Life without television: how do people do it?

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...assuming they actually do. I run across a surprising number of people who claim they don't own one.

But given that EVERYTHING is available on DVD now, and downloads starting to trickle out, this seems more feasible then ever.

Mitya (mitya), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 11:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I could do it easily

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 11:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I have a tv but it hasnt been on for two months or so

splates (splates), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 11:43 (eighteen years ago) link

didn't we have this thread last week?

mies van der rohffle (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 11:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I claim not to own one. I've still managed to watch Extras, Nathan Barley, Peep Show, The Mighty Boosh, The West Wing and Life in the Undergrowth during the past month. Lovely lovely DVD.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 11:44 (eighteen years ago) link

people nowadays pass the time by looking for old threads despite the search function being fucked up

I have decided to give up watching television

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 11:46 (eighteen years ago) link

They spend their masturbating in front of babies.

James Ward (jamesmichaelward), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 11:52 (eighteen years ago) link


There is no discernible difference between watching TV and watching DVDs, except the latter means you can feel smug about not watching TV.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 12:10 (eighteen years ago) link

OTMarkelby!!!!!!

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 12:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, buying half a dozen DVD boxsets a year must come to more than £126.50, no?

James Ward (jamesmichaelward), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 12:12 (eighteen years ago) link

My gran doesn't have a TV. She gave it away about two decades ago? I can't remember when exactly. She copes just fine but she's obvously clueless about a lot of things (like the news...).

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 13:02 (eighteen years ago) link

how do people watch DVDs without a TV? (computer?)

in that case I spent 3 years of uni without a TV (because i watched Quincy with my computer's TV tuner instead)

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 13:05 (eighteen years ago) link

or do people watch DVDs literally, like, stare at it for 90 minutes?

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 13:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Well obviously I don't BUY DVDs, that's silly. And yes I watch them on my computer.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 13:06 (eighteen years ago) link

TV tuner also meant TV licence dude never got me. despite me having a TV aerial stuck outside my hall window. er...

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 13:07 (eighteen years ago) link

It's weird, I don't think I've ever met anyone that didn't have a TV who was smug about it, it seems to be entirely projection by Mark other people :)

I am happy not to have a TV, because I don't have to watch adverts, but I don't think I'm smug.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 13:09 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't have a tv. i don't want to own one ever again! it's easy. it's harder to get off the internet, though. also, i'm not smug, i just don't have one because i don't want one.

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 13:10 (eighteen years ago) link

tv's gay

anal cunt (bato), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 13:14 (eighteen years ago) link

you're right about that

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 13:15 (eighteen years ago) link

I now own a tv, for longwinded reasons, but I don't watch tv on it. I download tv. It's ideal.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 13:17 (eighteen years ago) link

that's the thing though, i wouldn't even download tv. sometimes my friends want to watch tv show episodes on dvd and i just can't pay attention to them. even tv shows that i think are good! i don't know. i don't feel motivated to watch tv.

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 13:22 (eighteen years ago) link

TV's great

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 13:24 (eighteen years ago) link

there is no tv in our flat and i don't really miss it; in my last flat all i really watched were things like lost (which i inevitably lost track of after about five episodes anyway). i've never got into the habit of watching whatever's on, apart from when i had music channels.

i'll get edgy around wimbledon time without a tv though.

i don't download tv shows either because a) i don't know how to and b) we don't have the internet at home. i still have that dvd stevem made me of various lost episodes, and still haven't figured out how to play it yet.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 13:26 (eighteen years ago) link

tv doesn't necessarily mean you're gay. you just like to dress up as the opposite sex.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 13:27 (eighteen years ago) link

you don't have a DVD player -- stop thinking about it

crosspost

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 13:28 (eighteen years ago) link

rather than tape things i now download em - it's simpler and usually downloads in about the same time that the show takes to air. i did this with peep show last night when the repeat was on late on e/more/4 and couldn't be arsed setting up the VCR.

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 13:29 (eighteen years ago) link

british tv would be improved if they had some comedy based on men wearing dresses

bato (bato), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link

where do you download these from?

xpost

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 13:31 (eighteen years ago) link

have you seen eddie izzard?

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 13:32 (eighteen years ago) link

or Les Dawson?

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 13:32 (eighteen years ago) link

i lost my UK Nova account :(

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 13:34 (eighteen years ago) link

curiosity had me looking up the TV licensing website just now. Did you know, if you're blind you can get a blind concession license!! it's 50% off the full licence fee.

How much does it cost?
The blind concession is 50% off the full TV Licence fee, so you'll pay £63.25 for a colour licence and £21.00 for a black and white TV Licence.

you have to actually pay more for a colour licence even though you're blind.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 13:35 (eighteen years ago) link

You managed to lose an account with an illegal organisation, Steve? You must have done something REALLY bad.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 13:48 (eighteen years ago) link

or really good

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 13:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I lost mine too, from not using it enough :(

melton mowbray (adr), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 13:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I can barely live without a television for a few waking hours, so I don't understand how people do it long-term.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 13:57 (eighteen years ago) link

(from GUARDIAN UNLIMITED THIS MORNING)

Media: A Davina McCall chatshow and new dramas from Stephen Poliakoff, Tony Marchant...the highlights of the BBC1 winter/spring line-up

its easier than u think believe me. haven't had regular bbc/ itv / c4 etc tv since may 2004. it's been ace.

piscesboy, Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Mark and Ken, I did nothing, that was the problem.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I would be sad if I couldn't watch HIGNFY, QI, Mighty Boosh etc, but that's what UKNova's for, I guess. The problem comes with the TV thing - even if you don't have an aerial and only use the telly to play Xbox, you still need a license, which sucks.

I haven't downloaded for UKNova for a bit, but I'm still uploading. Are they gonna throw me out?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:06 (eighteen years ago) link

speaking of bbc licence evasion, the licencing department of the bbc is suing the *empty* flat next to mine for not having a licence. (old owners moved out 2 months ago and obviously cancelled theirs, bbc keeps writing to 'the occupants' demanding they get a new one. last letter was one warning that legal action was being taken).

> british tv would be improved if they had some comedy based on men wearing dresses

heh heh heh!

> The problem comes with the TV thing - even if you don't have an aerial and only use the telly to play Xbox, you still need a license, which sucks.

this isn't true. but getting the bbc to believe you is usually harder than paying the licence fee anyway - see above.

koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh god the licensing bods are useless. It's like banging your head against a brick wall, trying to tell them to STOP SENDING THREATENING LETTERS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A TV.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I’m not a massive TV watcher, bit i do like to watch the things i watch on something bigger than a 14" monitor.

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh noooo, there's a HUGE difference between watching things on TV at their scheduled times and watching DVDs instead, primarily the fact that DVD episodes aren't interrupted by COMMERCIALS every TWELVE MINUTES (or however long the standard is). Do you have any idea how much I hate TV ads? The pacing and obnoxiousness and everything stupid about them just overloads me and I get fidgety, cranky, my attention span falls, etc. They make me feel horrible, although I usually mute them and read another few pages of book until show comes back on. Still, with DVDs there's no interruption at all!

Also, you can pause a DVD to go have a cig/make more cocoa/pee/answer the phone/etc.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Wikipedia tells me that:

The Wireless Telegraphy (Television Licence Fees) Regulations 1991 gives the following definition:

* The following class or description of television receiving apparatus is hereby specified for the purposes of the definition of "television receiver" in the Wireless Telegraphy Act 1949[5], namely such apparatus installed or used for the purpose of receiving television programme services, as defined by section 2(4) of the Broadcasting Act 1990, whether or not the apparatus is installed or used for other purposes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_license#Notes

which sounds awful ambiguous to me.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:00 (eighteen years ago) link

If you use a TV or any other device to receive or record TV programmes (for example, a VCR, set-top box, DVD recorder or PC with a broadcast card) - you need a TV Licence. - TV Licensing website

so... 'use' not 'have'.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Watching television makes you depressed.

Gatinha (rwillmsen), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:22 (eighteen years ago) link

It doesn't make me depressed.

James Ward (jamesmichaelward), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link

one nation
under God
has turned into
one nation under the influence
of one drug

[chorus:]
Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
(2x)

T.V., it
satellite links
our United States of Unconsciousness
Apathetic therapeutic and extremely addictive
The methadone metronome pumping out
150 channels 24 hours a day
you can flip through all of them
and still there's nothing worth watching
T.V. is the reason why less than 10 per cent of our
Nation reads books daily
Why most people think Central Amerika
means Kansas
Socialism means unamerican
and Apartheid is a new headache remedy
absorbed in it's world it's so hard to find us
It shapes our mind the most
maybe the mother of our Nation
should remind us
that we're sitting too close to...

[Chorus:]
Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
(2x)

T.V. is
the stomping ground for political candidates
Where bears in the woods
are chased by Grecian Formula'd
bald eagles
T.V. is mechanized politic's
remote control over the masses
co-sponsored by environmentally safe gases
watch for the PBS special
It's the perpetuation of the two party system
where image takes precedence over wisdom
Where sound bite politics are served to
the fastfood culture
Where straight teeth in your mouth
are more important than the words
that come out of it
Race baiting is the way to get selected
Willie Horton or
Will he not get elected on...

[Chorus:]
Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
(2x)

T.V., is it the reflector or the director?
Does it imitate us
or do we imitate it
because a child watches 1500 murders before he's
twelve years old and we wonder why we've created
a Jason generation that learns to laugh
rather than to abhor the horror
T.V. is the place where
armchair generals and quarterbacks can
experience first hand
the excitement of warfare
as the theme song is sung in the background
Sugar sweet sitcoms
that leave us with a bad actor taste while
pop stars metamorphosize into soda pop stars
You saw the video
You heard the soundtrack
Well now go buy the soft drink
Well, the onla cola that I support
would be a union C.O.L.A.(Cost Of Living Allowance)
On television

[Chorus:]
Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
(2x)

Back again, "New and improved"
We return to our irregularly programmed schedule
hidden cleverly between heavy breasted
beer and car commercials
CNNESPNABCTNT but mostly B.S.
Where oxymoronic language like
"virtually spotless", "fresh frozen"
"light yet filling" and "military intelligence"
have become standard
T.V. is the place where phrases are redefined
like "recession" to "necessary downturn"
"Crude oil" on a beach to "mousse"
"Civilian death" to "collateral damages"
and being killed by your own Army
is now called "friendly fire"
T.V. is the place where the pursuit
of happiness has become the pursuit of
trivia
Where toothpaste and cars have become
sex objects
Where imagination is sucked out of children
by a cathode ray nipple
T.V. is the only wet nurse
that would create a cripple

[Chorus:]
Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
(4x)

piscesboy, Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Laurel I guess that's one good thing about the TV licence fee we pay because that means BBC doesn't have commercials.

although that doesn't cater for pausing etc. there are now also video on demand services here that you can choose programs to watch when you want and also pause and stuff.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh the BBC SO has commercials. For itself. They seem to be on all the time, on the occasions when I do see a television.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:44 (eighteen years ago) link

tv is better downloaded

kingfish trampycakes (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link

"The Internet is intersecting with TV the way the car intersected with the horse!!" - some internet dodo in 1996

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:11 (eighteen years ago) link

The UK is the world leader in terms of downloading television illegally. Go team UK!

James Ward (jamesmichaelward), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link

All you downloader folks... are you actually watching this on proper Sony television sets? Or on little herky-jerky computer screens?

andy --, Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:13 (eighteen years ago) link

i watch mine thru a ca.-1998 sony video projector. it's a little bluish but otherwise it's great.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:14 (eighteen years ago) link

herky-jerky?

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link

just make sure no babies are about at the time

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Since the early 80s I've watched TV very rarely, only at other people's houses, and always (with one exception) at their suggestion. I own one, but it's one of those crappy combo-VCR things and I don't have the reception hooked up. I have very little interest in television,* no grand thoughts about it as a cultural force or whatever, and no problem with anyone else watching it; my own (considerable) time-wasting is done on the internet instead, is all. When I read about the Daily Show and the Stephen Colbert thing they sound fun, but basically the whole medium is just "meh" to me. The YWCA has these huge TVs eternally tuned to CNN and closed-captioned, but I don't really watch 'em when I'm in there.

Problems caused by not watching TV:

1. Dealing with the assumption that such an aberrant lifestyle choice means that I must be a terrific snob. I don't exactly go around booming "HEY I DON'T WATCH TV!" at new acquaintances, coworkers, etc., and in fact try to avoid the subject as much as possible, but

2. about 70% of the references in most jocular workplace conversation must be patiently explained to me if I am to understand what is being discussed at all.


* I have seen every episode of Strangers With Candy on VHS and DVD, courtesy of a friend who is a big fan of it, and for this I am grateful. Randomly-caught episodes of Simpsons, South Park, and Aqua Teen Hunger Force have also been fun.

xero (xero), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I wasn't allowed to watch much TV as a kid. Went through a cable TV phase in my early 20s, and don't currently have cable or an antenna right now. I do however rent entire seasons of shows from N*tfl*x, and download stuff that isn't out on DVD yet. Whoever wrote those lyrics pasted above obviously wrote them before HBO started wreckin' shit with its original series.

recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:26 (eighteen years ago) link

The majority of my friends don't watch TV either, so I don't have to deal with the whole snob/elitist crap. The biggest problems caused by not watching TV are avoiding spoilers for shows I like.

recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link

i have a TV but no cable or even rabbit ears. i watched a lot of TV when i was in college and i think i burned out on it. also, i don't like it when friends can't go out because they have to sit at home and watch a couple of shows. tivo, people!

gear (gear), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link

No telly (or really, even that much room for one) at my house (although, the World Cup is coming up, so things might have to change), and I also don't have my computer there at the moment... and even if I did, there's no internet!

You'd think this would lead to me getting more done around the house, but you'd be wrong.

Sasha (sgh), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:49 (eighteen years ago) link

if i watched tv all the time i would never have time to do anything else! where do you live, you tv people? (haha actually the tv is on RIGHT NOW but it's because the david shrigley animation thing was on an hour ago and we wanted to see its tv debut. no one's watching it but no one's switched it off... there is a creepy-looking animation on it now with sniggering silhouettes with deathteeth and burning cities in it so i'm not gonna turn it off cos it's sort of gently disturbing and i quite like that. i dunno what was on in between though...)

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 02:09 (eighteen years ago) link

I hadn't had a TV for a few years and a friend gave me one so I could watch movies on it. I haven't gotten a DVD player yet so the TV's there. Whenever I try watching it, the required shortness of attention span drives me crazy. I don't know how anyone can stand it. And ads! The horror! The horror! I don't have cable or an antenna, so I can't really surf around much (I have to get up and adjust the rabbit ears), but watching the individual shows, I'm amazed how annoying and idiotic they are -maybe I wouldn't notice if I could watch five or six at once, but it wouldn't make them any better. Sometimes I don't understand what people are talking about, but it's not usually anything they care much about either. Here in the US the TV news is last place you'll ever find out about anything, so I haven't ended up being ill-informed. When I'm at other people's places and the TV is on, I can't take my eyes off of it.

steve ketchup, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 04:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Steve OTM -- I've been Tv-less for probably five years now, and the longer I'm away, the harder I find it to watch. Aside from the shortness of attention span, the fact that it seems nary a half-hour goes by without something that seems designed to make the viewer feel bad about themselves in some way.

Having a TV for DVD purposes is very much not the same thing.

Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 05:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Steve and Abbadabba both deeply OTM.

the required shortness of attention span drives me crazy

So true!

When I'm at other people's places and the TV is on, I can't take my eyes off of it

It exerts a powerful fascination, doesn't it? Commercials I find especially bizarre and entrancing and horrifying.

Another effect of basically not having watched TV since like 1982: when I do see some I'm continually startled by the IN YOUR FUCKING FACE language, violence, and sex now common on network TV. ("Startled" != "offended," necessarily.) And cable, forget it -- seeing one episode of a dating show on MTV while in a hotel last fall left me weirded out and mildly depressed about it for days.

nary a half-hour goes by without something that seems designed to make the viewer feel bad about themselves in some way

OTM, but I think I'd change "a half-hour" to "five minutes."

xero (xero), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 08:45 (eighteen years ago) link

i read some place that Australia just edges out the UK in terms of telly downloading

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 10:51 (eighteen years ago) link

The bastards! Quick everyone download something, we can't let them win!

James Ward (jamesmichaelward), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 10:56 (eighteen years ago) link

>> Oh god the licensing bods are useless. It's like banging your head against a brick wall, trying to tell them to STOP SENDING THREATENING LETTERS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A TV.
-- Archel (slightlyfoxe...), December 6th, 2005 2:26 PM. (Archel) (later)

This is OTFM. My previous flat was too small for a TV so we just watched DVDs/mpgs on the PC instead. Had people come round threatening search warrants and all sorts. We let them in, and they actually said it wouldn't make any difference that they'd been round and seen we had no TV, because the licensing org wouldn't believe it anyway. Basically they continued to send the letters until we moved out. We have a TV now so are licensed and don't have to deal with them any more, but what a bunch of cunts.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 11:13 (eighteen years ago) link

how often do they send the letters? they can't be all that threatening if you don't have a tv.

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 11:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, we didn't actually feel threatened, cos yeah we had no TV and were therefore innocent of any wrongdoing, and the letters mostly just ended up unopened in the bin. They sent them pretty regularly, every couple of weeks I think.

I think I was more concerned about having to deal with people turning up with search warrants while I was having a spliff or something.

It's just a bit ridiculous that they won't consider the possibility that you don't in fact own a television!

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 11:26 (eighteen years ago) link

i think the ratio of ppl who claim to not have a telly to ppl who really NO don't have a telly is quite high, like on the order of 10:1 or something

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 11:55 (eighteen years ago) link

i mean claim to the licensing ppl, not just generally like on this thread.

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 11:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Eat the telly !!

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 12:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Top 10 ways to deny TV Licence TV Search People access:

1. "I don't think you're ready for this Telly"

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 12:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I hadn't had a TV for a few years and a friend gave me one so I could watch movies on it. I haven't gotten a DVD player yet so the TV's there. Whenever I try watching it, the required shortness of attention span drives me crazy. I don't know how anyone can stand it. And ads! The horror! The horror! I don't have cable or an antenna, so I can't really surf around much (I have to get up and adjust the rabbit ears), but watching the individual shows, I'm amazed how annoying and idiotic they are -maybe I wouldn't notice if I could watch five or six at once, but it wouldn't make them any better. Sometimes I don't understand what people are talking about, but it's not usually anything they care much about either. Here in the US the TV news is last place you'll ever find out about anything, so I haven't ended up being ill-informed. When I'm at other people's places and the TV is on, I can't take my eyes off of it.

Uh, that makes it bad? You just forgot TV language. It's like learning a new language: you just have to adapt to it. I'm sorry, I just don't agree with your stance.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 12:19 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

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and what, Sunday, 19 October 2008 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link

would be way harder to give up the net than tv. i maybe watch 2 or 3 full programs a week, now. used to watch shitloads as a kid, tho.

stone cold all time hall of fame classics (internet person), Sunday, 19 October 2008 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link


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