1. Okay. Remarkably coherent for such a long book; esp. for a first novel (although, maybe that has nothing to do with it).2. And yet: is there any, any at all, excuse for an adult novel to use words like "Faerie," "Fairy" et al in a kind of literal way? (answer: no. Ick. 3. Snivling, John Le Carre way of imitating the author's imagining of the way politicians speak (maybe politicians in Britain do sound this way. Ugh.) "The Admiralty are very interested in magic. The top men in the country are seeing to it. All very hush hush."
On the other hand, this hot link generator is totally cool. Click "link magic" in the left hand tool bar. Awesome!
― EComplex (EComplex), Thursday, 30 December 2004 06:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 30 December 2004 06:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 30 December 2004 06:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 30 December 2004 06:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 30 December 2004 07:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 30 December 2004 07:04 (nineteen years ago) link
But I did enjoy reading it. I guess I hoped for more given how well handled a lot of it was. But there's no reason ever to use the word "fairy" except as a slur. It's a rule, you see. I don't enforce the rules; I just make them.
― EComplex (EComplex), Thursday, 30 December 2004 07:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 30 December 2004 07:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 30 December 2004 07:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Monday, 23 October 2006 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Monday, 23 October 2006 23:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 00:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 00:22 (seventeen years ago) link
That's the only thing I found interesting at all. But you really had to read between the lines to get at it, since everything else about it was fussbudgety as all getout.
― It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 00:25 (seventeen years ago) link
I'm about halfway through this now. It's been fun to read; I like the footnotes a lot.
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 16:18 (sixteen years ago) link
i liked this book a bunch.
god "ecomplex" was kind of annoying with his fruity fonts and colours
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link
our own baby drudge
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 16:56 (sixteen years ago) link
I got about a third of the way in before I decided the returns were so diminished that there was no point in my continuing. There was certainly no indication that the style or tone (which is what was driving me crazy) would change.
this is very OTM about my experience of this book.
― Ed, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 16:58 (sixteen years ago) link
if you start reading a book expecting the style or tone to change, i believe you will be disappointed most of the time.
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 16:59 (sixteen years ago) link
true true,
This book needed a severe editing.
― Ed, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 17:00 (sixteen years ago) link
Barely remember reading this now.
― chap, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link
> if you start reading a book expecting the style or tone to change, i believe you will be disappointed most of the time.
-- s1ocki, Tuesday, March 25, 2008 4:59 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
Indeed, but it happens enough that it isn't totally pointless.
― Oilyrags, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Hello.
http://www.denofgeek.com/tv/jonathan-strange-mr-norrell/23665/jonathan-strange-mr-norrell-coming-to-the-bbc
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 November 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link
haha I don't remember this book at all BTW
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Friday, 30 November 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
Then you can enjoy the series anew.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 November 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
tempted to go searching for other EComplex threads to revive
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Friday, 30 November 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Friday, November 30, 2012 2:15 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lolll i was just thinking the exact same thing.
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Friday, 30 November 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link
It keeps ending up on hold/being checked out here at the library so there's a cult of some sort.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 November 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, I've had a still shrink wrapped copy of this book for, like, a decade.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 November 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link
i have this on my bookshelf still but barely remember a thing about it except that it took a good 2/3s of the (lengthy) book before it went all high fantasy on you
― ciderpress, Friday, 30 November 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
I love this book and I'm super excited about this TV show.
― carl agatha, Friday, 30 November 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
Read an interview with Dylan Carlson recently where he said this was his favourite ever book
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 30 November 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
Said it inspired him to start researching the faerie folk of Olde Englande iirc
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 30 November 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link
incredible book
― bill paxman (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 December 2012 02:37 (eleven years ago) link
i got about 50 pages into this after it won the hugo and had to stop because the prose was like drinking a teacup full of sawdust.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Saturday, 1 December 2012 02:45 (eleven years ago) link
omg squeee!!
love love this book! it's so hard to convince people to read it though, bcz it's so dense and ugh seeming when you start out. so many people give up :(
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 1 December 2012 02:50 (eleven years ago) link
pvmic
I read this on a New Year's cruise iirc. I think I liked it ok. Pretty much don't remember anything about it!
― wongo hulkington's jade palace late night buffet (silby), Saturday, 1 December 2012 02:59 (eleven years ago) link
Dense and ugh seeming when you first start out are some of my favorite qualities in books, seriously.
― carl agatha, Saturday, 1 December 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link
me too
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 1 December 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link
Do you also like Dickens or Dickensian things? If so, I recommend The Quincunx by Charles Palliser if you haven't read it yet. It's about as dense and initially ugh seeming as you can get, plus it's historical fiction (my other favorite quality).
― carl agatha, Saturday, 1 December 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link
Plus shit like it's got five books divided into five parts divided into five chapters and a family crest of five quatrefoil roses, I mean I can just imagine Palliser sitting in a room festooned with index cards and photos and maps with everything so interconnected by pushpinned strands of yarn that nobody can get in and he can't leave and he probably still can't buy fruit unless he buys five pieces of each kind.
― carl agatha, Saturday, 1 December 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
carl agatha, that sounds great! I carried Jonathan Strange and Dr. Norrell around in my kindle for a stupid long time but read it earlier this year - really enjoyed it, and had no idea what it was about when I finally started it.
― Jaq, Saturday, 1 December 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link
wonder twins activate! Quincunx is one of my faves!
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 1 December 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
Great book, I've lately been thinking about re-reading it. Looking forward to the mini-series.
― Moodles, Saturday, 1 December 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link
vg, I suspect that the Venn diagram of our interests would just be two nearly-overlapping circles.
― carl agatha, Saturday, 1 December 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link
ILX USA vg/ca FAP at the next Vegan Star Trek convention, meet you at the DS9 merch table.
― carl agatha, Saturday, 1 December 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
Vegan Star Trek convention loool!!! I'm guessing that was meant to be Vegas? Tee hee
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 1 December 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link
hahaha YES
I can't even blame autocorrect for that...
― carl agatha, Saturday, 1 December 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link
Is gagh vegan?
let's go with yes ;)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 1 December 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link
bump
first episode airs tonight on BBC America - I am excite!
However I tried to relate the plot to Mr Veg and realized I could recall almost nothing except 'erm there's these two magicians, one's kind of a dick and...."
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 14 June 2015 02:02 (eight years ago) link
(carl agatha: I'm still anxiously anticipating the Vegan Star Trek convention)
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 14 June 2015 02:03 (eight years ago) link
this was pretty great!!! the story came flooding back to me almost at once
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 14 June 2015 05:54 (eight years ago) link
LOL
Chicago's convention was this weekend. I'd love to take Ivy someday but this year she was the perfect age to not enjoy it and also ruin everyone else's time.
― from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Sunday, 14 June 2015 12:18 (eight years ago) link
so funny, I remember burrowing right through this and totally enjoying it, but like several others above I can't remember much of anythimg about it! huh.
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 14 June 2015 13:47 (eight years ago) link
we've all been glamoured
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 14 June 2015 14:37 (eight years ago) link
This is available on Amazon streaming, although not Prim, but since it's one of my favorite books I bought it. Only partway through the first episode but so far so good - captures the wry humor of the book really well, and Eddie Marsan is a great Mr. Norrell. I'm not as sold on J. Strange, but that's probably because I have a very specific idea of him in my head. I think I'll come to accept him in time.
― carl agatha, Friday, 31 July 2015 19:50 (eight years ago) link
he gets better, imo
i thought they did a pretty good job of squishing that huge book into a mini seriesi enjoyed it alot!!
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 31 July 2015 20:14 (eight years ago) link
He does get better! He's fantastic. I am loving this.
SPOILER ALERTTTTTTTTT
Does he kill somebody at Waterloo in the book? I can't remember!
― carl agatha, Friday, 14 August 2015 19:47 (eight years ago) link
i have no idea
i barely remember the book :(
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 14 August 2015 20:16 (eight years ago) link