I think it is!
― Tape Store, Saturday, 24 November 2007 05:51 (5 years ago) Permalink
Paste just called it the number one film of the year...Not that I trust Paste, but I'm a sucker for "All the Young Dudes" and Belle & Sebastian.
― Tape Store, Saturday, 24 November 2007 05:52 (5 years ago) Permalink
But I also have this bad feeling that it will be like Junebug (one amazing performance stuck in a terribly mediocre film)
― Tape Store, Saturday, 24 November 2007 05:53 (5 years ago) Permalink
Here's the trailer
― Tape Store, Sunday, 25 November 2007 23:04 (5 years ago) Permalink
Junebug was so horrible. But my dog liked the beginning yodeling.
― Yerac, Sunday, 25 November 2007 23:05 (5 years ago) Permalink
this looks so awful
― milo z, Sunday, 25 November 2007 23:08 (5 years ago) Permalink
by "one amazing performance" I hope you're talking about Vern Schillinger
― milo z, Sunday, 25 November 2007 23:09 (5 years ago) Permalink
it's not that bad but it's not that good either. the dialogue was real bad and it's pretty corny indie but even if it wasn't executed so amazingly i was glad to see a movie about a teenage girl who is interested in things and has a personality w/o being old guy jerkoff fantasy
― A B C, Sunday, 25 November 2007 23:42 (5 years ago) Permalink
Except she is, kind of. But I actually thought was the most interesting part of the movie -- the relationship between her and Jason Bateman -- in that it introduced some palpable tension and raised questions about the nature of their attraction to each other.
I dunno, I liked this for the most part, but some of the dialogue and the indie-quirky aesthetic was pretty grating, to be sure.
― jaymc, Monday, 17 December 2007 20:12 (5 years ago) Permalink
i kind of want to see for michael cera alone, but it looks pretty annoying
― n/a, Monday, 17 December 2007 20:15 (5 years ago) Permalink
Michael Cera only has about a dozen lines.
― jaymc, Monday, 17 December 2007 20:23 (5 years ago) Permalink
(Like, I'm not really sure why he's second-billed.)
Same reason Brando is second-billed in Apocalypse Now.
Because he's hugely fat, lazy, unprepared, and argumentative.
― kenan, Monday, 17 December 2007 20:44 (5 years ago) Permalink
"Talk about the bloodlust."
Huh.
Also disappointed that Bateman and Cera never appear in the same scene, although J.K. Simmons uses the term "Pop-Pop" at one point.
― jaymc, Monday, 17 December 2007 20:45 (5 years ago) Permalink
Except she is, kind of
I mean I'm pretty sure she's not the screenwriter's jerkoff fantasy. Except the primarily non-sexual jerkoff fantasy of being a sassy independent quirk icon I guess. I thought the relationship btwn her and Batman was the most interesting thing too
― A B C, Monday, 17 December 2007 21:34 (5 years ago) Permalink
haha Batman
Does it really end with them singing a Moldy Peaches song to each other? Is Miranda July watching through the window Dawson style?
― da croupier, Monday, 17 December 2007 23:05 (5 years ago) Permalink
i got suckered into this unawares...
dialogue is so ridiculous this is destined to be b-movie cult fodder in 10-20 years (heathers, valley girl, etc.)
the girl (Juno) is okay but the guy (Bleeker) is pretty great! Dad and step mom are not bad either.
Should i feel scared that the Jason Bateman character reminded me a little too much of myself? Eek.
the Alias chick bugs. i have a feeling she wasn't acting and that's her true self. grody to the max.
― Steve Shasta, Monday, 17 December 2007 23:31 (5 years ago) Permalink
i really hate these kinds of movies.
― latebloomer, Monday, 17 December 2007 23:42 (5 years ago) Permalink
This isn't as much one of those kinds of movies.
― Eric H., Tuesday, 18 December 2007 04:31 (5 years ago) Permalink
Though the opening few minutes make it seem like it will the the MOST of those kinds of movies.
Michael Cera only has about a dozen lines.-- jaymc, Monday, December 17, 2007 8:23 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link(Like, I'm not really sure why he's second-billed.)-- jaymc, Monday, December 17, 2007 8:23 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
-- jaymc, Monday, December 17, 2007 8:23 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
18 Superbad Sony 21,463,226 3,069 $33,052,411 2,948 8/17/07 10/21/07
Yeah, that's baffling alright.
― Oilyrags, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 04:49 (5 years ago) Permalink
actually once i see this i might like it, i just hate having to feel like i should be seeing it since eveyrone is talking about
― latebloomer, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 04:52 (5 years ago) Permalink
it.
Saw this tonight, and really hated that just about every character in the film practically screamed "I AM SUCH A QUIRKY WITTY SCREENWRITER, AND BTW I HAVE AWESOME TASTE IN MUSIC". I had to sneak into another movie afterwards just to get the bad taste out of my mouth.
― Cosmo Vitelli, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 06:35 (5 years ago) Permalink
so Gilmore Girls: The Movie, basically?
― latebloomer, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 06:39 (5 years ago) Permalink
It's even got a Garden State scene where they replace The Shins with Sonic Youth covering the Carpenters. Your move, Zach Braff.
― Cosmo Vitelli, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 06:46 (5 years ago) Permalink
The thing is I'm not even sure what kind of movie Junebug was in the end - superficially it had some quirky indie signifiers but my reaction in the end was mostly just "huh?"
― Hurting 2, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 06:52 (5 years ago) Permalink
it was basically a music video.
― Steve Shasta, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 21:10 (5 years ago) Permalink
i liked this movie. it's very likeable. and funny.
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 21:10 (5 years ago) Permalink
Perpetua beat you to this.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 21:12 (5 years ago) Permalink
Roger Ebert is "backing" this one the way he did Crash, so I'm very afraid.
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 21:12 (5 years ago) Permalink
I'm not sure it deserves all the plaudits it's been getting, but there is something quite likeable about it once you get past all the "indie signifiers."
― jaymc, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 21:16 (5 years ago) Permalink
saw it last weekend, i enjoyed it. i definitely agree that the dialogue in the first 15 or 20 minutes was wayyy too much, and while the quirky dialogue is there to stay, the characters/story get rounded a bit more. overally i thought it was a cute indie flick. a bit over the top tweeness with a lot of the music, but i guess it worked with the film. a lot of self-consciously indie tropes used but the film had a decent aesthetic going on.
good performances all around, i thought. michael cera was awesome, even if he only had a few lines. i haven't seen arrested development, does he play pretty much the same role?
― Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 21:20 (5 years ago) Permalink
there is something quite likeable about it once you get past all the "indie signifiers."
exactly.
man any interest I had in this (mostly bc of Cera & Bateman) is rapidly draining away.
― will, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 21:20 (5 years ago) Permalink
Even besides all the indie sigs, besides the obnoxiously stylized dialog, the whole message of the film is srsly dubious.
― Cosmo Vitelli, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 21:27 (5 years ago) Permalink
If your teenage lover gets prego, don't sweat it, dude. With adoption, you can put blinders on, and after 9 kinda shitty (but kinda punkrock) months, she can forget about the whole thing too.
This film is an awesome sex ed tool.
― Cosmo Vitelli, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 21:31 (5 years ago) Permalink
my hangover's telling me not to see any movies made after 1978
― Andi Mags, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 21:42 (5 years ago) Permalink
Mostly OTM, although Janney, Batemen, and Garner are pretty good. They can act through a mouthful of moldy peaches.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 22 December 2007 20:38 (5 years ago) Permalink
This movie was too much like Ghost World, with Bateman playing Steve Buscemi in Gap clothes.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 22 December 2007 20:39 (5 years ago) Permalink
This movie was too much like Ghost World
I wish.
― Eric H., Saturday, 22 December 2007 21:31 (5 years ago) Permalink
I liked it. I thought it was sweet.
― Simon H., Sunday, 23 December 2007 00:47 (5 years ago) Permalink
i thought it was enjoyable too, though most negative comments here and elsewhere seem to center around the film's self-awareness and being too clever for its own good, which made me wonder: where is that line between clever and too-clever/in-love-with-its-own-cleverness, and how do you know when it has been crossed?
i suspect sincerity has a lot to do with it, and perhaps the film's first 15 minutes vs the rest of it is a good example of where that line is drawn. but again, i laughed at the first 15 minutes "despite" knowing how hard it was trying -- so does it really matter if it's not being "honest"?
― alex in montreal, Sunday, 23 December 2007 12:55 (5 years ago) Permalink
I didn't laugh at all. These things are subjective. I mean, it was unbearable for a whole fucking hour before Reitman let things breathe.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 23 December 2007 14:25 (5 years ago) Permalink
when was the last time a screenwriter did this much more publicity for a film than the director?
― da croupier, Sunday, 23 December 2007 15:55 (5 years ago) Permalink
i mean there are people like Charlie Kauffman who get press, but I don't think he went on TV with the star while Michel Gondry and Spike Jonze stayed at home.
If you ran a studio, would you support someone named "Jason Reitman" or "Diablo Cody"?
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 23 December 2007 16:02 (5 years ago) Permalink
saw this. bad movie. bad bad bad.
― homosexual II, Sunday, 23 December 2007 17:13 (5 years ago) Permalink
that was good casting, but i don't like him as a leading man
― horseshoe, Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
ohhh this guy was nite owl okay
― death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
Patrick Wilson was Nite Owl in "Watchmen" and the husband in "Insidious"
― HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
i get all these rugged gq types with highly defined jawlines mixed up all time
he's not rugged enough the planes of his face look like they've been sanded smooth
― horseshoe, Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
i get that uncanny valley thing looking at him
for a while i thought ryan reynolds got his start in an american pie movie or something
i've completely lost track of popular culture
― death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
patrick wilson is sort of a wiener. he weirds me out too horseshoe
― ＤＥＨＵＭＡＮＩＺＥ ＹＯＵＲＳＥＬＦ ＡＮＤ ＦＡＣＥ ＴＯ ＢＬＯＯＤＳＨＥＤ (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
actually i think 'goober' is the word i wanted to use there - hes tall and good looking but has an essential goobertude to him
― ＤＥＨＵＭＡＮＩＺＥ ＹＯＵＲＳＥＬＦ ＡＮＤ ＦＡＣＥ ＴＯ ＢＬＯＯＤＳＨＥＤ (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
yes!
― horseshoe, Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
when I saw ryan reynolds in the green lantern I was like oh look it's the two guys a girl and a pizza place dude
― duke of irl (Edward III), Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
he was on the nickelodeon canadian soap opera fifteen
― horseshoe, Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
I had to look him up but there's something strange about him. It might just be goobertude, yeah.
― (｡◕‿‿◕｡) (ENBB), Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
OMG FIFTEEN
He so was.
hahahahahahahahaha
I hated the insipid blonde girl on that show.
― (｡◕‿‿◕｡) (ENBB), Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
haha i forgot he was "van wilder"
― death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
he was also a ferret in a previous life
― HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
that blonde girl always looked so pained. she was on an episode of the x-files later...i think that was just her face! unfortunate.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
He's so good looking it's weird. Like he's too handsome. I don't know. There's something hot about flaws and I can't find any on him. He doesn't seem real. He's hot but in a creepy way imo. Too perfect.
― (｡◕‿‿◕｡) (ENBB), Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
tbh if I had to put up with Monk, I'd have that look on my face 24/7 too
― HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
So did I! I was so weirded out when I found out Ryan Reynolds was on Fifteen.
― online pinata store (Nicole), Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
I feel like her voice was also annoyingly soft and high. I might just be making things up now though.
― (｡◕‿‿◕｡) (ENBB), Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
you guys
there were 81 episodes of "Two Guys and a Girl"
wtf
― HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
the ryan reynolds wiki reminded me of my favorite wiki page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Living_people
― death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
― online pinata store (Nicole), Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
she was always whining. ashley. i preferred brooke, the evil one, played by a woman who was clearly in her 30s.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
A+ dancing
― online pinata store (Nicole), Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Possibly_living_people
hm
― HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
"The following 200 pages are in this category, out of 529,974 total."
if you are one of the 6.93 billion people not listed among the 529,974 in the "living people" category i am sorry to inform you that you're actually dead
― death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
Living people is a winner, yeah
― ＤＥＨＵＭＡＮＩＺＥ ＹＯＵＲＳＥＬＦ ＡＮＤ ＦＡＣＥ ＴＯ ＢＬＯＯＤＳＨＥＤ (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Undead_people
― HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
so where's the ilx convo about Young Adult?
― Mordy, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
was a thread maybe or at least some talk in the sandbox
did you like it?
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
I really want to see that :/
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
where the hell is tape store lately
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
i liked it. i mean, very alienating, and unapologetically bleak (esp the ending where there's a moment of self-awareness before total narcissism is reconstituted), but i laughed a lot and it made me feel so good about my life. not generally a feeling i get from art, but one i enjoyed here! (and that feeling makes me suspicious that this film is actually pretty reactionary, and maybe even misogynistic?)
― Mordy, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
huh now I want to see it even more
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
Just because I didn't expect the sort of thing you describe at all, I mean.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
it's pretty good. best movie by reitman or cody so far (i have a great distaste for reitman as a person but as a director he's getting better with every movie). i found some of the character beats unconvincing, but i admired its miserable tone, its willingness to be unfunny, and its resistance to a big this-person-is-changing-before-your-eyes character arc. theron gives the best and bravest performance of her career
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
diablo cody talked abt some tweaks it went through from script > screen on marc maron's wtf podcast & it was p illuminating
i didnt take it as reactionary or misogynistic but i can see how you could get there i guess
yah charlize is amazing as hell in it
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
I really like CT and I have heard only good things about her in this. That's the main reason I want to see it. Definitely wasn't because of Cody's involvement, that's for sure.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
cody really scaled it back, tbh. allowed a few scenes to speak for themselves without being punctuated by rapid-fire witty dialogue. and while there's still some of that cutesy talking in the movie, the quirkiness is mostly confined to things like a Teenage Fanclub song being an implicit plot point, or ppl wearing Pixies shirts + other cultural references (vinyl toys! home bourbon brewing!).
i also wonder what to think about the fact that Cheron's character (Mavin iirc) is always watching trashy reality shows ie Kardashians, Real Housewives, etc. i guess the implication is that she's as vapid as these shows but in my experience no one watches these shows without some level of ironic distance. you watch them to laugh at the characters, or to talk about how ridiculous it is.
― Mordy, Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
also, the film feels very judgmental about Mavis, but don't her actions strongly imply mental illness? for sure we are given strong indications of obsessive compulsion, alcoholism, psychopathy, possibly even psychosis? like she seems like a seriously unwell lady. we are given the scene where she tells her SOILERKINDA? parents that she thinks she might be an alcoholic, and the way they interact with her suggests that they've been ignoring what might have been a long history of mental illness. ENDSPOILER but then we're totally supposed to be repulsed by her, bc frankly she's repulsive, w/ very little space for empathy.
― Mordy, Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
like it's a pretty cruel film on a few levels (not even to go into the film's misanthropy towards the Patton Oswalt character which is pretty horrific and adds insult to injury literally)
― Mordy, Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
I like this more now when I think about it than I did when I first saw it. But I think I expected it to be funnier, and it was actually just kind of sad, yes.
― akm, Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
everyone upthread otm about Young Adult, I was really surprised a) how dark it was and b) how much I liked it. I thought it was pretty funny, but CT's character is basically a delusional alcoholic sociopath and doesn't really go through much in the way of redemption. kind of made me think of a more realistic version of a jody hill movie (eg foot-fist way) but with a female lead. patton oswalt got a lot of the hype but he was basically playing a sad version of patton oswalt, while CT was straight-up fantastic. favorite part was the dialogue between CT and patton oswalt's sister in the kitchen right at the end.
― congratulations (n/a), Sunday, 18 March 2012 12:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
by far my favorite Reitman film. There's some talk in the 2011 film detrius thread.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 March 2012 12:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
Just saw this. I didn't think it was spectacular, but it was surprisingly good. I disagree with the assertion that it was a cruel movie, though. I thought it handled Theron's character faily sympathetically. It was fairly sympathetic towards everyone, really, even if people weren't always shown in their best light. Agree that the tone was similar to something like a less OTT, more dramatic Eastbound and Down. I'm still thinking about it and remembering aspects that really worked well, which is a hell of a lot more than I can say for most recent movies.
― Arnold Drummond, Process Server (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
I kind of want to watch this again the more I realize that it has some thematic overlap with Carl Wilson's Let's Talk About Love 33 1/3 book (which is fantastic, btw, for those who weren't already aware). I'm generally fascinated with overblown repulsion towards cultural objects which are somehow perceived as threats to one's identity and the ways in which that repulsion tends to distort one's perception of The Other.
― One of my faverit moive ever!!!! XD (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm surprised by how much people seemed to like this on here. Just watched it and while I do think CT was great and I liked the fact that it was dark throughout, I didn't think it was that great overall. Aside from Mavis, a lot of the characters didn't work for me and it was just missing something. I feel like it was very close to being excellent but somehow just missed the mark although I'm not sure exactly where or how just yet.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Sunday, 1 April 2012 02:46 (1 year ago) Permalink