the crimes of george lucas ('90s on)

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed

i thought this would be a fun poll so i thought i'd do a brainstorming thread first. what are you mad at george lucas for THE MOST?

stuff like:

- showing boba fett's face (and him as a whiny kid)
- greedo shooting first

...etc

i made it '90s onwards so none of you wiseacres can claim the OG star wars movies

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

jar jar binks of course

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

probably the biggest for me, fuckign with the original movies and then getting rid of the negatives (allegedly)

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

s1ocki beat me to that one

any of the "romantic" scenes in the new trilogy

the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

I would have nominated trying to make Brian Benben a movie star but I suppose that's small beer.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

impossible to make a coherent list of offenses

north sea jazz dit weekend (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

Reducing the Clone Wars, which seemed like the coolest idea ever when they were hinted at in the original series, into a bunch of boring bullshit involving "trade federations" and such.

gayest flash mob pillow fight yet (Pillbox), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

looking like this

velko, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

midichlorians

goole, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

tehse are all good

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

Greedo shooting first - it totally messes up the impression that the first time audience has about Solo. Han shoots first = sketchy character who you're not sure about for the whole movie.

Gark M (snoball), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

mrs skywalker dies of heartbreak

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Indiana Jones vs. The Lame CGI & Goddam Aliens Ferfuckssake

gayest flash mob pillow fight yet (Pillbox), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

fucking up howard the duck (or is that pre-90s?)

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

the kid who played anakin skywalker

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

Why is the thread question in plural? His biggest crime was making more movies.

My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

when Anakin becomes Darth Vader and then looks up at the camera in the sky and goes NOOOOOOOOOO

nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

Why is the thread question in plural? His biggest crime was making more movies.

― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:41 PM (48 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yes smart guy we know but it's more fun to pick at the insane little details

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

midichlorians

― goole, Wednesday, July 15, 2009 5:38 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

kiddie rabies: attacked by brats (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

if i made a thread called "the crimes of hitler" i dont think anyone would complain that it shouldnt be in plural because his crime is "the holocaust"

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

not at least trying out a few alternate solutions to whatever is going on with that beard and his chin

nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

Please note that utility data for the entire campus is also included. This was the only data made available with the application, and in order to accurately estimate and verify savings, individual building meter data will need to be obtained from the campus.

^^^this, far and away. its one thing to churn out crappy product, lots of aging directors do that (hell, young ones too!), but deliberately screwing up your past work - so that NO ONE can ever enjoy it again, that's a whole other level of unforgivable.

Bizarro Morbius (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

what a weird quote

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

I still love the Patton Oswalt bit about how Lucas fucked up all these awesome characters by showing them as whiny kids, "you like Angelina Jolie, right? here's Jon Voight's testicle!".

the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

i dont remember anyone saying THAT xp

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

hahahahah oh man

Bizarro Morbius (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

shoudve been this: probably the biggest for me, fuckign with the original movies and then getting rid of the negatives (allegedly)

Bizarro Morbius (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

fart jokes in episode 1

kiddie rabies: attacked by brats (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

hahaha that is totally the highlight of my day so far

nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

is that his pitch for a campus sex comedy?

velko, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

btw if anyone wants some campus utility data hit me up yo

Bizarro Morbius (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

what drove me NUTS is how he passive-aggressively included the real movie as a "special feature" on the dvd release but not the anamorphic version. SUCH a bitch move.

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

i am giggling like crazy at shakey's c&p gaffe

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

especially, "^^^this, far and away."

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

I don't think we can accurately judge Lucas' output without individual building meter data!

Mariela Ure (jeff), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

the demuppetification of yoda.

For other uses, see Cornhole (disambiguation). (Oilyrags), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

hahaha the best was the 5 seconds before i realized what happened

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

i thought it was some obscure nugget about lucasfilm's data output and how that proved the originals didn't exist any more or something

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

hahaha the best was the 5 seconds before i realized what happened

Agreed. I was just "...wait, what?"

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

i think the china-town sounding trade federation dudes said something like that in ep 1

goole, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah i was like

kiddie rabies: attacked by brats (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

Co-incidentally, someone was here to read the meter this morning.

Gark M (snoball), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

does anyone have a cite to the real individual building meter data from Ep. 2? is that on the DVD?

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

"Begun this data scrub has."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

i am dying at my desk here

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

promising to make "small, personal" films only to immediately return to raping our childhoods with his big cgi dick

da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

no matter how much i do like spielberg, i downgrade him for pulling a few of these lucas-style moves in his career, too.

"he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

totally... ET gun/walkie thing

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

also to answer the thread question

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

i've never forgiven george lucas for starting yourprops.com

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

FAMILY

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 30 November 2015 21:03 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm still wound up by the idea George Lucas thinks he has a better grasp on plotting characters with relationships and families than the people who now own Star Wars

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 30 November 2015 21:07 (one year ago) Permalink

George Lucas is now reminding me of the guy who graduated last year but still hangs around the high school a lot. LET IT GO, GEORGE.

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Monday, 30 November 2015 22:57 (one year ago) Permalink

attending a party at his ranch in a few weeks, anyone got any questions they want me to ask him

Οὖτις, Monday, 30 November 2015 22:59 (one year ago) Permalink

already got "When is the sequel to Red Tails coming out????!???" covered

Οὖτις, Monday, 30 November 2015 23:00 (one year ago) Permalink

how about an animated reboot of howard the duck?

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 30 November 2015 23:05 (one year ago) Permalink

ooh good idea

Οὖτις, Monday, 30 November 2015 23:05 (one year ago) Permalink

Ask him what exactly has stopped one of the most successful directors/producers of all-time, who basically owns his own movie studio, from making those "smaller, more experimental films" he's been yammering about for the past 30 years.

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Monday, 30 November 2015 23:39 (one year ago) Permalink

Maybe he has! He just doesn't like the bit where you show them to people.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 30 November 2015 23:49 (one year ago) Permalink

I'll ask to see some. Preferably in his "greatest movie theater in the world"

Οὖτις, Monday, 30 November 2015 23:51 (one year ago) Permalink

ok, i like the idea that george lucas has become an inverse howard hughes, holed up in his mansion, endlessly filming movies for nobody but himself. there could be dozens of these smaller, more experimental films. hundreds, even. no guesses on the jars of urine though.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 01:35 (one year ago) Permalink

ask him if he ever goes back to Modesto

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 03:17 (one year ago) Permalink

can someone tell george lucas why not?!?

the grimes of claire boucher ('90s on) (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 03:24 (one year ago) Permalink

Find out his thoughts on individual building meter data, duh

latebloomer, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 03:24 (one year ago) Permalink

^^^^^^^^^^^

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 03:27 (one year ago) Permalink

Will there be a special edition release of the holiday special?

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 04:05 (one year ago) Permalink

jar jars of urine

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 05:14 (one year ago) Permalink

excellent Kasdan interview here

"I had just taken six months to write RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK from scratch. I handed it in, and George said, ‘do you want to write EMPIRE STRIKES BACK?’ Literally, he threw it on the desk and asked me to write EMPIRE. He said, ‘We’re in big trouble. Leigh Brackett [who wrote the first draft] has passed away. They’re building sets in England. And I don’t have a script.’ I said, ‘Maybe you ought to read RAIDERS first.’ He said, ‘I’m going to read it tonight, and if I don’t like it I’ll call you back tomorrow and take back this offer.. “George said to me, ‘Darth Vader is Luke’s father.’ And I said, ‘No shit?’ "

http://www.wired.com/2015/11/lawrence-kasdan-qa/

piscesx, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 16:05 (one year ago) Permalink

haha

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 16:20 (one year ago) Permalink

George once said to me, “oh, Ben is not a Jedi master.” I said, “what?” And he said, “yeah, he’s not really a master. A master is this and this.” And I said, “you’re out of your mind.”

Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 16:49 (one year ago) Permalink

so a jedi friend of theirs dies in front of them, and they spend time whimsically pondering their next action

the thing is it could have been a deliciously bond-esque scene, baseball signs and everything, if directed with any urgency whatsoever

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 17:05 (one year ago) Permalink

he forgot to say "faster and more intense"

Number None, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 17:06 (one year ago) Permalink

I don't think anyone necessarily said the dude was incidental to the first three, but rather that he had fairly strong collaborative feedback control system, if you will, surrounding him that was able to edit and select and shape the random neural firing out of his brain into something better.

Actors on his first film would supplement or override his direction. DePalma reportedly cut down and reshape for the opening crawl. His wife and others literally edited the stuff. Guys like Gary Kurtz were there to call him on his shit and get in fights over it if need be(and who acrimoniously quit during the pre-production of Jedi).

Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 17:12 (one year ago) Permalink

Ask him what exactly has stopped one of the most successful directors/producers of all-time, who basically owns his own movie studio, from making those "smaller, more experimental films" he's been yammering about for the past 30 years.

― Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Monday, November 30, 2015 5:39 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you've heard of nathaniel dorsky, right?

have you ever seen nathaniel dorsky and george lucas in the same room?

i didn't think so....

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 17:13 (one year ago) Permalink

"deliciously bond-esque" is not a good match for these films (or any films) though.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 08:00 (one year ago) Permalink

Skywalker Ranch is p odd. Japanese-style architecture, "attendants" waiting to direct you to your destination at every several hundred feet, a statue of yoda in the courtyard, tons of old original movie posters, and original Mucha of Sandra Bernhard (this was probably the thing I was most interested in). His private movie theater was showing "White Christmas", nice velvet seats.

George did not appear to hold forth on the many experimental films he has under development

Οὖτις, Monday, 14 December 2015 21:11 (eleven months ago) Permalink

wonder how much movie memorabilia will be relocated to that new museum complex in chicago

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 14 December 2015 21:16 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I'm sure he's got a bajillion things stashed away - we didn't see any norman rockwell stuff, for example, and I know he's got a lot of that. And there was actually very little Star Wars material. The ranch itself is used strictly for private events and is not open to the public, so I assume most of what goes on there is related to his philanthropic activities and rich people wine parties and things like that.

Οὖτις, Monday, 14 December 2015 21:21 (eleven months ago) Permalink

a former colleague was a registrar for the Skywalker ranch/ Lucas collection- the SW archive is apparently very, very extensive.

a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 14 December 2015 21:40 (eleven months ago) Permalink

All that Jar-Jar merchandise had to go into a landfill somewhere

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 00:57 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I can only imagine it's paved over somewhere in the desert, to be excavated by Jar Jar revisionists in 30 years

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 02:29 (eleven months ago) Permalink

glandular lansbury (sic), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 06:36 (eleven months ago) Permalink

that's the most poignant candy dispenser I've ever seen

Number None, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 10:49 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Xpost The gist of the Chicago Museum iirc is not really to house movie memorabilia but his vast collection of fine art. Be shocked if it doesn't at least have a Star Wars wing. I recall when they built this nice new aquarium in Camden, New Jersey and thought it was a good idea to focus on local fish. After a year of low attendance, out came the sharks and shiny fish.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 12:56 (eleven months ago) Permalink

no idea if this has prev seen light of day

https://twitter.com/pareene/status/676539201471586307

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:39 (eleven months ago) Permalink

goddamn it.

how's life, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:46 (eleven months ago) Permalink

yeah it's from the Making Of book that came out in 2013

but yeah, the level of detail even then is pretty crazy

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:54 (eleven months ago) Permalink

ha, re that story conversation: was rereading chunks of the secret history of star wars yesterday and laughing at how frequently lucas' early conception of the emperor was described as a "nixonian bureaucrat" (not a phrase that makes a whole lot of sense but tevs)--like, i wish!

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 December 2015 15:39 (eleven months ago) Permalink

do you mean Emperor Cos Dashit?

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 18 December 2015 16:10 (eleven months ago) Permalink

lol yes i do

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 December 2015 16:11 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I learned a new term this weekend:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Founder%27s_syndrome

Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Monday, 21 December 2015 22:02 (eleven months ago) Permalink

can't argue that

you need new blood, otherwise you end up doing things the exact same way forever while the world rolls on around you

you also run the risk that the people who were so instrumental had one good idea and don't realize you can't work off that forever

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 21 December 2015 23:10 (eleven months ago) Permalink

XD

how's life, Saturday, 2 January 2016 21:45 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Around when episode 1 came out, I saw an interview with Lucas on Canadian TV* where he said he was a monarchist. Anyone remember seeing this? I can't find it online. (*note: around 40% of Canadian TV is from the US so I don't know where it came from.)

aaaaablnnn (abanana), Sunday, 3 January 2016 02:55 (eleven months ago) Permalink

what if it was a weird canada-only interview where he misunderstood the relationship to the queen and was trying to ingratiate himself

μpright mammal (mh), Sunday, 3 January 2016 03:17 (eleven months ago) Permalink

"Mm." - George Lucas

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Monday, 4 January 2016 16:28 (eleven months ago) Permalink

?utm_campaign=default&utm_medium=ShareTools&utm_source=facebook

glandular lansbury (sic), Monday, 4 January 2016 21:55 (eleven months ago) Permalink


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.