committed anti-feminists are among the creepiest people alive imo

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"men's movement" pshaw

goole, Friday, 8 August 2008 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link

what they need is some kind of online comic strip to endear themselves to haterz

blueski, Friday, 8 August 2008 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.angryharry.com/

goole, Friday, 8 August 2008 15:32 (fifteen years ago) link

http://desertlightjournal.homestead.com/movement.html

goole, Friday, 8 August 2008 15:32 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCk0SNaAhJ8

goole, Friday, 8 August 2008 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjPJra71LwM

goole, Friday, 8 August 2008 15:36 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, they're right up there with serial killers

Edward III, Friday, 8 August 2008 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link

yes they are right up there

goole, Friday, 8 August 2008 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/user/ArgusEyes

goole, Friday, 8 August 2008 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link

XP VENN DIAGRAM

Laurel, Friday, 8 August 2008 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link

define creepy?

ken c, Friday, 8 August 2008 15:39 (fifteen years ago) link

want some more fun? go find out about the 'Concerned Women of America.'

kingfish, Friday, 8 August 2008 15:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Personally I define "creepy" as "making me need to put a lot of distance between me and that thing because my automatic/instinctive response wd be to climb walls and claw through doors in order to escape current proximity". I try to pay attention when that happens.

Laurel, Friday, 8 August 2008 15:42 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah.. i think of creepy as in "creepy crawly" i.e. like spiders and stuff, they're scary cos you can't see them.

"angry harry" being loud going all guns blazing with some retarded website doesn't seem creepy to me, cos you can hear him coming like miles away

ken c, Friday, 8 August 2008 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2008/08/why-the-falling.html

tyler cowen posts about the nuttiest bs essay about 'women' i've ever come across (and it's in the occidental quarterly, shocker), calls it evil, hilarious comments ensue

goole, Friday, 8 August 2008 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link

kind of reminds me of the guy who wrote an entire book about the possibility of sex and love with robots, who staunchly denied having any interest in having sex with a robot himself - there's a similar protestation that this is all just about justice, right and wrong - in a public sphere sense - when you just know it's all about some private thing these guys will never talk about or admit to, or even realize themselves, in a million years

Tracer Hand, Friday, 8 August 2008 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link

What Devlin's trying to say, or should be saying, is that if a woman wants to win a commitment from a man, she needs to signal her faithful commitment to that man. Some of the traditional ways for women to do this were by lovingly cooking the most special food he eats, washing and sewing the most special clothes he wears, and similar. The results were sensual effects that touched most men deeply. Cooking and sewing have lost most of their practical value but none of their symbolic value, where the men are not alpha males (whose commitment in our society is difficult to win by any means) and have not been corrupted by feminism which, not coincidentally, goes far out of its way to disparage these signals of caring commitment.

Far more importantly, though, (and Devlin himself emphasizes this), women, if they want to enter happy marriages rather than enter ones full of miserable jealousy or remain single, must continually send strong signals of their commitment to be faithful. This is now practically impossible to do in the West. The vast majority of modern Western women are such thoroughgoing sluts, or have at least been so influenced in their behavior by their slutty friends to act as if they are, and so cheered on in this by the alpha-male-run mass media and by the legions of beta male dupes of same, that they cannot with any credibility send such signals. Women traditionally could be considered virtuous until proven otherwise, but today you're an idiot to not consider the Western woman a fickle slut unless proven otherwise.

Mate-guarding behavior and fidelity are another set of cultural norms that were once, when the West was monogamous and on the rise, rather than polygamous and in decline, considered the highest virtues, but that the alpha mass media has turned these too into the most despised of beta male traits. Once Christianity, like Islam, instituted the death penalty for female adultery, as well as a wide variety of other legal and informal norms to enforce monogamy and thus make most men see marriage as desirable. Men in the best Western societies made strong investments of time and money in caring for their children, because they were psychologically confident that these were indeed their own children, but this is no longer the case. The rise of the mass media in the West gradually swept these values away until the Hollywood century destroyed them. Now most "Christianity" is really just the claim to believe in Jesus while following the teachings of Hollywood. It bears far less resemblance to the two millenia of Christian teaching upholding monogamy than does modern Islam. Most "Christianity" today is effectively and quite ironically far more polygamous than Islam. It is to Islam or forms of Christianity that are now only historical that we must turn to if we seek a return to monogamy and the preservation of the civilization that monogamy made possible.

Or we can regress to polygamy and barbarity, but this time with lost boys wielding nuclear weapons. Your choice.

Posted by: truthseeker at Aug 4, 2008 5:42:07 PM

goole, Friday, 8 August 2008 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link

http://podcast.inmotionhosting.com/ISR49.jpg

ian, Friday, 8 August 2008 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link

hstencil.jpg

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 8 August 2008 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link

your choice

Tracer Hand, Friday, 8 August 2008 16:14 (fifteen years ago) link

kind of reminds me of the guy who wrote an entire book about the possibility of sex and love with robots, who staunchly denied having any interest in having sex with a robot himself

Yeah I read an interview w/this guy once & the same thing struck me. Arf.

As per thread title, yes, I agree. Creepy and boring too.

Pashmina, Friday, 8 August 2008 16:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Houllebecq to thread

contenderizer, Friday, 8 August 2008 16:36 (fifteen years ago) link

if only!

goole, Friday, 8 August 2008 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link

reminds of this hitler dot org site i found yesterday. really creepy so-called "objective facts" about nazism.

s1ocki, Friday, 8 August 2008 16:43 (fifteen years ago) link

A professor I know in cog. neuroscience has met robotssex man at various conferences, and his basic comment was he "doth protest too much".

jocelyn, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Why would you get worked up about someone like this?

Seriously, it's weak.

Ned Trifle II, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Dave Sim lololol

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68l4XUeJYo0&feature=related

Music: The beatles, Pink floyd, Led zeppelin, King Crimson, Yes, Wishbone Ash, Iron Maiden, Beethoven, Deep purple, Dream Theater, Radiohead, Eagles, ELO, Genesis, Mansun, Paul Simon, Steely dan, Spock's Beard, ZZ top, Strawbs

Dude would fit in pretty well here.

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link

That link led me to this Kids in the Hall-esque effort --

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0KPYl7XVcQ

-- which had a couple lols in the second half.

Charlie Rose Nylund, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Dude would fit in pretty well here.

How do we know he's not?

Bring it on!

Ned Trifle II, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Dude needs to get laid.

Ned Trifle II, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link

TL;DL

Laurel, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Dude would fit in pretty well here.

Based on music taste, dude would fit in pretty well most places.

Charlie Rose Nylund, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Laurel is getting really good at being an internet hardman. :D

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 8 August 2008 19:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Only really works if you don't have to look up the acronym.

Ned Trifle II, Friday, 8 August 2008 20:29 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.themansnononsenseguidetowomen.com/

this gentleman is on Bill O'Reilly's show fairly often

daria-g, Friday, 8 August 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

"Marc ... I am a huge fan of yours."

Erich "Mancow" Muller
Host, The Mancow Show
Syndicated via Talk Radio Network

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Friday, 8 August 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

end self-destructive chivalry

ahahahaha

dan m, Friday, 8 August 2008 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/27762

goole, Friday, 8 August 2008 21:10 (fifteen years ago) link

What YOU Will Learn from
Under the Clitoral Hood

* That everything you've ever learned about women is wrong
* How to know in advance she’ll be safe for you, compatible with you, and have real orgasms—so you don’t waste your time
* The ins and outs of female genitalia—know how to please her!
* How to seduce her without physical contact, money, or alcohol
* Why she is more sexual than you, and why that saves you money
* That she'll take your money but won't respect you (LISTEN)
* Why she likes bad boys
* How to make her crave you and not cheat on you
* That YOU can be happy and she can be happy—at the same time!

somebody place a very powerful magnet next to this guy's nuts or something so he can't breed

J0hn D., Friday, 8 August 2008 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link

What YOU learn
under Clitoral hood

* that all the you' ; The VE learned on the women is indeed
* as it is with l' advances false for you surely knows, in a way compatible with you and has of Orgasmen-so truths which do not waste you your time
* the characteristics of Mrs. Genitalien-wissen, as one likes it to him!
* Allured like it without physical contact, money or l' alcohol
* why it is more sexual than, you and why that stores you l' money
* this she' ; L won' takes however your money; t-Respekt it (HEARING it) * why it wants bad lots
* as it you and the defrauder cannot be aspired on you
* that YOU can be fortunately and them to be to be able, glücklich-year same time!

quelqu' one to place a very productive magnet close to this guy' ; or - slightly thus him can' s-Nüsse; t-Brut

Just got offed, Friday, 8 August 2008 21:30 (fifteen years ago) link

straight eng-german-eng is funnier:

From which THEY learn
under the Clitoral hood

* that all you' VE at all one learned in advance it is wrong
*reliably for you knows, compatibly with you and has material Orgasmen so, you your time does not waste
* the characteristics of the Mrs. Genitalien-wissen over women is
* like, how one pleases her!
* As one entices it without physical contact, money or alcohol
* why her more sexual as if is, you and why you money stores
* this she' ll however won' takes your money; T-respect you (you HEAR)
* why bad boys likes it
* like one it you and cheat does not let himself be longed on you
* that IT happy and they can be to be to be able, happy on the same time!

someone set a very efficient magnet near this guy' S-Nüsse or - somewhat so it can' T-brood

Just got offed, Friday, 8 August 2008 21:35 (fifteen years ago) link

does not let himself be longed on you

Just got offed, Friday, 8 August 2008 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link

why are you doing that

goole, Friday, 8 August 2008 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Louis has discovered online translator humor, watch out world

J0hn D., Friday, 8 August 2008 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link

neither of you ain't gettin' none of my T-respect

Just got offed, Friday, 8 August 2008 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Rolling Louis Jagger Go To Bed Already Thread for 2008

Mr. Que, Friday, 8 August 2008 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link

basically i am in the self-loathing cycle of random internet aggression and event-horizon humor failure accrued through four days in the same pair of pyjamas spent on ILX

Just got offed, Friday, 8 August 2008 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean, they seem to know so little about feminism that I can't imagine many of them were brought up by or around feminists. But they get angry about it in a way that suggests some kind of acquaintance.

maybe it's too much unreconstructed freudianism but it'll be damned if this sorta thing doesn't scream oedipal panic to me.

ryan, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 22:00 (ten years ago) link

As ilx's most fervent anti feminist i'd be happy to guineau pig or answer questions

should we bin tapping? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 22:05 (ten years ago) link

Really curious to see if any MRAs have commented on the Saatchi/Lawson pictures.

Theodora Celery, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 22:08 (ten years ago) link

Ah, then, darragh, which tenets of feminism would you be objecting to?

Aimless, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 22:14 (ten years ago) link

Ah now here, i meant my oedipal complex, daddy and mommy issues, yknow the real nitty gritty stuff

should we bin tapping? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 22:19 (ten years ago) link

lol what

Treeship, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 22:20 (ten years ago) link

Really curious to see if any MRAs have commented on the Saatchi/Lawson pictures.

― Theodora Celery, Tuesday, June 18, 2013 11:08 PM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the BNP's Nick Griffin did, thought I guess he's more a WMRA.

data halls and oate (stevie), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 22:48 (ten years ago) link

I swear to god I saw about 5 brotypes last night at this outside bar I was at and they ALL had those ugly khaki shorts and shoes thing going on (no fedos tho), it was to the point me and my date commented on it.

Its the middle of winter here. Whats with that look?

It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 03:51 (ten years ago) link

Doesn't your winter begin in a few days? Middle before it's started this year.

pareidolia, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 04:07 (ten years ago) link

started nearly 3 weeks ago iirc

terbil truths (electricsound), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 04:09 (ten years ago) link

yeah its already past solstice or near it, isnt it? And yeh what jim said.

It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 04:12 (ten years ago) link

oh wait, arent we the only country that starts winter calenderically, or something fuckity?

It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 04:14 (ten years ago) link

i wonder what MRAs do to prepare for the solstice

Treeship, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 06:01 (ten years ago) link

great setup, treeship.

dylannn, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 06:07 (ten years ago) link

i was hoping dmac or someone would come in and say something funny. that might still happen.

Treeship, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 06:10 (ten years ago) link

I kind of find them heartening, you know as useless antibodies of the patriarchy?

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 06:22 (ten years ago) link

Lt. Gen. Susan Helms is a pioneering woman who finds her career stalled because of a war on men—a political campaign against sexual assault in the military that shows signs of becoming an effort to criminalize male sexuality.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324021104578549891063938034.html

treeship, are you worried about an effort to criminalize male sexuality?

dylannn, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 06:46 (ten years ago) link

nope. male sexuality is affirmed in almost every aspect of our contemporary culture.

Treeship, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 13:57 (ten years ago) link

making society a target rich environment

Aimless, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 15:53 (ten years ago) link

lol

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 21 June 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link

eleven months pass...

what is wrong with the world

macklin' rosie (crüt), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 17:07 (nine years ago) link

Goddamn these fucks are really bubbling up to the surface a lot lately. It's their moment, in all its horror.

₴HABΔZZ ¶IZZΔ (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link

I used to think they didn't exist and were just a couple dozen people on redditors who were overrepresented in the comments sections of articles about feminist topics.

Treeship, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:04 (nine years ago) link

Women, always hysterical about something.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:05 (nine years ago) link

these guys are like a walking parody of ressentiment.

ryan, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:11 (nine years ago) link

this is my fave bit:

“We’re not surprised there’s resistance,” Elam said. “We understand that a lot of our ideas are very new and take some time for people to comprehend. We expect backlash and resistance.

goole, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:14 (nine years ago) link

what a bunch of dicks penises sausages shitheads

mikelovestfu (wins), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:15 (nine years ago) link

Yeah that's why I thought they were a fringe group whose online presence belied dwindling numbers. They just seem so absolutely ridiculous.

Treeship, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:15 (nine years ago) link

xp to ryan

Treeship, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:16 (nine years ago) link

loving the idea that hating women is some kind of brave new thing and not like the single most ancient thing a dude can be into

― as a dude (goole), Monday, November 24, 2008 4:41 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

goole, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:16 (nine years ago) link

ha, no idea what that d/n was about :/

goole, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:16 (nine years ago) link

But it was somehow less ridiculous to think that women were exaggerating, just blowing it all out of proportion, I notice.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link

xxxp

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:18 (nine years ago) link

im an inveterate optimist but i tend to think that if reactionary forces are reverting to this kind of calcified opposition then, while they are scary and potentially violent, that means the that status quo is very definitely threatened or evaporating right before them (or at least evolving into some other form that is not yet fully visible). they're circling the wagons.

ryan, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:23 (nine years ago) link

xp i'd never think in those terms and didn't think sexism didn't exist, just that fedora-clad self-described "nice guys" seemed too cartoonish, too neat a caricature, to represent a sizable contingent but this too was a problematic assumption because I wasn't listening well to what ppl were saying and i apologize for having held it.

Treeship, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link

multiple xps but Frank TJ Mackey (Cruise's character in Magnolia) is based on this guy (check out his blog at seduction dot com) and imo the whole seduction/PUA community tends to feed into a lot of mra rhetoric too, with its simplistic understanding of women and positioning of them as things to be won rather than people to be engaged with.

gyac, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 21:01 (nine years ago) link

Give 'em nine months and the MRA types will merge with the open-carry movement and most businesses will prevent them from coming in the door.

Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 21:25 (nine years ago) link

there are a shit ton of these folks all over youtube, as well. if you hate yourself a lot on a particular night, do a search for "misandry" on youtube and be treated to thousand of horrible 'video blogs'.

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link

"you're one of those self-hating males!"

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 22:02 (nine years ago) link

Open-carry of their manhood? xps

xelab V¸¸ (imago), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 22:04 (nine years ago) link

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 22:08 (nine years ago) link

:D

xelab V¸¸ (imago), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 22:26 (nine years ago) link

If these dudes were openly stomping around grasping their twanger in public as some sorta statement, then at least you'd be able to spot them from like 50m off and could steer a wide berth.

Or plow into them, I guess, depending on what you were driving.

Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Thursday, 5 June 2014 00:24 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

Somehow I just ran across this twitter feed

https://twitter.com/SnuffPornRing?lang=en

I just don't get humanity really. This is what his feed consists of:

* stuff about hockey
* calling a music reviewer a "cuck" for not reviewing the Strokes EP
* replying to random women far away from his city (Ottawa) when they post about hockey, asking if they want to have a "makeout sesh"
* calling those women ugly and dumb bitches on the rare occasions they reply to say "um no" to his suggestion of a "makeout sesh"
* use of the hashtag #jewshyster, and the phrase "Eastern-Euro ashkenazi mutts" refers to Jill Stein and Bernie Sanders as "jew eurotrash assholes"
* calling somebody else a "slutty piece of anti-israel jew-hatting america-hating filth"
* much praise for trump

also he is a standup comic, bet he's great

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 5 June 2016 14:14 (seven years ago) link

seven months pass...

i think about this thread a lot, in light of these people taking over the world

lex pretend, Saturday, 14 January 2017 12:52 (seven years ago) link

I keep hoping this is their last impotent gasp, that it'll all collapse before they do too much lasting damage, because they're generally sad, incompetent psychos/sociopaths.

But then again, they got this far.

It's called, "giving a shit". (stevie), Saturday, 14 January 2017 17:24 (seven years ago) link

it's true. when this thread first appeared i remember thinking 'wow, there are committed anti-feminists out there?' (as opposed to people who are just ignorant and misogynistic). but now it's a thing, it's a big movement. what i had originally assumed was the past-time of just a few butthurt weirdos with a bee in their bonnets is now part of mainstream discussion. and that's happened in just 8 years.

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Monday, 16 January 2017 15:53 (seven years ago) link


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