Come anticipate Fabio Capello's two years as England manager with me

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First squad to be announced at 1530 today, old and busted David Beckham out, the New Galactico Dave Kitson in, apparently.

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 31 January 2008 12:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

I'm torn here. I think sentimentally he should let Becks have his 100, but the message needs to go out that superstars can't pick themselves via the press anymore.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 31 January 2008 12:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

FOREIGNER DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE BECKS "PASSION" - SACK HIM

King Boy Pato, Thursday, 31 January 2008 12:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

ENGLAND EX-BECKS

Ronan, Thursday, 31 January 2008 12:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

Becks can bloody wait. it's only the bleedin' Swiss.

blueski, Thursday, 31 January 2008 13:11 (6 years ago) Permalink

defoe out leona lewis in

blueski, Thursday, 31 January 2008 13:11 (6 years ago) Permalink

it'd be interesting to see which keeper he goes for. Green, James, Carson and Hart all in contention. Possibly even Kirkland.

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 31 January 2008 13:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

CURTIS DAVIES

That mong guy that's shit, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:11 (6 years ago) Permalink

James
Carson
Kirkland

Bridge
A. Cole
Davies
Ferdinand
Johnson
Richards
Lescott
Upson
Woodgate
Shorey
King
Brown

Carrick
Barry
Hargreaves
Gerrard
Jenas
Downing
J. Cole
SWP
Bentley

Heskey
Agbonglahor
Owen
Rooney
Crouch

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

Owen

wait what

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

Wow, really struggling for forwards there

Tom D., Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

Young's in too, no? Rob Green must be wondering who he's gotta sleep with.

That mong guy that's shit, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

So he's picked every English player in the Premiership except Robinson and Green then?

Matt DC, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

and Dave "Dave" Kitson

onimo, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

Capello out.

Matt DC, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

RIP big man, heaven needed a dude who loved General Franco more than Dave Kitson

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

If I was Harry Redknapp or Martin O'Neill I would be straight on the phone to Jermain Defoe's agent like right now.

Actually I might kill myself first, then get on the phone.

Matt DC, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

BBC's saying Portsmouth have agreed a Defoe fee.

That mong guy that's shit, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

Does this mean Harry Redknapp is dead as well?

Matt DC, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

looks like he's angling for a 5-3-2 with that squad. normal back 4 with an extra man behind the 'keeper, just in case.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

ZEE 10 POINT ACTION PLAN FOR ENGLAND

1. sack Steve McClown

2. Get rid of Barwick, replace with David Boyle

3. Bring David James back for stability ...If David James woz in goal tonight he would have known about Kranjcar

4. Bring in Matty Taylor instead of Scummer bridge

5. Bring in Glen Jonno Johnson at right back, he would have been up against Kranjcar tonite

6. Switch Micah Richards to Centre Back

7. Instal Harry Redknapp as part time manager with Jamie Redknapp as assistant and Louise as half time totty cheerleader

8. go web2.0 with rateyourenglandplayers.com - Social media and user generated content is the future

9. instal systems thinking courses, there is more than 4-4-2 or 4-5-1

10. copy Arsene Wenger's Arsenal Blueprint of quick passing football

DISCUSS !

-- djmartian, Wednesday, 4 May 2007 22:44 Link

Matt DC, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

1. sack Steve McClown

3. Bring David James back for stability ...If David James woz in goal tonight he would have known about Kranjcar

And with these two already done, we're nearly 1/3 of the way to DJ Martianisation.

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

#6 looks a way off when you look at the squad but you never know.

Here's hoping MATTY TAYLOR impresses at wherever the fuck oh who cares where he is now.

Matt DC, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

4. Bring in Matty Taylor instead of Scummer bridge

To be revised.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

d'oh

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

My favourite thing about that post is how #10 is actually quite sensible after the steady crescendo of mentalism beforehand.

Matt DC, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

Louise as half time totty cheerleader

RIP djcalum

DJ Mencap, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:57 (6 years ago) Permalink

BBC transfer wire is, as usual, the most important source for hard deadline day facts:

1616: "Javier Saviola spotted at Fratton Park, by my mate... could be a wind-up."
bowkers123 on 606

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:58 (6 years ago) Permalink

I approve of the "fuck a bulldog spirit" message Capello's squad selection displays here.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

1642: "Gareth Barry has just been seen with his agent going in to Goodison Park, along with Theo Walcott."
jongre123 on 606

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

i have no idea why i'm posting those to this thread.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

harsh to have owen in ahead of defoe, tbh.

nice to see lennon dropped to the kids, he's needed a kick up the ar$e. feel sorry for dawson, but he's been poor lately so them's the breaks.

darraghmac, Thursday, 31 January 2008 17:00 (6 years ago) Permalink

1653: "Malcolm Macdonald spotted undergoing physical at St. James' Park"
mackem08 on 606

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 31 January 2008 17:02 (6 years ago) Permalink

If I was Harry Redknapp or Martin O'Neill I would be straight on the phone to Jermain Defoe's agent like right now.

Actually I might kill myself first, then get on the phone

You might want to take a look at Redknapp's house first before you kill yourself, at least think about it over the summer...

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 31 January 2008 17:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

He'll remember that fondly in jail.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 31 January 2008 17:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

He was actually there sunbathing. Caused much amusement on the boat.

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 31 January 2008 17:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

Brave new dawn, guys.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

GEEKS

ken c, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

i missed Jenas goal but the Swiss equaliser was great. Rooney and Gerrard did well to set up the winner.

blueski, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 22:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

WTF was Jenas doing on the pitch at the start? I know he's improved a lot lately but blimey. I didn't watch the game so this was all related to me via text which made it even weirder.

Portentious omen - this is Capello's precursor to also trying to fudge the Gerrard/Lampard problem.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 22:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

wright-phillips out

ken c, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 23:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

Italy thrashed Portugal 3-1.

Just saying, like.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 23:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

and Wales won 3-0

Wha?

Mark G, Thursday, 7 February 2008 09:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

Let's all point and laugh at the Norwegians.

King Boy Pato, Thursday, 7 February 2008 09:48 (6 years ago) Permalink

I did watch the Socceroos beat Qatar 3-0 and I'm not sure why.

King Boy Pato, Thursday, 7 February 2008 09:50 (6 years ago) Permalink

i don't watch much football but does Rooney always hogg the ball that much normally ?

Ste, Thursday, 7 February 2008 10:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

Only when he doesn't have C Ronaldo to carry him.

onimo, Thursday, 7 February 2008 11:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

so was that 4-5-1 last night?

blueski, Thursday, 7 February 2008 12:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I had a wry chuckle when I realised it was as well. Although in fairness to Fab it did turn into 4-1-2-2-1 at points.

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 7 February 2008 12:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

OK, 4-5-1 now rejigged to mean "OTM, but with workmanlike tedium"

That mong guy that's shit, Thursday, 7 February 2008 12:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

posts, flags

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

when, if ever, did you stop caring about the English football team?

France 2-1 England, June 13, 2004

le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

harsh, england were p good that match

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, i was feeling the fear that day

Number None, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

England - Ireland is always a footballing treat tbf

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

why can't i find a pic of that little fecker crying at the Landsdowne game?

Number None, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

harsh, england were p good that match

They spent a good deal of that game defending their lead, unsuccessfully as it turned out. I watched it w/an Irish friend (who was a good deal more pro-England than I was, oddly) and I told him I didn't mind who won, but by the end I was laughing at Englandd and happy for France.

Take no offence Angliski, I laughed at France when Senegal beat them in 2002.

le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Who the fuck is richard williams and why is his puke festering on the pages of my national newspaper

― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, February 9, 2012 9:57 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

glad someone else noticed. i did read it right didn't i?

'if foreign manager had learned more of our language and customs this wouldn't have happened (and england would be a better football team)'

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

it was a disgusting and stupid piece, as concentrated in its idiocy as anything i've seen/read outside of fry and warnock on SSN

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Even by the bonkers standards of NMA TV that was quite something.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Terry Venables for England!! Come on give El Tel th job!

jel --, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Or maybe Waddle and Hoddle.

jel --, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

The NMA John Terry is perfect:

James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Chuffing marvellous

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

john terry visits the US Marines

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

'if foreign manager had learned more of our language and customs this wouldn't have happened (and england would be a better football team)'

Because, apparently, the English are incapable of being smart enough to understand tactics and need to play under Hal V, w/his leadership skills. Apparently you are now a colony of the kind of Disney ethos that America adores, only at least, we do it way better than you.

le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Fabio Capello should have been removed as England manager following the 2010 World Cup, according to Football Association councillor Peter Coates.

Capello, whose side were defeated in the second round in South Africa, resigned on Wednesday.

Coates told BBC Sport: "We had a terrible World Cup, he was responsible for that and he should have gone then."

The Stoke City chairman also criticised Capello for "never having bothered" to fully learn English.
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Former Real Madrid and AC Milan manager Capello took charge of England in 2008, but after a successful World Cup qualifying campaign, his side were beaten 4-1 by Germany in the last 16 of the tournament.

The Italian also led England to qualification for the European Championship in Poland and Ukraine before resigning, but Coates feels that Capello's tenure was a failure.

"I don't see what we've gained under his term as manager," said Coates, who also sits on the FA's international committee.

"When they talk about qualifying for these competitions, I just can't go along with that. If we can't qualify for major tournaments, we are failing abysmally because we're seeded to get through. It should be a matter of course.

"I wouldn't give any manager great praise for achieving something that should be routine.

"You have to get into the last four [of major tournaments], if you've done that, you've done a good job."

Capello's resignation followed the FA's decision to strip John Terry of the England captaincy after he was charged with racially abusing Anton Ferdinand, claims the Chelsea defender denies.

Coates agreed with the FA's actions and feels Capello could have used the situation to engineer his exit.

"It was very difficult decision for the FA, and I think they got it right," he said.

"They should have had Capello as part of the discussion, that's what would normally happen at a football club.

"But the cynic in me says he might have manipulated this. He might have decided that was his opportunity to get out and he's taken it."

England Under-21s manager Stuart Pearce will take charge of the senior side for the friendly against the Netherlands, with the FA now beginning the search for Capello's permanent successor.

Coates says the FA needs to have learnt from Capello's reign, and joins the list of those calling for Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp to be appointed England manager.

"I hope lessons have been learnt because I would never have a manager who couldn't speak English. Capello never bothered to get himself proficient in the language, even though he said he would.

"I would never have a manager who had not had exposure to the English game. It has been proved that it doesn't work.

"I think the stand-out candidate is Harry Redknapp, every man and his dog knows that. He would be a good choice in my view and if a deal can be done I'm sure he'll get the job.

"Obviously it's complicated because he's got a big job at Spurs, but I'm sure he'd want the England job and it would be perfect for him.

"They sometimes ask you what you [the international commitee] think, but they know my views. It's their decision, and I hope they get it right."

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 10 February 2012 16:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Harry Redknapp, every man and his dog

once a weak eye sample (onimo), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

his incredibly rich dog

pandemic, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

why doesn't it surprise me that someone from Stoke would say "I hope lessons have been learnt because I would never have a manager who couldn't speak English. Capello never bothered to get himself proficient in the language, even though he said he would.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

I kind of agree that a manager should be able to communication with his players.

once a weak eye sample (onimo), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Although "I will kill you Theo" seems fairly fluent to me.

once a weak eye sample (onimo), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

"It was very difficult decision for the FA, and I think they got it right," he said.

"They should have had Capello as part of the discussion, that's what would normally happen at a football club.

"But the cynic in me says he might have manipulated this. He might have decided that was his opportunity to get out and he's taken it."

to string these 3 thoughts together diplays an idiocy that far outshines not being able to spell

mizzell, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

the fa got it right
actually they messed it up
i still think that foreign chap is sneaky and unworthy

mizzell, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't think those sentences contradict each other.
1 = I think they made the right decision
2 = but they way they went about making the decision wasn't ideal and offended the manager
3 = but then he might just have been looking for the chance to take offence so he could get out

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

uh oh

mizzell, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

wut

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Stoke City chairman also criticised Capello for "never having bothered" to fully learn English.
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This threw me for a second

Number None, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

same as

if capello's english was as poor as is being suggested, then that's a valid criticism imo.

i just doubt it

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

btw

With reference to this mornings mails from Martin's email this morning about John Terry actually being a nice guy, I would like to draw everybodys attention to a incident that occured when I was 13 or 14. I played to a relatively decent standard back then and played for my district side against teams all over the South-East. One of our biggest rivals was Barking & Dagenham who sported among others, Bobby Zamora, Paul Konchesky and the mighty JT (in a CM role) back then. One of my teammates was good mates with Terry and they played for the same sunday league side as well

I remember one summers day my mate bringing JT up to the local tennis club where I was also a member. Bear in mind that at this stage he was a nobody.
I think he was on the books of Chelsea but then so were a number of other guys I knew

So there we are, all having a few sets of tennis when JT decides to take his t-shirt off. Being a private members tennis club, some of the old boys watching went mad and proceeded to ask / tell him that we didn't do that here, and that there were standards that had to be adhered to

JT, being such a nice guy even then, turned round, looked the guys up and down and told them "to F**k off and die". He then picked up the nearest tennis ball and smashed it as hard as he could. Luckily he was rubbish at tennis so he missed by a mile but even as we walked off the court he was swearing at them and saying he'd be back to "sort them out."
Paul Higgins, Guernsey

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

superb

Number None, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

he's a complicated man

Number None, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

the inner life of john terry

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's probably a bit like John Malkovich's

Number None, Friday, 10 February 2012 18:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

directed by shane meadows

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Friday, 10 February 2012 18:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha did not know this about hiddink
In February 2007 Hiddink was given a six-month suspended jail sentence and fined €45,000 after being found guilty of tax fraud by a Dutch court. Prosecutors had demanded a ten-month prison sentence for Hiddink, who was accused of evading €1.4 million in Dutch taxes by claiming to be a resident of Belgium from 2002 to 2003. The Dutch Tax Intelligence and Detection Service claimed that he hadn't spent enough nights at his Belgian house which he had stated was his primary address. Hiddink denied this accusation.

mizzell, Friday, 10 February 2012 18:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yup. Ever since he vowed to never pay Dutch taxes again and stay away (or at least live abroad enough nights). It was a bit petty though, prosecution made a whole slew of errors.

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 10 February 2012 18:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

o yeah, that staying away part sounds familiar.

mizzell, Friday, 10 February 2012 18:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

...Hiddink, who was accused of evading €1.4 million in Dutch taxes by claiming to be a resident of Belgium from 2002 to 2003.

I somehow misread this as "by claiming to be President of Belgium"

Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 10 February 2012 18:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

West Bromwich Albion have given the FA leave to speak to Roy Hodgson about the vacant England manager job, the FA says

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

where are the drudge sirens?

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Matt DC should edit them in

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

good appointment, statesmanlike imo.

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think Roy deserves his own disastrous two years thread. Fab's old news.

we are not bemused (onimo), Monday, 30 April 2012 10:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'll get that

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 10:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

i went to this thread an hour ago to post 'lol' and before i hit submit i thought 'what am i doin this for' and i didn't post and i just read he's now manager of russia.

Weird.

starfish entryprize (darraghmac), Monday, 16 July 2012 12:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

probably because u were dimly and unconsciously aware of the capello to russia chatter which has been around for weeks

nakhchivan, Monday, 16 July 2012 12:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah arsh confirmed it a couple days ago

Yeah and I ~obstruction~ you/ya fucking blind cunt (pause) fucking k (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 July 2012 15:14 (2 years ago) Permalink


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