S/D: Gay movies of arty qualities

i'd love to see the Genet film. is it available on DVD?

Taxi zum Klo
A Thousand Clouds of Peace...

Jed, that's PARTING Glances, and nothing in it approaches Steve Buscemi's level.

'finding forrester'?

whatshisface from TLA, who literally wrote the book on gay/queer cinema(and it's a fascinating book), always put together really cool bills for the gay film festival in philly every year. there is SO much out there. and yeah, some is horrible, but that is true of everything.

Tho some might say 'not gay enuf,' I would mention Jenni Olson's "The Joy of Life," which has played in far too few cities.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0436457/

Farewell My Concubine
Beau travail (it's not just a "gay film", but the gay theme is very strong, though mostly under the surface)
Half of Almodovar
Gods and Monsters
Lilies
Family Pack
Replay (La Répétition)
Surrender Dorothy
Suddenly (Tan de repente)

Or as teh Scarecrow said to Dorothy, "Some people go both ways."

* Homosexual
* Independent Film
* Gay Interest
* Abandoned Building
* Adolescent
* Art Collector
* Brutality
* Childhood Friend
* Christmas
* Cruising
* Desert
* Domestic Violence
* Drag Queen
* Forest
* Gay Bar
* Gay Bashing
* Gun
* Highway
* Interview
* Kennedy Assassination
* Lake
* Male Nudity
* Memory
* Movie Theater
* New York City
* Prostitution
* Rape
* Same Sex Situation
* Same Sex Union
* Semi Autobiographical
* Small Town
* Truck Driver
* Violence
* Water
* Hitch Hiker
* Non Linear
* Pay For Sex
* Pick Up
* Porno Theater
* Sexual Imagery
* Sun Bathing
* Male Prostitute
* Depression
* Sadomasochism

search..uh.. Midnight Cowboy? The Conformist? Dog Day Afternoon? I guess those are just movies with gay people in them, though haha

I watched most of Latter Days with my last roommate. He didn't seem to find it all to, er, edifying, so.. destroy.

this site is funny:

http://campblood.org/

http://www.tlavideo.com/templates/results_list.cfm?v=0&sn=1&pid=8358

"It all starts when the lead singer of a boy band just doesn't fit into the team anymore. So they do what all good boy bands do, the underwear-clad studs gather round the singer and suck his blood dry. To replace the lead singer the band, and their manager played with calm poise by Adrienne Barbeau (the actress, currently on "Carnavale" on HBO, is known for creating the role of Rizzo in Grease and playing Maude's daughter in the '70s TV show) decide to hold public concerts. Creating a sort of reality TV situation they select three contestants and invite the hunky boys to their private island where they will select the new singer. Immediately, there's friction with a girlfriend, a hero boy with a guitar on his back and lots of 6-pack abs and raised shirts. When the "good" contestant Shawn finds a secret cave with voodoo dolls, tons of candles, a torture rack and mysterious band photos, there's hell to pay."

OMG! That reminds me of a movie whose credentials as arty or gay are on probation, but Sleepaway Camp is the best slasher movie!

First gay fillum per se is Basil Dearden's Victim, starring Dirk Bogarde as a homo barrister in the days before Wolfenden, being scared to shit because bad men were bribing him with cottage photos. It's amazing. It's also on PBS affiliates about once every year, usually in a season with The Servant and other class-based dramas.

Also Paris is Burning seems to speak to/about the years I lived in NYC.

i enjoyed it!

Another gay arty short I've seen tons of enthusiasm over: https://letterboxd.com/film/the-taking-of-jordan-all-american-boy/

I really liked Passages too. Must've been the Ira Sachs thread that I posted on.

Ira Sachs has quietly created an intelligent little gay oeuvre

he really has

He’s one of the under-the-radar directors whose films I’ve recently enjoyed getting to know, like Celine Sciamma (who was not talked about much until the last few years), Eliza Hittman, and Jessica Hausner. I don’t think any of those directors have taken a wrong step yet. All of their films have been very understated but also interesting

I would put Ulrich Seidl in that category as well, and maybe some others. His films aren't gay as such but have a very queer sensibility

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/17/t-magazine/gay-villains-white-lotus-ripley.html

I watched Weekend (2011) tonight. Pretty good!

Well, except that Weekend is still within the last 10 years and I know it's too normcore and hetero for the room but fuck off and enjoy it.
― "Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Wednesday, March 28, 2018 11:32 PM (five years ago)

ibid

I really loved Passages - Franz Rogowski is a force of nature.

I also loved L'immensita, a semi-autobiographical Italian trans coming of age story by Emanuele Crialese, which has got otherwise mixed reviews. Everyone has focused on Penelope Cruz, but the non-actor kid in the central role is sensational.

I agree with everything, except I also liked Penelope Cruz in that movie.

All of Us Strangers splitting my arty gays about as much as Passages did. When was the last arty gay movie that got universal arty-gay praise?

The majority of arty gays are wrong about All of Us Strangers btw. I loved it.

why didn't the arty gays like Passages?

A sampling:

What’s worse, the ego of the filmmaker in the movie or the ego of the filmmaker making the movie?

is this person hot enough to justify their horrible behavior?: the movie

This is a major problem for contemporary film culture in which actors are hired for their social identity and limited to it. Gay actors are bamboozled into invasive, distasteful postures the same way black actors are bamboozled into defensiveness. They are forced to find their way through politicized stereotypes according to the era’s fashion — where their humanity and creativity have been traduced and politicized.

This desolate view of hapless people is extreme, consistent with Sachs’s interest in sexual compulsion (The Delta, Keep the Lights On), but it also smacks of humorless, radical progressivism. Pedro Almodóvar’s self-critical Pain and Glory was also emotional, erotic, and funny, with a wonderful, fully fleshed performance by Antonio Banderas and a range of lovers holding on to their humanity. But instead of bringing his characters close, Sachs brandishes topicality: After Thomas and Martin’s last squabble over infidelity, Sachs features a West Hollywood rainbow-flag poster that blares,“No More Abuse of Our Rights, Dignity,” “Police Officers Not Storm Troopers,” “Blue Fascism Must Go,” and “Stop Illegal Search and Seizure.”

Those slogans are clearer than the relationships in Passages. These progressive libertines are miserable yet smug. Sachs salutes their headlong independence in the closing sequence where his camera tracks alongside Thomas’s bicycle ride across Paris. It’s also smug, recalling Woody Allen running through New York streets at the end of Manhattan but without the Chaplinesque payoff. Sachs has not perceived or created recognizable people in Passages but is selling politicized sexual types — perhaps, ultimately, a misperception of homosexuality. It’s like an adult version of Disney’s grooming agenda. Is this a harbinger of social propaganda to come?

OK you got me, the last one's 4rm0nd

Disney's grooming agenda

of the three samples eric posted: first one i don't get (sachs is hardly the fassbinder type?), second one is weaksauce "critique" (someone was horrible? in a movie???), third one is...well, armond

I also liked All of us strangers - hard to resist if you grew up in the 80s suburbs listening to Pet Shop Boys. Kind of a queer spooky sibling to Eternal Daughter.

Mescal and Scott did a q&a at my screening and their mutual affection was almost as moving as the film!

i recommend paul b. preciado’s new godardian recasting of woolf’s orlando into the current-day trans milieu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpGFplNRUmc

Def my favorite key art of the year

Man, Saltburn sounds awful

promising young woman was godawful, guess we’re in for more

It's definitely less than the sum of its parts. (Its parts being Brideshead Revisited, The Talented Mr. Ripley and Gormenghast.) Great casting, lovely main location, song choices that a little TOO obvious at points.

But basically I forgot I saw it within a couple of days. I was thinking "Wait didn't I see a movie this past Monday...oh yeah right."

didn't really have any interest in seeing saltburn till I saw Ned's post that added gormenghast to the brideshead/ripley comparisons had already heard - now sounds gloriously bad and i wanna see

Barry Keoghan could make a great Steerpike. This attempt at a variant, well...

Silverlake Life if "arty" = "gritty, lo-fi mid-80s documentary"

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, September 22, 2005 8:07 AM (eighteen years ago)

gygax! OTM, absolute doomwatch that turned entire cinemas into weeping masses

I've got a chromosomal aversion to gay films of arty qualities infused with a special pleading, so I'm still thinking about my response to All of Us Strangers /

You're not alone in that, but it worked a treat for someone like me

Paul Mescal, though! I thought he was a wan little thing. Every time he chortled and looked at Andrew Scott I wanted to -- well.

First reasonably mainstream movie to feature one man cleaning up his own, er, mess from another man's chest?

I finally saw Saltburn. And I wish I had stayed home and rewatched Teorema.

something i’ll say for saltburn is i’ve never felt completely uninvolved in something “trashy” before

anyway, very bad! gorgeously lit but no one behind the camera is making images out of this gorgeous lighting! script is obviously intended to be Hilarious but it isn’t funny???? (rosamund pike doing her best)

https://t.co/k5HoOU1NLv pic.twitter.com/abH1tYD0tD

— Larry Fitzmaurice (@lfitzmaurice) December 27, 2023

Not much discussion here of Rotting in the Sun. I watched it last week and liked it, actually found it fairly affecting at the end. Won't say much because it starts out seeming like one kind of movie and becomes quite different.

There are individual scenes in All of Us Strangers that I found really affecting, and the performances were uniformly excellent, but as a narrative I'm not sure what to make of it.

I watched the trailer and determined it wasn’t for me.

Ha, I watched the trailer and determined no movie has ever been more for me.

Y'all should watch Winter Boy, a gay film of arty qualities released last year that covers some of the same ground yet is funnier and lighter.

I don’t think All of Us Strangers was meant to be light

That's the problem.

There really should be more light, funny films about grief

My problem mostly has to do with the ending.

There really should be more light, funny films about grief

― Wack Snyder (Eric H.),

I recommended one!

Hard pass then

Short read: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/all-of-us-strangers-bottoms-queer-storytelling-1235784736/