The Warren Oates thread

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Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 23:32 (seventeen years ago) link

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Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 23:33 (seventeen years ago) link

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Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 23:33 (seventeen years ago) link

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Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 23:34 (seventeen years ago) link

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Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 23:35 (seventeen years ago) link

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Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 23:36 (seventeen years ago) link

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Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 23:38 (seventeen years ago) link

"If I'm not grounded pretty soon, I'm gonna go into orbit"

his delivery of that line has come back to haunt me almost too many times

Milton Parker, Thursday, 15 March 2007 23:45 (seventeen years ago) link

From this interview

I understand there were scenes that were cut out.

One scene where he cut the guy's throat: the special effects department rigged a knife that would cut the guy's throat. Fuckin' blood spurted from here to the fuckin' street. And for a joke, Sam printed it. Scared the shit out of everybody who saw the dailies. But it was just a malfunction of the pumping apparatus.

Sam turned the face of the Western around when he made The Wild Bunch. It shocked the hell out of a lot of [with a wide grin] moralistic weirdo pinko liberals. I remember we were down in Nassau, where Warner Brothers had a festival. The Wild Bunch was being shown. The ladies-all these critics and people who'd flown in there for this event-half of them booed and stormed and screeched and shouted when The Wild Bunch was on. It pissed Sam off something fierce; he got up and yelled at them, or whatever he did. Essentially, his innocence, his perfection, his attitude toward films and what makes them exciting, got a negative vote that day from all these people. And I think that hurt him deeply. It pissed him off, and it frustrated him. But the high quality of the film stands out today.

It's gained a cult following.

All over the world. Every place I've been. In France, the film is shown in one theater every Saturday night at twelve o'clock, and it's been playing there I don't know how many years- five, six, seven, eight years. It's been playing there for fuckin' eight years. And the French- I'm not talking about the working man; I'm taling about the intellectual-are very fond of that film. They see things in it about loyalty, and the dignity of man, and togetherness, and government; they see things in it that I don't really know if I understand, because I'm not that acquainted with French culture. But the French love it, and the English, and the Germans, the Italians- everywhere I've been. Except Sweden. But they're a bunch of weirdo pinko liberals, too.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 23:51 (seventeen years ago) link

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Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 23:52 (seventeen years ago) link

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Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 23:52 (seventeen years ago) link

What did you think was your most satisfying performance for Peckinpah?

I think Alfredo Garcia, for my role. I'm not going to comment on the picture, but my role was it. It was a very unusual character to get to play. There were some things that didn't jibe, maybe, in there, but as far as my personal gratification, I got more out of Alfredo Garcia. But as a human being I get more out of The Wild Bunch.

Of course, your part in Alfredo Garcia was bigger.

Yes, well, it had a beginning, a middle, and an end: it started at the beginning of the picture, and ended at the end of the picture. A lot of my roles start somewhere else. But it was the emotional life of the character, really, because I tried to say it all: what I knew about Sam and his love for Mexico. I really tried to do Sam Peckinpah: as much as I knew about him, his mannerisms, and everything he did. I've had infinite opportunities to study him, so...usually, when you work for a director, if he's a very impressive person, you kind of steal from him anyhow, if he's an animated fellow with a passion, like Sam has. Billy Friedkin is the same way: he has this intensity, and thoroughness, and demands perfection, yet he's very gentle. Both were very gentle with me as an actor. But Sam's had a big influence on my life. God knows, everywhere I go, he's praised and condemned. I get a lot of questions about that. I don't think he's a horrible maniac; it's just that he injures your innocence, and and you get pissed off about it.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 23:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Alfredo Garcia was his best performance; it made the most of his limitations (boozy grizzled moroseness). But he's one of those actors so full of juice that you don't care.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 16 March 2007 00:24 (seventeen years ago) link

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walterkranz, Friday, 16 March 2007 00:42 (seventeen years ago) link

best thread ever

get bent, Friday, 16 March 2007 00:51 (seventeen years ago) link

That mugshot with the pencil mustache is fantastic. Where did it come from?

Oilyrags, Friday, 16 March 2007 01:54 (seventeen years ago) link

John Waters' lost weekend.

walterkranz, Friday, 16 March 2007 01:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Haw.

Oilyrags, Friday, 16 March 2007 01:58 (seventeen years ago) link

only man i'd go gay for

gershy, Friday, 16 March 2007 02:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Necrophiliac gay even. A major step.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 March 2007 02:51 (seventeen years ago) link

yes, genius - we know he's dead

gershy, Friday, 16 March 2007 03:18 (seventeen years ago) link

# The Warren Oates thread [Started by Elvis Telecom, last updated 4 minutes ago] 21 new answers
# so not gonna happen [Started by RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), last updated 5 minutes ago] 6 new answers

get bent, Friday, 16 March 2007 03:24 (seventeen years ago) link

For quite a long time I thought Two Lane Blacktop starred James Taylor, Dennis Wilson and the guy from Hall and Oates.

walterkranz, Friday, 16 March 2007 03:28 (seventeen years ago) link

yes, genius - we know he's dead


"I just want you to know, we dug him up, Warren Oates, and fucked him. His skeleton."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 March 2007 03:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Did you have a conversation with the flies that encircled his corpse?

walterkranz, Friday, 16 March 2007 03:34 (seventeen years ago) link

For quite a long time I thought Two Lane Blacktop starred James Taylor, Dennis Wilson and the guy from Hall and Oates.

and here i thought it was

http://www.ohiou.edu/theohioreview/Oates.JPEG

get bent, Friday, 16 March 2007 04:01 (seventeen years ago) link

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gershy, Friday, 16 March 2007 04:11 (seventeen years ago) link

The Warren Olney Thread

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get bent, Friday, 16 March 2007 04:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Four Eyed Black Top

gershy, Friday, 16 March 2007 04:29 (seventeen years ago) link

That mugshot with the pencil mustache is fantastic. Where did it come from?


It's from the 1973 version of Dillinger

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoah, I like the look of that cast! And Milius is...okay, as a director he's kinda shit. But still.

Oilyrags, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

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Your mamas aren't here to take care of you.

kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...

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gershy, Friday, 15 June 2007 06:01 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2009/may/17/1

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 03:00 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Wild Oates: A Conversation With Warren Oates' Biographer:
http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2009/07/wild-oates-a-conversation-with-warren-oates-biographer.html

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 18:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Oates as Dillinger is one of the main reasons I couldn't give a toss about the new Michael Mann flick.

Milijas now living will never die (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link

For once I agree with you. I gotta pick up this book tonight.

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Watching Stripes on AMC right now

Sergeant Hulka: When I tell you move, you'll move fast. When I tell you to jump, you're gonna say, "How high?" And make no mistake. I don't care where you come from, I don't care what color you are, I don't care how smart you are, I don't care how dumb you are, 'cause I'm gonna teach every last one of you how to eat, sleep, walk, talk, shoot, shit like a United States soldier. Understand?

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 06:07 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

fate saved him from appearances in Tarantino movies

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 January 2010 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

caught him in a Twilight Zone episode ("The 7th is Made of Phantoms" iirc?) over Xmas. what a face.

assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 January 2011 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

can't forget this one either

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOWpr6YOKYw

i would just like to point out that i have been orange & teal itt (Edward III), Thursday, 6 January 2011 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Watching 92 In The Shade on netflix instant. Oates liquored up and violent.

Handjobs for a sport (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 21 April 2011 23:57 (twelve years ago) link

Oates eats apple, looks in camera as if to say, "Why am I doing this?"

Handjobs for a sport (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 22 April 2011 00:28 (twelve years ago) link

Burgess Meredith is talking about whores.

Handjobs for a sport (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 22 April 2011 00:41 (twelve years ago) link

Braless Margot Kidder and Mini-skirted Elizabeth Ashley are having a catfight.

Handjobs for a sport (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 22 April 2011 01:00 (twelve years ago) link

So many visible boom mics.

Handjobs for a sport (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 22 April 2011 01:10 (twelve years ago) link

Climatic freezeframe.

Handjobs for a sport (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 22 April 2011 01:25 (twelve years ago) link

fate saved him from appearances in Tarantino movies
--Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius)

Hilarious

under the pollcano (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 April 2011 01:25 (twelve years ago) link

Only Warren Oates could consistently deliver simple lines like "we ate the food she prepared with her hands" (f/ Alfredo Garcia) and give them so much heft. Everything that came out of his mouth was gold.

Sanford, Friday, 22 April 2011 05:58 (twelve years ago) link

Just got done with Dillinger--how great is the phone scene between W.O. & Ben Johnson's Melvin Purvis? (Of course you could ask the same about numerous others scenes in the flick as well.)

I've got a P.D. disc of Cockfighter to watch later, so it appears my holiday will be dominated by Oates & Harry Dean Stanton.

Handjobs for a sport (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 22 April 2011 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

ten months pass...

sam neill 'random roles' recollection on the AV Club:

Sleeping Dogs (1977)—“Smith”

SN: Wow. You see, that was my first feature film of all, with my friend Roger Donaldson, and there I really had no idea what I was doing. [Laughs.] In fact, none of us did. Apart from Michael Seresin, who shot it, no one on that production had ever made a feature film before. In fact, there hadn’t been a feature film made in New Zealand for something like 17 years. So we were really… We lit a little candle, which didn’t illuminate much of the darkness in front of us, but we got through it. It’s a very uneven film, and I’m pretty uneven in it. [Laughs.]

Oh, actually, the other person on the film who had any experience was, of course, the wonderful Warren Oates. He came in for about two weeks, I think, and… [Laughs.] He discovered on day one, I think, that in the area of New Zealand where we were working, they grow the best marijuana, and so he was basically smoking joints all day. In some of the scenes where he’s playing Col. Willoughby, a U.S. army advisor in New Zealand, he’s addressing his men with his hands behind his back, and you might even possibly detect the little curving smoke behind his right shoulder, because he wouldn’t even put the joint aside when the camera was rolling. He just put it behind his back!

But Warren was a lovely guy, and when he left—I’ll never forget this, actually: He shook my hand, and he said, “Goodbye, Sam! I’ll see you in the movies!” It was such a surprising thing for him to say, but I was very touched by it. I never saw him again, because he died rather young not very long after that. But he lived hard, you know. And he had some great stories of the madness of working with Sam Peckinpah.

omar little, Friday, 2 March 2012 07:07 (twelve years ago) link

warren oates was a poet. no, really, he wrote poetry but was too shy to try to publish it apparently.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 2 March 2012 08:36 (twelve years ago) link

warren oates owned

RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 2 March 2012 08:40 (twelve years ago) link

three years pass...

Not only had I forgotten that he was terrific in his first significant lead role in The Shooting, I had forgotten he was in it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep8hLLcnxOE

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 15:43 (eight years ago) link

!

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 18:26 (eight years ago) link

also great in unusual western (directed by peter fonda) "the hired hand"

drash, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 18:38 (eight years ago) link

i didn't know he was in that one, which i really ought to see.

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 18:41 (eight years ago) link

Rescreened Dillinger last week--Much Oates ownage there.

Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

finally saw Dillinger, nice 35mm print; too bad Milius wrote it, especially, as well as directed. He seems to lose interest in Oates in the third act, preferring to give scenes to Harry Dean Stanton, Richard Dreyfuss, Cloris Leachman (and to Ben Johnson's Purvis throughout). I wonder if maybe they didn't get along.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 July 2015 16:29 (eight years ago) link

i agree w/ Grisso, the phone scene is great.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 July 2015 16:30 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

yep

it's good, but Corey Allen has the juicier, creepier part

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 August 2016 20:51 (seven years ago) link

Really enjoyed him in the Shooting a few weeks ago

Οὖτις, Friday, 19 August 2016 20:59 (seven years ago) link

(Oates that is)

Οὖτις, Friday, 19 August 2016 20:59 (seven years ago) link

yep

it's good, but Corey Allen has the juicier, creepier part

― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 August 2016 20:51 (Yesterday) Permalink

it's one of oates's dim-witted cretin parts. he did a lot of those in the 1960s (TV and film).

everyone should see personal property, it's astonishingly unwholesome.

wizzz! (amateurist), Saturday, 20 August 2016 03:27 (seven years ago) link

Someone reissued 92 in the Shade this summer. I've been waiting forever to see that.

clemenza, Sunday, 28 August 2016 04:46 (seven years ago) link

It's...sorta good...in a bad way.

a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 28 August 2016 05:28 (seven years ago) link

I'll probably hold off until a cheaper used copy shows up on the Canadian Amazon. There's this infuriating practice in place where everything on amazon.ca is twice as expensive as the American version (and just as or more expensive if you try to circumvent that by ordering from amazon.com).

clemenza, Sunday, 28 August 2016 18:51 (seven years ago) link


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