2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

IN THE BAG!

Ok buying a t-shirt on the internet is lame, I know this, but still.

http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/stylinonline_2017_199542751

who the hell is that?

airbrushed at the fulton mall?

That's Obama if he were part of the JLA and drawn by Alex Ross.

I like the black velvet painting vibe. Though it's still not as good as

http://slog.thestranger.com/files/2008/05/obama420.jpg

that football poll matches what I predicted as the final popular vote

trackers
Gallup - 49-44
R2000 - 49-42
Rasmussen - 48-48

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/09/19/palins_favorability_ratings_tumble.html

http://www.faithmouse.com/obama_victory_unicorn.jpg

it's really annoying that "election" isn't in this thread title btw

CQ's Map

Tossups: CO, FL, NH, NM, NV, OH
Lean McCain: AR, MO, VA, WV
Lean Obama: IA, MI, MN, PA, WI
McCain-Favored: AZ, GA, IN, LA, MT, NC, TN

Symmetry required gabbneb to start this, xp

I'm not sure about Florida.

the much-vaunted migration of Cubans over to the Dems' camp probably won't happen.

no one is, xp

vaunted by whom?

Obama may be running closer to Gore than Kerry in Central FL

vaunted by whom?

Every two months the NYT and Miami Herald run stories about the "evolution" of the Cuban vote.

Right, I gather it's the "I-4" corridor where McCain is lagging. Does that include St Pete?

the vote can evolve and still be won by the GOP

Diageo: Obama 45-44

Indiana (Rasmussen): McCain 49-47

what the fuck?

rove

Sounds like a Fred Phelps thing to me.

Central FL is apparently where the big non-cuban hispanic growth is

the Disney vote.

http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/0/1/0/4/16854010-16854014-slarge.jpg

http://democraciausa.org/en/releases/democracia_usa_launches_2008_central_florida_hispanic_voter_project/

I saw similar protesters at another obama speech, they didn't seem to have a very clear idea of what they were talking about. they started protesting, got shouted down, and obama quieted everyone down and let them ask a question. they asked why he didn't do anything for blacks and was silent about katrina and he then kindly, methodically tore their question to shreds.

Haha, nice. How did they react?

they just went silent. I saw this on youtube about a month ago. they were barely able to ask the question they claimed to have which made me think they'd been placed there by someone.

I grew up in central Florida (Boca Ciega Bay represent) but I've been gone for 20 years now; when I lived there it was demographically like Michigan, but way older.

http://michaelwarns.com/

Also this: http://www.michaeldefeatssatan.com/

When America gave women the right to vote. How? Because they out number men 40 to 1

Kinda neat:

http://www.sciencedebate2008.com/www/index.php

A queer lefty gives up on the Dems:

http://gaycitynews.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=20127506

In Election 2008, the Democrats are almost more Republican than the Republicans I wouldn't vote for in '88 or '92, '96, '00, or '04.

They are promising, for example, to dump way more money than Bush into faith-based programs that will not only erode the church-state divide, but strengthen anti-choice, anti-gay forces. In a careful and deliberate campaign strategy to court conservatives, LGBT folk have already been shoved to the back of the bus in favor of highlighting homo-hating evangelicals. Positive statements about abortion have reportedly been withdrawn from the websites of many Democratic candidates....

I quit. As they say, "If all you ever do is all you've ever done, then all you'll ever get is all you ever got." And sometimes less.

I can't be blackmailed any more that a certain candidate will spell the actual end of the world. Admit it. The Bush administration wouldn't have been so destructive if not for the Congress members of both parties that were complicit at every step. And two years ago, when Democrats claimed the majority in both Houses, they could have brought the Bush administration to a complete standstill. The Republicans did it to Bill Clinton. But with the Democrats, it was pretty much business for Bush as usual.

We'll only get more of the same if we continue to vote for them, however reluctantly.

Well that's a moronic attitude.

They are promising, for example, to dump way more money than Bush into faith-based programs that will not only erode the church-state divide, but strengthen anti-choice, anti-gay forces

link?

there isn't one.

"link?" is the most dumbass of Gen Y perpetual questions. Write her.

in dr morbius' day they hadnt even invented the footnote

Well that's a moronic attitude.

If you support, say, gay marriage, and political party doesn't, it's moronic to...not vote for that party's candidates? Can somebody tell me what the hell is going on? Midge, help me out here.

obama is the most progessive candidate i can think of on gay-rights issues. in, uh, ever. and giving money to 'faith-based' charities and other organizations isn't really all that bad an idea. but sure dont let that stop you.

morbius, if you're going to go ahead and post half-assed invective containing half-truths and lies, please don't be a fuckbag when someone asks you to back up your sources. i know it's your "thing" to keep pretending that mccain-palin is somehow the exact same thing as obama-biden because lol u r old and u seen it all but seriously grow up.

Re: the science questions Ned linked to: I quoted (unadmiringly) McCain's answer on the space question upthread. To me it seems that neither set of answers are particularly impressive, tbh. (Although, while I know a bit about science policy in general, I'm far from an expert on how it works in the U.S., so take that with a pinch).

In other news, hackers at it again:

http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Obama-Deletes-Inbox_redo.jpg

I wonder if the church in my neighborhood with the humongous rainbow flag out front will get any faith-based grants.

http://www.queerty.com/queer/kellyjeanH.jpg
fyi the chick who wrote that article doesn't think "mccain-palin is the exact same thing as obama-biden":

McCain did what 18 million women couldn't. By choosing Sarah Palin to run as VP, he got Obama and the Democrats to retrieve women from the shit heap where we'd been dumped. Thank you, Mr. McCain, for your unintentional service to America, and challenge to Democratic Party misogynists. Without your nomination of Sarah Palin as VP, advocating abortion and progressive Supreme Court nominations would once again be women's only visible roles. Fall in line, the Dems blackmail us, or you'll lose the little you've got. The only real issue for women, half the American population, is apparently reproduction. Since McCain nominated Palin, it's been ever so slightly harder for Obama's attack dogs to continue to dismiss disgruntled Hillary supporters as divas, McCain plants, or simply nuts - i.e., go back in the attic where you belong, madwomen. Suddenly our votes count, and attacking us endlessly means risking that women like me will either vote for McCain and Palin, or just stay home. Every misogynistic sneer, every suggestion we females stick to questions of female plumbing tells us Democrats don't give a crap about what we think, and that we're not seen as a valuable part of the economic and social recovery of the United States.

And the Democrats have burnt plenty in the name of unity. Trying to force Hillary out of the race when it had just begun. Making us fight for a roll call to register the votes she won. Resorting to nomination by acclamation.

That's not unity. It's a tyrannical attempt to erase dissent, and above all, erase women. Women of all races. It was a black woman, Sheila Jackson Lee, who Obama told to get over it. Party Unity My Ass. What Democrats were aiming for was victory, sheer domination over Hillary. Like when one wrestler has the other down on the mat with their arm twisted out of their socket and their legs broken in several places.

Confronted with that, Sarah Palin is a better role model for young women and queers, despite her conservative social views, than the likes of a retooled Michelle Obama. Palin took on the corrupt Republican establishment in her state. She defeated oil companies. She may wear go-go boots and drop litters of babies, but she's a fighter.

Remember what that is? Queers don't. In this election, the Log Cabin Republicans have been totally invisible. And queer Dems have been reduced to jumping for joy because Mrs. Obama turned up at an LGBT delegates luncheon.

You can take my uterus and shove it.

"link?" is the most dumbass of Gen Y perpetual questions. Write her.

― Dr Morbius, Friday, September 19, 2008 6:59 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I am Generation X, probably as old if not older than you are. when you cut and paste stupid shit on the internets like others have said, i expect you to be able to back it up.