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You ever seen these?

Rightwing outfit Regnery Publishing has an entire series of "politically incorrect guides," featuring such titles as:

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Did you know...most textbooks on evolution are written by Darwinists with an ideological ax to grind? And scientists who try to teach about intelligent design are silenced?

or!

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Bet your feminist teacher never told you:

* Women’s lib has “liberated” men from having to commit, “freed” women from marriage, and often “unshackled” women from having a family.
* More than ever, women in their twenties and thirties live alone, are discarded by boyfriends after “living together,” and are watching their biological clocks tick past the point of no return.
* Women still prefer men who are breadwinners and can protect them physically.

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Bet your teacher never told you:

* Muhammad did not teach “peace and tolerance”—he led armies and ordered the assassination of his enemies
* The Qur’an commands Muslims to make war on Jews and Christians
* The much-ballyhooed “Golden Age” of Islamic culture was largely inspired by non-Muslims
* What is known today as the “Islamic world” was created by a series of brutal conquests of non-Muslim lands
* The Crusades were not acts of unprovoked aggression by Europe against the Islamic world, but a delayed response to centuries of Muslim aggression
* The jihad continues today: Europe could be Islamic by the end of the twenty-first century
* Ex-Muslims must live in fear even in the United States

So, with those in mind, some folks are making suggestions of new guides to add to the pantheon.

kingfish high command (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 28 August 2006 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I made one:

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polyphonic (polyphonic), Monday, 28 August 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

haha, description of "the politically incorrect guide to american history":

Not PC, but all true:

How colonial quarrels give birth to American religious freedom
PC myth demolished: the Puritans -- racists? Not quite
No, the Puritans didn’t steal Indian lands
Why self-government is non-negotiable
How the American Revolution was not like the French Revolution, with which Leftists love to equate it
Why “providing for the general welfare” doesn’t mean that the federal government gets to spend money on whatever it wants
The forgotten secret of the First Amendment to the Constitution: how states tell the federal government what it’s allowed to do — not the other way around
The cardinal importance of the Constitution’s Ninth and Tenth Amendments: Just because it’s not in the Bill of Rights doesn’t mean it’s not a right — and whatever the states didn’t let the feds do was left to the states
The tiny, easily overlooked clause in the Constitution that proved to be the source of the unhindered growth of big government
Did the states have the right to secede from the Union? A frank examination of the evidence
Was the war fought to free slaves? How the Civil War was more about other issues than about slavery
Reality check: Lincoln’s views on race
Why the soldiers fought: the Civil War, in the soldiers’ own words
The Fourteenth Amendment and states’ rights: the truth about this much-misunderstood Amendment
How government promoted waste and corruption in railroad construction
How “fairness” crippled American farmers in the late nineteenth century
Why government is itself the true source of monopoly
Antitrust idiocy: Should antitrust laws be repealed?
World War I: why Woodrow Wilson favored war
The post-World War I peace conference: The disaster Wilson pretended not to notice
How Woodrow Wilson’s much-heralded “idealism” paved the way for World War II
The long forgotten truth about the Roaring Twenties
Herbert Hoover: A “do-nothing” president? If only he had been!
How the Left in the 1930s cravenly presented the “Soviet experiment” as a model for America
The New York Times reporter who had full knowledge of Stalin’s crimes but covered them up
The lunacy of New Deal policies: let’s help starving people by destroying food!
How FDR’s anti-business zealotry delayed America’s recovery from the Great Depression
World War II: did it lift America out of the Depression?
FDR’s imperial presidency: did the architect of the New Deal break the law?
How FDR got Americans into World War II — and may have made war with Japan inevitable
FDR and Uncle Joe: the full story of just how friendly President Roosevelt was toward Stalin
The Cold War: Yes, Soviet spies were a problem in America — contrary to Leftist myth
Joe McCarthy: a paranoid idiot? No: the facts about this much maligned figure
A shameful and forgotten episode: American Presidents send a million Russians back to Stalin
The Marshall Plan: a great success or another failed giveaway program?
How President Truman disregarded the Constitution
Who was the real John F. Kennedy? Straight talk about a figure who has been elevated to mythic status by the Left
How Chicago mobster Sam Giancana bankrolled JFK’s campaign in return for promises that Kennedy would help his mob dodge federal investigations
Lyndon Johnson: his terrible legacy of failure
How the liberalism of the 1960s discouraged all the right things and encouraged all the wrong ones
Ronald Reagan: how he differed from all other modern presidents
“Decade of Greed”? How charitable giving grew 55 percent faster during the 1980s than it had grown over the previous 25 years
How Bill Clinton abused power, abetted Islamists, lied, and wasted billions of taxpayer dollars for nothing
Affirmative Action lunacy: how, on Clinton’s watch, special permission was needed at the Pentagon for the promotion of all white men without disabilities

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 28 August 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

FDR was a socialist, honest abe was a dictator, joe mccarthy was a hero, ronald reagan is god - sounds about par for the course.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 28 August 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

* What is known today as the “Islamic world” was created by a series of brutal conquests of non-Muslim lands

Okay, sorry, a dozen tries later and I still can't come up with an appropriately sarcastic or funny response to this. Just ... yeah.

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 28 August 2006 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

It's like on par with, I dunno ...

* Muslims reproduce SEXUALLY, the filthy freaks

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 28 August 2006 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

And scientists who try to teach about intelligent design are silenced?

Not in Alabamy they ain't, for shame.

Zeno Piston's Cruel Cartoon (Haberdager), Monday, 28 August 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought Bill Clinton abused his power to SAVE taxpayers billions of dollars!

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 28 August 2006 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

A potent reminder that, maddening as it may be at times, PC contains the word 'correct' for a reason!

Zeno Piston's Cruel Cartoon (Haberdager), Monday, 28 August 2006 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link

LOL

sunny successor (katharine), Monday, 28 August 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

these need more scare quotes

oh yeah, and last but not least:

The Politically Incorrect Guide™ to Science

Science is neutral, right?

Of course it’s reliable, based on fact, unprejudiced, and trustworthy, isn’t it? Well, guess again. A lot of what passes for science these days is pseudo-science, and a lot of scientific fact is hidden from public view because it’s not politically correct.

Science has been politicized—not by the Right, but by the Left, which sees global warming, Darwinism, stem cell research, and innumerable other issues as tools to advance its agenda (and in many cases expand the reach of government).

When liberals trot out scientists with white coats, debate is supposed to be silenced. But many of the high priests of science have something to hide—from blind intolerance of religion to jealous guarding of their federally financed research budgets.


I'm kinda wondering if authoritarian types just misrepresent other sides, or actually figure that everybody operates under their same bullshit way of fact-free declaration(e.g. not understanding how peer review works).

It's like with Peggy Noonan's "all scientists are political" or some rightwinger going on about the Death of Science in his blog...

kingfish high command (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 28 August 2006 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Reading blogs like that terrifies me. Please stop linking to them. ok thx

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 28 August 2006 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

* What is known today as the “Islamic world” was created by a series of brutal conquests of non-Muslim lands

Global conquest being kind of a zero-sum game at the best of times!

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 28 August 2006 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Reading blogs like that terrifies me. Please stop linking to them. ok thx

same thing as on the Iraq threads; it helps to get an idea every once in a while of what they're talking about. Ned used the example of it demonstrating the rot inside, with which I agree.

kingfish high command (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 28 August 2006 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm most offended by 'a bunt is better than a grand slam!'

milo z (mlp), Monday, 28 August 2006 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link

haha, oops.

milo z (mlp), Monday, 28 August 2006 19:46 (seventeen years ago) link

ten months pass...

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kingfish, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 03:18 (sixteen years ago) link

I like that you don't even have to open them up to know their contents, although it might be interesting to read how hunting is safer than table tennis.

Abbott, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 03:29 (sixteen years ago) link

one could make a crude joke about how these guys knew too many dudes who somehow choked on "balls in they mouf", but that would be unseemly.

kingfish, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 03:32 (sixteen years ago) link

OMG I hope hunters incur a lot of mutual nut-sucking injuries.

Abbott, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 03:37 (sixteen years ago) link

I also like the others complaining about Roe v. Wade & the hunting one's all repping for the songbirds.

Abbott, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 03:39 (sixteen years ago) link

good ol ron paul.

the hat on the stag horns leads me to believe these are all onion jokes.

Frogman Henry, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 03:41 (sixteen years ago) link

they're not, that's the fun/scary bit

kingfish, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 03:44 (sixteen years ago) link

When predators aren't hunted, they prey on people?

Um, really? Are there documented cases of bears/wolves/etc. actively seeking out human prey? Mountain lions and coyotes, etc. attack people when we start encroaching on their habitat, but I don't recall a rash of man-eaters or anything.

milo z, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 03:53 (sixteen years ago) link

The reliance on straw men for so much of what fills these books is staggering. I often find myself reading a right-winger's rants about what liberals think about this and that, and I think, "I don't believe that, and neither do any of my liberal friends." When was the last time, for example, that any prominent liberal claimed that separation of church and state is explicitly mentioned in the Constitution (as opposed to, you know, being established fucking precedent and a cornerstone of free societies for centuries)?

Nathan, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 04:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Part of it is the standard three choices:

1) disingeniousness
2) projection
3) cluelessness

take yer pick

kingfish, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 04:15 (sixteen years ago) link

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the author sued the freakonomics authors for defamation. the suit got thrown out of court really quickly.

abanana, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 05:48 (sixteen years ago) link

For some reason "Freedomnomics" + pie makes me think

NOM NOM

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 05:50 (sixteen years ago) link

nooo it are my free market!

kenan, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 05:52 (sixteen years ago) link

freenomnomics

sleep, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 05:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Conservatives can't think in terms of systemic causation, only as simplistic, linear causation, which is why they wouldn't believe it for years possible that we could fuck with the climate

kingfish, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 06:32 (sixteen years ago) link

oh, shut up and get a job.

kenan, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 06:43 (sixteen years ago) link

the supreme court bit is blowing my mind.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 08:16 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't get that baseball one

J.D., Wednesday, 11 July 2007 08:44 (sixteen years ago) link

The bible one is interesting, in that actually if you reverse the statements, the truth can emerge.

e.g. The enemies of true reason and tolerance are enemies of the bible.

Take that, Religious Right!

Mark G, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 08:54 (sixteen years ago) link

The hunting one is BAFFLING. "without hunting deer, songbird populations plummet". Err... since when did deer eat birds!? WTF?

Trayce, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 08:56 (sixteen years ago) link

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Horner (an attorney and senior fellow at the Competitive Enterprise Institute) reveals the full anti-American, anti-capitalist, and anti-human agenda of today's environmentalists, dubbing them "green on the outside, red to the core."

Anti-human?

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 08:58 (sixteen years ago) link

But doesn't the Penguin look much happier in Hawaii?

Mark G, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 08:59 (sixteen years ago) link

The hunting one is BAFFLING. "without hunting deer, songbird populations plummet". Err... since when did deer eat birds!? WTF?

-- Trayce, Wednesday, July 11, 2007 8:56 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

As I understand it the argument goes that hunters preserve habitats that songbirds like and therefore if they stopped hunting those habitats would becaome walmarts. or something.

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 09:01 (sixteen years ago) link

They used the same one over here about hunting foxes. Interestingly they have tried the 'predators eat people' one too. Foxes snatching babies from prams, that kind of thing.

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 09:02 (sixteen years ago) link

"green on the outside, red to the core."

I think I might get a t-shirt with this on.

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 09:03 (sixteen years ago) link

'predators eat people'

I initially misread that as "hunters kill people"

funnily enough...

Mark G, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 09:06 (sixteen years ago) link

I wd like to hear stories of aulde of antelope eating people.

Trayce, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 09:09 (sixteen years ago) link

It'd certainly have made Northern Exposure a more interesting TV show!

Trayce, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 09:10 (sixteen years ago) link

They used the same one over here about hunting foxes. Interestingly they have tried the 'predators eat people' one too. Foxes snatching babies from prams, that kind of thing.

-- Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, July 11, 2007 10:02 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

um no they didn't

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 09:12 (sixteen years ago) link

They did. We had letters to our local paper about just such things. Both things.

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 09:13 (sixteen years ago) link

they used the "we will now kill more foxes with guns" and "lol enjoy having foxes in cities" arguments. as well as the less persuasive "hells yeah i enjoy killing things" argument.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 09:13 (sixteen years ago) link

sorry i confused "they" with opinions people give a shit about, not letters to local papers.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 09:14 (sixteen years ago) link

We live on the heart of hunting country and are constantly bombarded with this crap so please do not tell me what I have or have not been told.

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 09:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Fuck a Hunt Sab, basically.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 09:15 (sixteen years ago) link

For the benefit of that one guy. Here is the hunting fraternity arguing that they protect habitats.
http://www.countryside-alliance.org.uk/hunting-campaigns/hunting-the-facts/hunting%27s-contribution-helps-environment-thrive/

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 09:19 (sixteen years ago) link

They're right. I don't see many crusties out cultivating anything. Maybe weed.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 09:22 (sixteen years ago) link

And here are the fox attacks people story that get repeated ad nausem around these parts.

Fox attacks pensioner
http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=586&id=1016862004

Fox attacks baby
http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=586&id=713602002

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 09:24 (sixteen years ago) link

As I understand it the argument goes that hunters preserve habitats that songbirds like and therefore if they stopped hunting those habitats would becaome walmarts. or something

But capitalism defeats racism, improves the environment, and is essential to a free society! If hunters stop Walmarts then capitalism won't be able to save the world and the songbirds will die anyway.

V, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 14:10 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

http://www.regnery.com/books/pigmiddleeast.html

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Filled with historical lessons and essential facts, this controversial new “P.I.G.” demonstrates why knowing the Middle East’s past is vital to understanding—and solving—the region’s problems today. Discover why:

* Western-style democracy will not fix Iraq’s problems
* President Bush’s quest for Israeli-Palestinian peace is misguided
* Islamic fundamentalism isn’t ancient—which is why it’s so dangerous
* Bush Sr.—not Bush Jr.—should have invaded Iraq

Brotherhood of Stealing Shit to Sell to Trader Caravans (kingfish), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 06:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Everything You Need to Know About Western Heritage — But PC Professors Won't Teach

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The glory that was Greece...the grandeur that was Rome" — not so long ago, Western culture was the foundation of every educated American. But not anymore. Plato's teachings? Irrelevant. Roman culture? Chauvinistic. If there's one thing liberal professors and pundits can't stand—it's Western civilization.

Coming to its rescue is The Politically Incorrect Guide™ to Western Civilization—the essential sourcebook for defending everything from Christianity and the Classics to Sophocles and the Founding Fathers. And who better to defend our heritage than one of America's foremost Western civilization scholars—Professor Anthony Esolen. Esolen takes on the "PC police," revealing what they don't want you to know, including:

* How the "Dark" Ages were full of learning, invention, and art—and the Renaissance was rather backward
* How the Enlightenment yielded tyranny and violence, and encouraged the devaluation of the individual
* How the "progressive ideas" of the nineteenth century led to the fascism, communism, and two world wars of the twentieth century

Esolen's The Politically Incorrect Guide™ to Western Civilization brings the battle for truth, tradition, and morality to the doorsteps of leftists who dismiss our heritage and disown our country's foundation. With the West threatened by global jihad, China, and more, defending Western civilization has never been so important.

Brotherhood of Stealing Shit to Sell to Trader Caravans (kingfish), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 06:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Uhm, presumably these PC Professors are all the ones teaching all those courses on Latin, Greek, Western Civ, and the Classics? Or are those different liberal professors? What about the ones teaching Liberal Arts?

Brotherhood of Stealing Shit to Sell to Trader Caravans (kingfish), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 06:22 (fifteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

Since they've already lost, why not re-fight 40-year-old culture wars some more:

http://www.conservativebookservice.com/products/BookPage.asp?prod_cd=c7384

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You think you know the Sixties. But did you know...

* The Sixties the media celebrates wasn't the decade most of America lived -- the most popular movie of the decade was The Sound of Music, the biggest star was John Wayne -- and the teen pop band Herman's Hermits outsold the Beatles and the Rolling Stones combined in 1965

* Most people voting for Eugene McCarthy in New Hampshire in 1968 wanted a more aggressive war policy in Vietnam

* The principal motives of the radicals leading 1960's street protests were casual sex, avoidance of military service and dreams of power in a future Communist state

* Draft deferments provided a motive for anti-war radicals to stay in school, get their doctorates and take over the universities

* The desire to prevent students from getting C-averages which would cause them to lose their draft deferments led to the beginning of "Grade inflation"

* 200,000 Communist troops switched sides during the Vietnam War to work for the South Vietnamese, and the Viet Cong only had 25,000 troops in total left when the U.S. left South Vietnam

* The U.S. army won every major campaign it fought in Vietnam, and the Vietcong never recovered from the debacle of the Tet offensive

* The abandonment of South Vietnam after 1973 by Democratic congresses led directly to the Boat People and the bloodbath in Cambodia under Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge

* The leaders of the Students for a Democratic Society admired the medieval Vandals: They considered naming themselves after them

* The leaders of the Berkeley Free Speech movement opposed free speech and believed in totalitarian Communism

* Many of the leaders of the "anti-war" movement took their orders direct from the Communist Party

* The riots at the 1968 Chicago Democratic Convention resulted from months of planning by radical leaders whose goal was to provoke a violent police response -- to which end, the radicals threw urine, feces and concrete at the police for hours before they police lost their calm

* The Black Panthers killed hundreds of their own members and supported themselves by drug-dealing -- mostly to black ghetto kids

* Malcolm X hated whites right to the end of his life and had supported himself through gay prostitution

* Gloria Steinem opposed the life of marriage and childbirth because she's emotionally crippled by her own father's abandonment and her mother's insanity

* Bobby Vinton had multiple #1 hits in the 1960s -- and Bob Dylan didn't have any

* The civil rights movement was mostly opposed by Democrats, not Republicans

* In passing the Civil Rights Act of 1964, Congressional leaders promised that "affirmative action" would never be permitted

* JFK promised the anti-Castro rebels who attacked at the Bay of Pigs that the U.S. would supply air support -- then left them stranded

* Kennedy was a "supply-sider" before the term existed and his one real achievement was his tax-cuts -- these kick- started a decade-long economic boom

* The Kennedy administration tried to force NASA to place a less qualified black astronaut into the Apollo program; NASA administrators refused

* U.S. Census data proves that the collapse of the Black family largely followed the Great Society's War On Poverty -- and didn't precede it

* Great Society social programs facilitated illegitimacy and thereby served to keep poor those it claimed to help

* The unfunded liabilities on Medicaid and Medicare programs initiated in the 1960's has created a huge risk of future government default

* Great Society programs consistently benefited politically-connected liberals

* LBJ's tax increases and money-printing set the stage for the stagflation of the 1970s

* Crime skyrocketed during the 1960's, and violent crime rates more than doubled -- and guess what? This change took place right as courts drastically reduced punishment and weakened the hand of the police

* Supreme Court Justice Abe Fortas regularly spoke with and advised LBJ about political affairs (a clear violation of the idea of separation of powers) and took secret payments from a wealthy Wall Street client

* The most enduring intellectual legacy of the 1960s may have been that of Barry Goldwater and Milton Friedman

* Studies of Sixties radicals show that they were much more sexually neurotic than the "uptight squares" they mocked

* The drug culture of the 1960's destroyed the minds of many of Ken Kesey's so-called Merry Pranksters -- and hundreds of thousands of others

* The advent of no-fault divorce laws led to a culture of transient relationships, widespread illegitimacy, a generation raised without a norm of two-parent households and a much increased problem of child molestation

* The freedom that women were supposed to have found in the Sixties largely boiled down to easy contraception and abortion -- things to make life easier for men, in fact

kingfish, Saturday, 1 August 2009 23:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Draft deferments provided a motive for anti-war radicals to stay in school, get their doctorates and take over the universities

Damn that Dick Cheney!

carson dial, Saturday, 1 August 2009 23:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Bobby Vinton had multiple #1 hits in the 1960s -- and Bob Dylan didn't have any

take THAT nineteen sixties!
i also like how the wording on the cover just peters out at 'The Black Panthers killed hundreds of their own members (and supported themselves by drug-dealing to ghetto -- i mean, maybe the scan is just messed up but it's like a mixture of bile and bad logic killed the guy's flow

the heart is a lonely hamster (schlump), Saturday, 1 August 2009 23:46 (fourteen years ago) link

* JFK promised the anti-Castro rebels who attacked at the Bay of Pigs that the U.S. would supply air support -- then left them stranded

droppin t-bombs

BIG HOOS's wacky crack variety hour (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 1 August 2009 23:56 (fourteen years ago) link

weird amounts of 'well that is technically a true statement' in the past few of these posted on the thread - i mean, i guess the kent state shootings are technically the most violent a protest on an american campus has gotten

"the Viet Cong only had 25,000 troops in total left when the U.S. left South Vietnam"

that one's kind of just a lie, though

thomp, Sunday, 2 August 2009 00:15 (fourteen years ago) link

most of the claims on the cover of the middle east one aren't crazy, although they indicate a fairly wrongheaded way of looking at things — first two are just fairly straight up truths, though

thomp, Sunday, 2 August 2009 00:22 (fourteen years ago) link

otoh chapter headings include 'The Persian Empire: When Iran was good' and 'How liberal busybodies sparked the Islamic Revolution'

thomp, Sunday, 2 August 2009 00:24 (fourteen years ago) link

i like the ones that seem to celebrate racism and slavery.

akm, Sunday, 2 August 2009 01:13 (fourteen years ago) link

It takes some balls to turn something that disadvantages the poor (if you're rich, you can go to college and avoid the draft) into something pro the left (ergo, everyone in power positions in college is a lefty draft-dodger) But none of them stand up to scrutiny, so any time we spend thinking about them is more than they deserve.

dowd, Sunday, 2 August 2009 01:35 (fourteen years ago) link

"The Sixties the media celebrates wasn't the decade most of America lived -- the most popular movie of the decade was The Sound of Music, the biggest star was John Wayne -- and the teen pop band Herman's Hermits outsold the Beatles and the Rolling Stones combined in 1965"

1965! The most important year ever!

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 2 August 2009 02:12 (fourteen years ago) link

"The Nineties the media celebrates wasn't the decade most of America lived -- the second-most popular movie of the decade was The Phantom Menace, and Lou Bega was the most popular pop singer of 1999."

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 2 August 2009 02:15 (fourteen years ago) link

most of the claims on the cover of the middle east one aren't crazy, although they indicate a fairly wrongheaded way of looking at things — first two are just fairly straight up truths, though

The second is at least a non sequitur though? I don't know how something, just by virtue of it not being ancient, could be dangerous. Of course I haven't read the authors detailed analysis of the situation.

Ned Trifle II, Sunday, 2 August 2009 06:09 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, true

so what's the lefty equivalent of these, and does it have anything to do with counterpunch

thomp, Sunday, 2 August 2009 10:17 (fourteen years ago) link

they've already pitted themselves against the "lefty" equivalent of this, which is, you know, actual facts and science.

Fetchboy, Sunday, 2 August 2009 10:26 (fourteen years ago) link

"Democracy is not America's friend in the Middle East" is just a fun-house-bizarre statement. Who said it was? And if they did, why were they personifying democracy? And why are they implying that democracy is already a resident in the Middle East? One who won't have America as its house guest? Is this statement merely bad worded, or is it up to something? I almost want to read more to find out. What a weird thing to say.

reared on Shakespeare (kenan), Sunday, 2 August 2009 10:51 (fourteen years ago) link

badLY worded, I meant. Speaking of things that are badly worded.

reared on Shakespeare (kenan), Sunday, 2 August 2009 10:52 (fourteen years ago) link

people should just slap a big "DNFTT" sticker on each of these books.

galumphing lummox (bug), Sunday, 2 August 2009 11:37 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, the middle east one is v much that - i do ALMOST want to see if those arguments come out with a measure of logical consistency. would love to find a free copy /:

thomp, Sunday, 2 August 2009 13:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Heh just saw this thread -- is hunting considered very right-wing crazy in the US or something?

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link

is hunting considered very right-wing crazy in the US or something?

not really, but the gun nut/"obama's going to send ACORN to take away our guns and put us into FEMA death camps" folks sure are

For example:

http://www.newsday.com/sheriffs-woman-arrested-at-air-base-had-guns-in-car-1.1345260

kingfish, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link

* Kennedy was a "supply-sider" before the term existed and his one real achievement was his tax-cuts -- these kick- started a decade-long economic boom

* LBJ's tax increases and money-printing set the stage for the stagflation of the 1970s

hmmm

goole, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link

*Iran can't be reformed—but the Saudis can.

lol

goole, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link

not really, but the gun nut/"obama's going to send ACORN to take away our guns and put us into FEMA death camps" folks sure are

Ah I see. Gun control thingy. Didn't think of that. It's not that unusual to have (hunting) guns at home over here, y'see. Also, home guard mandatory weapons. Very well recorded in governmental registries of course.

Is it the crazy-right "by ancient amendment we shall have guns WITHOUT gvnmt knowing and we're gonna use it" that makes the ahem US "left" laff and scoff at hunting?

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 23:17 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd venture to guess it's the urban/suburban vs. rural divide that leads to guns and hunting being more in line with conservatives. I grew up in rural place where hunting and guns were huge. My wife's high school had the first day of firearm (as opposed to black powder or archery deer seasons) deer season off, and everyone there was required to take hunter safety class. Even in my bigger, more high-falutin' school tons of people were into hunting and just grew up with guns around, in the house and it wasn't a big deal at all.

Most of the people I know from cities and suburbs have never held or even seen a real live gun up close, they're just horrible things that criminals or rednecks have, and the idea of using a gun as a tool for a hobby - hunting - is kind of baffling to them.

joygoat, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 04:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I went to a suburban high school, and think that every American kid should have to attend a gun/hunters safety class.

kingfish, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 05:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I totally agree - people seem to be both unnaturally afraid and simultaneously careless with guns. The hunters I know are generally super cautious about guns because they know how to use them and what they are capable of.

joygoat, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

My youngest brother told me "it's a good thing [he] didn't pay attention during hunter safety class" bcz then he wld know how to load bullets into my dad's handgun that is RIGHT IN THE FUCKING HOUSE and shoot himself.

a muttering inbred (called) (not named) (Abbott), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Not that that has any impact on things in the grand run, it's just funny that the hunters safety class failed = can't do suicide.

a muttering inbred (called) (not named) (Abbott), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

I'm not sure if that is true of city and suburban people, a lot of them might have relatives in less urban areas who owned weapons or who hunted on the weekends. My grandfather owned a business in a rural area where keeping a firearm on the premises was part of the culture, everyone had them - didn't make one crazy, illiterate or a gun nut.

Also lots of suburbanites own second homes where they hunt on the weekends or on vacations.

If that's not the case, many, many people have relatives who work or have worked in law enforcement.

It isn't safe to own a firearm in densely populated areas, especially in condominiums and apartments. It's often not part of people's urban lifestyle, no. But surely a percentage of those people grew up around firearms in some capacity.

Funye West! (u s steel), Saturday, 26 February 2011 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link

I had no idea that the teen pop band Herman's Hermits outsold the teen pop band Beatles and the teen pop band Rolling Stones combined in 1965

iatee, Saturday, 26 February 2011 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm not surprised, US was still pretty conservative then - look at the charts!

I remember being a kid in the seventies when some kids' parents did not allow rock music in the house. Or their parents, though they were young, listened to nothing but mass produced orchestra music.

Funye West! (u s steel), Saturday, 26 February 2011 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link

wanna poll some of these

* The leaders of the Students for a Democratic Society admired the medieval Vandals: They considered naming themselves after them

* The leaders of the Berkeley Free Speech movement opposed free speech and believed in totalitarian Communism

* The Black Panthers killed hundreds of their own members and supported themselves by drug-dealing -- mostly to black ghetto kids

* Malcolm X hated whites right to the end of his life and had supported himself through gay prostitution

* Gloria Steinem opposed the life of marriage and childbirth because she's emotionally crippled by her own father's abandonment and her mother's insanity

* The civil rights movement was mostly opposed by Democrats, not Republicans

* In passing the Civil Rights Act of 1964, Congressional leaders promised that "affirmative action" would never be permitted

* The Kennedy administration tried to force NASA to place a less qualified black astronaut into the Apollo program; NASA administrators refused

* Studies of Sixties radicals show that they were much more sexually neurotic than the "uptight squares" they mocked

* The drug culture of the 1960's destroyed the minds of many of Ken Kesey's so-called Merry Pranksters -- and hundreds of thousands of others

* The freedom that women were supposed to have found in the Sixties largely boiled down to easy contraception and abortion -- things to make life easier for men, in fact

odd future wolves GM trade them all (bernard snowy), Saturday, 26 February 2011 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link

"abortion: it's all about men"

odd future wolves GM trade them all (bernard snowy), Saturday, 26 February 2011 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Where did you get this laughable rubbish?

Funye West! (u s steel), Saturday, 26 February 2011 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I culled the most laughable ones from the long list posted upthread

odd future wolves GM trade them all (bernard snowy), Saturday, 26 February 2011 22:21 (thirteen years ago) link

I love the Middle Ages as the real "Age of Reason", what sort of propaganda is THIS? WTF do the middle ages have to do with conservatism? I thought true conservatives were pro-technology, pro-Enlightenment?

Some of the most evil conservatism is that which blatantly contradicts what it claims. Like defending the middle ages. Just because people go to church doesn't mean they want to live in the middle ages.

Also some people still worshipped trees or false idols in the Middle Ages. How is this propaganda advancing conservative causes?

Funye West! (u s steel), Saturday, 26 February 2011 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

cuz they were way into jesus

http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Sunday, 27 February 2011 01:27 (thirteen years ago) link

actually that middle ages one sounds like something a leftist post-structuralist theologian like terry eagleton would say. "science and progress and stuff is bad/an illusion cuz of nuclear bombs and consumerism... ahhh do you see?"

http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Sunday, 27 February 2011 01:34 (thirteen years ago) link

it's more output from the same mindset that runs so much of the GOP right now, of little else other than spite and resentment. Damaged or un(der)developed people going "oh oh OH YEAH?! Well, we're write our own books full of nonsense TOO!"

Crazed Mister Handy (kingfish), Sunday, 27 February 2011 02:52 (thirteen years ago) link

updates!

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* They would abolish income, payroll, and most excise taxes—while working to control or abolish the Federal Reserve
* They would seek to reduce the size of the military, end commitments to NATO and the United Nations, and stick with their original plan simply to seek good neighbors and neutral trading partners among foreign countries
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Crazed Mister Handy (kingfish), Sunday, 27 February 2011 02:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Enemy body reports were actually underreported

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Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 27 February 2011 03:09 (thirteen years ago) link


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