I'm 27 now, and I just bought another pair of baggy jeans... When should you start dressing like an adult?

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I don't really feel like a grown-up, so I don't want to start wearing my shirt tucked inside my pants, and I really like baggy clothes, but then again I wouldn't want to appear as some sad sack who can't let go of his youth either... Has anyone else gone through a late-twenties clothing crisis?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 29 July 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

Not I.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 July 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

I'm your age, and dressing like a tramp doesn't bother me in the least. If I put on posh clothes I just look awkward anyway, I think I'm destined for a life of sartorial inelegance. Nothing wrong with that.

chap who would dare to start Raaatpackin (chap), Saturday, 29 July 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

Has anyone else gone through a late-twenties clothing crisis?

Yes, about 17 years ago.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Saturday, 29 July 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

I went from very fat, to not very fat, so in my late 20s I avoid all things baggy if possible.

Except today, it's fucking hot.

Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 29 July 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

Tuomas, this is not the best place to ask is it? FWIW i tend to think you look ok in the WDYLL pics you post & better than most male ilxors.

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 29 July 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

This isn't about how I look (I think my clothes fit me perfectly well, in general), rather than when, if ever, should you start to conform to the expectations on how "a person of your age" should look like. I've already bought my first collared shirt last year...

Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 29 July 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

ok then, most men dress badly and the reason they look bad is because they dress like children. so yes, people should dress their age more.

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 29 July 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

My clothing crises are all beergut-related.

Whitman Mayonnaise (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 29 July 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

An awareness of this issue has managed to stop be buying ANY new clothes in the last year (and I turned 30 in December). Can't bring myself to buy more youngish stuff, but haven't found any oldish stuff that feels right.

JimD (JimD), Saturday, 29 July 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

The Van Heusen outlet store has a bunch of washable 100% silk shirts for cheap -- got several, and now I get the feeling that I dress like an old Italian man.

Whitman Mayonnaise (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 29 July 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

I think age is a much less useful category than 'does this look good on?'. I would rather see youthful, well fitting clothing on everyone than another khaki shorts t-shirt athletic sandals baseball cap combo on a so-called adult.

Dolores Haze (Arachne), Saturday, 29 July 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

the reason they look bad is because they dress like children is interesting

it often seems, to me, that some men barely think about what they are wearing

are you talking (in part?) about t-shirts/football shirts/sportswear, as day-to-day clothing, on people over a certain age?

I try not to think about what I "should" wear. I think I would dress more badly and feel more awkward, if I did

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 29 July 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

and rather agree w/ Dolores Haze, in theory

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 29 July 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

there is no reason for baggy clothes

-- (688), Saturday, 29 July 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

agree w/ that too, really

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 29 July 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

Eat yer heart out, Ziggy Sobatka!

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 29 July 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

PS, I'm 37.

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 29 July 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

do what you want and fuck the hatas

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Saturday, 29 July 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

I'm 38, and the only shirt I own that isn't a band shirt is my "BSD OR DEATH"
t-shirt.

shieldforyoureyes (shieldforyoureyes), Saturday, 29 July 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

there is no reason for band tshirts

-- (688), Saturday, 29 July 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

there is no reason for clothing

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 29 July 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

when it's this hot out amirite

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 29 July 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

there is a reason for argyle socks

-- (688), Saturday, 29 July 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

so we can more quickly identify the walking dead

i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Saturday, 29 July 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

do what you want and fuck the hatas

OTM

teh_kit is jayne without the tits (g-kit), Saturday, 29 July 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/onion_news329.article.jpg

dar1a g (daria g), Saturday, 29 July 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

I would like to dress like the Gunn guy from Project Runway. But I'm poor and it's hot, so I wear t-shirts and jeans and a Red Sox cap.

milo z (mlp), Saturday, 29 July 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

I feel like men in the Midwest either dress like children or adults -- and I mean "adult" in the pleated-khakis, plaid shirted way, like middle-class dads. It's like they're the analog of Medieval Europe in not having an in-between-aged culture. Gross.

Of course there's a huge population of 20/30-somethings, you'd just never know it from the way they dress.

Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 29 July 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

ED: "Ever wonder why people wear clothes?"
RUBIN: "Nope."
ED: "But...well, look at it this way. Man's best friend is his apparel. Now, you start to dress for success, and you will score with the babes, and make the big bucks. You gotta admit that's true!
RUBIN: "I don't have to admit that."
ED: "You have to admit that!"
RUBIN: "No, I don't!"
ED: "Yes, you do!"
RUBIN: "I don't have to admit anything!"
ED: "You have to admit there's hair on your head!"
RUBIN: "No, I don't!"
ED: "Yes, you do! You have to admit that!"
RUBIN: "No, I don't!"
ED: "But you have to admit your cat's dead! He's deader than a doornail! That cat is colder than a well digger's ass! Pretty hard to deny that isn't it, Mr. Smartypants? Yep. Deceased. El morto. No more Mr. Kittycat."

Marmot 4-Tay: I'll sip from his well without hesitation. (marmotwolof), Saturday, 29 July 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

(ILX in a nutshell)

Marmot 4-Tay: I'll sip from his well without hesitation. (marmotwolof), Saturday, 29 July 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

i still buy clothes designed for teenagers. i dont really feel like dressing like an adult. maybe in 10 years.

i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Saturday, 29 July 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

that's not a tan jacket, but a shitty jacket. maybe it looks better in *reality* but onscreen that colour just screams poopoo. sorry. :-(

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Saturday, 29 July 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)


actually i just gave the other pics (on that ebay page) a look and it looks great! so i take back what i said.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Saturday, 29 July 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

do what you want and fuck the hatas
OTM

-- teh_kit is jayne without the tits (kittenslikemil...), July 29th, 2006. (g-kit) (later)

OTM, sure, but it's not going to make you look any better.

RJG, i'm not really talking about t-shirts/football shirts/sportswear, but that's part of it. i'm talking in general about the kinds of casual wear that men generally do wear & whether it's camper shoes or baggy trousers or stripey t-shirts i usually think that yeah, it would look ok on a toddler but it doesn't look ok on someone in their 30s. i really DO think that people should wear whatever they want to wear but i don't think it follows that they should feel proud of it.

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 29 July 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

i still wear baggy jeans and i am in my mid 30s. they're comfortable and anyway, it doesn't look outta place on me OR where i live. so fuck da hatas.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 29 July 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I got it for ridiculously cheap, so if it's uggo in real life at least it's not too expensive a lesson.

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 29 July 2006 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

full grown men that wear baggy jeans are idiots. i wear women's jeans.

cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 29 July 2006 23:08 (nineteen years ago)

i've gravitated towards clothes for men (not teenagers) in the past year. I think it has more to do with how awful most streetwear brands seem to be here (i'm 24). i don't want to buy something that i'll be embarassed to wear in six months time.

Mil (Mil), Saturday, 29 July 2006 23:22 (nineteen years ago)

skin tight jeans on long legs look shit. has to be a loose fit, move in it.

stet (stet), Sunday, 30 July 2006 00:32 (nineteen years ago)

how do adults dress?

gem (trisk), Sunday, 30 July 2006 02:17 (nineteen years ago)

like this: http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/DGV/DGV625/741017.jpg

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 30 July 2006 02:21 (nineteen years ago)

i'd love to have the self-confidence to stroll around in a three-piece suite and bowler hat and not feel like a twat. might look a bit odd though.

gem (trisk), Sunday, 30 July 2006 03:31 (nineteen years ago)

I would rather see youthful, well fitting clothing on everyone than another khaki shorts t-shirt athletic sandals baseball cap combo on a so-called adult.

minus the ballcap, this is what i'm wearing right now. i understand the antipathy, but really, shorts-sandals-t-shirt is comfortable. it's what i wear for as much of the hot months as i can get away with. i guess i could wear a tunic or something. i kind of wish there were more tunics available in your average mens store. but don't take away my shorts and sandals, dammit.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 30 July 2006 03:37 (nineteen years ago)

(i'm 36 and i guess my clothes are getting more grown-up, because when my discerning sister visited recently she was impressed by my selection of shirts.)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 30 July 2006 03:38 (nineteen years ago)

dude with derby hat looks like francois mitterand!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 30 July 2006 03:52 (nineteen years ago)

he's got very impressive eyebrows

gem (trisk), Sunday, 30 July 2006 04:07 (nineteen years ago)

what about those oldies you see sometimes, usually in new york or london or whatever, who are decked out in "cool" adults' clothes that became fashionable well after they hit their 30s (or 40s)? some salt-and-pepper haired guy strolling out of a "design" studio in a converted warehouse wearing prada trainers and horn-rimmed glasses, i just wanna be like dude, your nonsquareness is embarrassing

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Sunday, 30 July 2006 11:49 (nineteen years ago)

shorts-sandals-t-shirt is comfortable, and being comfortable does not make you a horrible person, but rarely if ever in the course of human history has comfortable= fashionable.
I do feel like this is maybe harder to deal with for men, when there are so few styles of dress to choose from, and every thing there is to choose from has all sorts of cultural assumptions attached to it (suit= conservative, khaki shorts= middle class dad, any visible attention paid to grooming= hipster fashion victim).
I think we should replace 'I must start dressing like an adult' with'lately, I feel in the mood to wear clothing that is more tailored.' Or less tailored. The real thing to be wary of is getting stuck wearing the fashions of your younger years just because it just feels comfortable after a while.

Dolores Haze (Arachne), Sunday, 30 July 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

To combine what mothra said with the "too motherfucking hot" thread, I've often thought it would be nice if men in Texas could wear sarongs in summer without risking a gay-bashing. It's as hot here as it is in Polynesia. Yes, I know this is Austin. But it is STILL Texas.

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Sunday, 30 July 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

I think the root men's vs. women's difference is that women are expected to own a wide variety of different clothing, the individual pieces of which aren't worn very often, while men tend to have a smaller number of more durable, often-worn pieces.

totally

cutty, Monday, 9 July 2007 22:53 (eighteen years ago)

(i didn't want to say nabisco OTM)

cutty, Monday, 9 July 2007 22:54 (eighteen years ago)

if you guys could only see what i'm wearing right now

cutty, Monday, 9 July 2007 22:54 (eighteen years ago)

Why don't you just...tell us?

admrl, Monday, 9 July 2007 22:55 (eighteen years ago)

this is a funny thread

RJG, Monday, 9 July 2007 22:57 (eighteen years ago)

I don't see much to laugh about.

admrl, Monday, 9 July 2007 22:58 (eighteen years ago)

tretorn/acne collab shoes
trovata shorts
silas t-shirt
eugenia kim hat

cutty, Monday, 9 July 2007 22:59 (eighteen years ago)

did you show all messages?

RJG, Monday, 9 July 2007 22:59 (eighteen years ago)

tretorn/acne collab shoes
trovata shorts
silas t-shirt
eugenia kim hat

If I was the sort of person who understood what any of this stuff is, what sort of conclusions what I draw from this?

admrl, Monday, 9 July 2007 23:02 (eighteen years ago)

WOULD I draw

admrl, Monday, 9 July 2007 23:02 (eighteen years ago)

why did you ask

cutty, Monday, 9 July 2007 23:07 (eighteen years ago)

put together an outfit jew monkey

cutty, Monday, 9 July 2007 23:09 (eighteen years ago)

Trousers are exactly what I need. How much should I expect to spend minimum on a decent pair (not including alterations)?

Hurting 2, Monday, 9 July 2007 23:11 (eighteen years ago)

you're wearing a hat?

RJG, Monday, 9 July 2007 23:12 (eighteen years ago)

a few things:
1) pants with pleats can look fantastic, there's no reason to diss all of them in one fell swoop.

2) what is wrong with lacoste style golf shirts? they can be so becoming, and at this point, they come in so many fucking crazy colors that it takes a fashion retard not to look good in them. (tho not w/ khakis. khakis give me the howling fantods)

3) linen pants are excellent, and they actually DO last a long time, provided you are relatively careful. if accidents occur...well, a lot of them are white anyway. bleach is your friend.

4) to the men who don't wear shorts, ever: be prepared to have the most disgusting legs when you get older. like seriously.

5) places 2 shop: it is called Loehmann's Department Store and it sells well-made, good-looking designer clothes for much cheaper than you'll ever pay in any other new clothing store. ALL of my pants and some of my shorts are from Loehmann's.

the table is the table, Monday, 9 July 2007 23:12 (eighteen years ago)

you sound like you dress like you are 60

cutty, Monday, 9 July 2007 23:14 (eighteen years ago)

I think I have an aversion to things that look expensive, especially stuff that looks like expensive versions of hipster wear.

Hurting 2, Monday, 9 July 2007 23:14 (eighteen years ago)

Also, high fashion needs to cio with their fucking websites.

Hurting 2, Monday, 9 July 2007 23:14 (eighteen years ago)

hipster wear is either vintage clothing or expensive clothing, there is no in between

cutty, Monday, 9 July 2007 23:19 (eighteen years ago)

why did you ask

Because I wanted to know!

admrl, Monday, 9 July 2007 23:22 (eighteen years ago)

you would conclude that i spend too much on clothes and i look too good

cutty, Monday, 9 July 2007 23:23 (eighteen years ago)

fyi cutty, i tend to dress like this guy:
http://spectacle.provocateuse.com/images/spectacles/don_johnson_01.jpg

and if you ever diss the way i dress again, i will find you and rip your disgusting $400 jeans off your ass, fucker.

the table is the table, Monday, 9 July 2007 23:26 (eighteen years ago)

Also I cannot wear these skinny jeans. I have muscular legs. But I don't really like baggy jeans either. It is deeply difficult, but one tries.

admrl, Monday, 9 July 2007 23:26 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, I do admire you, cutty.

admrl, Monday, 9 July 2007 23:27 (eighteen years ago)

NO MY PIC FUCK. anyway, that was Don Johnson.

the table is the table, Monday, 9 July 2007 23:28 (eighteen years ago)

Although posting to ILX in a hat is a bit like making a phone call with gloves on.

xp

admrl, Monday, 9 July 2007 23:28 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think I could give you a trouser minimum, Hurting, since it depends on so much stuff -- hell, if you're easy to fit and hit the right designer consignment store, you could have some world-class trousers for cheaper than a pair of Levis. Personally, the couple pairs of really great, stylishly cut, wise-investment trousers I own both came in around $200, from places like APC and DKNY.

nabisco, Monday, 9 July 2007 23:28 (eighteen years ago)

Unfortunately I invested in a good suit for my wedding and then lost a whole bunch of weight since then -- it may be fixable through alterations, but the suit looks awfully baggy on me now.

Hurting 2, Monday, 9 July 2007 23:32 (eighteen years ago)

you'd rip my jeans off? what?

cutty, Monday, 9 July 2007 23:35 (eighteen years ago)

do your linen pants have an nice tie string? do you wear tevas with that?

cutty, Monday, 9 July 2007 23:36 (eighteen years ago)

you'd rip my jeans off? what?

rofl

admrl, Monday, 9 July 2007 23:38 (eighteen years ago)

;)

cutty, Monday, 9 July 2007 23:48 (eighteen years ago)

do these "wise investment" $200 pants tan my legs? Build up muscle? Do my taxes and bring my wife to climax?

Granny Dainger, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 00:06 (eighteen years ago)

Why, are you having trouble with those things?

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 00:14 (eighteen years ago)

I know, it hurts, but it's really not so crazy to spend as much on a great pair of trousers as you would on, like, a game console. Even if you only manage to wear them 200 times in their entire life with you, that's like getting up in the morning and paying a dollar to look awesome all day.

nabisco, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 00:19 (eighteen years ago)

You are insane, all of you.

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 00:38 (eighteen years ago)

do your linen pants have an nice tie string? do you wear tevas with that?

No, they have a button and a zipper. One pair even has TWO buttons.

I never wear sandals (or Tevas or whatever you want to call them). It's either shoes or no shoes.

the table is the table, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 01:07 (eighteen years ago)

I wore bible-ish sandals today with my jeans, but only because it was fucking HOT

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 01:08 (eighteen years ago)

For footwear, I wear Vans (or generic brand) slip-ons (ie boat shoes) or Eccos. Right now, the latter look like this:
http://www2.ecco.com/ss2007/products/large/3806400160.jpg

I got them just as the summer started, tho, so haven't had much chance to wear them out.

the table is the table, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 01:15 (eighteen years ago)

u need to hit up the kenneth cole homie

deej, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 04:02 (eighteen years ago)

those eccos look like gabbneb shoes

deej, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 04:03 (eighteen years ago)

gabbneb shoes is the new A-shoes

cutty, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 04:04 (eighteen years ago)

The problem with Adult Male clothes is that, even though I could probably afford it, they always look so dull... Grey and black and beige and white seem to be the only colour options. I love bright colours and stripes and patterns, why are they considered verboten for adult guys? This is one thing I'm jealous of with girls and women, they have a much wider scale of looks they can choose from.

In Barcelona I saw this totally great looking suit, it was electric blue and shiny, like it was made for a glam schlager singer, but unfortunately it was a bit too expensive for my travel budget.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 10:36 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm very much a color guy, too. As many as I can get away with while still tying everything together, but not in a garish fashion. I'm very particular about making sure the uppermost article (hat? shirt? jacket?) matches the lowermost (shoes!), anything between is fair game.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 18:35 (eighteen years ago)

five months pass...

AND LOOK, IT'S...FARACHI

-- Hurting 2, Sunday, July 8, 2007 3:53 AM

5 am lolz

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 30 December 2007 11:46 (eighteen years ago)

six years pass...

something in me will never accept that 'slacks' count as dressed up, 'jeans' do not

why is that fabric a more respectable fabric, why

j., Wednesday, 9 July 2014 21:07 (eleven years ago)

it's because jeans are a symbol of individualism, which is the main thing that school and workplace dresscodes attempt to squash.

Treeship, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 21:22 (eleven years ago)

in some dress codes they, along with graphic t-shirts, are the only taboo left. you could wear camo cargo shorts at my prep school. obviously these rules are not about respectability or neatness but about suppressing jeans. on a related note, the most individualistic kind of jeans you can wear are JNCOs.

Treeship, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 21:26 (eleven years ago)

it's fucking hot & i just want to wear shorts to work but i don't want to cause an uproar

guwop (crüt), Wednesday, 9 July 2014 21:27 (eleven years ago)


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