Mike Yanagita (Asian guy in Fargo): Classic or dud?

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I was watching Fargo the other night, and that scene right in the middle of the movie where Marge the Sheriff takes a detour on her journey to the Twin Cities to have lunch with old classmate Mike Yanagita, Honeywell Engineer and pathological liar...

Funny/sad/touching-or-maybe-creepy/adds an extra dimension to the movie? Or crassly stereotypical/not funny/of no redeeming value?

I have always thought it was classic, myself...

Joe, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

it completely makes the film (along with the buscemi 'you should see the other guy' line of course)

ethan, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Twenty-four carat classic. "You were such a super lady..."

John Mc, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Classic, especially when he makes up about marrying that woman and her dying, or whatever it is. When's it going to be re-released over here on DVD?

Nick Southall, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I was surprised to read on the IMDB that the actor who played him (I remember him from the latter seasons of In Living Color, where he was sadly underused) received a bit of hostility from the Asian American community, apparently just for playing an Asian American 'in a not positive light' (or something like that). If that's true, then oh jeez...

Joe, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

classic, if only for the combination japanese/north dakota accent.

Elliot, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

My dad was a Honeywell Engineer in Minneapolis, but he was not Asian. It is a very uncomfortable scene, but good.

Dan I., Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Fantastic. For some reason when I saw the movie first time around I wasn't impressed that much. Luckily I saw it again.

Ally C, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

three years pass...
racist

theresa miller, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Hm.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Struggling for Dignity

I am a Korean-American actor. You can see my work in one of the most highly acclaimed movies of 1996 and in one of the most talked about scenes of that year. I play the distraught Japanese-American ex-schoolmate of Marge Gunderson-- Mike Yanagita-- in the Academy Award-winning movie Fargo. Working with the Coen brothers and Frances McDormand was one of the high points of my career. Not so much because they are brilliant artists, but because they are decent, down-to-earth people who treated me and the rest of the cast and crew with respect and admiration.

Being an Asian-American actor, I continue to struggle to find roles for myself that are not insulting and stereotypical. My career started with Do The Right Thing, I was a series regular on In Living Color, and I just finished working as a guest star on one of the highest rated shows on television ["Friends"], which brings me to my next point. Working with the people involved with this show was an extremely painful experience for me. A disturbing lack in generosity of spirit and basic human courtesy, in addition to a racial incident on the set, has forced me to speak out.

These people, by virtue of their status, money and power, are among the most privileged people walking the face of the earth, yet they behaved as if they were bankrupt in spirit and incapable of expressing simple human kindness. Not only did various key people on the set not have the courtesy to introduce themselves as we began to work together, they created an environment of fear and insecurity. One PA (production assistant) spoke of having worked on the show for almost a full year without one cast member ever having said hello to him in that entire time. And on top of this, the 1st AD (assistant director), in a short tirade, called an Asian-American actor to the set over a walkie-talkie with the words, "I don't have time for this! Where's Hoshi, Toshi or whatever the f--k his name is. Get the oriental guy!" He did not even have the respect to learn the name of the actor, a veteran of 40 years.

I was the only one who took notice, while all others proceeded as if it was business as usual. Given the atmosphere on the set, it did not feel safe to say anything. After all, on the average Hollywood set, finding a person of color is much like trying to find Waldo. It is a white, exclusionary culture. If this was an isolated incident, I would not have felt compelled to write this mission statement. Unfortunately, I find this attitude and behavior commonplace in Hollywood. I know many people who have experienced this kind of indignity on a movie or television show set, and you can be sure this kind of thing is going on in the corporate culture as well. There are many who would argue that the status and power people achieve here is part of the attraction and glamour of Hollywood, and others who climb this ladder of success and are dealt these indignities are just "paying their dues."

I believe those who hold this opinion are part of the problem. Asian-Americans are under attack in this country right now. Americans of Asian descent who contributed to the Democratic National Committee are being investigated and harassed, having to prove, beyond what is reasonable and just, that they are actually citizens of this country. It is no accident that political contributors from places like Europe, Australia or Canada have never suffered from such scrutiny. A recent issue of the National Review displays on its cover the Clintons and Al Gore in yellowface with buck teeth and slanted eyes. You can be sure the National Review would never have dared to paint the Clintons in blackface on their cover. The fact that they had the grotesque audacity to do this in America in 1997 is nothing less than a call to action, not only for Asian-Americans but for all Americans.

When the rights of one group of Americans are threatened, America itself is threatened, and we shame the ideals of America. Too many Americans have the mentality of someone who just stepped foot on Ellis Island breathing in the promise of freedom, only to turn around to the person behind him and yell, "Go back to where you came from, you damn foreigner!" In movies and television, Asian characters, mostly men, are subjected to indignity and/or violence or are tokenized, while Asian women are exploited as objects of sexual desire. You rarely see Asian characters in leading roles that contain any significant power or influence. The award-winning documentary, Who Killed Vincent Chin, tells the story of a young Chinese-American man in Detroit who was brutally murdered by two white men who mistook him for Japanese, and thereby held him responsible for their unemployment in the automobile industry. These two men were acquitted and never spent a day in jail.

Hate crimes against Asian-Americans are on the rise in this country, and negative portrayals of Asians in the media only encourage this trend. There are many who believe Asian-Americans have nothing to complain about and that we are the "model minority." But the model minority myth is just that-- a myth. As immigrants, we are often not welcomed. We are treated as outsiders regardless of how many generations we have been in this country. We are viewed as "people of color" and face the oppression of racism. We make up more than one-half the world's population, yet in spite of our numbers and contributions to the world, our images and perspectives are seldom seen. Our histories and our cultures are obscured, overlooked, buried or tokenized in a world dominated by Western classism. Our voices are seldom heard, our stories are left untold, and our realities are seldom represented by those who control the means and resources to name and shape a picture of reality. In spite of our diversity, in spite of our unique histories and cultures, we are often represented as a single homogeneous group. Asians are the nearly silent, nearly invisible, majority of the world.
Wake Up America!

We live in one of the most racially divided cities in the world, still recovering from the aftershocks of a racial riot/uprising and the OJ Simpson trial, which made it clear to all in America that white people and black people live in entirely different worlds. This does not even speak to the many issues involving all the other people of color in this country who struggle with racism, but are left out of the dialogue by people who see the issues only in black and white. Other cities may choose to ignore these problems. Los Angeles cannot afford to. The state of affairs in this city, as well as the attitudes and ignorance of many in Hollywood, are what will lead us to our next crisis unless we talk openly and honestly about what we can do together to solve these issues. It is my passionate, heartfelt belief that the level of despair being felt in Los Angeles, as well as around the world, makes this state of affairs in Hollywood completely and unequivocally unacceptable.

His Holiness the Dalai Lama said in a statement on March 10, 1997: "In the closing years of the 20th century, a new way of thinking has become the necessary condition for responsible living and acting. If we maintain obsolete values and beliefs, a fragmented consciousness and self-centered spirit, we will continue to hold on to outdated goals and behaviors, our century could be called the century of war and bloodshed. The challenge before us, therefore, is to make the next century a century of dialogue and nonviolent conflict resolution." There are courageous people all over the world fighting and risking their lives for liberation and justice. If Nelson Mandela can find the strength to survive 27 years in prison and emerge as the leader of his nation, if His Holiness the Dalai Lama can continue to pursue a path of nonviolent struggle against the genocide of one of the most spiritual and beautiful cultures on this planet-- then we in Hollywood can surely muster up a fraction of that courage and take a stand and speak out against anyone who does not support the principles of integrity, justice and compassion. We, more than any other people anywhere in the world, have the ability and resources to be generous of spirit, open of heart and express to the rest of the world, through the various mediums of communication at our disposal, the very best of the human spirit.

We have within our power the ability to express on a global scale the divinity that exists within every human being regardless of race, nationality, religion, class or whatever other characteristic we use to separate ourselves from each other. In other words, we can facilitate the ability of every human being to see himself or herself in every other human being. Imagine that! White people and black people recognizing themselves in each other. Jews and Arabs, Irish and British, Chinese and Tibetans, Korean-Americans and African-Americans, the haves and the have-nots, imagine the oppressors seeing themselves in the oppressed and vice versa. But we cannot communicate this unless we are willing and able to live it as well. It is time for a revolution. A revolution of the heart. Don't wait for some leader to help guide the way. Instead, find one in the mirror. Become a leader in your life and in your world and stand up for what is right in every small moment of your life. After all, the only thing that really exists is the moment.

Know that in each and every moment, you have the ability to alleviate the suffering of another human being and thereby remove one drop from an ocean of suffering and sadness in the world. "Four score and seven years ago, our forefathers brought forth upon this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal." Do you remember these words? Do you know who said them? Abraham Lincoln in his Gettysburg Address. I first heard these words in the fourth grade in upstate New York, and I memorized the entire speech so I could deliver it to my classmates, all of whom were white, as part of a public speaking exercise. This memory has just now come upon me and I am astounded by this memory. As a young Korean-American boy, I barely knew what I was saying. I was only concerned that I spoke clearly, memorized all the words, and that I continued to move my head left and right so everyone could see my face. As I remember these words now, as a Korean-American man, that all men (and women!) are created equal, I realize these words are coming back to me now in order that I may save my own life.

Movies are America's greatest export. It is the one industry that America has always been the best at in the world. Communication is our greatest resource. Wake up Hollywood! Wake up America! The world is in a horrible crisis-- the time has come for us to muster up our courage and open our hearts against the cruelty of our time and live out of and communicate the most important message of all: Love. In the process, we will save ourselves from ourselves.

-+-+-+++- (ooo), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Do the Right Thing?! I don't remember an Asian character in that film at all...?

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh yeah D motherfucker D

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

was he also the firecracker'ing asian guy in diapers in boogie nights?

phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Why would his character in Fargo be offensive to Asian-Americans? I am not aware of the Japanese-American-Minnesotan-who-pathologically-lies-and-acts-like-a-creep stereotype.

Supercub, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

weak emasculated asian male crazy for white women

-+-+-+++- (ooo), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

basically a tragicomic version of
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/07/Sixteencandles.jpg/180px-Sixteencandles.jpg

-+-+-+++- (ooo), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link

poor Geddy Watanabe.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

SEARCH: Adrian Tomine's interview with Gedde Watanabe in Giant Robot #24.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't stand Tomine.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 22:36 (seventeen years ago) link

on the commentary track to donnie darko, the director(name is escaping me right now) talks about Mike Yanagita and how he really read the character as a catalyst for Margie to see through Jerry once she had the follow-up phone call exposing M. Yang as lying about his background, etc.; and, then, how he abides by this principle about even bit characters serving a larger purpose and such. basically gushes about it and has created/is supporting this whole way of thinking about his process based on it.

It's just such a wrongheaded foundation, though. Margie is a cop/detective. she knows the world isn't roses and kittenpaws even though she's midwestern and kind. plus, Jerry is the squirrliest guy ever and she clearly suspects he's being disingenuous, even before he blatantly flees the interview at the dealership. Richard Kelly(remembered) is trying way too hard to make a classic character/scene more than it is. Plus, Domino could've been so much better and I really blame the script. dude is on my shitlist.

Jimmy_tango, Wednesday, 3 May 2006 00:07 (seventeen years ago) link

his name is Dave Park, btw

ant@work.com, Wednesday, 3 May 2006 00:40 (seventeen years ago) link

WOOPS! Steve, rather.

ant@work.com, Wednesday, 3 May 2006 00:45 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, does this mean I have to start hating .....


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timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 01:24 (seventeen years ago) link

"the show truman capote cant get on the air"!!!!

-+-+-+++- (ooo), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 01:25 (seventeen years ago) link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d0/Lookwell.jpg

-+-+-+++- (ooo), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 01:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I disagree[d] with Jimmy_tango:

This is how I've always seen it. Marge is in town to check on the car dealer and the Native American guy. Since she's in town, she decides to go ahead and meet up with this old friend. After the awkward lunch, she finds out that her perception has been skewed and too rosy, hearing from another friend that her lunch partner lied about the dead wife, was living with his parents, and had tried this before.

Being a little jaded and mistrusting, she goes back to the dealership to confront Jerry. Jerry takes off, and she (and the rest of the police) realize that they have their confirmed suspect.

Why else would Marge go back to the dealership? A lesser movie would've had her lying in bed with flashbacks of Jerry dulling his pencil lead or something with her sitting up going "A-ha!" Instead, we get this very real reason why someone would just all of a sudden decide that a sketchy situation was worth taking a second look.

-- Pleasant Plains (acewhiske...), October 13th, 2004 12:19 AM. (Pleasant Plains) (link)

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 03:31 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah Margie is a cop/detective. she knows the world isn't roses and kittenpaws even though she's midwestern and kind doesn't work very well for me. that's not the way the story and the characters pan out at all.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 12:01 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, kittenpaws

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Movie Answer Man

Roger Ebert / June 1, 1997

Q. I've spoken to several knowledgeable film goers and no one has given me a satisfactory explanation as to why the scene with Chief Gunderson (Frances McDormand) and her Asian high school friend Mike Yanagita (Steve Park) was included in the film "Fargo." Your comments? (Kerry Glicken, Highland Park, Il).

A. This is the most common question asked about the film, and now that it's out on video, people are asking again. The scene functions in several ways. (1) It works on its own terms, as a wonderful little human drama. (2) It shows that Marge Gunderson, so competent as a police officer, is still capable of being thrown in a social situation. (3) Most importantly, it separates her two crucial meetings with the suspect Jerry Lundegaard (William H. Macy). She interviews Jerry almost as an afterthought at the car dealership (where she went looking for Shep Proudfoot). Then she has dinner with her old friend Mike. The next morning, she learns in a phone call that everything he told her was a fabrication. Then we see her looking thoughtful in her squad car. Then she returns to the dealership to ask Jerry more questions--and this time he cracks and flees the interview. Being deceived by the school friend nudged her to replay her original interview with Jerry. Imagine the Lundegaard interview as one unbroken scene, and you can see how much less effective it would have been. The delay between the scenes also allows us to imagine Lundegaard marinating in his guilt and fear, setting up his extreme nervousness when she returns.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

ONLY DIFF BETWEEN ME & FATTEY IS THAT I DON'T GET PAID FOR IT.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

READ ONE RAYMOND CHANDLER BOOK

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

seriously just one, that's all it takes

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoa, Steve Park and Kelly Coffield are married??

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

haha i love kelly coffield

-+-+-+++- (ooo), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, i guess the foundation isn't wrong, it just makes me like the movie less by interpreting it that way. it's just too easy and i don't like that level of interconnectedness in a movie otherwise grounded in reality...like, you can't have it both ways...make a generally baseless (i don't mean 'bad', btw) film where i'm expected to allow coincidences and the like to support the plot and questioning them is a waste of time vs., i dunno, naturalistic stories that aren't necessarily so unified...

...it strikes me as edging toward the M.Night Shamyll- school of this ultra-significance to detail that serves as a puzzle that you are supposed to piece together. maybe i am taking it too far but i think richard kells was extrapolating the scene thusly and i wish he wouldn't.

Jimmy_tango (Jimmy_tango), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...

I want an Accordion King poster.

chap, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 16:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Kid looks like Jake Gyllenhaal xpost

G00blar, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 16:34 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

I never really connected with Fargo the first couple of times (had trouble getting beyond all those "yah"s initially), but now I watch it every couple of years and count it as an all-time favourite. Two things I noticed last night: 1) how John Carroll Lynch (Marge's husband) is the guy who plays Arthur Leigh Allen in Zodiac--he nicely underplays both characters, but they couldn't be farther apart as to how you perceive them; 2) Marge says "You betcha" at one point, thereby joining Edith Prickley as a blueprint for you-know-who.

clemenza, Sunday, 1 August 2010 00:02 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Methinks the reason they put it in the film, and the reason for Marges surprise when she learned he was lying, is because she felt sorry for him and boned him. They had to cut that out though, because she was pregnant. Just a thought.

pwn5tar, Sunday, 15 August 2010 08:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Struggling for Dignity

Is this the only time in the last twenty years that anything good has ever accompanied the phrase "Wake up, America!"?

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 15 August 2010 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF3z-j8o39I

City of Jorts (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 7 April 2011 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...
three months pass...

this is our only fargo thread?

there's a tv show now? with martin freeman?

goole, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:29 (ten years ago) link

& key and peele apparently?

Jordan Peele as Webb Pepper[2]
Keegan-Michael Key as Bill Budge[2]

who is playing mike yanagita?

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:43 (ten years ago) link

From what I've read, the show seems "loosely based on" the movie. It's not the exact same characters but similar types.

jaymc, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:47 (ten years ago) link

ok but whos playing margie? that melissa mccarthy would b good amirite

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 19:08 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/dc3fi.gif

Cronk's Not Cronk (Eric H.), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 19:38 (ten years ago) link

Best Coen Brothers movie

goole, shakey revived this thread a couple weeks ago

k3vin k., Tuesday, 15 April 2014 19:39 (ten years ago) link

ah ok

figured it'd be better on a dedicated fargo thread since the coens aren't involved at all (beyond getting paaaid)

goole, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 20:11 (ten years ago) link

i don't even get FX!

goole, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 20:12 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

TV show is wonderful.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 2 May 2014 00:58 (nine years ago) link

Yeah I just spent all weekend watching both the OG movie (which I hadnt seen before somehow!!) and then the 3 eps out so far of the series.

It is really fucking good. Billy Bob Thornton's manipulative, delighted menance is just.... so fucking perfect, I loved him.

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Monday, 5 May 2014 01:40 (nine years ago) link

Perhaps "bemused" is better than delighted but you can see he's loving the shit out of the horrible things he's doing.

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Monday, 5 May 2014 01:40 (nine years ago) link

The little twist last ep linking the events of the show to the events of the film was very cleverly done.

One thing it's lacking is the movie's undercurrent of profound sadness, but maybe that's coming later.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 12 May 2014 02:35 (nine years ago) link

But in terms of pure watchability I honestly think there might not be anything better out there right now.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 12 May 2014 02:36 (nine years ago) link

I dunno I think Martin Freeman does the crushed-under-heel hopeless everyman sadness rather well!

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Monday, 12 May 2014 03:44 (nine years ago) link

Perhaps we need a proper thread for the show.

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Monday, 12 May 2014 03:44 (nine years ago) link

If only for us two, Trayce:

We need a thread for the FARGO TV show yah? Oh, yah!

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 12 May 2014 11:07 (nine years ago) link


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