quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

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oh i thought this was the main nytimes thread

c21m50nh3x460n, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 17:52 (ten years ago) link

haha

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link

meow

c21m50nh3x460n, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 17:54 (ten years ago) link

basic income is a v interesting idea tho, be curious to read something on what economists thinkvthe inflationary etc impact would be of everyone getting a same sized check every month

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link

'pay people to be alive' a v. ruling class (and reactionary american) way of phrasing it tho

j., Tuesday, 12 November 2013 18:01 (ten years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/14/fashion/chef-run-service-teaches-nannies-recipes-that-skip-the-microwave.html?_r=1&

Like other 5-year-olds, Erela Yashiv likes pizza and cupcakes and detests food that contains “green specks” of vegetables.

But her mother, Stephanie Johnson, 46, who lives in TriBeCa and runs a cosmetics-case and travel-accessories line, wanted her daughter to adopt a more refined and global palate, whether it’s a gluten-free kale salad or falafel made from organic chickpeas.

As working parents, she and her husband, Dan Yashiv, 42, a music producer, do not have time to prepare such fare. And their nanny, from Wisconsin, does not always know the difference between quinoa and couscous.

Ian from Etobicoke (Phil D.), Thursday, 14 November 2013 16:52 (ten years ago) link

she sometimes does

socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 14 November 2013 16:54 (ten years ago) link

stupid fucking nanny

ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Thursday, 14 November 2013 16:57 (ten years ago) link

How long does it take to make a kale salad? Even if you have to pick all the bits of gluten out by hand?

famous for hits! (seandalai), Thursday, 14 November 2013 17:00 (ten years ago) link

Wisconsin, whaddaya gonna do? (xp)

nickn, Thursday, 14 November 2013 17:01 (ten years ago) link

all the things labeled gluten free these days, its good to know these eggs abide by my diet

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 November 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link

blind nanny, real sad, can't see the pictures on the box at the store that show all the sighted nannies what couscous and quinoa look like

j., Friday, 15 November 2013 00:36 (ten years ago) link

That article is hilarious.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 15 November 2013 01:26 (ten years ago) link

were they actually saying 'marc&mark' out loud or do you suppose marc&mark paid the times extra to get their trade name in there

j., Friday, 15 November 2013 01:29 (ten years ago) link

lol

“We were too basic with her food in the beginning, so we want marc&mark to help us explore more sophisticated food that has some diversity and flavor,” she said. “I don’t want her growing up not liking curry because she never had it.”

'we fucked up so bad, thank god this service is available to help us reverse our monstrous parenting decisions'

j., Friday, 15 November 2013 01:31 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

Holy shit, grocery store chain from Texas does well in Idaho, too!

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/17/business/whole-foods-finds-success-in-smaller-cities.html?hp&_r=0

And it hasn't even opened up in Brooklyn yet!!!!!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 December 2013 23:12 (ten years ago) link

not sure that's quid/ag so much as classic NYTimes condescension to non-coastal American cities.

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Monday, 16 December 2013 23:14 (ten years ago) link

Yeah wasn't sure where to put it. The irony of course is that Whole Foods is based in one of the most non-coastal American cities. So, like, why wouldn't it work in Idaho? One of the nicest Whole Foods I've been to was in Omaha.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 December 2013 23:22 (ten years ago) link

Because Times editors still live under the delusion that "organic" is some kind of fancy citified thing that only elites know about?

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Monday, 16 December 2013 23:32 (ten years ago) link

tbf, the whole foods exec quoted seems to fuel that idea

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Monday, 16 December 2013 23:33 (ten years ago) link

I dunno, the piece seemed to be coming, like, a decade late? It'd be like a Times piece on IKEA opening up in St. Louis.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 December 2013 23:42 (ten years ago) link

Boise is still a city and not rural iirc, so it would in fact be "citified"

I mean, unless you're talking top ten US cities or smith

mh, Monday, 16 December 2013 23:50 (ten years ago) link

i want a whl fds

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 00:15 (ten years ago) link

iirc your part of the country is like doubly-hippie compared to who fds ppl

I may be misjudging based on the Vermont wedding I went to that had blueberries from next door and pulled pork grilled by a guy who raised the pigs. He also played guitar at the wedding.

mh, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 00:37 (ten years ago) link

yeah i can goto any number of farms and buy grass w/e but who wants to do that

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 00:54 (ten years ago) link

Key question is did he also raise his own guitars. Because if so

乒乓, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 00:55 (ten years ago) link

hard to tell, didn't ask

I found out pulling pork is really good for your skin, it's an epiphany that could lead to a nyt quiddities article if monetized properly

mh, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 01:06 (ten years ago) link

three months pass...

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/16/realestate/for-starters-the-upper-east-side.html

When Arielle Grabel, 27, who works in public relations, was looking for an apartment three years ago, she firmly stated her terms: nothing above 20th Street. After she saw what was available, she adjusted her demands to “O.K., nothing above 40th Street.”

“And then I was saying: ‘O.K., if the best I can do is the 50s, that’s not so high,’ and then eventually, ‘O.K., 74th Street it is,’ ” said Ms. Grabel, who, for a monthly figure she characterizes as between $2,100 and $2,300 month, has a large studio with glossy floors and marble countertops in an elevator building.

She has two good friends in the neighborhood, but has been unsuccessful in recruiting others, even if it’s just to come uptown for drinks and dinner.

“They say there’s nothing to do up here,” said Ms. Grabel, who herself prefers the night life downtown. But perhaps her sales pitch needs a bit of work. She tells her friends the Upper East Side isn’t that bad, not that far from the action, and the people aren’t that old.

the portentous pepper (govern yourself accordingly), Monday, 17 March 2014 03:10 (ten years ago) link

rent window characterisation is beautiful

mustread guy (schlump), Monday, 17 March 2014 03:35 (ten years ago) link

Didn't click through but...

@nytimes: "Are you coming to bed?"
"I can't. This is important."
"What?"
"There's an article about xkcd." http://t.co/EXLyI2mPqE

Roz, Monday, 17 March 2014 04:38 (ten years ago) link

Though the book won’t appear for six months, “What If?” quickly reached No. 2 on Amazon’s best-seller list on the strength of pre-orders, trailing only a history book from Rush Limbaugh.

We hugged with no names exchanged (forksclovetofu), Monday, 17 March 2014 12:25 (ten years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/26/business/media/bookstores-forsake-manhattan-as-rents-surge.html?action=click&contentCollection=Europe&module=MostEmailed&version=Full®ion=Marginalia&src=me&pgtype=article

on the subject of fewer and fewer bookstore in manhattan.

idk if it really qulifies for this thread but a few parts made me roll my eyes --

“How can Manhattan be a cultural or literary center of the world when the number of bookstores has become so insignificant?” he asked. “You really say, has nobody in city government ever considered this and what can be done about it?”

because lol
and

She said she was concerned that bookstores in high-rent areas like Manhattan would shift their merchandise away from more accessibly priced paperbacks toward more expensive items with wider profit margins.

“My worry is that to make these rents, people are going to have to make the bookstore a place where only wealthy people can be,” she said. “The higher and higher these rents go, do you have to bring in these expensive leather journals and art books that only rich people can buy?”

Main points I think: This article seems to focus on purveyors of new merchandise, and in addition to the rising rents I think it's impt to address things like amazon.com, kindle/ebooks, and the larger profit margins of selling used merchandise.

Sad to see no shout outs to sellers of used books like Strand, Housing Works, Mercer St Books, East Village Books etc not to mention the healthy crop of used bookstores in Brooklyn (Book Thug Nation [lol worse name), Human Relations, Molasses Books, Here's A Bookstore in Coney Island etc. Interesting that there's gonna be a McNally Jackson in wburg, cuz i hadn't heard about that. Cool I guess?

ian, Friday, 28 March 2014 01:06 (ten years ago) link

It's funny how we're supposed to nostalgically agree that an undefined period when bookstores were more popular/profitable is the ultimate good. People used to only get their newspapers from newsstands, too, and all their clothes were handmade. And stuff. I love books and I made them for a living for 15 years but nothing is out of reach of change, whether you think of it as "progress" or blame it on amazon.com--and I'm happy to blame a lot of things on amazon.com, but I keep coming back to the idea that various phenomenon of history are...trajectories, not...closed circles.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Friday, 28 March 2014 01:14 (ten years ago) link

phenomena, I mean. Typing while netflix loaded and started playing and I got rushed. Just for one example of storytelling and how books aren't the only vehicle besides in-person verbal performance.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Friday, 28 March 2014 01:17 (ten years ago) link

After scouring Manhattan for a second location for her bookstore, Sarah McNally finally decided to open one in Brooklyn instead.
After scouring Manhattan for a second location for her bookstore, Sarah McNally finally decided to open one in Brooklyn instead.
After scouring Manhattan for a second location for her bookstore, Sarah McNally finally decided to open one in Brooklyn instead.
After scouring Manhattan for a second location for her bookstore, Sarah McNally finally decided to open one in Brooklyn instead.
After scouring Manhattan for a second location for her bookstore, Sarah McNally finally decided to open one in Brooklyn instead.
After scouring Manhattan for a second location for her bookstore, Sarah McNally finally decided to open one in Brooklyn instead.
After scouring Manhattan for a second location for her bookstore, Sarah McNally finally decided to open one in Brooklyn instead.

marcos, Friday, 28 March 2014 13:59 (ten years ago) link

brooklyn, who woulda thought???? thanks nytimes, good to know!

marcos, Friday, 28 March 2014 13:59 (ten years ago) link

"guess I'll take a chance on Brooklyn, nowhere else to go"

james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Friday, 28 March 2014 14:12 (ten years ago) link

is anyone trying the nyt now thing

iatee, Thursday, 3 April 2014 13:58 (ten years ago) link

I will now that I am aware of it

kind of wondering what the ipad version is like. Ability to read a device-optimized version over coffee or w/e in the morning would be nice.

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 3 April 2014 13:59 (ten years ago) link

I didn't dl it on ipad yet but the iphone app is nice

iatee, Thursday, 3 April 2014 14:08 (ten years ago) link

it'd be nice if I could make it default to international edition stories like the website

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 3 April 2014 14:10 (ten years ago) link

the one thing I want is the ability to auto dl the whole thing for offline reading, which is only relevant for me for 10 mins of my commute but its a very read-my-iphone 10 mins

iatee, Thursday, 3 April 2014 14:12 (ten years ago) link

so do you have to get a separate sub from the nyt to use nyt now?
these tiered things always suck tbqh

We hugged with no names exchanged (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 April 2014 16:26 (ten years ago) link

really throwing down the gauntlet today http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/13/fashion/hanley-mellon-clothing-line-fashion.html

lag∞n, Sunday, 13 April 2014 14:40 (ten years ago) link

The walls of the pad he and Ms. Hanley Mellon share at the Pierre are lined with paintings by Andy Warhol, Jean-Michel Basquiat, Damien Hirst, Peter Beard and, Mr. Mellon said, “Taylor Swift.”

“You mean Sam Taylor-Wood,” Ms. Hanley Mellon said.

lag∞n, Sunday, 13 April 2014 14:41 (ten years ago) link

Hah I know a Mellon

, Sunday, 13 April 2014 14:41 (ten years ago) link

“I’ve never been to Africa, but I feel like I have this deep affinity for it,” Ms. Hanley Mellon said. “I’ve read every Hemingway, we collect Peter Beard, I’ve watched ‘Out of Africa.’ It touches your soul to visit and smell the smells, and you can’t recreate the experience without immersing yourself.”

Of course, being mobile has many connotations in the age of new media, which Mr. Mellon feels ambivalent about. “In the old days you’d have to travel to India or China for inspiration, and these days you’ve just got Pinterest boards and you can create looks from home,” he said. He does have an Instagram account, asliceofmellon, despite believing that “technology has made us lazy.”

, Sunday, 13 April 2014 14:43 (ten years ago) link

i know a melon

http://nutritioncheckup.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/cantaloupe.jpg

lag∞n, Sunday, 13 April 2014 14:44 (ten years ago) link

But Mr. Mellon is an unabashed fan of embracing new technologies, including Bitcoin, which the company accepts as payment and to which he was introduced by the venture capitalists Cameron and Tyler Winklevoss.

“Now we just need a hashtag,” Ms. Hanley Mellon said.

lag∞n, Sunday, 13 April 2014 14:45 (ten years ago) link

sometimes its unclear if the reporter despises the subjects but not today

lag∞n, Sunday, 13 April 2014 14:45 (ten years ago) link


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