V For Vendetta: The Movie

right, there's that

anyone got any insight as to why the imagery from this film keeps getting adopted by several revolutionary / protest movements across Europe / Egypt / US?/

it has a scene in which unarmed protesters successfully face down tanks and armed men, bringing down a brutal authoritarian regime.

I quite like the film. In some ways it is like the book, and in other ways it is not.

also this was a surprisingly middle-class revolution and they are internet nerds

Moore's work is not aging well at all imo.

re-read his Swamp Thing run recently and that is still a ton of fun

it has a scene in which unarmed protesters successfully face down tanks and armed men, bringing down a brutal authoritarian regime.

uh unarmed except for a train loaded with dynamite that blows up the houses of parliament

(a sequence which - in case it wasn't obvious from my comments above - is most definitely NOT in the book)

i remember seeing that sequence and thinking "yknow all this needs is more slo mo and a moody pixies song"

anyone got any insight as to why the imagery from this film keeps getting adopted by several revolutionary / protest movements across Europe / Egypt / US? I skipped it because it looked horrible, but it seems to keep coming up on news sites so it's looking like something I've got to see

― Milton Parker, Wednesday, June 15, 2011 3:43 PM

u mean the grinning mask? feel like it was first adopted by 4chan/Anonymous as their way of hiding their identity when protesting against Scientology and then spread from there

looooooool

@ justen

movie's not over until something's blowed up amirite

i would have also accepted the ubiquitous "DAH-dah-dah DAH-dah-dah dah-dah, DAH-DAH-DAH DAH-DAH-DAH-DAH-DAH" end pan-out 28 days later music.

more modern movies need to end with "THE END...?"

xpost amon, makes sense. probably most of the times I saw the mask being used were 4chan/Anonymous things hitting my internet-peripheral vision. but when I saw it popping up in the middle east as well, I felt like I was missing something.

it has a scene in which unarmed protesters successfully face down tanks and armed men, bringing down a brutal authoritarian regime.

well that'll do it -- sounds like a contemporary crowd pleaser. I'll be checking it out, it's just silly I found the time for Speed Racer and skipped something like this

more modern movies need to end with "THE END...?"

this can lead to things like the Transformers franchise

V Will Return In...The Spy Who Loved V

t/s "THE END?" vs "THE END" followed by a 5 second pause at which point the question mark dissolves into view

it really depends on the film. If you're talking Inception the former, Black Swan the latter.

well that'll do it -- sounds like a contemporary crowd pleaser. I'll be checking it out, it's just silly I found the time for Speed Racer and skipped something like this

― Milton Parker, Wednesday, June 15, 2011 4:22 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

speed racer was awesome!

still haven't seen "Speed Racer"

sequel to V for Vendetta would've been awesome. bunch of nerds in masks trying to make the trains run on time while ogling Natalie Portman's ass

the villain in speed racer is literally christopher hitchens

so is (one of) the villains in V for Vendetta

dudes are the most inept filmmakers, dunno what anybody sees in them tbh

the first 1.75 Matrix movies are amazing

man i caught the matrix for the first time in eons the other night and i forgot what a balls-out patchwork of other people's ideas it is. those guys have NO SHAME.

^^^

I didn't see it until years later and... yeah, it just annoyed me.

i kinda enjoyed it for just how shameless it was.

uh unarmed except for a train loaded with dynamite that blows up the houses of parliament

I said it has A SCENE in which protesters face down tanks, not that this is the only thing that happens in the film. If that was the only thing that happened in the film it would probably be a bit boring.

it just seems so sloppy. once you get past the novelty of "ooh look they're quoting Beaudrillard!" it's just kind of a mess of ideas that don't really fit together in a coherent way. and, not being a goth, I don't swoon over people in trenchcoats and sunglasses shooting at each other in the rain or whatever... I got a similar cognitive dissonance thing with Inception, where the characters are occupying an imagined/dreamed world but their dreams are all so action-movie conventional.

xp

or, y'know, people are in a war against machines so what tools are they using? more machines. oh, yeah that seems like a bright idea.

yes but you go into entertainment predisposed to hate it

(nb: that was not a serious comment)

This was one of the first ILE threads in which I participated!

i don't know the source material at all but this movie was ridiculously bad

i saw it with friends and said something like, "well that was a turd" as we walked out and they were all >:[. it turned out they all liked it. i learned a valuable lesson about stfu that day.

lol

If the screenwriters had rewritten the movie so that Stephen Fry was the Big Brother, then it would have been awesome.

i saw it with friends and said something like, "well that was a turd" as we walked out and they were all >:[. it turned out they all liked it. i learned a valuable lesson about stfu that day.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, June 15, 2011 9:15 PM (4 minutes ago)

i learned this same lesson at a little movie called 300

ok to be fair i didnt actually lean the lesson of stfu, but i was given the opportunity and squandered it

but yeah tacking on a trad fist-in-the-air we-the-people ending to a story that ended on a vague, disquieting, totally unresolved note was always gonna be an ugh.

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, June 15, 2011 3:28 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haha yeah before i realized how much i was alienating everyone i was like, "isn't that ending kind of...fascist?"

i saw it with friends and said something like, "well that was a turd" as we walked out and they were all >:[. it turned out they all liked it. i learned a valuable lesson about stfu that day.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, June 15, 2011 5:15 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

hope you learned a valuable lesson about friends too

the answer is yes, totally

xp

It's an unpleasant experience watching a would-be blockbuster with the wrong kind of friends.

aw they're nice people! seriously, i have learned that many people don't want to jump into an impassioned argument about whether a movie was horrible/the best ever immediately after seeing it.

have there been any other recent movies about mass uprisings/civil unrest/rebellion (or whatever)? this is the only one i can think of, which might explain why its imagery's been coopted by contemporary protest movements/scientology-hating nerds

horseshoe i had the same experience as you after seeing the matrix 2 at midnight with a bunch of people. there is a photo somehwere of me w/ like a dozen people and they are all giving a thumbs up and i am the only person in the group giving a thumbs down

i feel as though i have been vindicated by history

i feel like you have posted about that before and it made me lol on that occasion as well

haha probably. it was a formative experience in my time as a young contrarian. i have to find that photo