2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

they're ridiculing it because they're wingnut losers who think that if a bank is putting out diversity press releases then they must not be focused on saving themselves

I wish Thanksgiving was before the election so I could argue politics with my relatives. Finally, a year when I think I could beat some sense into them.

Lindsey Graham, on the Today Show (via TPM):

What's more important than anything that when we go to Mississippi tonight, both candidates can say that the Congress is working, back in business, that we have an outline or proposal that will protect the taxpayer and save the country from financial Pearl Harbor, as Warren Buffet called it. We are not there yet, but we will get there.

I thank John McCain for his excellent outlining work. I hope there is a PowerPoint presentation with stick figures.

i am still reeling over that 2nd couric/palin interview that I watched last night

I hope my three normal cousins, their spouses and I will just be grinning smugly come Thanksgiving. No words necessary.

McCain is so fucked.

Schaudenfreude is a wonderful thing.

I can't think of a reason why Ed Schultz would have sources in the McCain camp, but fwiw

catfish and fried okra at Ajax -- go populist.

R2000: O 48-43
Rasmussen: O 50-45
Diageo: O 49-42

^^^ OTM

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Apparently Katie asked her, "what's the worst thing Dick Cheney did", and she answered "Shooting his friend with the gun".

verrrry interesting

Both McCain and his Democratic rival, Sen. Barack Obama, would leave the White House without comment, and the meeting was described as among the wildest in memory. A beleaguered President Bush had to struggle to maintain order and reassert himself. And when Democrats left to caucus in the Roosevelt Room, Paulson pursued them, begging that they not "blow up" the legislation.

The former Goldman Sachs CEO even went down on one knee as if genuflecting, to which Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Cal.) is said to have joked, "I didn’t know you were Catholic."

It was McCain who had urged Bush to call the White House meeting but Democrats made sure Obama had a prominent part. And much as they complained later of being blindsided, the whole event turned out to be something of an ambush on their part—aimed at McCain and House Republicans.

"Speaking professionally," said one Republican aide, "They did a very good job."

When Bush yielded early to Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D- Nev.) to speak, they yielded to Obama to speak for the assembled Democrats. And it was Obama who raised the subject of the conservative alternative and pressed Paulson on what he thought of the idea.

House Republicans felt trapped—squeezed by Treasury, House Democrats and a bipartisan coalition in the Senate. And while McCain spoke surprisingly little after asking for the meeting, he conceded that it appeared there were not the votes for the core Paulson plan without major changes.

Good God, can't DailyKos get someone who writes at least at the high school level?

DailyKos "gets" tens of thousands of people; anyone who wants to post there

i generally read on the linked material, not the poster's content

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Debate is on

Quelle surprise

whew good thing McCain took a timeout to save the economy. Glad that's all taken care of.

What's weird to me is that McCain KNEW Obama would nix the idea of cancelling the debates - so he knew he'd have to come do it tonight - so he knew he'd end up in this bad-optics-for-him situation of ASKING Obama for a favor and Obama saying NO - and McCain unable to do anything about it except do what Obama says! It paints McCain as weak, and Obama in the decision-maker's shoes. Yet they knew it would happen that way. I don't see the upside.

Plus here's McCain with a deal NOT struck.. turning up for a "campaign event"!

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2008/09/26/opinion/26suboped_ready.html

McCain is dumber than a bag of hammers

(sorry, I had to go there)

There's a line forming: my mom finally rang and said we're all jealous of Sarah Palin because she's so damned cute.

F(L)AIL

hahaha yay Stadler and Waldorf

There's a line forming: my mom finally rang and said we're all jealous of Sarah Palin because she's so damned cute.

waht

I mean, I am, but she's also incredibly dumb.

was that op-art brought to us by the newly-Muppets-pimping Disney Corporation, whose ABC Television Group got shut out of the debates this year?

Cute for (vice) president!

OMG how old do I feel? Chuck D looks like he's 15 there.

What's weird to me is that McCain KNEW Obama would nix the idea of cancelling the debates - so he knew he'd have to come do it tonight - so he knew he'd end up in this bad-optics-for-him situation of ASKING Obama for a favor and Obama saying NO - and McCain unable to do anything about it except do what Obama says! It paints McCain as weak, and Obama in the decision-maker's shoes. Yet they knew it would happen that way. I don't see the upside.

otm

I still have a weird faith in the GOP election machine though; I keep seeing McCain's campaign do fuckup after fuckup but I'm assuming it's part of some genius master plan that involves releasing Michelle Obama's "whitey" tape and capturing Osama days before the election. I mean, if they could run a successful second-term campaign for Bush they can do anything. But so far I have not seen it synthesize into anything but a series of mishaps.

machine is broken yo

If the economy melts down before November, the last thing "middle America" will care about is an old tape of Michelle Obama dressing as Angela Davis for a Halloween party.

http://www.monksmedia.com/NDP-Logo1.JPG

I love that they picked two photos where McCain/Palin look like deer in the headlights.

The main thing I've taken away from this election is that the Republicans seem hellbent on wresting the "Cutting Off Your Nose To Spite Your Face" trophy from the Democrats.

John, stop stealing Sarah's jackets, you choad:

http://bradley.chattablogs.com/dr.evil.jpg

It paints McCain as weak, and Obama in the decision-maker's shoes. Yet they knew it would happen that way. I don't see the upside.

I think it did accomplish the purpose of putting him in the spotlight and giving him the initiative. By holding the debate hostage, the focus was put on McCain's power to make a decision altering the dynamics of the race. On some level, it makes him seem more powerful, more active.

debate was never "held hostage" - it was going to go on without him and turn into a town hall PR event for Obama, basically.

A town hall event that few would have watched.

I think it did accomplish the purpose of putting him in the spotlight and giving him the initiative

and leaving him looking like an idiot, so far. I was unsure when this stunt started that it would end up this way, but so far, wow.

A town hall event that few would have watched.

what channel were they gonna turn to?

it made mccain look like a clown

lol every time i heard paulson say "700 billion dollars" i thought of this dude
http://bradley.chattablogs.com/dr.evil.jpg

Apparently Katie asked her, "what's the worst thing Dick Cheney did", and she answered "Shooting his friend with the gun".

this would be really funny if she were saying it to take the piss

HBO, TBS, CW, ESPN........

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the debate was never really in danger of being cancelled -- mccain bluffed & got called on it