what does it mean if you're seriously tempted to cheat on your long distance girlfriend?

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dating a year and a half, long distance for the last six months, we see each other every other week. i don't want to hurt her, but i dunno, maybe i'm feeling a little scared about commitment and the possibility of not having sex with anyone else for the rest of my life. it may not help that girlfriend has been cheated on and hurt in the past and so is super-paranoid about cheating. but she is so constantly good to me that i would have to be a totally heartless prick to do anything to hurt her.

things were fine until an absolutely beautiful woman started hitting on me the other night and suddenly i realized i actively wanted to cheat. like, planning strategies in my head to meet up with this woman without my girlfriend finding out. i even started wishing my girlfriend wasn't coming to town this weekend, which is really fucked up.

even putting this so coldly in print triggers shame and self-loathing. i guess i'm not officially a grade-a asshole unless i actually do it, but honestly a huge part of me wants to cheat and that seems the biggest betrayal right there. does this mean my relationship is doomed? am i doomed?

cheetah, Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:58 (eighteen years ago) link

it means break-up, retard.

dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Friday, 2 December 2005 00:03 (eighteen years ago) link

you're dumb for thinking a ldr would work in the first place

howell huser (chaki), Friday, 2 December 2005 00:03 (eighteen years ago) link

high-fives

dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Friday, 2 December 2005 00:04 (eighteen years ago) link

It means you're horny. Don't worry about it unless you actually make moves to cheat, at which point you should try masturbating.

Dan (Bingo) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 2 December 2005 00:04 (eighteen years ago) link

down-low...


too slow.

howell huser (chaki), Friday, 2 December 2005 00:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Not doing this is good.

Overcoming weaselly urges is kinda almost noble, as much as not having them maybe.

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Friday, 2 December 2005 00:05 (eighteen years ago) link

seriously though duder, if you're honestly writing things like "i'm a little afraid of commitment" and "i worry about not having sex with anyone else in my life," you're probably not ready for a relationship at the moment, especially a long-distance one.

dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Friday, 2 December 2005 00:08 (eighteen years ago) link

how "long distance" is this star-crossed romance?

gear (gear), Friday, 2 December 2005 00:10 (eighteen years ago) link

"she's in Elmira, i'm in Binghamton"

gear (gear), Friday, 2 December 2005 00:11 (eighteen years ago) link

if they can see each other every other week it cant be too long

dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Friday, 2 December 2005 00:11 (eighteen years ago) link

basically someone getting sex on the reg, even every other week...well, i dont want to hear your bitchin

dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Friday, 2 December 2005 00:12 (eighteen years ago) link

If you think you might really go through with it, break up with her first. Trust me on this one.

Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 2 December 2005 00:13 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost

and suddenly i realized i actively wanted to cheat

yo, er, you seem to have made your mind up. what do you want: ILX's collective blessing?

it's your call, but it sounds to me like something's gone awry with your relationship if one pretty girl making eyes at you can reduce you to this state. so you've got two choices: work out what, and fix it, or finish the relationship.

but FFS, dude, for the sake of your poor girlfriend, don't cheat on her. some people can deal with that; she doesn't sound like one of them. either way, do the decent thing: finish with her 'cos you're no longer into it, or be doing some long, hard thinkin' and fixin'.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 2 December 2005 00:17 (eighteen years ago) link

sorry dude, it's over. either you:

1. break up, explaining that she's great but that the long distance just isn't working
2. cheat on her (you suck)
3. don't cheat on her... now. but later on you either cheat on her or the stress destroys the relationship and you regret not hooking up with this one.

Mitya (mitya), Friday, 2 December 2005 00:18 (eighteen years ago) link

it seems mid distance relationships have their problems too

calderdale in the 70s (gareth), Friday, 2 December 2005 00:24 (eighteen years ago) link

as do minimal distance ones

jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Friday, 2 December 2005 00:25 (eighteen years ago) link

"advice is what we ask for when we already know the answer but wish we didn't", you cad.

(no offense, i totally empathize with your scenario. but you know the right thing to do.)

this is fun. i wonder just how many people will post reamings?

nein Socken (nein Socken), Friday, 2 December 2005 00:26 (eighteen years ago) link

human interaction fraught with complications shocker

dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Friday, 2 December 2005 00:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Beautiful women are a dime a dozen, truly caring relationships are not.

luna (luna.c), Friday, 2 December 2005 00:36 (eighteen years ago) link

things were fine until an absolutely beautiful woman started hitting on me

Isn't that always the way...

Long distance is really difficult. Really, really difficult. Two questions that matter: Why is this a long-distance relationship? How long will it be a long-distance relationship? (note: if the answer to either question is "I don't know;" you're fucked.)

If this relationship matters to you, then Dan is otm upthread. You're just horny. Girls are hot. Get over it. It's normal and healthy in an LDR to have fantasies, and even flirtations. It's hard to maintain a real connection to someone who's only occasionally around. You need to decide whether you can handle that or not. (As does your LDGF.)

Unless you're the kind of guy who feeds on continuous female affirmation, in which case your relationship would be fucked even if it were no-distance.

rogermexico (rogermexico), Friday, 2 December 2005 00:41 (eighteen years ago) link

you know how sometimes you pour a cup of coffee at like 7pm and you know you shouldnt be having caffeine that late in the day and you sort of pause for a second and doubt your actions then you add some cream and sugars and boy does it smell good and then you walk over to your desk and put the mug down next to you and then you pick it up a few times and have maybe a sip or two and then think wtf am i doing and so you walk back to the kitchen and empty the mug into the sink. well dont do that: either have the coffee forget about it and pay the price of not getting any sleep or dont even bother getting up going to the kitchen to begin with.

kephm (kephm), Friday, 2 December 2005 00:43 (eighteen years ago) link

my granny used to say this all the time

kephm (kephm), Friday, 2 December 2005 00:45 (eighteen years ago) link

You guys might be jumping on the break-up side way too hastily here. All the guy said is that some attractive woman hit on him and he started fantasizing scenarios for following up on it -- something that could just as easily happen with the girlfriend living across the street. So, so ... don't do anything about it! I mean yes, granted, the fact that you've gone so far as to post an ILX thread about your feelings of conflict probably isn't a good sign. But still: there's every chance you'll just get over this, every chance you just, duh, found the woman attractive, liked the attention, and wanted to have sex with her. If that's the case, good for you -- you'll at least have learned that you can be sexually tempted and be good enough to recognize that for what it is and ignore it. On the other hand, if you're seriously dwelling on this, getting all self-loathing about it, obsessing over your incredible desire to be with this other woman -- then yeah, that would be a sign that you're not that engaged with your actual relationship, something the girlfriend should (at the very least) be made aware of.

nabiscothingy, Friday, 2 December 2005 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

do you overthink everything?

dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Friday, 2 December 2005 01:05 (eighteen years ago) link

nitsuh i want a glass of water, but i might also want a glass of milk. 900 words please before i get my fat ass off the couch.

dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Friday, 2 December 2005 01:05 (eighteen years ago) link

have some pudding instead...that's the best of both worlds.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 2 December 2005 01:06 (eighteen years ago) link

see that's an answer i can follow

dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Friday, 2 December 2005 01:07 (eighteen years ago) link

(I'm still waiting for gear to show up and let us know he's been hanging with this girl since the summer, no big thing, every couple of weeks, and now it turns out there's some LDBF in the picture)

rogermexico (rogermexico), Friday, 2 December 2005 01:13 (eighteen years ago) link

As one half of a LDM (long distance marriage), I can say that, as trite as it sounds, a relationship is a choice you make every day. Once a certain level of trust and an understanding as to the parameters of that relationship are established (aka, no side action), you STILL have a choice every day. But if you make a choice to violate the foundation upon which that relationship has been built, there is little returning to the previous situation.
My wife and I both have VERY strong feelings about cheating in this regard - things don't "just happen".

As for your situation, its not that odd. You notice other women. Other women notice you. These things happen unless you try to make them not happen - not go out, become physically unattractive in every single way (very hard to do). The point being made throughout this thread, I think, is that you cannot take something external that is a relative constant to be a guage of your commitment, which is an internal thing. That's morally weak. Instead, determine why it is that you feel bad and/or weird about your interreactions, and get rid of that bad feeling.

So, as I am currently studying, my advised plan of attack:

1) If it is because you are simply having feelings that you are unused to having for someone other than your SO, be patient. New emotions ALWAYS feel odd. If these things continue to happen, or you have had them before and they are continuing to happen, see step 2.

2) If it is because you are afraid that you may do something and violate your SO's trust in you, you can either a) drop that trust as an obligation (break up) or b) don't violate the trust. If you are not afraid of cheating, see step 3.

3) If it is because you are horny, get porn. Porn is the savior of long-distance relationships.

Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Friday, 2 December 2005 01:24 (eighteen years ago) link

How the fuck is that "overthinking?" That's just a more diplomatic way of saying "if it's just that you want to fuck the hot chick, you can get over it; otherwise, you might have a problem."

I mean geez, WTF, is this anti-thinking day on ILX or something? That was only seven sentences! On the first relationship-question thread in ages that actually seems like it isn't made up! Apparently that and/or thinking Starship Troopers has subtext means you think you're Foucault or some shit.

nabiscothingy, Friday, 2 December 2005 01:35 (eighteen years ago) link

nitsuh otm

dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Friday, 2 December 2005 01:37 (eighteen years ago) link

RELENTLESSLY OTM

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 2 December 2005 01:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Starship Troopers, now that is some crap though, let's be honest here.

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Friday, 2 December 2005 02:15 (eighteen years ago) link

I mean geez, WTF, is this anti-thinking day on ILX or something?

yeah we decided to try being impulsive and unreasonable for a change

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:00 (eighteen years ago) link

you really shouldn't be cheating until you've been going out for a couple of years at least, that's what the Germans say.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, okay the grandmother of a German girl I know, and it was actually said at the girl's wedding.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:11 (eighteen years ago) link

It means you're horny. Don't worry about it unless you actually make moves to cheat, at which point you should try masturbating.

dan OTM. i'm not even gonna read the rest of the thread.

like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:41 (eighteen years ago) link

oh c'mon that nitsuh and me exchange is classic

dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Nitsuh and Me sounds like the premise for a bad buddy movie.

Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Apparently that and/or thinking Starship Troopers has subtext means you think you're Foucault or some shit.

-- nabiscothingy

Starship Troopers doesn't have a subtext? My mind is permanently blown. After 5 mins of that movie, I was thinking 'hmmm, this subtext is a bit in yer face, but hey I can get used to it'.

moley (moley), Friday, 2 December 2005 04:21 (eighteen years ago) link

literally everyone has been helpful in different ways. thanks.

for the record: i'm 3-4 hours away by car/bus/train. perhaps that's not long distance to some but surely it's at least mid distance?

fwiw right now i can't even imagine breaking up with her. for one thing, she'd be devastated.

i like starship troopers a lot. she hasn't seen it but probably wouldn't like it.

cheetah, Friday, 2 December 2005 04:28 (eighteen years ago) link

for one thing, she'd be devastated.

kinda OT but this alone is no reason not to break up with someone

jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Friday, 2 December 2005 04:29 (eighteen years ago) link

I think you should rip both these broads.

moley (moley), Friday, 2 December 2005 04:32 (eighteen years ago) link

i have been there. dont do it.

deee, Friday, 2 December 2005 04:32 (eighteen years ago) link

for the record: i'm 3-4 hours away by car/bus/train.

dude that's NOTHING

like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 2 December 2005 04:33 (eighteen years ago) link

it's only when you're tempted to cheat by the ugly ones that you should be hard on yourself.

oops (Oops), Friday, 2 December 2005 04:39 (eighteen years ago) link

haha you said "hard on"

like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 2 December 2005 04:58 (eighteen years ago) link

cheetah must be very happy with the quality of advice on this thread.

moley (moley), Friday, 2 December 2005 05:09 (eighteen years ago) link

this is pretty dumb. i live with my girlfriend and fantasize about having sex with practically every girl that's even just a little nice to me. but you control it. i managed to make it work in a long distance relationship, too. you're asking ilx to tell you to break up with your girlfriend. if, for whatever reason, you're not into it anymore, and you can't fathom anything that would change that, sure, go ahead break up with her. chances are you'll regret it in a couple weeks or months or something, you'd get over that unless she's the proverbial one of course. there's nothing wrong with getting out of a relationship that you're just not into, when everything should be working. but on the other hand, if you're expecting this to work out so that you actually wind up with the girl that was hitting on you, good luck, but it probably won't happen.

that being said, there's been times that i've wanted to cheat just for the sake of seeing what it's like. that involves actively wishing that my relationship wasn't as solid as it is, so that i could justify doing it. what does that say about me?

firstworldman (firstworldman), Friday, 2 December 2005 05:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Try for a three way.

blowin in the wind, Friday, 2 December 2005 05:36 (eighteen years ago) link


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