Happyslapping...

(i think you have this slightly wrong. to me it was 'here's a computer -> access to DTP software -> better designed prostitute cards in phone boxes')

didn't see program last night but isn't 'Daily Mail style moral panic' sometimes justified? the hoodies thing was on bbc news this morning, the behaviour in schools program from a couple of weeks ago, the above, the 'taxing' thread, are these all things that we should just accept as the new way?

having been watching all the VE day stuff i think the obvious solution is to bring back conscription...

so now the kids around my way will probly catch on.

Thanks ITV you are teh awful lot of shit.

This is horrible as a concept alright, I wonder where it's happening most (didn't see the programme) - yesterday I saw on the BBC (which was questioning how widespread the trend was) that there'd been incidences in Leatherhead, now L'head is not a violent place cos it's pretty well off but there is a fair bit of vandalism for kicks, and this seems like an extension of that, vandalism of the person.

If someone attacks you in the street, while someone else videos it with their phone, and you fight back and knock them down etc, do you get to keep the phone?

You expect 15 year old boys to show remorse for anything? Stick a microphone under a 15 year old's nose and what do you expect to hear? Especially if he's surrounded by his mates.

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jesus this is all very depressing!

You wouldn't, though. If you tried that in south London they'd play the race card and you'd be done for assault.

Though I shamefully admit laughing when the little hooded fuckers knocked on the door of a guys house "Trick or treat!" they said, then lunged in and slapped him.

Quote from David Lynch, years ago: "I hate the fact that the law allows scum to walk on your lawn, but they arrest you if you shoot 'em."

Pretext? What pretext?

http://www.blackchat.co.uk/theblackforum/forum8/6503.html

Well I was thinking about something along the lines of "Genuinely Happy Slapping" where leading music writers get gratuitously ambushed in the street by well-known female celebrities - let's say, Amanda Platell, Penny Smith, Charlotte Rampling and Kirstie Allsopp - frogmarched back to a dope den in Knightsbridge and subjected to 48 hours of abominable sexual depravity.

She used to go out with Rory Bremner, though, so her taste is questionable.

I’m guessing the slapped party ain’t happy!

Did anyone see the footage of the guy in the bus shelter getting set on fire, it was on the news a week or so ago? That was recorded on a camera, grim.

What’s going on in the world?

Imagine ten years from now, scally mates with other scally, makes baby scally, baby scally grows up to be worse than the scallys we have now. Result = the hell scenes from Constantine will be the norm.

I think this thread needs *someone* to stand up for the slappers. This cheesy anti-mindless violence consensus cannot last.

of course, people (in absolutely every social class and walk of life) actually THINKING before they have children - am i able, in every way, to bring them up to be decent human beings? am i willing to put in the effort here? do i actually want a CHILD, not just a baby? etc etc - would be a vast, vast step forwards too.

but i'm too tired and my brain is broken and i can't argue any more. really, i'm seeing double here. it's been a long couple of weeks.

i don't think i've ever said the country was going to the dogs. i think i've said western market capitalism is jizz, but that's different :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

How should this be fostered by, say, a government?

what a government needs to do is alter people's notion of "success": ie success isn't having a massive house and car and living in a gated community for fear of your life; instead it's about living in a peaceful, harmonious community built on mutual respect. but i'm fucked if i can see any way of bringing this about other than armed revolution and the execution of about 99% of the population. (nb for the hard of thinking: THAT'S MEANT TO BE IRONIC, OK? it's a poor attempt, but hey.)

a tiny, tired part of me wants to blame this all on thatcher, but i know it's not that simple :)

xpost - A lot of me does blame Thatcher

Social inclusion is definitely the key. Yes, people will act towards their own self-interest ... the trick is to get them to redefine that self-interest. People are social creatures -- and we work much better in tribes than in festering little family units. Leverage that, and you're on to a winner.

Years ago, geography forced those tribes on us. Now, we're connected by the net, by who we drink with, by whom we choose to see. There are people here who know the sex lives of posters they've never met intimately and yet don't even know name of the people living across the hall.

You want to make people make an effort for each other, for society? Redifine their concept of self so that it includes the people around them. I grew up in small towns and villages, and while they have manifold drawbacks, they're really good at community -- fall down drunk aged 15 in a small-town park and someone will know where you live. Do it in a city and someone will nick your shoes then piss on you.

Thatcher, may she die soon, did massive damage to whatever remained of those local societies in the UK -- hell, as soon as people bought their council houses they began walling off from one another and competing.

The shit thing about post-Thatcher Britain is the way it resembles the uglier side of US society: I'm all right Jack, and my chosen tribe is all right -- pull the ladder up.

absolutely. but what's the carrot here? "you'll get carried home when you're pissed" ain't gonna wash with mr and mrs chump in their shit semi with the endowment mortgage and buggered pension.

must ... not ... look at ILE today ... too busy ...

There. Vote Rumpie.

link?

Take any residential street. Imagine a con-man is going door-to-door fleecing homeowners. If they all know their neighbours, he'll get fewer than three doors down before someone's phoned ahead to warn everyone. But if they're all isolated little "I'm in my castle" types, our con-man is going to fleece the lot of them.

Modern society allows people to pretend they're not part of an interdependent tribe. They are. And happyslapping is another manifestation of the breakdown -- of our society working much more poorly broken n little units

seriously: they're going to have to put a fucking electric fence round the thing to stop me.

"but she's a human being," several people have mewled when i've said stuff like this before. to which i would counter: show me the fucking evidence.

oh my god so completely otm! grimly, you've been very good value here, thanks for popping in.

x-post: coo, ta!

btw, charlie, you never did e-mail me about that human league CD (qv YSI thread number 4 or 5 on ILM). if you still want it, do so. (use the webmail link.)

I assume it is a fake.

http://www.kitmeout.com/fashion/fake_london_jeans.jpg

I have not seen any of this before, I supopose I shouldn't have clicked, but we all make mistakes.

crosspost

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/11/16/potentially-fatal-knockout-game-targeting-strangers-may-be-spreading-to-d-c/

kids in this being photographed in my old neighborhood. hope this falls under the heading of OH MY GOD THE CHILDREN ARE GONNA KILL US pitchfork and torch carrying local news bullshit and not anything resembling an actual trend

Does this happen anymore (in the UK I mean) or did it only happen in 2005 and 2006?

just found out that one of my mates has a plate in his skull from a happyslap

must've been pretty fierce to knock a plate in there

is it a small plate or a big plate? would you want more than one for a main course?

no wonder so many from the land of the big bottom birds have joined the happyslap avantgarde of isis

Had it not been for ilx and this thread, I would probably have lived the balance of my life unaware of the happyslapping fad. Now I cannot unsee this.