 months ago) Permalink

That looks absolutely crappy.

Frederik B, Friday, 7 November 2014 12:35 (4 months ago) Permalink

"Errday Frrruduh moves clusserr to Murrrdrrr" haha

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 7 November 2014 13:08 (4 months ago) Permalink

Man if you guys can't get behind Elf King Lee Pace riding a giant moose into battle, Flava Flav can't do nothin' for ya.

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Friday, 7 November 2014 13:56 (4 months ago) Permalink

That looks absolutely crappy.

This is key, emphasis on looks. I still can't figure out why, with 10 years of new technology, more experience and an even greater familiarity with the subject matter/cast, these movies look so much more terrible. The sets, the make-up, the FX, everything. Just shitty.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 November 2014 14:19 (4 months ago) Permalink

Yeah there's some Xena level shit there, but without the self-parody.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 7 November 2014 14:42 (4 months ago) Permalink

Very little actual hobbit in that trailer.

― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, November 7, 2014

in fairness there's very little actual hobbit in this EPICAL THREE-PART MOTION PICTURE EVENT so

resulting post (rogermexico.), Friday, 7 November 2014 19:27 (4 months ago) Permalink

Maybe he will put out a director's cut of just Hobbit stuff.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 November 2014 19:28 (4 months ago) Permalink

There's just something really unappealing about a film called 'The Battle of Five Armies' especially when it seems one of the armies is a pack of bats? How are they going to spend three hours on elves and dwarves fighting bats?

Frederik B, Friday, 7 November 2014 23:15 (4 months ago) Permalink

It'll be like the bit in The Fellowship with the Crebain but 50 minutes long

tsrobodo, Saturday, 8 November 2014 01:42 (4 months ago) Permalink

How are they going to spend three hours on elves and dwarves fighting bats?

Probably the same way people spend hundreds of hours playing "Call of Duty" or whatever.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 8 November 2014 02:11 (4 months ago) Permalink

It'd be cool if the movie started with a tutorial level... ease you into things, learn how to fight lesser bats before you have to send the whole Hobbit army against the whole bat army.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 8 November 2014 04:03 (4 months ago) Permalink

If I remember correctly from the book Gandalf casts a spell that causes the bats and hobbits to combine as hobbats that fuck everybody up.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 8 November 2014 04:19 (4 months ago) Permalink

Watched the trailer & was all, "Is this a trailer for the second movie? Because I think I've seen every moment of this before, portentously uttered dialogue and all."

Still planning on angrily watching the third one at Cinerama, just like the first two, can't really account for it.

― heck (silby)

hardcore dilettante, Saturday, 8 November 2014 05:14 (4 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

(THIS POST HAS SOME SPOILERS FOR THE NEW MOVIE, THOUGH IF YOU'VE READ THE BOOK, MOST OF IT ISN'T REALLY SPOILING ANYTHING.)

So I just saw the new movie, and thought it was okay. Not as good as the first Hobbit, which I thought was a totally fun romp, but roughly on the same level as the second one. The problems were pretty much the same as with the second movie too: everything was a bit too serious and grey, not much fun and adventure anymore, though I guess it was more acceptable for the grand finale than the middle episode. There were also some overtly extended fight scenes: in particular, Legolas gets a final battle that goes on waayyy too long, it feels more like a special effects showcase than something organic to the movie. On the other hand, Thorin's last stand was done nicely, it had an well-staged, effective setting (an icy lake that slowly keeps crumbling around Thorin and his opponent), and it doesn't overstay its welcome.

As with the previous movie, the 48FPS/3D combination is disracting at first, but it makes the more complex action scenes look really good. The actual Battle of the Five Armies is probably the best part of the movie, the way the technlology allows Jackson to create this layered canvas where you can follow every moving piece in this whole grandiose choreography is still breathtaking. And, while the story of the trilogy as a whole is kinda directionless and incoherent, there are some individual scenes where Jackson manages to show he's still a very competent visual storyteller. In particular I liked the scene where Thorin growing greed/madness is illustrated via a clever scenic metaphor; I don't want spoil it any more, but you know what I'm talking about if you've seen the movie.

On the minus side, I thought the cliffhanger with Smaug from the previous movie was resolved a bit too easily and quickly in this one. I guess it's cool they stayed truthful to the book and got rid of Smaug before the actual climax of the story, but all in all we got more of talking Smaug in the previous flick than Smaug in action in this one, which is a bit sad, because he was so well realized as a CGI character. Like in the previous movie, the 48FPS/3D thing really makes him come alive here too; with Smaug it doesn't matter if the technology makes everything look a bit fake, because a dragon isn't supposed to feel realistic anyway.

After having finished this movie, I can also say that the whole Dol Guldur/Sauron subplot was completely pointless. It doesn't really have anything to do with the main Erebor plot, it's there just to tie these movies to LotR. (IIRC none of that stuff was in the book?) However, it does provide two of the most impressive visuals in the movie. First, we get a new design for the Ringwraiths, which is really creepy and impressive, in that it actually uses the "unrealness" of CGI and 3D effects to its advantage. (Sadly there's also an overtly long fight scene involving the Wraiths, I think Jackson should've realized that they'd be more effective if he didn't show them so much.) And then there's a confrontation (not an actual fight, thank god) between Galadriel and Sauron, which is just awesome! In The Fellowship of the Ring, I hated the scene where Galadriel is tempted by the Ring and her voice gets weird and screechy and her face is altered with special effects, because I thought Blanchett could've conveyed her temptation with, you know, just acting. Well, here we have variation of the same thing, but in this case I think it works, because we are actually witnessing a magical battle of wills between two superbeings. It's totally over-the-top and really cool, and Sauron's new visual is also much better than the spotlight-vagina-eye from LotR.

So yeah, if you didn't like the previous movies and/or felt that they pissed on Tolkien's work, you're not gonna feel differen about this one either. But if you thought (like me) that they were uneven and incoherently plotted but also thrilling and cool-looking roller-coaster rides with some decent actors and occasional touching character moments, well this is more of the same stuff. It's not as good as the LotR movies (or even the first movie in this trilogy), but worth the admission? Hell yeah.

Tuomas, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:39 (3 months ago) Permalink

I hated the scene where Galadriel is tempted by the Ring and her voice gets weird and screechy and her face is altered with special effects,

lol u nuts this is one of the best scenes/most effective uses of effects in the original trilogy

Οὖτις, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:44 (3 months ago) Permalink

I gotta add that besides the Dol Guldur stuff, Legolas was also completely extraneous to the whole trilogy, they could've left him out without the story suffering a bit... Looks like they wanted to have some familiar faces besides Gandalf in these movies, but they just didn't manage to find a way to properly integrate the elements that weren't in the book. To make things worse, Legolas's radical elvish parkour stunts are just as prominent and irritating as they were in the LotR movies... Like, in this one there's a scene where a bridge is collapsing under Legolas and he's jumping on bricks that are literally hanging in the air, like fucking Super Mario or something.

Tuomas, Saturday, 13 December 2014 00:26 (3 months ago) Permalink

is there a hobbit in this one?

resulting post (rogermexico.), Saturday, 13 December 2014 03:16 (3 months ago) Permalink

I heard they're going to add the hobbit to the the director's cut.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 December 2014 03:58 (3 months ago) Permalink

I remember thinking the Galadriel temptation thing was great in the theater, it really was startling and weird and she sounded so booming and nuts, it was of a piece with Bilbo's reaction to the Ring in Rivendell. But on DVD the cheapness of the effect kinda overpowered the scene - IIRC this is one where they had farmed some effects out to some outside studio whose work they didn't end up liking at all but they had to keep it.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 13 December 2014 05:29 (3 months ago) Permalink

The new one is unbelievably boring.

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Sunday, 14 December 2014 00:11 (3 months ago) Permalink

what I'm prepared to believe might surprise u

resulting post (rogermexico.), Sunday, 14 December 2014 00:52 (3 months ago) Permalink

After having finished this movie, I can also say that the whole Dol Guldur/Sauron subplot was completely pointless. It doesn't really have anything to do with the main Erebor plot, it's there just to tie these movies to LotR. (IIRC none of that stuff was in the book?)

Lightly. Even in the original version Gandalf leaves Bilbo et al because he has to fight the Necromancer elsewhere, as is discussed briefly at the end of the book on the way back. Tolkien essentially developed and partially retconned it later in LOTR's appendices by having it be the culmination of spying by Gandalf over time and realizing that Sauron had come back, thus partially his urgency about taking care of Smaug via the dwarves; he had already discovered Thrain in Dol Guldur and received the key and map from him before he died. The White Council attacks Dol Guldur, Sauron puts up a slight resistance and then flees eastward in a feint, he ends up back in Mordor etc. etc. From there Jackson and team fleshed it out and reworked it in the version we now have, only here things are more sudden and ad hoc, Gandalf actually gets captured and rescued etc., there's an attempt to REALLY create a new overarching demi-mythology that's not really anywhere in the stories -- the High Fells as a tomb, the origin of the Ringwraiths, Gundabad as the capital as such of Angmar, and so forth. Not the end of the world but it almost felt more like a series of explanations and stories from the Iron Crown Enterprises role playing games instead. (And the geography of the whole story is all *over* the map at this point, but they really only needed to keep things vague for the film anyway, I guess.)

Anyway! Saw it tonight and...pleasantly surprised? If only because it was so SHORT. Shortest of all the six films at two hours and change. I went in lowballing all expectations, honestly, and it worked better than I might have guessed. Even though I kinda figured Thorin and Bilbo's final scene would be more 'dramatic' as such than the book, which I appreciate for its quiet gravitas, they at least kept in a good chunk of the actual dialogue, including a reworked key line about what should be better valued. And while they're nowhere in Tolkien at all beyond a vague reference in LOTR about strange creatures gnawing in the 'deep places of the world,' those sandworm cousins in the battle scene, while kinda ridiculous, still looked pretty great. More tomorrow but hey, at least this is all over bar whatever the extended version turns out to be.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 December 2014 05:59 (3 months ago) Permalink

Gonna see this on xmas day I think

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 December 2014 06:12 (3 months ago) Permalink

Saw this on Xmas eve as per the last two, thank god I can lay that tradition to rest. Thought it was ok for a long while, light on the ridiculous rollercoaster set pieces, bard the bowman jumping on a cart to take out a troll the most absurd but very brief (interestingly the POD RACING on ice I complained about in the trailer four months ago seems to have vanished entirely). Then the battle scenes started, and dragged on, wasn't v convinced by thorin's sudden change of heart managing to turn the tide. Just as I was metaphorically looking at my watch the whole absurd overlong non canonical "this time it's personal" fight against the white orc up on the watchtower started, and went on and on and on... oh look here's legolas hanging from a bat, there's the orc playing whack-a-mole with thorin on some ice forever while a whole orc army looks on, here's legolas running up a collapsing bridge "like fucking super Mario or something" thankyou tuomas, there's the orc coming back from the dead what a surprise...

Ringwraith fight was lame but yeah I liked the bad acid strobe trip of galadriel v sauron. Would've been happy to see more of radagast's rabbit sledge. "Alfred lickspittle" was crap invented comic relief. So much of the look of the orc and dwarf battle stuff seemed like a direct lift from Warhammer which idk seems a bit like the lazy option.

ledge, Wednesday, 24 December 2014 22:27 (3 months ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, and ten foot tall orcs with metal armour actually embedded into their flesh can be felled by a stone thrown by a three foot high hobbit. I know, old man yells at action movies.

ledge, Wednesday, 24 December 2014 22:30 (3 months ago) Permalink

HFR still looks great though.

ledge, Wednesday, 24 December 2014 22:32 (3 months ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, and ten foot tall orcs with metal armour actually embedded into their flesh can be felled by a stone thrown by a three foot high hobbit.

I guess the Hobbits are just the Ewoks of these movies... But I did like the fact that Bilbo was mostly useless during the actual battle (IIRC it was the same in the book?) and didn't do much action hero stuff, it did emphasize the "average person" aspect of Bilbo, the fact that he was more of an observer who couldn't really do that much to affect the larger-than-life forces at play here. Though sadly this meant there was less of Bilbo in this movie than the previous ones, Thorin and Bard essentially became the protagonists here. It would've been nice to have more of Martin Freeman, he's so good at playing the "everyman observer" character (having already done two iconic versions of it in Arthur Dent and John Watson)... But with an epic climax like this, I guess such a character can't by definition have much to do. Bilbo's return to Shire was really nice done though, and I liked that it was far more prosaic and bittersweet than the ending of LotR, which closed with a similar scene.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 08:39 (2 months ago) Permalink

Martin Freeman, he's so good at playing the "everyman observer Martin Freeman" character (having already done two iconic versions of it in Arthur Dent and John Watson).

ledge, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 16:27 (2 months ago) Permalink

what ledge said up there, yeah. was fairly diverting, except for a 30-40 minute midfilm "now begins the BATTLES!" stretch, during which i became distracted by theatrical speaker placement, ceiling design, and the likelihood of interesting lobby posters were i to go for a stretch.

Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 18:56 (2 months ago) Permalink

Haha yeah, I guess Freeman gets typecast, but he does do the type well.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 19:41 (2 months ago) Permalink

If you went to watch this after seeing the first two, I don't know what to say.

..but is he a virtuoso? (Raccoon Tanuki), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 20:40 (2 months ago) Permalink

"Hope you enjoyed it?"

Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 21:55 (2 months ago) Permalink

raccoon tanuki if you went to watch the second after seeing the first you are complicit

resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 23:25 (2 months ago) Permalink

COME AT ME

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 00:30 (2 months ago) Permalink

Could have done without the Kili lovestory, i never gave a crap about them in any of the installments

Thorin was p boss in this one. Like how they "smauged" his voice as he got more consumed with greed

agreed not enough bilbo
i didnt need the LOTR bow on the end but i guess i get why they had to

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 00:33 (2 months ago) Permalink

So the battle just kind of... ended. While everyone was doing their one on one computer game orc fights. Who even won the battle of five armies?

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 00:50 (2 months ago) Permalink

Best bit was the first ten minutes, after Smaug died the rest kind of felt like an epilogue.

Could have done without the Kili lovestory

Yeah this was shit.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 00:52 (2 months ago) Permalink

can't muster up the energy to see this

akm, Wednesday, 31 December 2014 03:02 (2 months ago) Permalink

like it just seemed like it was some version of this expression ALL the time with Tauriel/Kili with wistful music and everyone knew they were doomed from the start ...it just seemed like they were desperate to to Aragorn and Arwen redux but there was nothing to care about

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 03:08 (2 months ago) Permalink

because fanfic hobbit

resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 03:22 (2 months ago) Permalink

u_u

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 03:31 (2 months ago) Permalink

let's be honest, there was nothing to care about with Aragorn and Arwen either.

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 18:26 (2 months ago) Permalink

Who even won the battle of five armies?
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, December 30, 2014 7:50 PM

that was my question after it ended. 3 hours of fighting over a pile of gold and they don't tell u who gets to keep it

wwhy shrek is piss (am0n), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 18:41 (2 months ago) Permalink

I don't recall any giant piles of gold in the Lord of the Rings movies. Peter Jackson should go back and add them in.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 December 2014 19:31 (2 months ago) Permalink

You forgot to check his bank account

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 21:30 (2 months ago) Permalink

Every penny is on the (computer) screen.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 December 2014 21:49 (2 months ago) Permalink

Bus advertising over here is using the tag #onelasttime - have to assume they spent some time arguing back and forward about that vs #sunkcost

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 1 January 2015 11:01 (2 months ago) Permalink


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