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'morbid fear one hates to have' is hardly cryptic at all tbh, not a good clue in that overthinking it would put you off imo

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 21:46 (thirteen years ago) link

singularly heavy blow- CONKERS BABY

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link

"given in embarrassment" though? These are horrible, btw.

ailsa, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Nice work on vaare.

rttfuryypuvan is outstanding work - how is anyone supposed to get that? I kept looking to make 'Peter Rabbit'

Gravel Puzzleworth, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 21:49 (thirteen years ago) link

boryvfx - term for a piece of kit one kept in the lower half of a compositors type case.

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link

(They're from the Daily Telegraph 1986 fwiw)

What is 'one hates to have' doing, though? I agree it could be nothing.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

given the answers, and google, it's quite easy to pick these apart- but if i'd been looking at them all weekend they'd prob have driven me soft.

tho, tbh, i think i would have gotten the first one.

crosaire, btw, is doable online at www.irishtimes.com, the unmatched (imo) king of the art.

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Aye, it's a punctuation mark

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagger_(typography)

xposts again

ailsa, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow - nice knowledge on boryvfx - I didn't even know what a compositor was.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link

one hates to have- just clumsy imo, wouldn't kill myself worrying about it once i'd filled in the letters

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link

GOOGLE mayne, google!

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Are these all done apart from #3 now?

Gravel Puzzleworth, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Haha I used google on formosan aggression, then I still couldn't do it :(

Everyone agrees it's wrong to google when you're actually doing the thing, right?

Gravel Puzzleworth, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link

'given in embarrassment'

quite simply- none of my dictionaries and none of my brain cells and none of my internets can suggest even a single half-plausible explanatino for the remaining piece of this clue

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah googling is prob frowned upon while doing, tho perfectly acceptable after you've gotten it- else how d'you learn sure?

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I really can't make #3 work, I can sort of make bits of the clue bit fit, but not the whole thing, and not convincingly.

ailsa, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link

i guess you must 'hate' as a necessary condition of 'having' the third one- ?

though i would be much happier with 'fear' over hate, and that's already in the clue so slapdash at best imo

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 22:01 (thirteen years ago) link

ie you must hate *something* to have a phobia

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 22:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I have learned the word "emderatology" today though, which is nice.

xpost you can have a phobia without hatred though, so misdefinition just to give a double non-cryptic clue is totally misleading and wrong. There must be more to it than that. Where's the rest of the contributors to this thread when you need them?

ailsa, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 22:03 (thirteen years ago) link

i google

thomp, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link

araucaria or ximes had a quote about how the solver ought to be permitted 'a reasonable shelf of reference works'. eh. also, you know, sometimes you have PSALMANUGGLE or something and just need to go 'is this really the name of an extinct marsupial or am i wrong'

thomp, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link

btw, cryptics are the one thing I miss since I stopped buying print newspapers, but not enough to actually buy a book of puzzles or print any off or whatever, so I do love this thread very much indeed.

ailsa, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link

i treat it like scrabble rules (at least the scrabble rules at my house)- it goes in, in ink, before you get to check. no further stabs if wrong, and it stands forever as admonition

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.irishtimes.com/games/crosswords/

ailsa, no excuses

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link

<3

ailsa, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link

hmm wait it's asking for a login? never used to.

maybe i can get one.......

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link

ACtually, the one I'm doing is kind of shit. but thanks, is good to get the practice back in.

ailsa, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link

there's one you can do without logging in

ailsa, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link

well ok, but there used to be a trove. i think a mate may have a login but mods may have issues with me posting it or not?

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 22:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Off to bed now - thanks for the help! More tomorrow I fear.

Outstanding clues:

Writer's well after visit - Theo left to think positive (6)
Morbid fear one hates to have (6)
A singularly heavy blow given in embarrassment (4)

Answers:
vaxcbg
cubovn
bare

rot13er: http://www.faqintosh.com/risorse/en/othutil/webapps/rot13/

Gravel Puzzleworth, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:03 (thirteen years ago) link

writer's well- obvious. theo's left to think positive- will work on this bit!

morbid fears- yeah, unsatisfactory answer but i think this is just a bad clue.

bare- the single strike (think conker here for me) is clear- i've also tried linking 'embarrassment' with the 'heavy duty' aspect of the word, but no dice there.

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link

inkpot

theo's left to think positive

th ink eo pot

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link

ok

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link

the o's left to think positive

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link

hmm maybe something there?

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link

i'll just get a pencil shall i? :)

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I've got as far as thINKPOsitive, but it's not really working out for me much after that.

Yeah, single strike fine on those grounds, but again, not so much thereafter for me either. Can't even work out where to start.

xposts, yeah, something like that.

ailsa, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link

araucaria or ximes had a quote about how the solver ought to be permitted 'a reasonable shelf of reference works'. eh. also, you know, sometimes you have PSALMANUGGLE or something and just need to go 'is this really the name of an extinct marsupial or am i wrong'

those kind of things should be kept for listener-type xwords imo. araucaria annoyed me today with a word for hartebeest which actually means wildebeest, except in some 200 year old taxonomy.

no, you're dead right, it's a macaroon (ledge), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link

oh come on, who hasn't gotten wildebeest/hartebeest mixed up lately? hot topic imo

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:31 (thirteen years ago) link

xxp you're forgetting the 'visit'.

no, you're dead right, it's a macaroon (ledge), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link

to think positive - theo visit = inkpot.

no, you're dead right, it's a macaroon (ledge), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:35 (thirteen years ago) link

leaves us with 'poe' from positive....

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:35 (thirteen years ago) link

ha!

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:35 (thirteen years ago) link

ok motivated to revisit the others now

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link

(sterling work btw)

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link

there a word for 'shame' with 'oner' in the middle?

no, you're dead right, it's a macaroon (ledge), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link

i think the phobia = hate thing is right - e.g. xenophobia, homophobia, generally manifest as hate not fear.

no, you're dead right, it's a macaroon (ledge), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link

dis oner

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Well done ledge.

I have been failing to find synonyms for embarrassment with "oner" in the middle for some time now, but I totally misread the inkpot one, so I don't trust my own judgement any more.

ailsa, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm gonna investigate as to whether as 'oner' orginated as a debt of shame? seems the most promising lead (working backwards from onerous)

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link


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