Boulder the "most liberal city" in Colorado?

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Yet another article about Boulder
that makes it sound pretty pent-up and weird.

Right after someone in this thread stated that Boulder would be the most liberal city in Vermont if it were there. Hmm.

Richard K (Richard K), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

I work in Boulder. It is just weird, not much else but that.

planescapin' 'til dawn (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 16:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

It is mostly just weird, agreed.

A visiting, very lefty law professor of mine from Eugene, living in Boulder for the year, proclaimed Boulder to be a miserable fraud, mostly just a bunch of smug very rich liberals with the luxury of opinions that they can afford. I do think that the city just outsources is sprawl to Louisville and Longmont. But then, I guess people have to live somewhere, and if they packed more folks into Boulder property values might drop. Nonetheless, the traffic in town really sucks bad.

Compared to the Springs, Boulder is communist.

Hunter (Hunter), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 16:59 (9 years ago) Permalink

Compared to the Spring, Alabama is pro-gay.

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 17:16 (9 years ago) Permalink

Hunter OTM. I hate driving here in the morning. My co-workers say, "But why not just move closer?" Fuck no, I ain't living in Boulder.

planescapin' 'til dawn (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 17:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

Okay so i was exaggerating about boulder being the most liberal city in vermont in the other thread. but let's see what we have in boulder:

2 types of college students: those who are there to study, and those who are there to ski. and rock climb. and drink inordinate amounts of alcohol. mostly liberal, although i'm not sure how many of them come from places in colorado that aren't boulder or denver.

ex-hippies: lived in boulder back in the day, are either raising their kids now to be liberal, or have already done that and seen them off to college or wherever at which point they cease being ex-hippies and start simply being hippies again.

exceedingly rich people: who knows their political viewpoint.

the thing is, maybe boulderites think of their city as being really liberal because the 3 conservatives who write in to the paper every day tell us we are. but i don't think in my 15 years of living there i ever actually encountered and talked to one conservative expressing their views openly. and hey, at least it's not the Springs.


A visiting, very lefty law professor of mine from Eugene, living in Boulder for the year, proclaimed Boulder to be a miserable fraud, mostly just a bunch of smug very rich liberals with the luxury of opinions that they can afford.

liberal city FITE!!!!!!

lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 17:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

I got the impression there were also lots of hippie students there thanks to Naropa. Although this may've been the people I hung out with, who used to complain that their classmates would get up and leave the room like zombies if a drum circle started during a class session.

sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 17:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

the whole Naropa thing is funny. Boulder has the secondmost number of buddhists in any city North America (Halifax being the first), many of whom are some pretty bottom-rung hippies. you wouldn't want to meet these people for lunch. they can't talk about things in normal terms - they think every word they say has at least three meanings, and thus, everything is really deep. However, the founder of Naropa, Chögyam Trungpa (the person who is pretty much solely responsible for bringing Tibetan Buddhism to North America) wouldn't come across like that at all. he was probably one of the least hippie-ish people imaginable.

Needless to say, being a buddhist from Boulder, i do think that there are a lot of very clear minded buddhists and Naropa students who really can't be grouped into any category. i know quite a few and would hate to see them pigeonholed because some idiots are busy Traversing the Spiritual Plane.

lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 17:52 (9 years ago) Permalink

I read the other day about some musician chick who commuted daily to Naropa by bike. From Ned! If she rode it both ways, she had to be pretty fucking fit.

I keep imagining some hippie girl riding up Magnolia with a guitar on her back.

Hunter (Hunter), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 17:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

i can't even imagine riding up magnolia on a bike, but there have to be people in boulder who do. i bet those people could also do be like this guy

lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:00 (9 years ago) Permalink

wait, lemin, do you live in boulder or did you USED to live in boulder?

planescapin' 'til dawn (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:03 (9 years ago) Permalink

That guy can do be pretty well!

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

Needless to say, being a buddhist from Boulder, i do think that there are a lot of very clear minded buddhists and Naropa students who really can't be grouped into any category.

I didn't mean to pigeonhole anyone, I should say also I liked the atmosphere when I'd visit the campus occasionally, since it reminded me of my undergrad college, a place that also had a visible (but by no means majority) hippie-kid presence.

I think my friends were making fun of a very visible group of people who seemed to put their hippie cred above anything else they might do, and with my lack of knowledge about Naropa/Boulder I didn't know if my friends (former students) were the exception or the rule.

Which is all to reiterate that my impression above is only an impression. I used to notice a lot of prayer flags whenever I'd walk around my neighborhood in Denver, many more so than in any other US city I've ever lived in. Do you know what the buddhist pop. in Denver is?

sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

(xposts to lemin, obv. And how are you Mandee? I miss you!)

sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:06 (9 years ago) Permalink

I'm good sarah!! I miss you, too! How you doin'?

planescapin' 'til dawn (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:09 (9 years ago) Permalink

Can't complain :) This thread is bringing on the ROcky Mountain Nostalgia. I should totally get like a messenger program or something.

sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:10 (9 years ago) Permalink

xposts
no worries sgs, i'm just trying to bring to light popular misconceptions. i don't know about the buddhist population in denver, but it's definitely not as big as boulder's.

more xposts
right. typo. gotcha.

xposting til the break of dawn
i'm in NYC now but go back to boulder for the summers.

lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:11 (9 years ago) Permalink

geez, thanks to cable news warping my brain, every time i hear "boulder" i think "jon benet ramsey".

Emilymv (Emilymv), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

which is funny, i think, because nobody who actually lives in boulder hears those words at all until they travel somewhere else

lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:13 (9 years ago) Permalink

i saw the magnetic fields, play in boulder, last saturday. they said that boulder is the san francisco of the midwest.

planescapin' 'til dawn (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

if only it had trollies! or does it.

sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:16 (9 years ago) Permalink

oh god i can't imagine.... trollies would be hilarious

lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

Wow, I was just in Boulder last week. First time I've ever visited the area (or Colorado for that matter.) I had a blast! Nice town. The weather was fantastic. We wore T-shirts and hiked up the .. what is it called, "Royal Arch"? I think that's the name. It was amazing. Saw John Cale play at the Boulder Theater, he was pretty entertaining. Pretty good food, too. There is one hell of a kick-ass happy-hour place there on that pedestrian mall area (Pearl Street, is that it?) can't remember what it's called now. I really liked the town (and Denver as well)

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:18 (9 years ago) Permalink

"Mork and Mindy" was set in Boulder.

Nemo (JND), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:19 (9 years ago) Permalink

Stormy, you thinking of Boulder Café? all appetizers half off? fondue? drink specials?

lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

Denver is better than Boulder. It's a household fact.

planescapin' 'til dawn (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

I once went to a bar in Boulder that was mostly non-smoking except for a glassed-in section in the middle. It was as if the smokers were in a fish tank. Some of the people I was with pointed at them and tapped on the glass, but I tried to refrain. Instead I watched a lot of people play pool and talked small-talk to some girls about making jewelry.

...and I agree with Mandee on that one.

sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

lemin -- yup, that's the one! I remember cuz the people sitting outside had the fondue plate. But yeah, 1/2 off draft beers and everything on the raw bar for two hours?? That's insane. We ate like kings. The prevalence of all the micro-brews is a big big point in the area's favor, lemme tellya.

I loved Denver too. What a nice town.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

haha you're probably right. i'd much rather tell people i'm from denver than boulder. too bad it's too well known a city for me to just pass it off as being "near denver"
xpost

lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

Stormy, just had to ask about that because i worked there over the summer. pretty good food too.

lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:25 (9 years ago) Permalink

I was disappointed to learn that that Milennium Bridge was not by Calatrava, just someone ripping him off. Looks nice though. That whole area -- that's "LoDo", right? -- is really cool.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

Mark occasionally says he misses Denver, and when I ask him why, he always says something about "the vibe." I find this endearing, but I might not call what I miss about Denver a vibe.

sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:27 (9 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, it's pretty nice, too bad it's taken over by frat boys on the weekends.

planescapin' 'til dawn (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:27 (9 years ago) Permalink

Boy you got that right......

Hunter (Hunter), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

I went to the Denver Art Museum last weekend, and looked over the new expansion program - (www.denverartmuseum.org) -- really, the best part of the entire museum was the "guest book" that people could sign and say what they thought of the new expansion program. Pretty much everyone agreed it looks hideous. Some people even drew some evil clowns.

Sgs, I kinda feel the Denver vibe, and I

planescapin' 'til dawn (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:30 (9 years ago) Permalink

How come my message was cut off? This is nuts.

Anyhow what I was saying is that I really like Denver now, and I feel like it's a pretty cool place, but when people visit I start to feel self-conscious about it, like it's not as RADICAL as I originally thought. I definitely like it here better than I did when I lived here before (February of 2003 through September 2003).

Although Lost Lake is going to be no more in 2 months time which is going to make Denver 100x lamer.

planescapin' 'til dawn (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:32 (9 years ago) Permalink

is lost lake's population dispersing to other environs? I miss warehouse-type parties. Denver was the only place I ever went to stuff like that.

I was sad to leave, there were things about it I really loved, people and my 'hood, but the suckassness of DU and how much I hated teaching cast an unfortunate pall over my time, especially after I'd spent so much effort moving there. I still think it's a pretty cool place though, it felt like half-town, half-city sometimes, with mostly the good parts of each. As in, there are plenty of good and great things but it's as if you have to know to look for them in a way, they're not on display as much as they are in a larger city.

I'd like to visit there again. I didn't do as much as I could've there--didn't go to the art museum, or any museums really, which is nuts 'cuz I heart museums. It must've been a weird time in my life.

sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 19:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

Yes, lost lake's population is dispersing... they have a problem with break-ins (Mike's car has been stolen, then he got it back, and it's been broken into 4 times since then). Last weekend three cars were broken into. I think they've just had enough.

planescapin' 'til dawn (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 19:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

yeargh! no wonder.

sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 19:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

I didn't catch any frat-boy vibe in Denver but then again I was only there for two nights. I dunno. I've lived in Chicago for the last 14 years and if I ever thought about moving, I could definitely see that area next on the list. I don't need it to be RADICAL. I'm too old for RADICAL anyway. I just want to like, sip microbrews and hike in the Rocky Mountain National forest. Oh, I forgot to mention we went up to Estes Park and saw elk and bighorns too! Awesome.

Have any of y'all been to that restaurant up the mountain outside Boulder? the Flagstaff Inn I guess it's called? We were on too tight a budget and too underdressed but it looked cool.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 20:52 (9 years ago) Permalink

Stormy Davis, I am pretty poor and never go to nice restaurants.

:(

Denver is probably a bit more expensive than Chicago, but not much more.

planescapin' 'til dawn (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 20:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

oh, flagstaff. sooooooooo expensive. i'm thinking most people in boulder have maybe been there once at most.

lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 20:57 (9 years ago) Permalink

yeah, well, like I say, we weren't in a position to go eat there either.

It's funny -- I've heard people say it's expensive to live there but it didn't seem too bad in general. Or are you talking rent? I meant to check out housing prices there but didn't get around to it. I didn't really get the traffic thing either ... at least, Boulder seems almost too small to really have a bad traffic problem, no? Maybe we weren't driving at peak times though. The buses seemed to come by really frequently.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 20:59 (9 years ago) Permalink

Boulder was not what I thought it would be, when I visited. Naropa more or less was.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 21:06 (9 years ago) Permalink

I found Denver to be way less expensive than Chicago in terms of rent and heating bills. I lived in a beautiful $550/month apartment (affordable at the time) by myself. I don't think I would've found an equally nice place in a similar neighborhood for that money in Chicago--I had a great apartment there too, in Lincoln Square (comparable to my Denver 'hood) close to the El, and 2 roommates. And then there was the winter of the $350 monthly heating bill, ugh. Then again, my heat/hot water was included in my Denver rent. But the phone service sucks in Denver. Anyway, Denver was more of a bargain in my experience, but you pretty much have to have a car to get around.

sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 21:10 (9 years ago) Permalink

(And I definitely experienced a frat-boy vibe around DU--I think some crazy majority of the students are involved in Greek life in some way.)

sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 21:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

Rent way out here in the burbs of Chicago is over $550/month now. My sister paid around $900 for a decent-sized 1BR in the city proper.

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 21:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

Microbrews seconded. The beer in Boulder is really tasty; I still dream about a really hoppy raspberry wheat beer that I had on Pearl Street somewhere, and I don't even like fruity beers. Good beer is a bastion of liberalism, don't you know?

Last time I was there, aside from driving through, (which was uh 1996, to visit some friends at the University) there seemed to be a disproportionate number of young "liberal" well-to-do post-hippie Phishheads in SUVs (before SUVs were SUVs, actually) that appeared to be taking narcisism to a new level. But, indeed, this is probably a stereotype.

I have a friend who lives near Boulder that I visit now and again and he lives an idyllic life up in the mountains. I'm jealous about that.

mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 21:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

I'm basing the Chicago/Denver cost of living thing on this online cost of living calculator thingie that said my salary could decrease by $3,500 in order to keep the same standard of living in Chicago.

My rent is pretty damn cheap. I think it's a renter's market here. To buy a house is pretty ridiculous, but I think that's pretty much everywhere. I pay $475 all utilities included for a washington park 1-bedroom (it's tiny, though). Groceries are the only thing that seem overpriced to me.

Boulder is far more expensive compared to Denver. I think most one bedroom apartments are $700-1000 where they are probably $450-900 in Denver (depending on neighborhood and etc.)

planescapin' 'til dawn (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 22:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

xpost
yeah, beer coming out of Boulder (and colorado in general, excepting Coors of course) is generally pretty good. Fat Tire is from around there, and the Walnut Brewery ones are quality as well.

in other news, thank fucking god Pete Coors didn't get elected to Senate, though there's a running bet going on in my family on how long it'll take Salazar to switch sides.

lemin (lemin), Thursday, 18 November 2004 01:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

Longmont also has that Macdonalds with the choo-choo

homosexual II, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

And the TWIN PEAKS MALL

homosexual II, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

yes, the mont is all twin peaksed out. twin peaks church! scary. longmont also has some of the best mexican food i've found in colorado.

tylerw, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:18 (6 years ago) Permalink

^^ no freaking way

nabisco, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

is a mound of guac standard taco topping in CO or is that just an Albertaco thing?
can someone briefly say why The Springs is so bad and hated? Got family there but haven't been there for 20 years other than brief pass-thrus/stopping at Garden of the Gods/horrible sushi experience.

Granny Dainger, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:24 (6 years ago) Permalink

no freaking way to the mexican food or the twin peaks church / mall?

tylerw, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

No freaking way to the Mexican! Or, I mean ... are you just comparing to northern Colorado, or have you eaten down south and you're still going with Longmont? I have a hard time believing Mexican in Longmont has surpassed what you get down around/past Pueblo.

Colorado Springs is largely bad and hated for being intensely conservative/evangelical, and having served for a long time as a center for lots of varieties of huge right-wing religious groups who want to focus on your family. It has self-consciously whitebread ideas sometimes, possibly due to fear of Mexicans; possibly due to its geography being somewhat deformed and disconnected in ways that completely blast any notion of human beings living in a community with one another, partly due to weird land speculation that went BOOM during the 80s savings-and-loan scandal; also possibly due to the Air Force Academy and NORAD being nearby. Also lots of people are weird. Also the Mexican food is not as good as it is further south, though if you live further south the Springs is a good place to go for bigger malls, with Chick-Fil-As. In sum, Colorado Springs is weird and conservative and creates a weird liberal enclave/prison around Colorado College, but on the plus side, the stretches of I-25 leading out of it are very pretty and worth driving on.

nabisco, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

yeah, i guess i would amend that to best mexican food on the front range (boulder, denver, ft. collins etc.). Actually have spent next to no time at all down south, though I'm planning on it this summer.

tylerw, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

The drive to CO springs is pretty, and Manitou Springs is cool for the penny arcade thinger, but last summer my sister and I decided to drive down to CO springs to look around and go hiking and things and we decided that town is really, really hideous.

It does have a ZOO on a MOUNTAIN though which is cool.

I'm totally a northern colorado girl though.

homosexual II, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

This comes from growing up in Greeley I 'spose.

homosexual II, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

i went to a party near lefthand canyon (betw. boulder & lyons) a couple weeks back and it was a serious Boulder yuppie kind of scene. Very well-off pseud-bohemians. I won't front, though, I'd live up there in a second if I had the $$$. Outrageously gorgeous.

tylerw, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:48 (6 years ago) Permalink

thanks for the springs lowdown, nabisco. it seemed like a weird place to me, but not necessarily in an unpleasant way. but like i said, have spent hardly any time there in the past 20years.
where is the good mex food south of Pueblo? Along I-25, or further west, in the mountains? I couldn't find any good food til I hit New Mexico.

Granny Dainger, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:13 (6 years ago) Permalink

Well, I grew up in Pueblo, so I'm biased toward the Mexican around there. There's not much to point to outside of that in terms of specific towns, but anytime I had decent Mexican in small towns anywhere in the area -- Canon City, La Junta, Trinidad, wherever -- it tended to be a lot better than up north. (Never mind crossing the border into New Mexican goodness.)

nabisco, Thursday, 19 June 2008 17:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

(Now that I think about it, I'm not actually sure I-25 passes through much of anything between Pueblo and New Mexico -- Trinidad? Walsenberg? Rye? So yeah, once you're past Pueblo, you tend to start checking the mileage for Raton and not stopping.)

nabisco, Thursday, 19 June 2008 17:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

yeah it's pretty much a no man's land past Pueblo on I-25, but I had fantasies of there being a Shangri La of Mexican food hidden in those mountains.
If I'm not mistaken, Longmont has a huge ConAgra processing facility (chickens, for sure, don't know what else. i used to work at their HQ in HR), and employs a good deal of Mexicans, which would explain the food oasis there.

Granny Dainger, Thursday, 19 June 2008 17:18 (6 years ago) Permalink

Mandee - a ride from Boulder would be reaaaally awesome if you it's convenient for you. The only thing is that I'm going to be at work until about 5pm or so. Is that too late to swing through Boulder? If so, that's cool, I'll just take the bus to Denver, it's not a big deal.

Z S, Thursday, 19 June 2008 17:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

<3 nabisco's second paragraph up there in his colorado springs post

dell, Thursday, 19 June 2008 17:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

Zach I probably won't leave Greeley until 6pm or so... so yeah, the work issue isn't a problem.

homosexual II, Thursday, 19 June 2008 19:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

awwwwwwesome.

I'll send you an email with my address. It's not hard to get to - it's a few blocks west of Broadway, on the Hill.

Z S, Thursday, 19 June 2008 20:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

hey zach, change of plans - my friend's band is playing downtown tomorrow (20th & Larimer somewhere) and then there's a party thinger afterward. wanna come down for that?

homosexual II, Thursday, 19 June 2008 23:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

YES, that sounds great. Although, I may have to be lame and leave the party early, because I think the last bus back to boulder leaves around midnight or so (I could be hilariously wrong on that).

Z S, Thursday, 19 June 2008 23:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

no, last one leaves at 2:20 am duder!!!

homosexual II, Thursday, 19 June 2008 23:18 (6 years ago) Permalink

we could send you off at union station which is like 2 blocks from the party

homosexual II, Thursday, 19 June 2008 23:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

whoa, gnarly!

Cool, what's the name of the bar/venue then? I can just meet you there.

Z S, Thursday, 19 June 2008 23:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

i'll email you, im still gathering details

homosexual II, Thursday, 19 June 2008 23:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

Mandee, I just got back from Denver about 20 minutes ago. What a fucking awesome weekend trip! I laughed so hard and so often over the past few days that I actually have a sore throat (best sore throat ever). We gotta do it again sometime soon.

PS Please don't tell anyone how much I cheated at air hockey oh wait what am I doing

Z S, Monday, 23 June 2008 02:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

most entertaining air hockey game ever!!

yeah man it was great to meet you and me and all my friends had a blast!!! and you are welcome to our couch in denver anytime.

homosexual II, Monday, 23 June 2008 03:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

Just got into an 40 minute long argument about THE ENVIRONMENT AND ENERGY where he said that I was a hypocrite because I only am a vegetarian (a decision I made on grounds of energy use) and don't go "100%".

LATE UPDATE

he walked in and totally apologized. Maybe's he's not so bad.

SRY SO DRUNK BOULDER

Z S, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 06:58 (6 years ago) Permalink

I have a hard time making up my mind about Boulder. When we lived there, my friends and I used to compare it to Dairy, from Stephen King's, It. You keep looking around hoping that someone else will acknowledge that there is something terribly wrong about the place, but, like you said, it's all glazed over eyes.

That being said, there were days when shit was way bad, and all I had to do was take a look at the flat irons and it would wash away.

I was planning to move to China this fall, but salary expectations and visa problems are making that less of a viable option. I think my girlfriend and I are moving to Boulder in August.

Where are you from originally, ZS?

Benjamin-, Sunday, 6 July 2008 16:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

im ogin to colorado for a month on tuesday and completely bypassing boulder HAHA FU BOULDER

jhøshea, Sunday, 6 July 2008 16:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

what are you doing here jhoshea

homosexual II, Sunday, 6 July 2008 21:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

Benjamin -

I'm originally from near St. Louis, Missouri. A small town called Farmington. But now I'm living in Ithaca, NY, but only until I graduate next May. Then somewhere else. I HAVE NO HOME.

Mandee

I'm coming to Denver on Thursday night/Friday/Saturday afternoon. If you would like hang 10 gimme a call!

Z S, Monday, 7 July 2008 03:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

Alright, they don't like the "1-2-3-4-5, 6-7-8-9-10, ELEVEN TWELVE!" song, or the animation. FUCK THIS.

Mandee - wanna see Matmos tomorrow in Boulder? Pleeeeeeeease?

Z S, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 01:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

i'm down for Denver drinks on July 26th

Jordan, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 02:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

I loved Boulder when I visited. especially Boulder Brewing company

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 03:58 (6 years ago) Permalink

Alright, they don't like the "1-2-3-4-5, 6-7-8-9-10, ELEVEN TWELVE!" song, or the animation. FUCK THIS.

what the fuck are these people

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 04:02 (6 years ago) Permalink

Z S email me at dr dot drew dot daniel at gee mail dot com so that I can list you in Boulder brah

Drew Daniel, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 06:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

Drew, I just emailed you, but since it's already 6:30pm I'm assuming it's too late for guest list action. No big deal though, I'll be there either way.

Z S, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 00:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

WAIT IS IT TONIGHT OR WEDNESDAY ZACH!!?!?

homosexual II, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 01:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

sorry i just now saw this! AND I JUST GOT HOME FROM WORK AND I STINK!

homosexual II, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 01:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

Jordan, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 16:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

Jordan is speechless!

homosexual II, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 16:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

mandee, did you get my ilx mail?

Jordan, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 16:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

OH! Jordan!!! The email I am registered under is no longer valid - email me at mandee wr!ght at gmail dot com

homosexual II, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 16:57 (6 years ago) Permalink

oh cool, i re-mailed you

Jordan, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 18:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

They're still cool dudes though. My roommate says "Yeah, right?" anytime he agrees with someone else, which is endearing.

-- Z S, Monday, May 26, 2008 4:22 PM

RONG

Z S, Sunday, 27 July 2008 19:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

omg boulder is my least favorite place in the world

-- jhøshea, Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:13 AM

RITE

Z S, Sunday, 27 July 2008 19:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Anybody lived in Ouray or Silverton?

Alex in Denver, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 10:18 (5 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

I moved back here, to Boulder. I got dragged to some awful show at the Boulder Theatre (Charlie Hunter), with a bunch of people standing around not even paying attention to the music.

This is the weird thing about the jam band scene. Most of the people I know who go to these shows walk around and socialize, meet people they saw half way across the country at some other lame show, and only intermittently notice the music.

Other than that, I am extremely happy. I've lived here before, when I could hardly bare it,but now I've got a decent job and can actually enjoy the place. Side note, this is one of the most fit conscious cities in the country, yet when I live here I pack on the pounds.

Benjamin-, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 05:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

5 years pass...

Family vacation in Steamboat Springs next week, meeting up with even more family. I've always had an irrational hatred of Colorado, so I admit I am prejudiced, but I'm also open to having my mind changed. So: what am I in for? Hippies? Bobos? Bozos? I'm sure it will be fun with fam regardless.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 July 2014 01:08 (1 week ago) Permalink


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