I Slept With My Best Friend And Now I Want To Kill Myself

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I slept with my friend. One of my closest friends. Now I wonder if we'll ever be able to have a normal relaxed relationship again. My friend seems really messed up and freaked out about it. I wouldn't be, really I could probably have just laughed it off, had it not been for my friend's obvious distress. My friend doesn't seem to want to talk about it at all. We haven't met since (a few days ago), only communicated through a few very angst-ridden text messages. Neither of us are attracted to the other (I think) or in love with the other (for sure), and I'm really a bit shocked and surprised that it happened, because we've never had anything remotely like that going on before. And it won't happen again. What the fuck am I going to do, I can't very well force my friend to see me and talk about it, can I? But it seems so wrong and impossible to just ignore it and pretend it didn't happen! Perhaps I should just avoid the person and let them make the first move and set the tone? But we will inevitably run into each other very soon. Is it even possible to resume a normal friendship after something like this?

Also, the other person has a partner that I know quite well. :-(

very logged out, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 11:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, it is possible to resume a normal friendship after something like this. It is quite hard, but it is possible. You don't necessarily need to "talk about it", just agree to not mention it. If the lack of feeling is mutual then its just one of those drunken things.

It might come back to haunt you but don't second guess it. Its the partner I'm worried about though.

Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 11:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Does your friend belong to the gender that you're normally attracted to, or not?

caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 11:29 (nineteen years ago) link

just take some time for all involved to get over it.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 11:29 (nineteen years ago) link

I say talk about it until it hurts. You'll both get over it, and be better friends because of it.

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 11:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Stab in the dark: you're a girl?

Rocker For Light (on a Bad Brains kick) (Eleventy-Twelve), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 11:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Caitlin, no... It makes it a bit more complicated I think, because the other person actually seems a bit disgusted by the whole thing, and I'm not sure whether it's because of the infidelity thing or if it's ME.

very logged out, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 11:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Girl or gay, I'm guessing. My solution? Become either a male or straight. Nah, I think it'll blow over. And if not, there's plenty more friend fishes in the sea.

Rocker For Light (on a Bad Brains kick) (Eleventy-Twelve), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 11:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Why not do it again? Just to make sure it was a total mistake and all?

NamC.., Tuesday, 19 April 2005 11:35 (nineteen years ago) link

And this time: ass-to-mouth!

Rocker For Light (on a Bad Brains kick) (Eleventy-Twelve), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 11:36 (nineteen years ago) link

This seems 99% to be "your friend is scared about maybe being l****". My guess is she needs to chill out for a while. Heck, in 10 years she'll be ticking a box that says "Have you ever had...." and lauging about it.

Whether or not this makes you feel any better, I dunno.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 11:37 (nineteen years ago) link

avoiding this person is the worst thing you can do...it'll make the other person imagine the worst, and could make the situation irreparable.

i think you should try to run into them, say 'god, i'm sorry about the other night, we were so drunk and you know i don't normally think of you that way, so can we just pretend it never happened? i care about you too much as a friend to lose you over this'

and then give a little space.

colette (a2lette), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 11:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Colette OTM totally!

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 11:42 (nineteen years ago) link

yes, as also she'd be feeling "OMG my friend is l*, and has been wanting me for ages" so what colette's said is right. xpost obv.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 11:43 (nineteen years ago) link

colette, that's pretty much what's been said through the few text messages we exchanged - to just forget about it and that it won't happen again. So yeah, a bit of space is probably the sensible thing right now.

very logged out, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 11:45 (nineteen years ago) link

mark grout, oh, I hadn't even thought about that aspect of it. I don't THINK she thinks that, but then again I don't know...

very logged out, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 11:49 (nineteen years ago) link

cool, glad to hear you've already said that kind of thing.

i would say that it's probably worth seeing her in person and just having things be 'normal' as much as possible, even if it's just for a little while, so she can see you aren't going to jump her bones every time you see her, you know?

seriously, don't get too freaked out about this, that kind of stuff happens all the time. the more nervous you are about it, and the bigger deal you make it, the weirder things will be between you, which you don't want. try to forget it happened and move on.

colette (a2lette), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 11:51 (nineteen years ago) link

just try and be as normal about it as possible. dont 'talk about it' unless they want to. give space, but make it thats its still totally easy for them to hang out if they want to

charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 11:51 (nineteen years ago) link

you know, you could talk about another person you have a crush on, in passing, to sort of take the emphasis away from them, and show your intentions lie elsewhere, though dont overdo it

charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 11:52 (nineteen years ago) link

suggest: "ORLANDO BLOOMPS FOR PRESIDETN"

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 11:53 (nineteen years ago) link

colette, thanks for the advice. I'm trying not to get too freaked out about it, like I said I'm really not, it's just the losing-the-friendship part that upsets me.

charltonlido, I don't really think she thinks I fancy her or anything.

I guess I'll just have to wait a bit and then try to see her in some casual relaxed context and see how she acts and respond to that.

very logged out, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 12:00 (nineteen years ago) link

(Oh, and the bit about her partner upsets me too, obviously. But that's out of my control, really, isn't it?)

very logged out, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 12:02 (nineteen years ago) link

(I'm guessing 'her partner' is the least of it, from her perspective)

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 12:05 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry for being ignorant but what do the stars in l**** stand for? (i'm guessing not "ucky" although that in itself makes sense)

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 12:05 (nineteen years ago) link

esbo?

Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 12:11 (nineteen years ago) link

OK, so I didn't accurately count the asterix one per missing letter.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 12:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Actually I think her partner might be a big part of her anxiety. But I can't really see that there's anything I can do about that, is there? She won't tell, and all I can do is try to act as normal as I can around them both, right?

very logged out, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 12:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I dunno. If my sig oth had told me that tale, would I be all like "wow cool tell me all about it" or not? I dunno.

a bit logged out (mark grout), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 12:25 (nineteen years ago) link

when i did this, i lost a few years of my emotional life!! and an indescribable chunk of my psyche!!! bwahah! (friend turned to drugz & prostitution after becoming destitute! which doesnt really have to do w/ me but was just one part of the insanity of ...evreything)

seriously, hope this doesnt happen to you. DON'T stop communicating. whatever u do.

and most importantly - if you ever become close-close again and things go back to normal - don't ever ever ever do it again

Vic in Alderaan (Vic), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 13:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh man... that's a horrible story! :-( So sorry to hear. God, I hope it doesn't come to anything like that! I don't think it will, the worst thing that'll happen is that we'll slip apart, but we both have plenty of other friends (many of them mutual though, I'm afraid...) so it's not like it'll affect our whole lives. I HOPE we'll be able to communicate in a while. And no, it won't ever ever happen again. There were very special circumstances that won't be repeated.

very logged out, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:05 (nineteen years ago) link

was it at least good while it was happening? or was the whole experience negative?

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey, if it ever happened again, at least you'd both know if you wanted it by then.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:19 (nineteen years ago) link

It was fine when it happened. We were extremely drunk needless to say, but neither of us so smashed that we weren't able to take responsibility for our own actions. We were definitely both in on it. Other person pulled away after a while and put an end to it, but I still thought it was ok. Next morning though - a whole different story...

very logged out, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:20 (nineteen years ago) link

oh boy... been in a similar situation. well, with the opposite sex tho. awkwardness for sure. time and space.

of course, we still had to have it out face to face and have a tough discussion that was unpleasant. but that's my way of dealing with things like this. pull the arrows out to heal. but i guess it's what you're comfortable with.

life goes on. friendship can go on. it might help if in the future, you guys hang out in groups with others... buffers.

i dunno. hang in there. it doesn't have to be over.
m.

msp (mspa), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:25 (nineteen years ago) link

was it any good?

kephm (kephm), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Were you hoping for anything else that next morning?

Schwip Schwap (schwip schwap), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:29 (nineteen years ago) link

oh go on, ask if they took photos, why not?

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Look, I know this is a public message board and everything, but, I'd really, really like it if you didn't go there, ok? Please?

very logged out, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link

you've answered the question once, that should be enough for anyone

listen: time will give you perspective. give time a chance to work its funky magic. move on with yr life and let the other person move on with hers. no harm no foul.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:36 (nineteen years ago) link

jesus thats really some of the most insensitive things you can ask when u know very logged out is in distress - xpost

in my case, the person was unstable and had serious mental issues. i was "the friend" who was also "the psychologist," and main emo. support. so when this took place, and the fear arose that there is a true attraction there and it might take place again, there was no direction to go but down.

you have to hopefully make it clear that this will not happen again, despite how on the inside you were okay with it. cliche but true: sex profoundly changes human emotions and the way we relate to one another, so if Friend feels as if everything feel different and she can't look at you the same again, maybe for her things have changed...and you're just going to have to accept that, for now or however long it feels this way to her.

i'd like to think of every relationship as of having a particular flavor - you and your best friend, professor, lover, dog-walker, internet chat-buddy - and when that way of relating changes instantly, it can cause a lot of confuson. you need to make clear that the old way of relating to you is still accessible to her, that that is what you prefer - friend, and not lover.

Vic in Alderaan (Vic), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Vic, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks. Just to clarify: I do not want it to happen again, I wish it hadn't, and I'm fairly certain we both know that this is how we both feel. So yeah, it's probably just a matter of hoping for the best and that friend can just forget and move on, as I think I can.

very logged out, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:49 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah... another example... i got a job working with a best friend and that was fairly disastrous as well.

i've had great friends make horrible roommates also.

weird how that can work.
m.

msp (mspa), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:52 (nineteen years ago) link

well logged out, just don't think Friend will "forget" and move on w/o you trying to make it very clear that you don't want it, didnt want it, and that it was a mistake and doesn't change the way you want to relate to her - as friend, not anything else

i made the classic mistake and did the exact opposite - deciding to try and turn Friend into Lover (selling it as "best of both worlds!!")

in the end, I had neither Friend nor Lover, just massive reams of Guilt that plagued me in my sleep... a longing that couldn't be stilled for a moment of ten months until i learned that Friend had voluntarily thrown Friend's life away, shortly afterwards, anyway

Vic in Alderaan (Vic), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link

i've had great friends make horrible roommates also.

weird how that can work.

Well I can imagine quite easily how some of my great mates would probly drive me up the wall if I lived with them.

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, Vic, I see your point. Right now it's just hard to clarify that to my friend, since friend doesn't want to talk to me or see me. But I'm hoping that it'll be at least a little better soon enough and that we'll be able to have at least a short conversation about it.

Again, so sorry to hear about your experiences... :-(

very logged out, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 15:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I was actually meaning to ask like this-

"I still thought it was ok. Next morning though - a whole different story... "

---were you expecting anything else? It kinda looks like you might've been

-but obv I needed to spell it out more.

Schwip Schwap (schwip schwap), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 15:05 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't tell from your posts if your best friend is gay or not. Is her partner a guy or girl? If it's a guy and this was some startling lesbo encounter, the loathing/ugliness/disgust is very normal. (As much as people want to believe they're "fine" with homosexuality, they tend to freak the fuck out when they're actually involved.) Impulses will dictate that you ignore and deny until the cows come home. One encounter doesn't make you gay or weird or whatever. You (and your friend) need to keep telling yourself that it's okay, this stuff happens all the time, and it won't scar you for life. Sounds like she's having a harder time dealing with it. Don't be surprised if she all of a sudden doesn't want to see you. She's trying to hide from the experience, in effect, making it a much bigger deal than it is. Bad move, but typical.

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 15:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Might not be a bad idea to send an email to the effect of "look, we were obviously both freaked the fuck out by this--you are, I am too--but can we please have a totally awkward and painful but also EXTREMELY open conversation about it in person so that we don't ever have to worry about 'b-b-but what was this other person thinking' ever again, and can therefore eventually figure out to what extent it was less a huge deal than it seems like, stop worrying about it and ideally even be comfortable around each other? Doesn't have to be today, but as soon as possible once the initial shell-shock wears off, please."

Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 15:43 (nineteen years ago) link

So, you slept with your best friend. I MARRIED mine.

pepektheassassin (pepektheassassin), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 15:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, that "neither of us are attracted to the other": you might want to scrutinize your thoughts about that; it is very unusual that sex happens without some kind of attraction on at least one side, barring some outside reason.

Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 15:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I was kinda asking that. Really, how many bestfriend relationships are there where the two are (at least on one's side) sexually compatible (ie gender whatever) but there's no sexual attraction on either side?

Schwip Schwap (schwip schwap), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link

I love my best friend dearly -- she's my partner in crime. But I can honestly say there has never been any sexual attraction mixed into the love I feel for her. And Douglas is so very very OTM.

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I love my best friend dearly -- she's my partner in crime. But I can honestly say there has never been any sexual attraction mixed into the love I feel for her.

This is very much how I feel about my extremely dear friend Stripey. I wouldn't change a thing about the friendship.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Anyway, I sincerely hope that the second half of this thread title is just an expression, not anything more serious than that. Stick around a while more, see what happens, have some fun. It's not all that bad, even if it does seem pretty effed-up right now.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 17:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Haikunym, didn't mean it literally, just that I was very upset.

Well, obviously there was an attraction there when it happened. But there were very unusual circumstances that I don't want to go into detail about. At least I am 100% sure I'm not attracted to her now, and that I won't be. I dare say that it goes for her too. Neither of us are gay (well, we're probably both a bit bi I guess, but I believe most if not all people are, so nothing strange about that). I wasn't expecting anything at all the morning after, except for a hell of a hangover, and was just praying that by some miracle it wasn't going to be as weird between us as it turned out to be. I guess I should have figured she'd be freaking out about it, but hell, I wasn't really thinking, you know.

Anyway, it feels a little bit better now actually, and I've decided to give it a few days, since I know we'll see each other (in company) very soon. I'll just wait and see what that's like, there's a chance it'll not be as bad as I fear. I might be overreacting and over-interpreting her a bit, and I think both our initial turbulent emotions will calm down.

Thanks to everyone who have said wise and sensible things. It's been really helpful.

very logged out, Wednesday, 20 April 2005 12:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I think in this situation I would either i) just pretend it never happened and be too uptight to ever mention it again or ii) just e-mail/text the other one and say "blimey, that was a bit weird. fancy a pint thursday?" . My suspicion is that we can over-analyse things.

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link

It's different for blokes though, isn't it?

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 15:06 (nineteen years ago) link

?

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 15:07 (nineteen years ago) link

!

Vic in Alderaan (Vic), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 15:30 (nineteen years ago) link

*

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 15:47 (nineteen years ago) link

%

So, you slept with your best friend. I MARRIED mine.

-- pepektheassassin (tr3joyc...), April 19th, 2005 12:44 PM.

how's that working out for ya?

Amon (eman), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 16:20 (nineteen years ago) link

i totally want to sleep with my best friend, but i know we shouldn't, and this thread has been a forceful reminder. thanks!

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link

You can say 'look, we did it, it won't happen again, let's do our best to forget it because your friendship means the world to me, and I'd hate to lose it over something as stupid as this.'

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 16:41 (nineteen years ago) link

this really seems like a "time heals all..." situation for me. it probably will be extremely awkward for a while. it might even be worth not seeing the person for a little while.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 16:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Unless the sex was really, really bad you should be able to get over it. See it for what it was - an isolated event and move on. In a way, it's a nice little secret to have from your other mutual friends!

Lara (Lara), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 16:50 (nineteen years ago) link

unless one of you is a blabbermouth.

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 17:35 (nineteen years ago) link

*sshhhhhhhhh*

Lara (Lara), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 17:35 (nineteen years ago) link

V.L.O., since I almost certainly don't know you or your friend, if you want to email me privately & discuss this at all, feel free.

Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:28 (nineteen years ago) link


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