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Not just the best Mr Freeze opposite Adam West's Batman, but a long-take widescreen master of the noir, "the problem picture," the provocative censor-baiting melodrama. Subject of a just-begun NYC retro:

http://www.filmforum.org/films/preminger.html

Some primers:

http://www.panix.com/~sallitt/blog/2007/12/otto-preminger-film-forum-january-2-17.html

http://www.villagevoice.com/film/0801,pinkerton,78751,20.html

My breakdown...

Masterworks: Laura, Bonjour Tristesse

Major works: Anatomy of a Murder, Advise and Consent

Search: Where the Sidewalk Ends, Carmen Jones, The Man with the Golden Arm, Saint Joan

OK: River of No Return, Bunny Lake is Missing

Meh: Angel Face (why some think this is a nifty noir I dunno; good laffs tho)

Destroy w/ extreme prejudice: Skidoo

Unseen but intrigued: Daisy Kenyon (fixing this tonight), Margin for Error, Fallen Angel, Forever Amber, The Fan, Whirlpool, The 13th Letter, Porgy and Bess, Exodus, The Cardinal, In Harm's Way, The Human factor

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 3 January 2008 16:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

i am extremely under-premingered.

s1ocki, Thursday, 3 January 2008 16:11 (6 years ago) Permalink

Fallen Angel is great, definitely a major work.

Anatomy of a Murder is my favorite. Resaw Advise and Consent a few weeks ago: the first 90 minutes are just wonderful...then the hamhanded homo drama kicks in.

Walter Pidgeon missed his calling...he should have been a majority leader intead of actor.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 3 January 2008 16:12 (6 years ago) Permalink

'Resaw' now.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 3 January 2008 16:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

ya... that a new year's resolution or something?

s1ocki, Thursday, 3 January 2008 16:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

Never seen Bonjour Tristesse...just stuck it in my Netflix queue.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 3 January 2008 16:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

good, you won't suffer NY hipster assholes chuckling through the climax like I did at MoMA.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 3 January 2008 16:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

The Pinkerton intro's much better than the Apatow essay.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 3 January 2008 16:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

In Harm's Way is really good. Great cast.

C. Grisso/McCain, Thursday, 3 January 2008 18:02 (6 years ago) Permalink

I learned a new word.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 3 January 2008 18:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

brummagem.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 3 January 2008 19:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

I'm rather under-premingered too. Only seen Saint Joan and Bunny Lake is Missing, both of which were great. I kind of get why you might say the latter is only okay, but I recorded it by accident and got very drawn into the whole thing.

I've always been wary of watching The Man with the Golden Arm as I loved the book and don't want it spoiled, even though EVERYONE says the film is awesome, hm hm. I didn't even realise that Bonjour Tristesse had been filmed - I think that might work better as a film than the book...

emil.y, Thursday, 3 January 2008 20:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

Deborah Kerr is amazing in it, and Jean Seberg is better than she is in Saint Joan.

Olivier is very smart and funny in Bunny Lake, but I find the whole gothic bro-sis psych-horror plot a bit wheezy.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 3 January 2008 20:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

...Golden Arm is mad overrated: less cool than you'd expect from the accurate descriptions of the Preminger style in Pinkerton's essay. Sinatra's terrific, though.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 3 January 2008 20:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

maybe i should see advise & consent? river of no return could be interesting.

good, you won't suffer NY hipster assholes chuckling through the climax like I did at MoMA.

is MoMA noted for audience annoyance? I had to suffer thru commentary and kissyface at Fitzcarraldo.

gabbneb, Thursday, 3 January 2008 20:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

I think that might work better as a film than the book
Ha, I was just thinking the same thing, that the film is better than the book.

Man, I hope I get to see some of these.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 3 January 2008 20:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

gabbneb, you in particular would eat up Advise & Consent.

kissyface at Fitzcarraldo.

lol - huh?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 3 January 2008 20:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

srsly

gabbneb, Thursday, 3 January 2008 20:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

I think what you heard was just some loose denture hydroplaning, gabbneb.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 3 January 2008 20:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

must've been the naked injuns.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 3 January 2008 20:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

this couple was not geriatric

gabbneb, Thursday, 3 January 2008 20:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

MoMA is better known for people clacking their dentures (haha xpost), eating plums and punching each other, but occasional the younger Film Forum Snicker Brigade wanders in.

Yes 'neb, you will be riveted by Advise & Consent (even though it's based on a novel by a conservative -- the villain is a blackmailing peacenik Commie dupe).

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 3 January 2008 20:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

this def was not the Lincoln Plaza audience

gabbneb, Thursday, 3 January 2008 20:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

Not just the best Mr Freeze opposite Adam West's Batman
If only they had gone ahead with the original plan to have Cesar Romero play Gene Tierney's Latin Lover, Laura would have had yet another Batman villian associated with it.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 4 January 2008 01:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

Or if Dame Judith Anderson had been on Batman instead of Star Trek.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 4 January 2008 01:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

Daisy Kenyon is almost worth all the recent blogger ecstasy, especially for the first 2/3; here's something on it:

http://mattzollerseitz.blogspot.com/2008/01/you-jury-joan-crawford-otto-preminger.html

Dr Morbius, Friday, 4 January 2008 20:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

Dana Andrews is a hella good actor.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 4 January 2008 20:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

He's quite the antihero in DK.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 4 January 2008 20:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

I wanna read that Geoffrey O'Brien thing about him (or is it Luc Sante)

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 4 January 2008 20:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

thing? about Dana Andrews?

Dr Morbius, Friday, 4 January 2008 20:57 (6 years ago) Permalink

Yeah. It's in OK You Mugs. I think C0L!n said that was the best or only thing worth reading in there.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 4 January 2008 21:12 (6 years ago) Permalink

i've been seeing that book remaindered pretty much since it came out, and every so often i'll look in the contents to see if i recognize any of the contributors' name now. i *never ever do*. subtitling it 'writers on actors' was kind of oxymoronic.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, 5 January 2008 14:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

Geoffrey O'Brien, Luc Sante, Manny Farber, John Updike? Never heard of 'em

James Redd and the Blecchs, Saturday, 5 January 2008 15:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

Actually I remembered that I had already read that Dana Andrews piece in Castaways On The Image Planet.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Saturday, 5 January 2008 15:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

are they rly in it? obviously farber and updike i know. heard of sante.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, 5 January 2008 15:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

Table Of Contents
ILX favorites Frank Kogan and Greil Marcus too.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Saturday, 5 January 2008 16:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

oh klawans too huh.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, 5 January 2008 16:12 (6 years ago) Permalink

Fun fact: Godard seeked out Jean Seberg to be in Breathless after seeing Saint Joan (I've only seen Bonjour Tristesse).

Carmen Jones, yes. Amazing it was made when it was.

I really love Bunny Lake is Missing. Although it's harder to watch after the spoilers of a first viewing.

freewheel, Saturday, 5 January 2008 16:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

Saw Bonjour Tristesse. What an odd little film. Preminger rather slyly doesn't shy away from the sexual tension between sticky-wicket Niven and Seberg. She's awkward when bantering or acting most adolescent, but she and Kerr (who's really superb and looks great in Preminger's extended great) have great chemistry.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 7 January 2008 16:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

I love the MoMA film audience. It's always like 20% Jewish 75+ psychoanalysts.

Hurting 2, Monday, 7 January 2008 16:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

has "great" gone viral in Alfred's last line?

Its oddness is inseparable from its greatness. I wonder if Eric remembers it?

Dr Morbius, Monday, 7 January 2008 16:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

Also when I see things at MoMA someone usually starts talking to me without prompt, which I like.

Hurting 2, Monday, 7 January 2008 16:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

whoops typo.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 7 January 2008 16:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

Carmen Jones, yes. Amazing it was made when it was.

Why? It's a beautiful film, but it's also a segregationist document in its own way.

Preminger was bold, but he was also careful and canny. He wouldn't have stepped over any boundaries if he thought there would be real repercussions.

I think he's one of the greatest Hollywood directors mind.

amateurist, Monday, 7 January 2008 16:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

I've got Where The Sidewalk Ends arriving tomorrow.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 7 January 2008 16:48 (6 years ago) Permalink

I wonder if Eric remembers it?
Film criticism is the art of pretend forgetfulness.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 7 January 2008 17:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

I remember the movie, just not writing about it. No way in hell am I gonna read that piece now.

Eric H., Monday, 7 January 2008 17:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

A bunch of the earliest essays I wrote for Slant's 100 are painfully earnest, I bet. The ones on trashy movies are probably a lot better.

Eric H., Monday, 7 January 2008 17:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

Resaw Advise and Consent a few weeks ago: the first 90 minutes are just wonderful...then the hamhanded homo drama kicks in.

How would you prefer Kennedy-era studio films dealt with homosexuality?

Eric H., Monday, 7 January 2008 17:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

With less handwringing and a better actor than Don Murray. I don't mind the gay bar scene.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 7 January 2008 17:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

Also: is this the only instance in film of a feeble father-in-law?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 20 March 2008 19:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

the bio was returned today, I read about half.

yeah, the dad-in-law reallty rolled over for Dana. The child-abuse thing is kind of amazing.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 20 March 2008 19:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

a still newer bio, by Chris Fujiwara:

http://thephoenix.com/article_ektid61433.aspx

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 15 May 2008 19:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, I saw that in the bookstore a month or two ago and meant to post about it.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 15 May 2008 19:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Watching Bunny Lake is Missing tonight. Any thoughts?

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 June 2009 21:31 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

I seriously hope the audiences of 1944 realized that Vincent Price and Clifton Webb are playing insolent fags.

look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

Of course. But you need EVIDENCE. You need eeeeeeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvvvidence!

P.S. Bunny Lake is Missing = masterpiece, one of his many. In some ways, it's the perfect Preminger gateway drug since his observational style doesn't mute the thriller aspects that rise to the surface only in subsequent viewings of Fallen Angel or Angel Face. And what he does with Noel Coward is a moral triumph. We are not worthy.

Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 6 December 2010 22:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

Did you dig it?

Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 6 December 2010 22:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

I don't think Such Good Friends gets mentioned anywhere here. I used to watch it on TV in the '70s, hoping I'd see Dyan...well, never mind about my bilious private life. Saw it for the first time in ages last year, part of a Preminger series at the Cinematheque. It was okay, barely.

clemenza, Monday, 6 December 2010 23:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

Well, unsurprisingly, I love the shit out of it. Of his 1970s films, it's second only to his apocalyptic swansong The Human Factor. The ending of Such Good Friends offers one of cinema's great images of calm acceptance and mature focus, particularly felt after such a juicily off-kilter film.

Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 00:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

I did like the ending, and almost mentioned it in my post--couldn't remember specifically how it ended, though.

clemenza, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 00:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

Just remembered my favourite film joke ever, attributed to some famous director (forget who): "I passed Otto Preminger's house the other day--or should I say, 'a house by Otto Preminger'?"

clemenza, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 00:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

Did you dig it?

Laura? Yeah! I own it -- one of my favorite films.

look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 00:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

No, no, Bunny Lake is Missing

Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 00:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

saw Otto in the Nilsson documentary, encased in a groovy blue hippie outfit on the set of Playboy After Dark as Harry sang.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 07:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

I just started the Hirsch biography.

Should I bother with In Harm's Way? Not too stodgy?

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 July 2011 21:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

I bought a remaindered copy of this a few weeks ago:

I read the Advise and Consent chapter while killing time before a movie. Based on that, I'd never make it through the whole book:

"Appropriately, the dialogue of Advise and Consent is filled with performatives. Senators say 'I move,' or 'I yield,' or 'I ask,' or 'I suggest,' or 'I release,' and their saying these things effectuates the things they say."

Making it the complete opposite of American Beauty, where Kevin Spacey says "Pass the asparagus" and everyone ignores him.

clemenza, Monday, 4 July 2011 21:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Am reading yet another recently published bio of the guy different from the ones you guys are reading.

Safe European HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 00:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

j/k. But the guy does seem to have even more biographers than Nikola Tesla.

Safe European HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 00:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

oh, In Harm's Way is a must, if only for what Kirk Douglas's character... does.

anyone rep for The Human Factor? Dave Kehr presiding over a screening in Brooklyn Monday. I remember hearing Otto being interviewed by Julian Schlossberg (onetime studio exec) on his WABC radio show "Movietalk" when OP was doing press for it.

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 September 2011 19:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

ok, I guess it was WMCA or WOR (ABC was still a music station then)

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 September 2011 19:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

Anatomy of a Murder is so good. Jimmy Stewart's performance is the capstone of his fifties work: we see how his aw-shucks manner is an act, turned on and off for deliberate manipulative effect.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 01:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Criterion forthcoming btw.... supplements v intriguing:

http://www.criterion.com/films/27901-anatomy-of-a-murder

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 20:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

from G Kenny on above:

"Even in the wrong—-that’s right, wrong—-Academy ratio framing of this 1959 film released on DVD by Sony many years back, this picture maintained a great deal of its fluid multi-leveled visual complexity. The correct 1.85 framing and the boosted detail here (some of which, admittedly, conks out briefly for a shot or two at a time—look for decreased forehead-wrinkle levels in a shot in the first Gazzara/Stewart confab about 19 minutes in, for instance) AMPLIFY that quality, which helps in turn to reveal why it is, in fact, one of the Great Films. The shot of Stewart’s character scoping out the awards and newspaper clippings on the wall of the Thunder Bay Inn here shows Preminger as a definite info-fiend precursor to David Fincher. Haven’t explored extras but don’t need to to award this a personal:— A+ "

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

LOVE THIS MOVIE

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Seeing Laura this Sunday in its newly restored versh - can't wait.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

awesome

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 11 May 2012 04:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

Bonjour Tristesse is on now or soon at FF, I believe

The Unbassful Serpent (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

^^It's also due to be announced sometime soon on limited edition bluray from Twilight Time.

Leslie Mann: Boner Machine (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 13 May 2012 06:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

box o' three sleeper/dud '67-71 films:

http://www.slantmagazine.com/dvd/review/the-otto-preminger-collection/2478

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 13:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

so Jackie Gleason tripping balls isn't worth a look?

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 15:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

yes

doesn't mean it isn't awful

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 15:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

Need to check out some more stuff by this guy.

Anatomy of a Murder is brilliant – probably the best courtroom drama I’ve ever seen. There’s only one weak acting performance (from the main prosecuting counsel) which sticks out a bit but the rest of them are outstanding. Great score from Duke Ellington too.

Laura is super too. Beautiful theme music drifting through it.

Can't remember much about Bunny Lake is Missing a bit of an oddity as I remember...

Bonjour Tristesse was shown (restored!) at the London Film Festival this year. Didn't like it when I first saw it, find myself liking it more and more as time goes on.

Exodus lasts forever but was ok. The old story about it was that at a pre-release screening, one of the production company’s executives (a jew named Mort Sahl) stood up about 2 and a half hours into the movie and called out “Otto, Let my People Go!” (probably apocryphal)...

River of No Return was good but I’ve forgotten most of it. For years I’ve wanted to see Advise and Consent but have always missed it

Crackle Box, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 15:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

one of the production company’s executives (a jew named Mort Sahl)

uh? Sahl was one of the great innovative post-Catskills standup comics

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 15:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

(still living btw)

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 15:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

Ah yes, my mistake...

"When Exodus was first released, a funny story circulated concerning comedian Mort Sahl. Supposedly, he stood up in the middle of a premiere screening of the film with Preminger present and shouted, 'Otto, let my people go' in reference to the interminable length of the film. Most critics, but not audiences, tended to agree with Sahl."

Crackle Box, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 15:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

Bunny Lake will always be classic to me just because of that one turning point involving a doll

Nhex, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 15:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

Anatomy of a Murder is brilliant – probably the best courtroom drama I’ve ever seen. There’s only one weak acting performance (from the main prosecuting counsel) which sticks out a bit but the rest of them are outstanding. Great score from Duke Ellington too.

Always loved the way that the score runs through the first half of the film, which is lively and jumping as Stewart's record collection, before disappearing completely for the formal courtroom procedural in the second half, only returning in full swing once the film leaves the courtroom at the very end.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 16:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

watched 'bunny lake' for the 1st time - solid until the reveal, then nearly unwatchable

johnny crunch, Thursday, 30 May 2013 23:34 (10 months ago) Permalink

Agreed.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 May 2013 00:03 (10 months ago) Permalink

i don't know about "unwatchable," but the ending is definitely a letdown. before that there are passages that rival preminger's best work.

bonjour tristesse 4eva

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 31 May 2013 01:22 (10 months ago) Permalink

briefly available on DVD in spring '08, alas

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 May 2013 01:27 (10 months ago) Permalink

that chris fujiwara book mentioned above is pretty worthless IMO. just superficial "analyses" of films with very selective biographical information. and lots of errors of fact.

xpost

i sold my DVD of bonjour tristesse to ryuichi sakamoto!

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 31 May 2013 01:28 (10 months ago) Permalink

For the longest time, the Fry's by me kept a copy of BT in their "Foreign" rack.

Mr. Mojo Readin' (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 31 May 2013 02:09 (10 months ago) Permalink

that's understandable, i guess

is it just me who gets annoyed when foreign films are alphabetized by article? so "la ronde" is in the Ls (as are many if not most French films), "il grido" is in the Is, etc. i feel like video stores would be doing the world a service if they stopped this.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 31 May 2013 02:17 (10 months ago) Permalink

i will always love that ridiculous turning point/reveal in Bunny

Nhex, Friday, 31 May 2013 04:54 (10 months ago) Permalink

boy I can watch Advise and Consent at any time.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2013 23:35 (10 months ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Just watched the BluRay of The Court-Martial of Billy Mitchell, which is def not top-drawer Otto but is fascinating for its commonalities w/ Advise and Consent (politics, treason, D.C. locations), In Harm's Way (the military as a flawed and even sociopathic institution), Anatomy of a Murder (courtroom drama w/ special Method Actor prosecutor, in this case Rod Steiger). Also its current resonances with "a bad soldier" choosing country over Army -- Gary Cooper as Bradley Manning?

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 29 August 2013 13:21 (7 months ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

watched the cardinal, long but p good. feels almost gump-like where the main character gets involved w/ race relations in the us south and the rise of nazism in austria. it's also better when it's personal (his questioning his faith and relationship w/ his sister) than when global. some interesting wiki notes

The Vatican's liaison officer for the film was Joseph Ratzinger,[2]

also i thought tryon was really good - didn't know him at all, interesting life and -Thomas Tryon was born on January 14, 1926, in Hartford, Connecticut, as the son of Arthur Lane Tryon, a clothier[1][4] and owner of Stackpole, Moore & Tryon. - this clothing store still exists downtown hartford

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 01:38 (4 months ago) Permalink

I love Tryon's book Harvest Home.

tokyo rosemary, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 03:57 (4 months ago) Permalink


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