Is this the Juno thread?

there is something quite likeable about it once you get past all the "indie signifiers."

exactly.

man any interest I had in this (mostly bc of Cera & Bateman) is rapidly draining away.

Even besides all the indie sigs, besides the obnoxiously stylized dialog, the whole message of the film is srsly dubious.

If your teenage lover gets prego, don't sweat it, dude. With adoption, you can put blinders on, and after 9 kinda shitty (but kinda punkrock) months, she can forget about the whole thing too.

This film is an awesome sex ed tool.

my hangover's telling me not to see any movies made after 1978

Saw this tonight, and really hated that just about every character in the film practically screamed "I AM SUCH A QUIRKY WITTY SCREENWRITER, AND BTW I HAVE AWESOME TASTE IN MUSIC". I had to sneak into another movie afterwards just to get the bad taste out of my mouth.

Mostly OTM, although Janney, Batemen, and Garner are pretty good. They can act through a mouthful of moldy peaches.

This movie was too much like Ghost World, with Bateman playing Steve Buscemi in Gap clothes.

This movie was too much like Ghost World

I wish.

I liked it. I thought it was sweet.

i thought it was enjoyable too, though most negative comments here and elsewhere seem to center around the film's self-awareness and being too clever for its own good, which made me wonder: where is that line between clever and too-clever/in-love-with-its-own-cleverness, and how do you know when it has been crossed?

i suspect sincerity has a lot to do with it, and perhaps the film's first 15 minutes vs the rest of it is a good example of where that line is drawn. but again, i laughed at the first 15 minutes "despite" knowing how hard it was trying -- so does it really matter if it's not being "honest"?

I didn't laugh at all. These things are subjective. I mean, it was unbearable for a whole fucking hour before Reitman let things breathe.

when was the last time a screenwriter did this much more publicity for a film than the director?

i mean there are people like Charlie Kauffman who get press, but I don't think he went on TV with the star while Michel Gondry and Spike Jonze stayed at home.

when was the last time a screenwriter did this much more publicity for a film than the director?

If you ran a studio, would you support someone named "Jason Reitman" or "Diablo Cody"?

saw this. bad movie. bad bad bad.

but where are the screenwriters who want publicity?

I just saw it. First third is in overdrive establishing what a firecracker Juno is, but after the movie settles in, it improves.

The dialogue is way overwritten and everybody talks like uber-hip robots instead of like people but Michael Cera actually comes out human. It was interesting how we sided with the male yuppie at first and the woman seemed obsessive and anal until it switches and we come to see that she really wants this kid and the guy is a selfish prick.

The soundtrack is oppresively twee however. It's worth seeing and kind of enjoyable but nothing specatcular.

If the director had been a hipster stripper, I'm sure he'd get more of the press work.

a Stripster?

"Though the opening few minutes make it seem like it will the the MOST of those kinds of movies."

OTM, I was cringing for the first dozen or so minutes. Anyway I was bugged by all the usual things I am bugged by (overuse of soundtrack nonsense, cute-sy little credits, dialogue so snappy that it hurts your ears, and an overabundance of twee nonsense that even Miranda July might have thought better of filming) BUT to this movie's credit it's a lot better than most films of this ilk (esp. acting-wise) and a couple of affecting and funny moments manage to sneak in (possibly by accident.) I wouldn't recommend it to everyone, but you could do a lot worse.

The way Reitman primes the audience to laugh at Jennifer Garner's anal-ness, then shows how it's a symptom of her shyness and insecurity, is really well done.

i cant believe how much kimya dawson they crammed into this bullshit

Oh lord did this movie stink.

I liked Michael Cera ("Actually I try really hard," was the best line in the whole movie.)

I liked certain moments, but overall the whole thing felt like a hipped-up afterschool special or Christian teen flick, and it gave me the same nagging sense of distrust.

I could not stand the main character.

I went in fully prepared to hate every second of this movie, especially after seeing it chopped and parsed here and other places. AND considering I generally have a strong distate of the precious indie film genre already. So imagine my surprise at not only laughing through the whole thing, but finding it totally charming and kind of touching in spots. The first 15 minutes, as noted above, don't seem nearly as bad once you've moved past them in the story and can look back and see how they set up the "world" in which the movie exists.

The only real complaint was the copious amounts of music, especially the Kimya/Moldy Peaches content. Can't a movie like this have a score instead of a indie fuX0r soundtrack, fer chrissakes?

ugh

is this like thumbsucker?

I made it less than 10 minutes into Thumbsucker before I put it back in its Netflix envelope, so...no.

hey guys i don't want to see this

me too. also i liked thumbsucker.

It's better than Thumbsucker, but that's not much of an accomplishment really.

I liked Michael Cera ("Actually I try really hard," was the best line in the whole movie.)

I could not stand the main character.

these are both v. OTM
and they give away that michael cera line in the commercials!

i cant believe how much kimya dawson they crammed into this bullshit

-- bell_labs, Wednesday, 26 December 2007 05:44 (Yesterday) Link

holy shit so otm. so now i know what i've been uh, missing? fuck me. so, so bad.

anyway... so many hate-able things about this movie, quite a coup that I came away somehow kinda liking it. as noted above, some genuinely touching & funny scenes. also, props for not turning Bateman (or Garner, for that matter) into a monster.

that sonic youth record is just noise

went to see this last night at v. popular movie theatre and it was sold out!! that must be a good sign...

saw this on friday because my mom wanted to go for her b-day, and surprisingly, i didn't really hate it. lots of cringey things in it (way too much music and embarassing music references, pretty easy to see where the plot was going), but made up for with strong performances all around

during the opening credits, the song reminded me of barry louis polisar, this guy who made offbeat kid's music and who played at my elementary school in maryland, made me wonder what he was up to these days. yesterday i look up the soundtrack and i see the song was by polisar after all. today i look up his website and he's still going strong, playing in the maryland area and putting out kid's albums. i can still recite many of his songs from memory, i might need to buy a couple of his cds

The director and writer deserve a dart in the ass for the "All babies want to get borned" scene alone.

I agree. That's not a good sequence.

This movie is the most redeemed movie ever, judging by how many people (myself included) have gone the "I liked it better, I should have hated this" route.

I'm firmly in the "I mostly hated it, I should have liked it better" camp.

Yeah, I am in the camp that expected to hate this more than Garden State and Little Miss Sunshine combined, so I should hardly be surprised I didn't.

oh i definitely liked it more than garden state and little miss sunshine

also michael cera was very good and more of a presence than i expected after jaymc's comments upthread

yeah I would watch this again whereas GS & LMS not so much. Not that I necessarily hated the other two, just, you know... whatever.

The cutesy-folksy-Wes Andersony soundtrack = bleccch

Watching it a second time I realized ... the last entire 15 minutes of the movie is one big montage set to those shitty songs. There are, like, five in a row.

If you watch it a third time, you'll realize that the entire 90 minutes is one long montage of moldy peaches.

after pro-deregulation corporatism diguised as satire thank u for smoking and pro-life disguised as indie flick juno what right wing position will jason reitman make hip in his next movie?

http://archive.salon.com/ent/movies/review/2004/07/28/garden_state/story.jpg
"i have to tell you something... the surge is working!"

pro-life disguised as indie flick

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/ec/CitizenRuthPoster.jpg/200px-CitizenRuthPoster.jpg

ugh i forgot i had written this whole thing, which is like
http://cdn.idolator.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/16/macklemore-fur-coat.jpg
but

still

i hope dlh is having a good night

going to just listen to william orbit for the next 6 hours

"water from a vine leaf" on repeat

going to just listen to william orbit The Moldy Peaches for the next 6 hours

― jaymc, Sunday, February 16, 2014 1:16 AM (9 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Fixed

i think i'm gonna make another pb&j so night's lookin up

be well jmc

word. that was my dinner.

my only issue with her in "inception" was like "hi i'm exposition" but at the same time i am officially on record of LOVING THE EXPOSITION IN THE FILM "INCEPTION," DIRECTED BY CHRISTOPHER NOLAN (2010)

That Drake blog post is wow.

i hadn't put it together that she's played a love interest of M Cera and J Eisenberg; gotta be a joke in there

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/05/17/juno-diablo-cody-georgia-alabama-abortion-bans/?utm_term=.739c68911421

Ellen Page has come out as Trans, and is now Elliott Page.

Storybook ending if he and Drake end up together.

Elliot Page's abs look better than Drake's, and that is exactly the kind of Canadian on Canadian violence I rock with

— Obdurate Good Faith (@LiveNudeJulia) May 25, 2021