Spreading the Gospel, Part #332: "The Koran Needs to be Flushed" on a church sign

"I enjoy a good flea market, but if people can be down there at eight o'clock why can't they be at church at 11," he said.

They made a typo in Lovejoy, didn't they?

"Respecting religion is important and respecting other people is important," said Honeycutt. "Hopefully, a lot of people will have that thought when they see the sign."

A nice try to turn the whole issue upside down...

(this is from: my memory of the news story about the Taliban banning paper bags, in case one had a Koranic quote written on it and was then thrown away)

"Respecting religion is important and respecting other people is important," said Honeycutt. "Hopefully, a lot of people will have that thought when they see the sign."

And presumably react thusly: "Those guys at the Sandy Bay Baptist Association are a bunch of assholes! Not like the nice men at the Green River Baptist Association"

"Our creed as a Christian, or a Protestant, or a Baptist church -- of course we don't have a creed but the bible -- but we do have the Baptist faith and message that says that we should cling to the 66 books of the Holy Bible and any other book outside of that claiming to know the way of God or claiming to be God's word is automatically written off and is trying to defeat people from the way of true righteousness inside of our viewpoint in how we view the word of God," Lovelace said.

Ouch. Say what you like about the Catholics, but when we're finished training a priest, at least they can string a fucking sentence together.

yeah, the media is *definitely* to blame here (wtf?)

I do think that a lot of world events and their coverage in the media is to blame for a lot of anti-Islamic sentiment right now among Christian groups and vice versa.

but it's all perception... the muslims see the koran as an idol, an actual representation of God to some degree. that's heavy. it's like explosives you treat with care or else everyone around who didn't stop it from being desecrated or harmed is fucked. they are legimately worried about their destination in the afterlife.

a christian going to jail in morocco for talking about jesus is surely facing injustice but not eternal damnation in their mind. i guess if the jail had a lot of hot prison sex and they turned away from god or something then it'd be sort of a comparable act.

what that means for free speech i don't know tho. mr. flush the koran redneck dude definitely has the right to say what he wants, but we certainly should have the right to call him and asshole and complain and bug the hell out of him. it's not stomping on his free speech to call him a jackass.

question, do free speech rights give a person license to incite a riot? (i'm not sure i know how to answer that.) the religious rights of satanists don't grant them the ability to sacrifice a virgin, assuming that's something they like to do.
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It's illegal to yell "fire" in a theater.

a little google action.... from here:

http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/faculty/rwinslow/africa/morocco.html

"Islamic law and tradition call for strict punishment for any Muslim who converts to another faith. Citizens who convert to Christianity and other religions sometimes face social ostracism, and in the past a small number have faced short periods of questioning by the authorities. Voluntary conversion is not a crime under the Criminal or Civil Codes; however, the authorities have jailed some converts on the basis of references to Koranic law. Any attempt to induce a Muslim to convert is illegal. Foreign missionaries either limit their proselytizing to non-Muslims or conduct their work quietly."

so you're right about morocco. nyt had an article about that rock show you're talking about. that's crazy. i guess this is what you do to prove to certain other countries that you're civil. or something.
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looks like Korans actually WERE flushed...

this 'burn the koran' story is the most retarded thing to have come out of america since... the twin towers mosque

everyone comes out of this looking like an idiot

who is behind making this a story? why in god's name is obama weighing in (and disastrously so)?

difficult not to weigh in once the national news are giving this ding dong attention? Unless you weigh in to say "STFU you ding dong"

if he'd said 'this is retarded' it would be ok. but he's saying some bullshit about how we shouldn't offend people of different faiths. of course, he *would*, am i right.

I assume there's legitimate concern that this shit will have irl consequences tho and he probly feels he ought to try to defuse that.

that what he says, yeah. i just heard some guy saying the people of pakistan will be outraged, etc. would have thought they have enough on their plate?

People who enjoy getting outraged will get outraged no doubt, but this seems less like DNFTT and more like Do Not Kick the Troll Really Hard in the Balls

"this" meaning hilarious book-burnings

the florida guy is the real troll, and the media fed him, and they must have some reason to. otherwise it's just a guy burning some books and no-one hearing of it.

Well of course but how are there not gonna be sections of the American media that are happy to incite this?

British, meet America. America, British.

http://img.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/beatles-burning.jpg

^^^totally understand

Icky preacher shares a name with the founder of ESM and a Python, which is bringing hollow LOLs.

Would kick his balls myself if I could reach.

don't see any harm in obama just saying 'this guy's a dick of the highest order'. if he's gone any deeper into it i think it's prob unnecessary.

The reactions to the planned event were not confined to the U.S. Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood also weighed in on the issue, calling the Koran burning "insanity."

"This is insanity, the man is a criminal behaving outside of any religion," Muslim Brotherhood spokesman Mohamed Mursi told the German news agency DPA.

He compared Jones, the church leader behind the planned event, to a man walking around with a loaded gun threatening to shoot people.

"The greater responsibility for this issue lies with the U.S. government, and with the United Nations," Mursi said.

"We call on all Muslims to put pressure on their governments to expel U.S. ambassadors and to boycott U.S. products until the U.S. government takes action against this heinous crime," he said.

Calling Jones a "lunatic," Mursi said plans to burn the book holiest to Muslims "threatens peace and stability at an international level."

what a world

In an interview with ABC television, Mr Obama said he hoped Mr Jones "understands that what he's proposing to do is completely contrary to our values as Americans, that this country has been built on the notion of freedom and religious tolerance".

this is where he went wrong imo. if they think this puts US forces at risk, ok, but that's already been said, and not by the freakin president. but otherwise this is kind of the 00s version of piss christ.

Where do incitement laws stand on this? I'd have thought that could be fairly applied.

otherwise this is kind of the 00s version of piss christ.

― The sulky expression from the hilarious "Aubrey Plaza" persona (history mayne), Thursday, September 9, 2010 2:32 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

how dare u

oh shit it's not even the 00s n e more is it

i think there was more to piss christ than an obnoxious act of hate tbh

nice try tho

that's completely irrelevant to what obama is saying

"It tells me that goose-stepping morons like yourself should try _reading_ books instead of _burning_ them!"

Sadly, conservative asstards are using this as an opportunity to say, "Well, of course he has the right to burn the Koran, but that doesn't mean he should. It's an unnecessary provocation JUST LIKE BUILDING A MOSQUE AT GROUND ZERO AM I RIGHT HIGH FIVE!"

...DEVELOPING..

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/10/florida-pastor-cancels-burn-qur-an-anniversary-9-11

^ no burn notice

that what he says, yeah. i just heard some guy saying the people of pakistan will be outraged, etc. would have thought they have enough on their plate?

― The sulky expression from the hilarious "Aubrey Plaza" persona (history mayne), Thursday, 9 September 2010 13:39 (Yesterday)

you'd think so, but given what happened with those shitty danish cartoons i wouldn't be so sanguine

i'd rather obama simply 'this will cause americans to die' than sermonize abt tolerance etc to a load of ppl who have a pathological hatred for him

*simply said*

frankly they shouldn't have even given this dude the time of day, let alone had robert gates call him.

http://i55.tinypic.com/2eg62b7.jpg

pretty sure they got the first two words out of sequence there

Wait this dude has a Monty Python name but is really Yosemite Sam?!