this whole surveillance society has been way over sold
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 18 January 2009 09:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/major/35790-problem-flight-1549-your-thoughts.html
― velko, Sunday, 18 January 2009 09:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
― velko, Sunday, 18 January 2009 09:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
chilly.
― mose def (kenan), Sunday, 18 January 2009 10:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
if thats the only video of the crash i see i might go on a random stabbing spree
haha I watched that for my girlfriend. "Don't bother," I advised after. I took the bullet.
― mose def (kenan), Sunday, 18 January 2009 10:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
Kenan = hero
― mose def (kenan), Sunday, 18 January 2009 10:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
Slightly better footage here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7835497.stm
― ailsa, Sunday, 18 January 2009 12:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
it's a shop
― ledge, Sunday, 18 January 2009 12:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
Maryann Bruce, 48, of Cornelius, North Carolina, said that while others were "thinking of dying, I was actually thinking about living. I wanted to see my kids and my husband." She said she had survived disasters before, including the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Centre, where she worked then.
"I must have nine lives," she said. "I was vacationing in Honolulu and had to be evacuated for a tsunami. I was skiing in Denver and had an avalanche. I was at the big LA earthquake.
― cozwn, Sunday, 18 January 2009 13:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
sounds pretty hairy after the crash, which isn't really communicated by the videos
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/18/hudson-york-plane-crash
― cozwn, Sunday, 18 January 2009 13:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
i am flying tomorrow, why am i reading this thread/watching those youtubes???
― the fap where all the dudes fawned over my chick (stevie), Sunday, 18 January 2009 13:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
It's very Final Destination.
― Jarlrmai, Sunday, 18 January 2009 14:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, why did I sit up all night watching the news about this, pretty much the day before I was due to fly home... over the Hudson? (Damn pretty view, though.)
― Get Cake. Wear Cake. Fly. (Masonic Boom), Sunday, 18 January 2009 15:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
I don't know- I flew friday and saturday and I still watched all the videos, and read lots on it. As plenty of folks have noted, it's more dangerous driving on the highway to the airport than getting into an airplane.
― lyra, Sunday, 18 January 2009 15:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
Also, you know, people survived and pilots are awesome. It's kind of reassuring.
― ailsa, Sunday, 18 January 2009 15:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
I remember talking to a colleague in NY after the TWA800 crash and him being inappropriately upbeat because "who had ever heard of two planes going down?".
― The Unbelievably Insensitive Baroness Vadera (Ned Trifle II), Sunday, 18 January 2009 16:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
― The Unbelievably Insensitive Baroness Vadera (Ned Trifle II), Sunday, January 18, 2009 10:09 AM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark
that is usually my attitude, tho. statistics are on your side
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Sunday, 18 January 2009 16:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
^ gamblers' fallacy
― ledge, Sunday, 18 January 2009 16:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
^ not sure you understand the gambler's fallacy
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Sunday, 18 January 2009 16:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
totally agree, but i know what i'm going to be thinking about until we touch down.
― the fap where all the dudes fawned over my chick (stevie), Sunday, 18 January 2009 16:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
you what, another plane crash now is just as likely as it was four days ago.(which is still not very likely at all stevie ;)
― ledge, Sunday, 18 January 2009 16:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh, right. it's not gambler's fallacy to say that statistics are on yr side re: plane crashes, tho! didn't realize you were referring to NedT's comment
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Sunday, 18 January 2009 16:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
xpost That's still not the gambler's fallacy, brah.
― mose def (kenan), Sunday, 18 January 2009 16:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
plane crashes have just about zero to do with gambling. You want to gamble? Drive a car.
― mose def (kenan), Sunday, 18 January 2009 16:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
it's not gambler's fallacy to say that statistics are on yr side re: plane crashes, tho!
I think that's just what i'm saying! But who's 'you'??!?
Gambler's fallacy = betting on black 'cause red has come up seven times in a row, that's just the same as saying it's ok to fly now 'cause a plane has just crashed, so another one crashing is less likely.
― ledge, Sunday, 18 January 2009 16:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
It's like saying there's won't be another earthquake, because lightning never strikes twice in the same place. So yeah, I think we're square.
― mose def (kenan), Sunday, 18 January 2009 16:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
― ledge, Sunday, January 18, 2009 10:47 AM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark
that isn't what i said. that's what ned said. i said "statistics are on yr side." which equals = planes don't crash much. not, "a plane JUST crashed so therefore it's safer to fly now."
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Sunday, 18 January 2009 17:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
tho i guess saying "that is my attitude" suggested that i was indulging in the fallacy. what i meant, i guess, is "the chances of a plane crashing are slim," so i am usually upbeat about flying, whether or not another plane has recently crashed.
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Sunday, 18 January 2009 17:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
The alternative is to go all "hot water burn baby" and scream and punch your head and then drive or take a boat. Which is always an option.
― mose def (kenan), Sunday, 18 January 2009 18:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
im sure there are no irrational fears skulking the shadows of psychological kenan
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 18 January 2009 18:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
― mose def (kenan), Sunday, January 18, 2009 8:49 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
actually no because earthquakes happening in the same place aren't independent statistical events, neither are lightning strikes for that matter (i think). what it's most like is "betting on black 'cause red has come up seven times in a row." / pedantic
― matt p (Matt P), Sunday, 18 January 2009 19:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
Otm; lightning striking somewhere is obv indication that that place is more likely to be struck by lightning again in the future than a random other place. The difference may or may not be slim though.
― anatol_merklich, Sunday, 18 January 2009 23:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
...that's what ned said
Actually it was my colleague who said it! And I really wanted to say to him "I don't think that's quite right" but dude was waiting to fly so I thought better of it. He made it back OK.
― The Unbelievably Insensitive Baroness Vadera (Ned Trifle II), Sunday, 18 January 2009 23:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
Isn't it great to hear about someone (with a splendid name) using their skill and competence to achieve something?Ryan, Leeds, UK
― cozwn, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 10:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7887555.stm
I'm guessing all Americans are asleep but damn.
― i'm getting too old for this ship (a hoy hoy), Friday, 13 February 2009 08:20 (11 months ago) Permalink
random...
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Friday, 13 February 2009 08:21 (11 months ago) Permalink
feel bad for buffalo too, good city
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Friday, 13 February 2009 08:24 (11 months ago) Permalink
shit
― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 13 February 2009 08:39 (11 months ago) Permalink
whoa i am from upstate and have a lot of friends who go to university @ buffalo...need to check this out :/
― some black dude (k3vin k.), Friday, 13 February 2009 10:16 (11 months ago) Permalink
i mean i'm sure everything is OK but i'm sure it's a big deal around there right now
"The house was already flattened. There was no house, just a pile of rubbish and still burning," he said.
Americans don't say "rubbish", bad BBC.
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 13 February 2009 10:34 (11 months ago) Permalink
Just... horrible.
When did it stop being the convention to mention the subject of terrorism (and/or 9/11, and it's lack of relevance) in any aircraft-related incident?
― more private than a bar stool (Upt0eleven), Friday, 13 February 2009 10:39 (11 months ago) Permalink
library has fox news on, and the anchor was referring to the irony (more synchrony imo) of one of the dead passengers being the widow of a 9/11 victim on her way to buffalo to present an award in his name
― some black dude (k3vin k.), Friday, 13 February 2009 10:49 (11 months ago) Permalink
yikes. hope its no one horseshoe knows.
― max, Friday, 13 February 2009 11:51 (11 months ago) Permalink
sorry, is that insensitive? you know what i mean.
― max, Friday, 13 February 2009 11:52 (11 months ago) Permalink
Kanye...lied?
― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Friday, 13 February 2009 11:52 (11 months ago) Permalink
Everywhere else quotes him as saying 'rubble'.
― James Mitchell, Friday, 13 February 2009 11:55 (11 months ago) Permalink
Eckert was traveling to Buffalo for a weekend celebration of what would have been her husband's 58th birthday. She also had planned to take part in presentation of a scholarship award at Canisius High School that she established in honor of her late husband.
http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/578061.html
― James Mitchell, Friday, 13 February 2009 11:57 (11 months ago) Permalink
Another victim of note -- Alison des Forges:
The death was confirmed by Human Rights Watch, the New York-based advocacy group where Dr. Des Forges, who lived in Buffalo, served as senior adviser for its Africa division.Dr. Des Forges spent four years interviewing organizers and victims of the Rwandan genocide, in which hundreds of thousands of people died. She testified before the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda, based in Arusha, Tanzania, and expert panels convened by the United Nations and what is now the African Union, as well as the French and Belgian legislatures and the United States Congress.The MacArthur Foundation recognized her work with a $375,000 “genius” grant in 1999. Her book “Leave None to Tell the Story: Genocide in Rwanda,” published that year, was considered one of the most authoritative accounts of the genocide.
Dr. Des Forges spent four years interviewing organizers and victims of the Rwandan genocide, in which hundreds of thousands of people died. She testified before the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda, based in Arusha, Tanzania, and expert panels convened by the United Nations and what is now the African Union, as well as the French and Belgian legislatures and the United States Congress.
The MacArthur Foundation recognized her work with a $375,000 “genius” grant in 1999. Her book “Leave None to Tell the Story: Genocide in Rwanda,” published that year, was considered one of the most authoritative accounts of the genocide.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 February 2009 19:20 (11 months ago) Permalink
NEW YORK – A publicist says two members of jazz musician Chuck Mangione's band were among those killed on the plane that crashed into a Buffalo, New York, house.Publicist Sanford Brokaw identifies the band members as Gerry Niewood and Coleman Mellett.In a statement Mangione, said: "I'm in shock over the horrible, heartbreaking tragedy."
Publicist Sanford Brokaw identifies the band members as Gerry Niewood and Coleman Mellett.
In a statement Mangione, said: "I'm in shock over the horrible, heartbreaking tragedy."
― Pancakes Hackman, Friday, 13 February 2009 19:36 (11 months ago) Permalink
And you shouldn't laugh at what comes up at :20.
― •--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 27 February 2009 22:32 (11 months ago) Permalink
amzing
― ice cr?m, Friday, 27 February 2009 23:09 (11 months ago) Permalink
super great + informative article in vanity fair
http://www.vanityfair.com/style/features/2009/06/us_airways200906?currentPage=1
answers a lot of (dumb) questions like the one i posed very early in this thread about why planes could not be devised to withstand bird strikes. in fact, says the article, they have been, just not for the weight of canadian geese, which is probably impossible. anywho, the article contains many words on the nuts and bolts of plane engineering and bird strikes and landing with no engines but it all circles back very well to the hudson river landing. very informative, very entertaining.
― cumlords 2pac big please talk to this sucker (J0rdan S.), Monday, 11 May 2009 06:30 (8 months ago) Permalink
it's very historical, and also contains a cool aside about a pilot flying a commercial plane who ran out of fuel in the middle of the night over the atlantic but was able to glide the plane onto an airport on some island
― cumlords 2pac big please talk to this sucker (J0rdan S.), Monday, 11 May 2009 06:31 (8 months ago) Permalink
it also says that every person who has tried to land at la guardia in simulations of flight 1549 has failed
― cumlords 2pac big please talk to this sucker (J0rdan S.), Monday, 11 May 2009 06:33 (8 months ago) Permalink
this picture still gives me chills errytime
― cumlords 2pac big please talk to this sucker (J0rdan S.), Monday, 11 May 2009 06:37 (8 months ago) Permalink
by the same guy in the same magazine on a similar subject, also compelling
http://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/2009/01/air_crash200901
― zinguist (cozwn), Monday, 11 May 2009 11:04 (8 months ago) Permalink
Much about those particular geese will never be known—for instance, where they came from, and where they were headed, and why
Call yourself an investigative journalist?
― N1ck (Upt0eleven), Monday, 11 May 2009 11:10 (8 months ago) Permalink
But their legacy remains.
― •--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 11 May 2009 15:11 (8 months ago) Permalink
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 13 November 2009 23:45 (2 months ago) Permalink
Well, there ya go:
"He doesn't know I'm gonna say this, but I had joked the other day that ... the hero sex really helps a 20-year-old marriage," The Associated Press reported Mrs Sullenberger as saying.To which Mr Sullenberger added: "Rock star sex."
To which Mr Sullenberger added: "Rock star sex."
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 November 2009 16:38 (2 months ago) Permalink
it's gonna suck next time a plane loses control within sight of a river and everyone just expects the pilot can cruise on down without too much trouble.
― rap band (schlump), Monday, 23 November 2009 16:57 (2 months ago) Permalink
lol @ 3:12 he says "Nice view of the Hudson today." Oh, just wait.
― james cameron gargameled my boner for life (Pancakes Hackman), Monday, 23 November 2009 17:12 (2 months ago) Permalink