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ah I see so by altering the speed of light you can fit the bible's chronology into the lifespan of the universe. Makes perfect sense!

I like to think I have learnt a thing or two about music (Neil S), Friday, 8 November 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link

Creationist Barry Setterfield has proposed that the speed of light was faster in the past. [9] This idea initially found wide acceptance by creationists, but is now widely rejected, although some still hold to the idea.
One criticism of it by anticreationists was that if the speed of light had changed, we should see the difference in the Fine Structure Constant as measured by nearby stars versus distant stars, but this was not observed. Yet in 1999, John Webb, a professor at the University of New South Wales in Sydney, Australia, and his colleagues reported astronomical observations suggesting that the value of the fine-structure constant may indeed have changed. They subsequently published this in Physical Review Letters.[10][11] However, although this showed that mainstream scientists are open to new and controversial ideas, the methods Webb used were shown to contain simple flaws, which discredited the results. [12]. A later study of 23 absorption systems using the 'Very Large Telescope' found no measurable changes.[13].
These problems with the theory have led most creationists to drop the idea, although some credit it with stimulating further research.[14]. Systematic uncertainties are difficult to quantify and so Webb's results still need to be checked by independent analyses, using quasar spectra from different telescopes. Their efforts are ongoing, apparently by several different teams of scientists.

combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 8 November 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link

angels something something Jesus something something = speed of light not constant over time

I like to think I have learnt a thing or two about music (Neil S), Friday, 8 November 2013 14:48 (ten years ago) link

aww no it's mathsy and has some bearing on actual science, boooo

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6092-speed-of-light-may-have-changed-recently.html

. (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 November 2013 14:48 (ten years ago) link

hold onto your hat

One of the attacks concerned Einstein’s special relativity, E = mc2 and the like. (If c is a billion times greater in the past, then E would be a billion billion times greater, so would not a campfire be like an atom bomb, and so on?) Critics at the time used this to mock CDK, but Setterfield answered that rest mass itself is inversely proportional to c2, so that energy is still conserved. He also claimed that there is experimental evidence that the charge to mass ratio of an electron has been decreasing (supporting his claim that mass has increased as c2 has decreased). But as usual, the skeptics, along with ‘progressive creationist’ (long-age) astronomer and ardent ‘big bang’ advocate, Dr Hugh Ross,5 kept repeating this claim as if Setterfield hadn’t thought of this and answered it. Whether one agrees with his answer or not, it was improper to ignore it (or perhaps his critics, lacking any qualifications in physics, didn’t understand it).

combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 8 November 2013 14:52 (ten years ago) link

it's better than if it were strictly theological. it's truly terrible science by people who understand the basic principles but have to try to find a way to fit the basic principles into an existing non-scientific framework. it's just the best really

combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 8 November 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link

that New Scientist link appears to be a bit more credible i think, but my first not-very-physicsy thought is that this stuff cd be like pre-Copernican epicycles, a mathsy attempt to save some phenomena or something

. (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 November 2013 14:55 (ten years ago) link

the roman solider (?) is a weird choice to chop down the tree of evolution.

brand nubian wafers (bnw), Friday, 8 November 2013 14:58 (ten years ago) link

this is long but worth it

Randy S. from the United States writes in response to Dr John Hartnett’s book review Heretic challenges the giants!:

On to your reference #1:
1.”The starlight-travel-time problem could stilled be explained with a supernaturally imposed time dilation event on Day 4 of Creation Week when God created the Universe. I first suggested this … .”
However what you have failed to successfully explain is, 1) how our local system containing the miraculously created earth, Sun, and planets could possibly have been spared from complete vaporization caused by the enormous heat and harmful cosmic radiation generated by your Day 4 cosmic expansion event, and 2) how that event is anything short of a big bang in and of itself! (The question naturally arises: Why is ok for God to be involved in your big bang, but not the one standard cosmology asserts at the opening creation moment of everything?)
But Humphrey’s new model has the very same problem. The moment he mixes ‘timelessness’ and matter, he has conceded a big bang. Though he imagines a peaceful 13 billion year expansion, he has nonetheless postulated an enormous locally-if not cosmically-explosive situation.
By the way, is the creationist public fully aware that both your models contain the germ of vast eons of cosmic evolution, just like the standard big bang model? After all, you both assert the existence of galaxies, galaxy clusters, superclusters, and cosmic superstructures over 13 billion years old at the universe limits. Only our local system is truly 6000 years old to you.
Shaun Doyle responds:

It’s not a problem if God causes a time dilation event supernaturally. He is obviously going to take care of any natural consequences of any supernatural action he does because he supernaturally created the world to be inhabited (Isaiah 45:18). The difference between the Humphreys and Hartnett cosmologies and the orthodox big bang cosmology is that Humphreys and Hartnett base their understandings on a natural reading of Genesis 1 whereas the big bang doesn’t fit with the picture of Genesis 1 (See Christian apologists should abandon the big bang).

The earth is the obvious focal point for the creation account, so it’s a valid reference frame to use for the time indicators in Genesis 1. That doesn’t preclude time moving faster elsewhere in the universe. All those processes still truly took place during one day on Earth, regardless of how fast or slow they took place elsewhere.

But the so-called light-travel-time ‘problem’ is only a problem if creationists are constrained to explain Day 4 of the Creation Week naturalistically.

these are all from creation.com btw not conservapedia, though I got to the former via a link from the latter presented as support for a claim

combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 8 November 2013 14:59 (ten years ago) link

look guys, this is really quite simple

time is relative

therefore speed of light (distance travelled by light over TIME) is relative

now, we know from the BIBLE that adam and eve were the wellspring and source of all human life (AND THEY WEREN'T NO MONKEY'S HYUK HYUK)
and therefore all human life on earth since the garden of eden has been RELATED

it follows that since that TIME, LIGHT has been experienced on EARTH at a different SPEED than elsewhere in the UNIVERSE (because there was no RELATIVITY there)

midwife christless (darraghmac), Friday, 8 November 2013 15:08 (ten years ago) link

Speed Of Light

Fri Dec 28 05:28:27 GMT 2007 by Joshua Wilson

I loved this article - it confirms the message given to the prophet Rael in 1973 by our extra terrestrial creators, the Elohim!

Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Friday, 8 November 2013 16:17 (ten years ago) link

Chuck Norris endorses the Total Gym exercise system.[37]

― Matt Armstrong, 03 February 2011 23:32 (2 years ago)

another on the long list of products that i used to sell in my callcentre nightshift/college days- this one wasn't bad tho tbf

midwife christless (darraghmac), Friday, 8 November 2013 16:28 (ten years ago) link

Secret fat cats fund the left wing of the Republican Party and Karl Rove-founded groups, including massive checks as big as $22.5 million. [20] How much of the secret funding of Crossroads GPS is from pro-aborts?

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 22 November 2013 04:26 (ten years ago) link

39% is the new record low for Obama's approval rating. [47] And this time he can't release a phony birth certificate to halt the decline.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 22 November 2013 04:27 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

If Barack Obama ate less cheeseburgers and greasy fries and set a better example, perhaps less people in America would be sick. Doctors wonder why Obama sets such a bad example in his photo-ops.[22]

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 6 December 2013 05:35 (ten years ago) link

They're not even trying now, are they? Also, "fewer," godsdammit.

Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Friday, 6 December 2013 05:37 (ten years ago) link

Tim Tebow, a devout Christian dismissed by the media, led the Denver Broncos to the playoffs his first season as a starter, and was inexplicably traded to the New York Jets, who preferred to play "expert" quarterback Mark Sanchez, costing them the season and finishing a pathetic 6-10. Tebow was again rejected by the New England Patriots in favor of "expert" quarterback Tom Brady. The team performed poorly in the first quarter of the 2013 season, with Brady playing at a mediocre level of play.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 6 December 2013 05:38 (ten years ago) link

They didn't even source that last claim! I'm beginning to question the depth of research here.

Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Friday, 6 December 2013 05:45 (ten years ago) link

No one in the liberal media or anywhere else stopped the fake interpreter.--Aschlafly 11:38, 11 December 2013 (EST)

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 12 December 2013 05:48 (ten years ago) link

Liberals run the media and controlled the event. Some conservatives surely did notice, but conservatives had no authority over the telecast or the event. And some liberals may have noticed too, but they won't publicly say something that is politically incorrect or embarrassing to fellow liberals.--Aschlafly 12:16, 11 December 2013 (EST)

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 12 December 2013 05:48 (ten years ago) link

5. Sebastian Vettel - Beneath the nice guy exterior lies a deceitful, win at all costs person who thinks he is above following his F1 racing team orders.

love these guys

haim goin ham (King Boy Pato), Thursday, 12 December 2013 11:19 (ten years ago) link

--Aschlafly 12:16

wait, this is a verse from the Bible?

UK Cop Humour (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 12 December 2013 11:52 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

ABC's ratings fell 18% in its Christmas NBA game pitting a team of Overrated Sports Stars (the Lakers), rather than outspokenly Christian Kevin Durant, against the Miami Heat. [11] Durant's team routed their hapless opponent.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 29 December 2013 04:47 (ten years ago) link

how can I get Schlafly to blog about sports

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 29 December 2013 04:47 (ten years ago) link

The top scorer at the 2012 Olympics and the number 1 or 2 player in the NBA is ... only #4 in T-shirt sales. Why? Because Kevin Durant is outspokenly Christian, and the liberal media never promotes that. [47]

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 29 December 2013 04:48 (ten years ago) link

omg omg omg

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 29 December 2013 04:50 (ten years ago) link

The marquee Christmas NBA game is based on hype and expected audience -- that's the free market. Even though Kobe Bryant is nowhere near the best player in the NBA, he is overhyped as though he is. That's why he's in the Overrated Sports Stars. And Kobe Bryant was not better than Michael Jordan when Jordan played for the Wizards. If supercoach Phil Jackson were coaching the Wizards, Jordan would have won more titles there, too.--Andy Schlafly 10:47, 27 December 2013 (EST)

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 29 December 2013 04:50 (ten years ago) link

sorry, but i'm gonna have to post some screenshots of the Conservative of the Year 2013 nominees:

http://i.imgur.com/Wqd9lD2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/kTvDwxo.jpg

(right click and view in a new tab to see readable version)

Karl Malone, Sunday, 29 December 2013 05:04 (ten years ago) link

"Gives up millions of dollars rather than cave into liberal censorship..."

Dunno, sounds like a Communist who doesn't believe in the free market to me!

Matt Groening is MY Cousin (Leee), Sunday, 29 December 2013 05:38 (ten years ago) link

Is an admiration for Vladimir Putin common amongst US right wingers, or are Conservapedia outliers in this regard?

ferret is followed! (soref), Sunday, 29 December 2013 09:57 (ten years ago) link

It is picking up in the light of his 'family values' campaign. Anti interventionist right liked his stance on Syria and anti immigration ones appreciate the brutality of the Russian border ppl / police as well.

Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Sunday, 29 December 2013 13:10 (ten years ago) link

LOL @ Meat Loaf

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 29 December 2013 19:01 (ten years ago) link

Saw Scott Walker on the list and wondered for a sec what made Bish Bosch worthy of Conservapedia praise.

bizarro gazzara, Sunday, 29 December 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link

A simple google search shows that the term "media bullying" was already in use before Conservapedia purportedly coined it. Onestone 09:48, 10 March 2013 (EDT)

Were prior uses elsewhere of the term "media bullying" in the same rich meaning as the usage here?--Andy Schlafly 10:24, 10 March 2013 (EDT)

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 30 December 2013 03:10 (ten years ago) link

oh, Andy

mh, Monday, 30 December 2013 03:41 (ten years ago) link

Andy seems to be trolling. #proud

Matt Groening is MY Cousin (Leee), Monday, 30 December 2013 04:58 (ten years ago) link

how the hell could you possibly tell

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 30 December 2013 04:59 (ten years ago) link

Andy is Poe's Law incarnate

zanarkand bozo (abanana), Monday, 30 December 2013 05:32 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

Homosexual teen boys are 6 times more likely to use steroids.[8] 52% of homosexual youth report self-harming: UK study.[9]

Is it any surprise that Sage Kotsenburg, a heterosexual man born in Republican flyover state of Idaho, won the first Olympic gold?

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 10 February 2014 23:05 (ten years ago) link

Chuck Norris praises Sage Kotsenburg, the first gold winner at the Olympics, for his risk-taking snowboarding performance.[7] Unshakeable proof that Kotsenburg is a conservative and not a liberal?

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 12 February 2014 03:28 (ten years ago) link

http://conservapedia.com/Washington%27s_Birthday

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 04:25 (ten years ago) link

Big corporations have never been friendly to the conservative movement. Except for the union issue, big corporations tend to support liberals.--Andy Schlafly 00:54, 16 January 2013 (EST)

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 07:55 (ten years ago) link

this guy sounds like he needs to go hug some rattlesnakes tbh

rhyme heals all goons (m bison), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 12:36 (ten years ago) link

An American wife, mother, and heterosexual recounts the sacrifices she made to win a medal at the Olympics.[11] Needless to say, dessert scarfing, obese lesbians didn't win a lot of medals at the Olympics this year. See: Lesbianism and obesity

JoeStork, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 19:12 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://conservapedia.com/Category:Lunatics

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 06:08 (ten years ago) link

the wachowskis wtf

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 11:50 (ten years ago) link

There's a kind of perversely unintentional even-handedness in treating Lana's name with the same douchey scare-quotes as Andy's contracted name- I was expecting some kind of anti-trans screed.

"Leo K. O'Drudy, III also deduced that the Matrix films were likely to be Marxist propaganda."

Not THE Leo K. O'Drudy, III?

CAROUSEL! CAROUSEL! (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 21:31 (ten years ago) link

Michel Foucault WROTE about lunatics, oh lunatics of conservapedia

Angkor Waht (Neil S), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 21:40 (ten years ago) link

three months pass...

When a president who is a Democrat is mocked by a late night comic, it's over.[6]

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 05:58 (nine years ago) link


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