A better and more humane film than Kill Bill (which I love).
Discuss.
― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 10 October 2005 04:12 (7 years ago) Permalink
― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 10 October 2005 04:18 (7 years ago) Permalink
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 10 October 2005 04:21 (7 years ago) Permalink
actually i think this one is worse because of the scenes in the mall food court which gives me bad memories
― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!, Monday, 10 October 2005 04:21 (7 years ago) Permalink
― k/l (Ken L), Monday, 10 October 2005 04:22 (7 years ago) Permalink
― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 10 October 2005 04:25 (7 years ago) Permalink
― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 10 October 2005 04:29 (7 years ago) Permalink
― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 10 October 2005 04:34 (7 years ago) Permalink
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― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 10 October 2005 04:35 (7 years ago) Permalink
― geoff (gcannon), Monday, 10 October 2005 04:57 (7 years ago) Permalink
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― Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 10 October 2005 05:35 (7 years ago) Permalink
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― N_RQ, Monday, 10 October 2005 08:36 (7 years ago) Permalink
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:01 (7 years ago) Permalink
yeah, great movie.
If one doesn't exist, I'm starting a Killing Zoe thread!
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:35 (7 years ago) Permalink
― strng hlkngtn: what does it mean? (dubplatestyle), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:42 (7 years ago) Permalink
― strng hlkngtn: what does it mean? (dubplatestyle), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:43 (7 years ago) Permalink
Lee G. said something to me when it came out about how he DID think QT was in it, suspected that his voice might have come over the loudspeaker in one of the airport scenes.
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:44 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:46 (7 years ago) Permalink
― gear (gear), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:51 (7 years ago) Permalink
i need to re-watch this.
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:52 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:52 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:53 (7 years ago) Permalink
― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 10 October 2005 15:14 (7 years ago) Permalink
WRONG.
Also: I love Keaton in this.
― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 10 October 2005 15:19 (7 years ago) Permalink
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 10 October 2005 15:25 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Monday, 10 October 2005 15:26 (7 years ago) Permalink
― William Paper Scissors (Rock Hardy), Monday, 10 October 2005 15:27 (7 years ago) Permalink
― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 10 October 2005 15:27 (7 years ago) Permalink
― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 10 October 2005 15:28 (7 years ago) Permalink
― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 10 October 2005 15:28 (7 years ago) Permalink
And it certainly is Keaton's best recurring role, maybe his best role ever. Well, until Multiplicity 2, The Beginning: This Time It's Personal is finally released.
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Monday, 10 October 2005 15:30 (7 years ago) Permalink
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 10 October 2005 15:31 (7 years ago) Permalink
Three movies in a row with no guest starring role from the director gives me hope that he finally realizes he's not an actor.
He couldn't resist, though. He's the "automated" voice on Jackie's answering machine.
― not logging in, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 09:15 (7 years ago) Permalink
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― gear (gear), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 09:27 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 13:47 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Andy_K (Andy_K), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 14:09 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 14:23 (7 years ago) Permalink
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:06 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:17 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:28 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:31 (7 years ago) Permalink
dude!
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:34 (7 years ago) Permalink
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:35 (7 years ago) Permalink
― senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:59 (7 years ago) Permalink
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― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:04 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:04 (7 years ago) Permalink
― senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:10 (7 years ago) Permalink
And I just remembered Pam was better in Mars Attacks! :D How is she on The L Word?
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:11 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:29 (7 years ago) Permalink
i remember seeing it when it came out, and the cinema was packed with people who (like me, facing it) wanted another quote-packed 'pulp fiction'. and we didn't get it, and i think we were all a bit put out
so otm. was disappointed with this the first time round, but watched it again last night, and it's great.
― Jesse James Woods (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 April 2010 14:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
greatest. not to mention the best ever adaptation of a leonard book imo.
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 1 April 2010 14:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
^cosign
― Jack traded Milky-White to the troll for a magical (remy bean), Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:09 (3 years ago) Permalink
luv dis movie
― ~cankles~ (ice cr?m), Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, I'm not sure I can call this my absolute favorite QT movie - but its the one I come back to the most often. Although, looking at my shelves right now, I have no idea what happened to my DVD copy.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
this is some repugnant shit
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:49 (3 years ago) Permalink
not to mention the best ever adaptation of a leonard book imo.
I dunno. I have a lot of love for the movie of Get Shorty. Two totally different tones, obv. Both great Leonard movies, though.
― kenan, Thursday, 1 April 2010 22:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'm not sure I can call this my absolute favorite QT movie
I hesitate myself, but I think... ok, yeah. I can say that. Jackie Brown is my favorite QT movie.
― kenan, Thursday, 1 April 2010 22:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
IB beats this imho
― Kaleidoscope Funk Network (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 1 April 2010 22:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
I will fight you!
No wait... I won't.
― kenan, Thursday, 1 April 2010 22:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
whew shakey got all shaky there for a sec
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 1 April 2010 22:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
is there an anigif of robert deniro having stand-up style intercourse with jane fonda's daughter yet
― iiiijjjj, Thursday, 1 April 2010 22:49 (3 years ago) Permalink
jane's niece, peter's daughter
― my full government name (WmC), Thursday, 1 April 2010 22:52 (3 years ago) Permalink
fine but my primary point is the anigif, is there one
― iiiijjjj, Thursday, 1 April 2010 22:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
So good. It's always been my favourite, though maybe Basterds matches it? Time will tell. But I watched JB again only last week, oddly enough. Everyone is so good in this, even Chris Tucker ("you're catching a nigga off guard with this shit"), and the whole switch scene in the mall is just brilliant.
― Duke Newsom (DavidM), Thursday, 1 April 2010 22:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
xp Lemme rip the movie, see what I can do. This could take a little while.
― kenan, Thursday, 1 April 2010 23:02 (3 years ago) Permalink
you would
― iiiijjjj, Thursday, 1 April 2010 23:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
Jackie Brown - Get Shorty - Out Of Sight is like the trifecta of great Leonard adaptations.
― Obama, Wellstone and Darwinfish, Attorneys (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 1 April 2010 23:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
xp Hey don't request a gif and then insult me for offering. Doo-doo head.
― kenan, Thursday, 1 April 2010 23:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
i never requested a gif dog i just said is there one! so chill with the ad hominem attacks you rapist
― iiiijjjj, Thursday, 1 April 2010 23:35 (3 years ago) Permalink
It's always been my favourite, though maybe Basterds matches it?
This.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Friday, 2 April 2010 00:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
that one scene where the car leaves and comes back and the camera just stays in the same spot is awesome
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 2 April 2010 00:02 (3 years ago) Permalink
the camera is lifted or whatever but the whole effect it gets is great
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 2 April 2010 00:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
so chill with the ad hominem attacks you rapist
Ok that's kind of funny.
― kenan, Friday, 2 April 2010 00:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
Ripped the whole movie, and was just about to whittle it down to a little animated gif, but decided that it wouldn't be funny enough without the punchline at the end: DeNiro saying, "That hit the spot."
― kenan, Sunday, 4 April 2010 12:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
Followed by a brief scene of Robert Forster in a record store buying a cassette. Which made me sad, because I bought so many cassettes in so many record stores, and now those stores don't exist at all.
Yeah, I watched the whole movie again. It sucks you in. It's that good.
― kenan, Sunday, 4 April 2010 12:52 (3 years ago) Permalink
RG: My favourite film you've made is 'Jackie Brown', and I was sorry to hear you were cool on it.
QT: I have never talked bad against Jackie Brown!
RG: But you said it was the film you felt most distanced from while you were making it.
QT: That's true, but that did not mean that I don't love Jackie Brown. No, no, no, no, not at all. This comes up, and I couldn't love Jackie Brown more. However - when I was making it there was a slight… Let me put it like this. With Inglourious Basterds, every aspect of it is a product of my imagination. Until I filled up those 160 pages, there was no Inglourious Basterds, it was completely created by me: the characters, the backstory, mythology, even the stuff that never finds its way into the movie but which I know about. Now, Jackie Brown is not that way. As different as the movie is from the book, there is a second-hand quality to it. It is Elmore Leonard's. I completely made it my own. Having said that, it did already exist. And I didn't know I'd have that feeling until when I was in post-production, and I found myself losing patience with the process. And that's the hardest part for me, when you're kind of over it, and you still have to do colour timing; the sound mix gets wonderful and sounds like a proper movie, but it's also hard work getting there.
RG: Is there a sense in which a person whose favourite movie of yours is 'Jackie Brown' could be said to not really 'get' you and what you're about?
QT: No. I love Jackie Brown. Although I do actually think, truthfully, that it's easy to call Jackie Brown my best movie. It's easy.
RG: How so?
QT: Well, there's a maturity to it that you can very officially hang your hat on. It's dealing with older characters. And the three-dimensional aspects of the movie… well, it's become almost revisionist among critics to love that. I was not given that much credit for the long, three-dimensional aspects at the time. When the movie came out, it was like, “Get fucking to it. Get on with it.” Now everyone seems to feel differently about it. That's not me being a smartass. The thing about Jackie Brown is that it gains a tremendous amount upon second, third, fourth viewings, and people had to go through that. And now they're there.
The thing is - and I'm being a bit of a smartass here, but in a fun way - that was literally what I always intended. I always intended Jackie Brown to be like Rio Bravo, which I feel is a great 'hangout' movie. Jackie Brown is a hangout movie. And that was always intended. I'm sincere about this. I thought that, if you liked Jackie Brown, then maybe it'd be a movie you'd watch every three years or every five years, and when you did, it would be almost like Jackie and Ordell and Max Cherry would be your friends, and you'd hang out with them every time you watched it. Dazed and Confused is a movie like that. So I always knew it'd take years for people, if they liked it, to get a sense of what I was doing.
At the same time, you know, if you watch Pulp Fiction tomorrow, you would go, “Wow, look at what he did here.” I mean, the experiments I did in that movie are still very bold. My point being: it's very easy to say Jackie Brown is your favourite. Look, I'm not trying to talk you out of that, but take a look at some of the other ones again and… you know, it's easy to take the others for granted.
― caek, Sunday, 4 April 2010 13:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
Jackie Brown is a hangout movie.
Spoken like someone to whom "hanging out" means nothing more than watching movies.
I take his point, but fuck it, it's even more my favorite having just watched it again. I like the way that Elmore Leonard gives it a paperback structure that QT would have avoided otherwise. I love that is has these chapters, and that each of them end with some majorly punchy dialog and a fade-out. As a movie, it's a real page-turner.
― kenan, Sunday, 4 April 2010 13:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
will possibly be the last good one we see from him, unless he does more adaps.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 4 April 2010 15:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
Did I just hear you say that QT made a good movie?
― kenan, Sunday, 4 April 2010 15:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
It's a GOOD movie, but ...
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, March 8, 2006 4:53 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― caek, Sunday, 4 April 2010 15:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
haha Ok.
― kenan, Sunday, 4 April 2010 15:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
Tarantino is/was the most overhyped talented person on the planet
he's undeniably talented, and i don't think he's the most overhyped, but i do think he's plenty overhyped. his biggest strengths: snappy dialogue and style. but many times his movies aren't much beyond those two elements, and there's an unseemly quality to them that gets grating.
having said that, i like tarantino's films. i just rented inglorious bastards. the revisionist-history and revenge-aspect of the film appeals to me as a jewish man.
― Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 4 April 2010 15:44 (3 years ago) Permalink
"I'm being a bit of a smartass here, but in a fun way"
― kenan, Sunday, 4 April 2010 15:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
Off topic, maybe, but I'd LOVE to see a Tarantino adaptation of Swag, set in '70s Detroit before every liquor store had a surveillance camera. The city could use the money, and T could use another good coffee break of a movie, which that book is even truer to than Rum Punch. And maybe he could improve the ending--as he did with Rum Punch. Jackie Brown's not a great movie for me because it just doesn't feel like it's really happening most of the time--I thought Forster and Grier were "pretty good," but every scene with Samuel L. Jackson crackles.
― Pete Scholtes, Monday, 5 April 2010 00:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
I love the cool dive bars Jackie, Odell, and Louis hang out at.
Sam Jackson's best performance? Part of why he's so pissed off is that all the people he genuinely likes (Louis, Jackie, Max) fuck him over.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 September 2012 02:30 (7 months ago) Permalink
no still a boring superfly minstrel bit
― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 22 September 2012 02:36 (7 months ago) Permalink
does Ordell genuinely like any of those three? I definitely don't think he likes Max, Louis to him is a shell of his former friend ... Jackie, maybe, but idk. It's a great character - obviously psychopaths have to be charming but I don't think they're often made to be this personable.
― boxall, Saturday, 22 September 2012 02:43 (7 months ago) Permalink
Maybe--certainly tied with Jungle Fever and Pulp Fiction. Slight disagreement on your formulation of Odell's anger. Jackie, yes, but I wouldn't say Louis fucks him over, not intentionally--Louis just screws up, and Odell kills him out of exasperation with his stupidity--and I'm not sure he likes Max, either. He's wry and sarcastic the first time in Max's office ("Oh, it's like that, is it?"), and when he's sitting in the car looking evil and hateful while Johnny Cash plays, some of that hate's reserved for Max.
― clemenza, Saturday, 22 September 2012 02:46 (7 months ago) Permalink
ah, this thread. good times.
― Raymond Cummings, Saturday, 22 September 2012 02:47 (7 months ago) Permalink
nah, Morbs: minstrels aren't this three dimensional and don't boast Jackson's hair.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 September 2012 02:47 (7 months ago) Permalink
To me it's clear he respects Max's sangfroid and hidden layers ("I didn't know you liked the Delfonics"), and it's clearer in their last exchange in the car before walking into Max's office. Ordell's scared but when he gives Max a last chance to explain himself it sounds like he genuinely wants to believe this guy wouldn't fuck him over.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 September 2012 02:49 (7 months ago) Permalink
i'd put it behind jungle fever but a hair ahead of pulp fiction. it's a shame jackson has generally spent most of his post-breakthrough career to hackwork, though i guess i can understand if you have to wait until twenty years into yr career for that breakthrough (as late as 1990 he's still doing glorified extra roles like 'taxi dispatcher' and 'black guy') that as soon as the opportunity comes you might go right for the paychecks. is 1997 the last year he could be said to have given a damn w/ jackie brown and eve's bayou? he's given some fun performances since obv (this year even) but nothing exceptional or worthy.
― balls, Saturday, 22 September 2012 03:36 (7 months ago) Permalink