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Neti pot - classic or IN-FUCKING-SANE!

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I have pretty serious hayfever a lot of the time, but I dunno...

http://www.thegreenhead.com/2006/11/neti-pot-nasal-passage-cleanser.php

"Try using 1/3 urine for even better results."


!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― Oilyrags, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

That urine comment is probably from some yoga chick - they're bonkers. One girl I knew used to drink her own urine for breakfast every morning.

But neti pot - classic. I have one (I just use boring old saline solution in it, not wee) and it's brilliant for damping down the symptoms of hay fever.

― C J, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

Looks good to me, I might try one next time I get the flu.

― Ed, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

especially if they make pseudo-ephedrine prescription only.

― Ed, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I've been using one for about a year (saline buffered with baking soda and I put some xylitol in too for the antibacterial props) and it helps so much. I'm still amazed how much it clears my eyes and ears (which itch like crazy from allergies). Last time I flew home though, the TSA searched my suitcase with the end result being 10 ozs of salt EVERYWHERE. :((((((

― Jaq, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

So (assuming you can't just find a friend or co-worker willing to piss up your nose) how do you go about it without, you know, drowning? Do you just go one direction, or is it a good idea to do one rinse each way? Every day or just when mold or whatever counts are high? Would it let an dander-sensitive person keep pets? Etc.

― Oilyrags, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

Now where did I leave that video?


(yeah, I have a sinus-cleaning thing with salty water too, vv nice but not vv nice to look at me using it, I suppose. I wonder if a blowjob would help. And if my theoretical future girlfriend would like to know as well)

― StanM, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

Stan, I like you. I really do. I think you sound funny and charming, and it makes me sad to think you don't have a girlfriend - so much so, that on occasion I have found myself idly wondering if I might have any single girl friends to matchmake you with. But now I read that you are the sort of bloke who wants his girlfriend to give him blowjobs (presumably while she is hunched underneath your bathroom sink) as you flush out muck from your sinuses, so I'm afraid I'm going to have to reconsider this whole idea.

― C J, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

Oilyrags, as a person who hates swimming due to water up nose and in ears issues, I wondered how the hell and would it be like drowning and give me a panic attack from that claustrophobic feeling of the inside of your head being full of alien stuff. And, if the water's not warm enough, or if I leave out the baking soda, it does give some of that not terribly pleasant "laughed diet coke out my nose" feeling. But on the whole, I've been surprised at how all the passageways inside my head are connected and how it doesn't feel like drowning if you keep your head turned to the side and your chin tucked in.

I try to do both sides but I'm not very good at estimating when 1/2 has been poured through. Sometimes I pour a full one through one side then mix up a fresh batch and run it through the other. I think it's a good idea to practice for a week or so when you're not all stuffed up. When I'm home in Seattle, I can skip a day, but when I've been working down in dry dusty California, I use it twice a day. When I had a nasty cold this winter and was seriously stuffed up, the heat and saline were more soothing than I expected and made an obvious difference in my ability to breathe.

I don't know about dander sensitivity and pets though. It might matter how seriously the person reacts.

― Jaq, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

I have twice tried irrigating my sinuses with similar devices, and ... umm, unless you are really okay with weird and uncomfortable things happening to your body, be careful. You're not gonna drown, or anything, but you may spark off pain, severe pressure, bizarro post-nasal drip, general "OMG IT'S IN MY BRAIN" feelings, or something like that post-swimming thing where water's caught in your ear, except now it's IN YOUR FACE.

― nabisco, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

And StanM, that is really sort of a worrying image.

― Jaq, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

Only a lamestain would pour wee up their nose.

― braveclub, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

I think that irrigator that hooks up to a Waterpik sounds like a scary painful proposition. Do not want pulsing, pressurized saline squirting up nose; gently flowing via gravity stream is okay though.

― Jaq, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

I would end up drowning or killing myself in some weird way if I tried to use one, I just know it.

― Nicole, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

Naw, I think the worst airflow blockage you could achieve here is winding up gagging on a pile of sinus-sewage that went down your throat. Though I suppose that could set off a chain reaction of coughing / choking / spewing that led to asphyxiation / head exploding / barf shooting out your ears and/or eyes / etc. It's a delicate system of tunnels up in our faces, we should be careful about futzing with them.

― nabisco, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

perhaps make sure you are not alone when using this for the first time?

― Ms Misery, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

Eh, mostly one of two things will happen: (a) it goes up your nose and comes out fine, or (b) it starts to go up your nose and you're like "OMG AWFUL MAKE IT STOP" and you sneeze a couple times and everything's cool.

― nabisco, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

i use a neti pot everyday with kosher salt

an alternative to allergies/hay fever is to put ALKALOL into the pot, shit is magic

neti pot also good for cocaine habit

― cutty, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

alternative FOR allergies/hay fever

― cutty, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

So, this is before you shower, I guess?

― Oilyrags, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

for me was part of a few easy steps to get rid of what would have probably been lifelong sinus disease complete with unecessary surgeries. so VERY CLASSIC! altho if you are really fucked up and swollen you really need a squeeze bottle instead of this netipot thing. Kaiser Permanente used to sell these along with the appropriate buffered salt solution (don't use water) and even tho you're not supposed to force water into your nose, this is what i had to do b/c of the blockage - jsut go slow/be careful. the water would come out my mouth then and not the other usually completely blocked nostril. i also used an herbal solution that broke up phlegm at one point when the water was not enough esp if things were blocked and i coudl not get a good stream going. its very mechancial but really you don't need much more than a good drainage system and a decently working immune system to fight off a sinus infection the right way. by contrast, antibiotics really seemed ineffectual and maybe detrimental long term for me. wrt allergies, i also think it is a good bet along with probably allergies shots.

― SusanD, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

can't type today -- i mean "allergy shots"

― SusanD, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

So, this is before you shower, I guess?

The first time I tried it, I thought it'd get all over the place so stood in the shower. But it doesn't really. I just lean over the sink, generally before brushing my teeth.

― Jaq, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

I also heard about lying with your head back off the edge of the bed and using a squirt bottle to fill up both sides of your nose and letting it soak a bit, then rolling sideways with your nose aimed at a towel. But that seems, I don't know, extreme.

― Jaq, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

I like the other things they have advertised on that page:





― Abbott, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

Also, you gotta feel for the model.



"I knew this career couldn't be as glamorous as it seemed."

― Oilyrags, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

OMG I just remembered I posted on this thread and I missed all of this ROFLage!

― StanM, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

Maybe I meant if she blew hard enough my sinuses would unblock by themselves?

Or is it too late to salvage any credib... it's too late, isn't it? :-(

― StanM, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

Reese Witherspoon must be regretting those early Neti pot advertising sessions.

― Mark C, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

Neti pots are all sorts of great. You just have to remember to breathe through your mouth to avoid the "OMG I'M DROWING!" feeling.

My hippie doctor told me to stay away from them when you think it's a sinus infection goin' on up there, as it can spread the badness from one side of your sinus passages to the other.

I'm a big fan of Xlear Nasal Spray. It's got Xylitol in it, with saline solution. Xylitol is some sort of sugar, and one can mix with saline solution themselves for a fraction of the price.

― molly mummenschanz, Saturday, 28 April 2007 04:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

Oh Stanpaws ;P

― Trayce, Saturday, 28 April 2007 04:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

i got no neti pot, but the saline spray bottle approach has worked well. and you don't even really need that. you can just make a mug of warm salt water and basically inhale it and get mostly the same effect. useful for fending off sinus infections. i reckon it works on about the same principles as a salt-water gargle.

― tipsy mothra, Sunday, 29 April 2007 08:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

I assume Ronan knows about this?

― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 29 April 2007 12:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

does ronan do a lot of blow?

― cutty, Sunday, 29 April 2007 14:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

btw, the saline spray approach is all fine and good, but if you plan on using something like that everyday (let's say morning and night) it's really going to add up.

getting a neti pot is the cheapest way to actually make nasal irrigation a part of your daily life.

thank you.

― cutty, Sunday, 29 April 2007 14:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

goddammit, you fuckers are gonna trick me into doing this aren't you?
Alright, where would I go to get one of these?

― forksclovetofu, Sunday, 29 April 2007 14:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

whole foods

― cutty, Sunday, 29 April 2007 14:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

health food store

― cutty, Sunday, 29 April 2007 14:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

the internet

― cutty, Sunday, 29 April 2007 14:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

Ugh, the main picture looks like something off a really wierd porn site.

― chap, Sunday, 29 April 2007 15:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

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― StanM, Sunday, 29 April 2007 17:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

roffle at 9" sinus

― cutty, Sunday, 29 April 2007 18:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

this thread = ewww + lol

― artdamages, Sunday, 29 April 2007 18:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

may spark off pain, severe pressure, bizarro post-nasal drip, general "OMG IT'S IN MY BRAIN" feeling

man i love that shit

― emsk, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

I totally need one of these after a weekend chasing dust bunnies.

― Ed, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

Okay, at this point I'll try anything
ALLERGY HELL

― forksclovetofu, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

just bought one. I hope you're all happy.
I also bought a tongue scraper because it was on sale.

― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 02:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

now to seek some alkaLOL. you really can't just use water in this thing, huh?

― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 03:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

either use neti pot salt or kosher salt if you can't find alkalol--that shit should be at any drug store, though

― cutty, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 03:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

i just tipped my head back in the shower

― river wolf, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 03:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

If you just use water, it will sting and probably paralyze all those little waving hairs for awhile. It needs the salt to make the solution isotonic and soothing and a little baking soda (1/2 the amount of salt) buffers it and also works better to thin mucus. Also, make sure it's warm. Gives me a headache if it's too cool.

― Jaq, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 04:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

This made A MASSIVE DIFFERENCE.
Sold forever.

― forksclovetofu, Saturday, 26 May 2007 22:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

When you are ready to get serious:

― Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 26 May 2007 22:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

"Pots, bulbs, other methods might "clean" your nose, sort of - but they're messy, difficult to use, and do not pulsate."

― forksclovetofu, Saturday, 26 May 2007 23:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

Actually, if the neti pot works for you, I'm all for it. I should buy one and give it a try. I can see the argument in favor of it being gentler but I'm still a believer in pulsatile irrigation. (I don't like the fact that those tips snap off kind of easily on Grossan's own model, but Waterpiks--and I've gone through a bunch--tend to have serious flaws as well.)

― Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 27 May 2007 00:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

Too hardcore for me. But again, the pot is fuckin' awesome. Totally helping.

― forksclovetofu, Sunday, 27 May 2007 01:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Today, after a particularly grueling week of hayfever symptoms, I went and got myself a neti pot, and have just completed my first nasal irrigation. It wasn't difficult or painful, just kind of gross, but I'm breathing really clearly right now, and I think it was probably worth it.

― Oilyrags, Monday, 10 September 2007 01:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

My friend from years ago got hold of me through myspace. His headline was "NETI POTTING IT UP!"

― Abbott, Monday, 10 September 2007 02:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Did you use 1/3 urine, oily?

― Mark C, Monday, 10 September 2007 10:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

From the original post: don't let your girlfriend water the plants if she's blond fellas!

― Heave Ho, Monday, 10 September 2007 11:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

I used 0% urine. Lukewarm water and 1.2 tsp seasalt only.

I'll double the amount of urine tomorrow, and continue to do so until I find the right balance.

― Oilyrags, Monday, 10 September 2007 13:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sorry, 1/2 tsp sea salt.

― Oilyrags, Monday, 10 September 2007 13:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

<a href=http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2007_09_10.html#013993>;Mark Evanier and Sergio Aragones to write "The Spirit."</a>

Thought I'd be dropping the book after Cooke bailed, but so much for that...

― Oilyrags, Monday, 10 September 2007 13:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Okay, that belongs in another thread, on a completely different forum with different posting code. Although who knows? If P'Gell had tried nasal irrigation, maybe she wouldn't have been such a cruel temptress?

― Oilyrags, Monday, 10 September 2007 13:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

My irrigation unit is such a hassle to clean, not to mention various problems with it (like the fact that the on/off switch stopped working not long after I bought it and I have been turning it on by plugging it in, and turning it off by unplugging it--just asking for an electric shock), I've decided to try the neti pot. Just bought a nice ceramic one from the co-op I go to. This was my latest irrigation unit model:

Pretty much the cadillac of nasal irrigation units, and still not very well made.

― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 22 May 2010 22:36 (3 months ago) Permalink

As far as urine, Albuquerque's leading exponent of urine-drinking, and one of its best-known eccentrics has this to say:

http://alibi.com/index.php?scn=blog&story=14763&fullstory=y

― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 22 May 2010 22:41 (3 months ago) Permalink


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