They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

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latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:16 (9 years ago) Permalink

They already remade that.

Huk-L, Friday, 11 February 2005 15:19 (9 years ago) Permalink

its a shot-by-shot remake by gus van sant's cousin's uncle's son.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

Starring Leeza Gibbons as Ripley.

Huk-L, Friday, 11 February 2005 15:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

it stars sigourney weavers wrinkled bean as the alien

Big Baby Bingo (Chris V), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:30 (9 years ago) Permalink

& John Tesh as The Alien?

xpost - same thing.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:30 (9 years ago) Permalink

HA! Its also plays the key-tar.

Big Baby Bingo (Chris V), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

In space, no one can check out your legs...

Huk-L, Friday, 11 February 2005 15:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

shes playing the android, ash!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

all the characters were written as geder-neutral anyway.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

Doo-doo-doo-doo-doooooooooo

Huk-L, Friday, 11 February 2005 15:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

*gender-neutral

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

For the Aliens remake, Pat O'Brien can be the Paul Reiser character. Or he can just be the chest burster in this one.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:01 (9 years ago) Permalink

What's the point?

jel -- (jel), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:16 (9 years ago) Permalink

The point?

Huk-L, Friday, 11 February 2005 18:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

Is that still gonna be a Predator ship in the beginning?

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:18 (9 years ago) Permalink

I dunno, I just think someone's trying to make some money or something.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:19 (9 years ago) Permalink

It's actually a fundraiser for the South Laguna Public Library Defense Fund.

Huk-L, Friday, 11 February 2005 18:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

Then I'm all for it!

jel -- (jel), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

What's the point?
-- jel -- (freeduni...), February 11th, 2005.

see post at the tippy-top o' the thread;-)

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:27 (9 years ago) Permalink

4 years pass...

I want to cry.

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/16328

In January we broke the news that Robert Rodriguez's Troublemaker Studios would be producing a reboot of Predator for 20th Century Fox. Our regular tipster was proven correct once again as the story was confirmed in April. Our tipster even scooped us on who would be penning the remake, now titled Predators.

So Mr. Anonymous is back again. And being that 20th Century Fox is remaking Predator, it doesn't surprise me at all that Fox is also going back to their catalog for a reboot of Ridley Scott's Alien.

What our tipster informed us is that - opposite the Predator situation - the plan is to stick with the original concept of only one alien on the ship.

Michael Costigan, Ridley Scott and even Tony Scott are all on board to produce and have tapped Carl Rinsch to get beyond the camera and bring a new Ripley to the big screen.

Who is Carl Rinsch? I'm being told he's a commercial/music video director and does work for Scott Free Productions, who is also producing the remake.

In the original, the terror begins when the crew of a spaceship investigates a transmission from a desolate planet, and discovers a life form that is perfectly evolved to annihilate mankind. One by one, each crew member is slain until only Ripley is left, leading to an explosive conclusion that sets the stage for its stunning sequel, Aliens (my favorite film of all-time).

We'll keep you posted on any updates, but that's what we got for you this evening. Remember to take it as rumor until confirmed as many projects change through the course of development.

Vokuhila (latebloomer), Thursday, 28 May 2009 17:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

look what you did

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Thursday, 28 May 2009 17:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

shia lebeouf will def be alien

cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 28 May 2009 17:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

I figured this would happen, being that after all the bad sequels and AVP flicks the only logical way to milk the series was to go back to square one. But it doesn't hurt any less.

Vokuhila (latebloomer), Thursday, 28 May 2009 17:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

What is the purpose of this?

Predator, who cares. It was stupid to begin with and can probably only improve in Rodriguez's hands. But Alien was absolutely perfect as is. Waaaaaah!

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 28 May 2009 17:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

However, if Pat O'Brien is actually cast as the Alien this will become a must-see

Vokuhila (latebloomer), Thursday, 28 May 2009 17:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

robert rodriguez isn't 1/10th the director that mctiernan is

blair underwood: "man up" (omar little), Thursday, 28 May 2009 17:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

Alien 3D

StanM, Thursday, 28 May 2009 17:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

Who won when Alien fought Predator?

henry s, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

i hope this is like star trek, showing how the young version of the original alien learned how to become the alien he is today

s1ocki, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

also i hope it is set at alien academy

s1ocki, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

do you mean the lumen of a person's gut???

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

also i hope it is set at alien academy

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Vokuhila (latebloomer), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:15 (5 years ago) Permalink

What's that company that makes knockoff movies to coincide with releases? I have this theory that the only way to stop this revival madness is to saturate the market with so many degraded versions that any public appetite for them would be obliterated. ALIEN FANFICTION TO THE RESCUE

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:18 (5 years ago) Permalink

x-post

It could be like a more tragic Top Gun, where a fresh young facehugger falls in love with his instructor, a human woman. She dies in an accident, but a hundred years later he meets her great-graddaughter in the events of the first Alien.

Vokuhila (latebloomer), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

that granddaughter? veronica cartright.

Vokuhila (latebloomer), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

Legally Blonde Alien, with Reese Witherspoon

When a blonde sorority queen alien is dumped by her boyfriend, she decides to follow him to his planet to get him back and, once there, learns she has more legal savvy than she ever imagined.

StanM, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

Alien Brockovich, with Julia Roberts

An unemployed single alien mother becomes a legal assistant and almost single-handedly brings down a global power company accused of polluting a planet's water supply.

StanM, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

Wasn't that the plot of Erin Brockovich?

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

It's a tribute script.

StanM, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

How's this for high-concept: A remake of Predator starring the Alien as Predator.

Vokuhila (latebloomer), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

re: alien brockovic -- I was making bad joke about Julia Roberts looking not quite human, having second mouth.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

Would pay to see Ordinary Aliens dir. by Redford.

resistance is feudal (WmC), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

Chestburst On The 4th Of July

StanM, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

AVPVSW

Alien vs Predator vs Sand Worms (from Dune)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

all human roles portrayed by Tracy Morgan

Vokuhila (latebloomer), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

Who won when Alien fought Predator?

the predalien, duh

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

i would like to see a movie about an alien-human war done in the style of the thin red line

s1ocki, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

Why is it that every movie franchise is all about remakes and reboots these days? Doesn't anybody believe in sequels anymore? Personally, I would've wanted to know what happened after the ending of Alien 4, but apparently no one else cares.

Tuomas, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

excited (really!) to see how Exodus will complete the trilogy begun with Prometheus and The Counselor.

ryan, Thursday, 31 July 2014 15:07 (2 months ago) Permalink

The Counselor almost makes more sense as part of the Prometheus mythos

mh, Thursday, 31 July 2014 15:13 (2 months ago) Permalink

lol

SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 31 July 2014 16:20 (2 months ago) Permalink

cant wait till Disney gets a hold of this franchise

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Saturday, 9 August 2014 20:38 (2 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

was just thumbing through some old Kirby comics and lol space jockey (1976):

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 17:29 (1 month ago) Permalink

!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 17:33 (1 month ago) Permalink

Kirby invented everything

Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 17:52 (1 month ago) Permalink

I'm talking about the Nintendo character of course

Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 17:52 (1 month ago) Permalink

is it wrong that i get kinda stoked every time i see this thread revived?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 20:37 (1 month ago) Permalink

depends, are you looking forward to the sequel

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 20:50 (1 month ago) Permalink

holy shit at that kirby drawing, what's the comic?

I guess it's the kind of thing lots of people could have simultaneously come up with - it's basically taking WW2 pilot imagery and finding it horrifying and alien rather than heroic could be your basic post-Vietnam, post-60s reconsideration of humans' enmeshment in the electronic and mechanical apparatus (military or otherwise).

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 22:46 (1 month ago) Permalink

that's all just stock chariots of the gods imagery tho right?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 22:52 (1 month ago) Permalink

that is Eternals No. 1 from July 1976. I have no idea if it influenced Giger's original design or not but both were shopping their artwork around Hollywood studios and optioning things for film rights around the same time.

The overall concept (space gods intervening in Earth's evolution to produce humans and OTHER THINGS) is not unique to Kirby at all but he puts his own spin on it and as far as this particular conception of the dead-god-in-a-ship imagery I would say that no, there is no one else that would have done it the way Kirby did, dude was unique and one-of-a-kind.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 22:56 (1 month ago) Permalink

I'm with you Tracer!

JacobSanders, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 23:05 (1 month ago) Permalink

as this particular conception of the dead-god-in-a-ship imagery I would say that no, there is no one else that would have done it the way Kirby did, dude was unique and one-of-a-kind.

I'd second that. Love Kirby. Not knowing much about him at this level, I'd also hazard a guess that he was the kind of old-school illustrator who really did that stuff how-to-draw books tell you to do - collecting National Geographic and museum catalogs and shit for reference imagery. If it has a Von Daniken quality, it's probably because Kirby spent some time studying and sketching Egyptian and Mesoamerican art - but again, just speculating.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 23:07 (1 month ago) Permalink

speculations probably correct afaik. I do recall reading he kept stacks of stuff like Popular Mechanics and Nat'l Geo by his drawing board, and he pretty obviously used stuff like that for his collage work.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 23:35 (1 month ago) Permalink

important find imo!

resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 23:42 (1 month ago) Permalink

his reference material/collage work is a know thing, he was just less-known for collage than Steranko, etc due to his depth of work

⌘-B (mh), Thursday, 25 September 2014 01:18 (1 month ago) Permalink

I think Kirby was an army map maker during WWII. Always felt that informed him and the crazy-geometricness somehow. I love Kirby conspiracy theories about space gnosis/cosmic ascension. My fave is his adaptation of 2001: A Space Odyssey - the monthly series version is completely bonkers.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 25 September 2014 01:45 (1 month ago) Permalink

Kirby was a visionary, no doubt. Especially evident when he was left to writing and drawing (and editing!) his own work. I wouldn't be surprised if his space jockey idea was - erm - jacked by H'Wood. O'Bannon, Scott, et al were big comics fans.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 25 September 2014 02:01 (1 month ago) Permalink

From the Grantland interview with the dudes who did "The Guest:"

Speaking of underappreciated: Adam, you have to make your case for Prometheus, a movie that most people hate, but a small minority really enjoy. Why does it do it for you?

Wingard: Because it’s a massive, epic kind of disaster of a movie. It doesn’t make any sense really, it’s all over the place, but there’s a genuine stylization to the film that I’ve never seen before. It’s one of the best-looking movies that’s come out in the last 30 years. The cinematography’s incredible, the sets are incredible. I’m a sucker for sci-fi films, but on top of that I absolutely just love Michael Fassbender’s character in it. If he wasn’t in that film, the movie would be kind of a disaster because those other characters don’t really hold up, you know? But he’s an iconic character. I love so-called movies that are bad movies, but Prometheus is one of those movies that people are gonna come back around on in 20 years. There’s gonna be midnight screenings of that thing. People were too hard on it because they wanted Alien and it’s not Alien. I was disappointed when I first saw it, but then when I realized that after the screening we had a two-hour discussion of the film, just trying to figure out how the creatures in that film work. Like the liquid goes into your glass and then you have sex with somebody, and then they have an alien and you melt and turn into a zombie person. We were just trying to figure out what is going on in this movie. I kept watching it in the theater — I ended up watching it like three times — and each time I went with a different group of people, and each time it resulted in another two-hour conversation. I was like, “This never happens,” and that’s why I think this movie’s brilliant. It really is on its own level.

http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/the-guest-adam-wingard-simon-barrett-dan-stevens-halloween-the-terminator-1980s-movies/

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 September 2014 02:27 (1 month ago) Permalink

Idk if incoherency is a virtue in and of itself

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 September 2014 02:41 (1 month ago) Permalink

Incoherence even

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 September 2014 02:41 (1 month ago) Permalink

So this guy's standards for greatness is whether people can argue for hours about something that made no sense and had no thought put into it? And he's not on ILX?

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 25 September 2014 03:18 (1 month ago) Permalink

Somebody dispense an invitation on a vellum scroll to him at once!

folk punks: stop bragg-ing (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 25 September 2014 03:19 (1 month ago) Permalink

Not knowing much about him at this level, I'd also hazard a guess that he was the kind of old-school illustrator who really did that stuff how-to-draw books tell you to do - collecting National Geographic and museum catalogs and shit for reference imagery.

Most newspaper strip and comic book artists would accumulate what they commonly called a 'Swipe File' - ie visual reference for all kinds of objects, places, costumes etc. Wally Wood was meant to have a particularly impressive Swipe File. And Kirby was known to take his collages from science mags and the like. He was also very definitely a commercial artist, and his work often riffed on popular trends (ie Planet of the Apes in Kamandi, James Bond movies in Nick Fury) - so yeah, the Eternals was definitely Kirby's response to Chariot of the Gods, filtered through his own cosmic imagination.

By the time of the Eternals, Kirby had also been exposed to the work of the French comics artist Phillipe Druillet, who Dan O'Bannon would've known from working on Jodorowsky's Dune. So I think Kirby was also responding to that Metal Hurlant-style of cosmic excess, and that possibly accounts for some of the Alien-vibe that that Eternals spread gives off (although equally, I'm sure someone like Moebius was familiar with Kirby's work by the time he came to work on Alien). Separating all this out is interesting, but difficult.

his reference material/collage work is a know thing, he was just less-known for collage than Steranko, etc due to his depth of work

Well Steranko's early style is basically Kirby + Pop Art. Kirby laid out all of Steranko's early Marvel work, and by the time they worked together on Nick Fury, Kirby had already been using collaged material extensively in the pages of Fantastic Four. So I think Steranko's use of collage was almost certainly directed by Kirby's prior example. Kirby of course based the character of Mister Miracle partly on Steranko, so I don't think there was any hostility on Jack's part towards Steranko running with/expanding on his bag of tricks.

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 25 September 2014 07:57 (1 month ago) Permalink

It's been years since I've read von Däniken, but IIRC one of his books has a piece of South American indigenous art where a god is sitting inside a chariot (which Däniken of course interprets as an alien astronaut inside a spaceship), and the composition of the pic is similar to Giger's Space Jockey and the Kirby panel above. So maybe both Kirby and Giger were simply inspired by that instead of Giger copying Kirby?

Tuomas, Thursday, 25 September 2014 08:20 (1 month ago) Permalink

Number None, Thursday, 25 September 2014 09:33 (1 month ago) Permalink

I love so-called movies that are bad

you'll never guac amole (wins), Thursday, 25 September 2014 11:10 (1 month ago) Permalink

That guy is how you say an idiot

you'll never guac amole (wins), Thursday, 25 September 2014 11:11 (1 month ago) Permalink

No alien/xenomorph in P2, says Ridders:

"The beast is done. Cooked. I got lucky meeting Giger all those years ago. It's very hard to repeat that. I just happen to be the one who forced it through because they said it's obscene. They didn't want to do it, and I said I want to do it, it's fantastic".
"After four, I think it wears out a little bit. There's only so much snarling you can do. I think you've got to come back with something more interesting. And I think we've found the next step. I thought the Engineers were quite a good start".

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Thursday, 25 September 2014 11:27 (1 month ago) Permalink

Great post, Ward Fowler, thanks.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 25 September 2014 14:16 (1 month ago) Permalink

Not surprised that a director fond of unpredictable, ambiguous tones would love movies that show massive ambition and complete incompetence at the same time

da croupier, Thursday, 25 September 2014 14:26 (1 month ago) Permalink

Yeah, arguing about a movie that makes no sense for two hours is a low bar for its merit. I'd like to think most of this thread is so-called schadenfreude.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 September 2014 14:27 (1 month ago) Permalink

someone said "hey Adam talk about why you like Prometheus" and he did, its not like he wrote an article headlined Why Everything You Thought About Prometheus Is Wrong

da croupier, Thursday, 25 September 2014 14:29 (1 month ago) Permalink

is it not possible to imagine someone enjoying the style and ambience of a movie that does not make sense?

A college wearing a sweater that says “John Belushi” (stevie), Thursday, 25 September 2014 14:33 (1 month ago) Permalink

every generation gets the 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY it deserves

resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 25 September 2014 15:00 (1 month ago) Permalink

is it not possible to imagine someone enjoying the style and ambience of a movie that does not make sense?

a question for the Tarkovsky fans

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 September 2014 15:06 (1 month ago) Permalink

Or fans of a lot of art, literature, movies and music of the past hundred years plus.

folk punks: stop bragg-ing (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 25 September 2014 17:50 (1 month ago) Permalink

Thing is the Incas, Mayans, Aztecs didn't have chariots

cardamon, Thursday, 25 September 2014 19:45 (1 month ago) Permalink

OR DID THEY

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 September 2014 19:55 (1 month ago) Permalink

They didn't, but their gods did. Little known fact.

bippity bup at the hotel california (Phil D.), Thursday, 25 September 2014 20:03 (1 month ago) Permalink

I thought it was frequently a beautiful-looking movie, but I still didn't like it

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Friday, 26 September 2014 03:27 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

I think the thing with this movie is that there are moments where there is a better film waiting to chestburst out of it (sorry) but it never really happens so there's a frustration/fascination level with it.

Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Friday, 26 September 2014 04:08 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

Alex Jones weighing in:

lold jamar (lpz), Friday, 26 September 2014 04:59 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

My earlier post got eaten but yeah, Chariots of the Gods was all over the 70s, wasn't it? To the point of Glen Larson reffing it in the original BSG

Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Friday, 26 September 2014 06:16 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

I still think the line "Damn it, just give me a space abortion!" should have been in the film

⌘-B (mh), Friday, 26 September 2014 13:49 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

"I'm sorry, you have to wait 72 space hours and get a space sonogram."

bippity bup at the hotel california (Phil D.), Friday, 26 September 2014 13:52 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

;_;

⌘-B (mh), Friday, 26 September 2014 14:00 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

A. J. is the worst but I have to say, an issue of LIFE from the '60s is a pretty dope prop

los blue jeans, Saturday, 27 September 2014 02:52 (4 weeks ago) Permalink


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