Israel to World: "Suck It."

I think it's too late, plans seem to have been already made.
Israel are the cocky little kid that starts a fight then lets the bigger kid step in and finish it.

― not_goodwin, Saturday, May 4, 2013 3:35 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not really. Israel did this in 2007 as well. They struck a shipment of arms that was headed for hezbollah, not a stationary target.

I would say it's unlikely this is aimed to open up a wider war, although you never know

the scheme is set, likud will soon use false flags to occupy all of transjordan

lol

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/israel-should-seize-the-arab-leagues-offer-8604933.html

Good news

Stephen Hawking joins academic boycott of Israel

Israel probably still ain't gonna give a fuck. They didn't give a fuck about the Pixies.

Israeldgaf

no no no, they got really angry about it

What a dick:

http://www.haaretz.com/mobile/.premium-1.562552?v=12AF99EAF04CD4FBDE3AF193EBF1FE32

i think he should go, but apparently the price tag is not just a blow-off - security detail for bibi was going to run into the millions, versus the $100k it'll cost to send 5 ministers instead.

Yeah, I bet he could have found the money. It's a one-time only funeral of a major political figure that dozens of other major political figures will be attending. Without knowing the guest list, if I were PM of Israel I think I'd rather be counted among the people going than the people not going.

Plus, you know, Bono and Oprah will be there.

Jeffrey St Clair revamps a 2001 essay by himself and Cockburn on Sharon the terrorist:

An official
 Israeli commission of inquiry–chaired by Yitzhak Kahan, president of Israel’s
 Supreme Court–investigated the massacre, and in February 1983 publicly
 released its findings (without Appendix B, which remained secret). The Kahan
Commission found that Ariel Sharon, among other Israelis, had direct responsibility 
for the massacre. The commission’s report stated:

“It is our view
 that responsibility is to be imputed to the Minister of Defense for having disregarded
 the danger of acts of vengeance and bloodshed by the Phalangists against the 
population of the refugee camps, and having failed to take this danger into 
account when he decided to have the Phalangists enter the camps. In addition,
 responsibility is to be imputed to the Minister of Defense for not ordering 
appropriate measures for preventing or reducing the danger of massacre as a
 condition for the Phalangists’ entry into the camps. These blunders constitute
the non-fulfillment of a duty with which the Defense Minister was charged.”

Sharon refused 
to resign. Finally, on February 14, 1983, he was relieved of his duties as defense 
minister, though he remained in the cabinet as minister without portfolio.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/01/17/sharon-the-terrorist/

I really wish I believed there was anything behind these words.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/israeli-leaders-cry-foul-over-kerrys-boycott-warning/2014/02/02/fcf097e0-8c41-11e3-9ed8-259977a48789_story.html

One of the major players in the worldwide drug industry is Teva Pharmaceutical Industries, Ltd., an Israeli company. According to its website, Teva fills 1 out of every 6 generic prescriptions in the US and Canada. Generic drugs, in 2012, made up 84% of all prescriptions filled in the US. So in the US, 14% of all prescriptions were filled by an Israeli company. If you live in the US and you bought 7 prescription drugs over the course of the year, chances are that one of them was made by Teva.

Israel to World: "Swallow It."

On the mess that is currently going on at my school, which has now escalated to companies bullying institutions of higher learning. *sigh*

(note: as I am both an employee of the university as well as a student, I didn't get to vote in this)

http://blogs.windsorstar.com/2014/03/12/engineering-firm-threatens-to-cut-ties-to-u-of-w-over-isreal-divestment-issue/

That referendum was passed when 758 undergraduates voted in favor of the boycott, 585 voted against it and 10 voted “none of the above” out of a student population of 14,000.

Hmm

Engineering firm's response is outrageous, obviously

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/18/israel-boycott-movement-antisemitic-netanyahu

Well he would say that wouldn't he?

so unfair that universities can't boycott other countries universities without consequences.

“I am reasonably certain that the majority … of this small percentage of the student body are of the Muslim faith, which promotes violence and hatred toward the Jews in the Middle East.”

I'd like to think they'd feel obliged to cut ties after this anyway

So unfair that countries can't illegally build settlements in occupied territories without consequences.

If BDS's platform was exclusively about the settlements id agree w your analogy

I don't even support BDS and I think the university needs to set a minimum turnout if its referenda are to mean anything but (a) it's false and predictable for Netanyahu to call it plain anti-semitism and (b) it's obnoxious for a corporation to describe muslims in those terms while trying to bully a university into overruling a student vote.

x-post: Yeah, I don't agree with BDS either. Followed a few links in the new articles, the leaders definitely say some worrying stuff. But the main reason BDS is in the spotlight in a country like Denmark is because of the settlements.

I agree w/ Bibi that 1. BDS is committed to the dissolution of Israel as the Jewish State, and that 2. Trying to destroy the Jewish State of Israel counts as an antisemitic act. I think there's room to disagree w/ those two points without being antisemitic, but I don't think it's 'false' (tho probably 'predictable') for Netanyahu to call it anti-semitism.

"Some supporters of the movement see it as a way to put pressure on Israel to end illegal settlements in the territories occupied in the 1967 war;

But opposing settlements alone, does not make one an anti-semite (as was discussed above)

Of course, I agree that you can oppose settlements without being an anti-semite. I think someone could even support BDS without hating Jews (and indeed, there has always been Jewish resistance to the state of Israel even pre-1948). But I do believe the BDS movement is an anti-semitic movement and that anti-semitism primarily motivates the majority of its participants. That's my impression from listening to BDS proponents, reading pro-BDS blogs (and their readerships), etc.

In one of those articles in the Guardian, a BDS-leader talks about a one-state solution that is 'secular' and 'democratic'. Which seems obvious dogwhistle-stuff to me. A one-state with elections would quickly become an islamic state, I think.

However, the response from the engineering firm is obviously islamophobic, openly islamophobic.

You can have nothing against Jewishness and not think there should be a Jewish state. Plenty of Jews feel the same way.

and indeed, there has always been Jewish resistance to the state of Israel even pre-1948

I know antisemitism can be hard to detect but "anti-semitism primarily motivates the majority of its participants" is v far from my experience & when ppl state the possibility of supporting boycotts w/out being antisemitic like it's a concession or debatable I'm always a little doubtful of their judgement

tho i wouldn't call it "plenty." the vast majority of jews support israel as a jewish state and even 99% of oppositional charedim fell in line after 1948 (neuturi karta being the only exception). xp

ogmor, I wonder if you read Electronic Intifada and Mondoweiss?

I have never read either

I think those are probably the two most visible pro-BDS communities at least in the anglosphere and both engage regularly in horrific anti-semitism particularly re conspiracies (look at Mondoweiss recent discussions of how Israel and the Jews are orchestrating the situation in Ukraine to get a real sense of BDS psychosis).

Jews should take advantage of the tumult to claim a second Jewish state in the Crimea. It's not fair that we can only have one Jewish state.

It goes without saying that the Arabic press is stunningly anti-semitic as well, which goes without saying. Cartoons published in the UK pan-Arabic Al Quds al Arabi recently include:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ogAZvPTZMtA/Uxxl5AWhLYI/AAAAAAAAcqw/Rrp_T2_Suh0/s1600/quds1.jpg

and

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YwkDM_3RAUs/Uxxl56I7XGI/AAAAAAAAcrA/PagWiodVuTs/s1600/quds4.jpg

if it really went without saying obvs i wouldn't have to repeat it so much lol

By "plenty" I didn't mean a large percentage, just that there have been prominent anti-zionist Jewish voices. I'm thinking more of secular Jews like Tony Judt, who advocated a one-state solution. xps

http://www.mrdrybones.com/blog/D14223_3.gif

There are enough anti-semities in the BDS movement to make me deeply uncomfortable about it but not enough to tar the whole movement as such. Which I know sounds like watery liberal equivocation but there you go. I think critics of Israeli policy need to be a hell of a lot firmer about distancing themselves from the bigots. The fact that Gilad Atzmon is still cited as one of the good guys makes me think that's not going to happen for a long time.

Yeah, I don't doubt that anti-semitism gives the BDS movement a bit of extra sizzle. It seems to attract a following out of proportion to other human-rights based boycott campaigns.

xp mordy
I don't doubt it. obv anything on Israel will attract these people, the boycott movement being focused & punitive especially, but people I've met who are involved have all also been involved w/ other political/humanitarian/human rights causes. it seems like it's obviously the audience BDS is courting.

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