Yep, what James said!
― ksh, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 22:58 (fourteen years ago) link
imo stuff like this makes a good case for Gawker being on some bullshit in not even giving a fair amount of credit/attribution/linkage to the old media they siphon most of their content from (and usually dumb down or sensationalize in the process): http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/31/AR2009073102476.html
― Krusty Burgerizer (some dude), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 22:59 (fourteen years ago) link
that said i sure do miss the gawker media checks i was getting on the reg for a while there and i def look at their various sites, albeit not all the time
― Krusty Burgerizer (some dude), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 23:00 (fourteen years ago) link
xp that Post article is depressing as hell, but not for the Gawker writer
newspapers should really act more like gawker, that an editor at a major newspaper still think links are stealing is scary
― Popper, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 23:43 (fourteen years ago) link
it's not "scary", but rewriting other people's work -- which is what gawker (and othee mnstrm blogs) does above all else -- isn't anything to brag about.
― the archetypal ghetto hustler (history mayne), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 00:07 (fourteen years ago) link
probably a majority of newspaper writing is rewriting other people's work, and at least gawker tries to add jokes.
― joe, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 00:12 (fourteen years ago) link
say it ain't so, joe
― lmfao @ credulity (velko), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 00:38 (fourteen years ago) link
it ain't so
^^^ cut and pasted that from velko's post, depriving him of revenue
― joe, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 00:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Gruber wrote a decent commentary about full-text RSS feeds just a couple days ago.
If you’ve got a model where revenue is tied only to web page views, switching to full-content RSS feeds will hurt, at least in the short term. The problem, I say, isn’t with full-content RSS feeds, but rather with a business model that hinges solely on web page views. The precious commodity that we, as publishers, have to offer advertisers is the attention of our readers. Web page views are a terribly inaccurate, if not outright misleading, metric for attention. Subscribers to a full-content RSS feed are among the readers paying the most attention, but generate among the least web page views.A reader asking for a full-content RSS feed is a reader who wants to pay more attention to what you publish. There have to be ways to thrive financially from that.
A reader asking for a full-content RSS feed is a reader who wants to pay more attention to what you publish. There have to be ways to thrive financially from that.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 00:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Tries is the operative word here.
― ô_o (Nicole), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 00:44 (fourteen years ago) link
For those who want their full-content feed back:
http://twitter.com/nicknotned/status/10241832261
― ksh, Tuesday, March 9, 2010 5:58 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
thank u ksh, owe you one
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 00:49 (fourteen years ago) link
― joe, Tuesday, March 9, 2010 7:12 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this is a pretty dumb thing to say since what i linked was a concrete example of a print writer doing a lot of research and interviews the old-fashioned way, and explaining one of the things happening that's making it much less possible for writers to put that kind of work in (and, like, get paid for it) in the future.
― Krusty Burgerizer (some dude), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 01:33 (fourteen years ago) link
content that involves doing a lot of research and interviews the old-fashioned way is indeed v valuable and praise worthy - its also represents a tiny fraction of what actually gets published - a lot of what does get published is rewriting w/o attribution other outlets news stories -until the washpost et al cio themselves they should stfu
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 02:59 (fourteen years ago) link
the reaction is still scary, not from the reporter, he can feel deflated because he's unlikely to make any extra money from the publicity (although the gawker guy would have from a link) but for an editor to think that gawker's way of doing things isn't analogous of internet usage in general. this is what i don't get, it's like the internet operates best in a certain way and then editors expect it to act like it should all be printed out tomorrow and sold in a newsagent
― Popper, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.observer.com/2010/media/alex-pareene-leaving-gawker-join-salon
― ksh, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link
dope -- pareene is consistently great
― goon with the wind (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Wait, he's only 24?
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link
i had the same thought, Ned
― ksh, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, all those Gawk dudes are mad young and make me feel like a total failure tbh
― pencil island (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link
john cook too?
hmm, they have kind of lost their best two writers there
― yella card THIS, yatches (history mayne), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link
age ain't nothing but a number WGW
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Well more like I'm calculating back how young he would have been when he was first on here. Which I guess isn't too surprising.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link
how do you even get a job at 19. i'm confused.
― goon with the wind (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link
<3<3<3
― wears suburban hang-ups on her sleeve like some kind of corporate logo (daria-g), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link
awesome <3
I do like his writing far better than Ana Marie Cox's, whom he took over Wonkette from. She retained too much of the suck.com hipster nihilism.
― requiem for crunk (kingfish), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link
he should post more imo
― pencil island (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link
well i guess im adding the salon war room to my google reader list
― max, Thursday, 8 April 2010 02:52 (fourteen years ago) link
http://gawker.com/5521236/the-definitive-guide-to-alex-pareene
― ksh, Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Why is Gawker so popular? The writing?
― kshighway (ksh), Monday, January 11, 2010
― velko, Thursday, 22 April 2010 05:08 (fourteen years ago) link
:-)
― ksh, Thursday, 22 April 2010 05:09 (fourteen years ago) link
i think it's the HTML coding actually
― fella, cutie (s1ocki), Monday, January 11, 2010 11:13 AM
― ksh, Thursday, 22 April 2010 05:10 (fourteen years ago) link
I have been reading War Room for years and I really hope that this kind of post is kept to a minimum, grasping at straws is a lot more tolerable when it's about celebs instead of politics.
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/05/03/obama_drone_joke_jonas_brothers/index.html
― musically, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link
p@reene needs pageviews
― velko, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Everyone who writes for a weekly or a blog is best friends and constantly giving each other hj's.
― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link
WHO IS GHOST RIDER
― jaymc, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Still in Jeopardy mode, I see.
― Foster Brooks, You're Dead! (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link
grasping at straws = Obama is an asshole?
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 01:14 (thirteen years ago) link
cuz. he. is. a. homicidal. steward. of the. empire. who. likes. to. joke. about. it.
Jeopardy! answer:
a dinner that should get hit by a drone every year.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 01:16 (thirteen years ago) link
haha otm
― the rural führer (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 01:16 (thirteen years ago) link
when dads can't make jokes about being overly protective of their daughters the terrorists win
― musically, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 03:30 (thirteen years ago) link
dads who haven't actually killed people "collaterally" still can
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 11:51 (thirteen years ago) link
You know, it would've been Patriot missiles during the first Gulf War
um whut
― the subject of many paedo's thoughts (history mayne), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 11:58 (thirteen years ago) link
oh actually yeah, when you think about it, defending israel from scud missiles is a bit like the phoenix program. my bad.
― the subject of many paedo's thoughts (history mayne), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 11:59 (thirteen years ago) link
what?
― max, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 12:09 (thirteen years ago) link
But the problem isn't specifically with the joke itself. It's a sort of generic joke about the executive's unconstrained power that any postwar president could've delivered. You know, it would've been Patriot missiles during the first Gulf War, or jokes about the CIA or Secret Service disappearing people during the Cold War.
i guess my memory could be off, but was there something terribly unconstitutional/comparable-to-secret-assassinations-programs about the use of patriot missiles?
― the subject of many paedo's thoughts (history mayne), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 12:42 (thirteen years ago) link
oh i dont think so--i mean their use was controversial--but i think i think its kind of beside the point he wants to make
― max, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 12:52 (thirteen years ago) link
i can remember the war, but not any controversy, and their use doesn't seem to have any relation to "the executive's unconstrained power" (cough healthcare cough) nor be comparable to bad things the CIA did off the books
my guess is pareene was going all out relentless for the zing -- which is exactly what barry obam's "daily show" speechwriters were doing
game should recognize game
― the subject of many paedo's thoughts (history mayne), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 13:00 (thirteen years ago) link
mm
― max, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 13:02 (thirteen years ago) link