I don't think that really is an issue - anyone/any church can call two people married, the issue is that the rest of society doesn't have to recognize it.
― dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jonathan Z. (Joanthan Z.), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:29 (nineteen years ago) link
However, I won't allow the Bible to be misinterpreted, twisted and wielded to hateful ends. The arguments will have to come both in the religious world and the secular, because like it or not we live in a christian civilisation.
But Jonathan, why can't a christian gay souple get married in a church which recognises their partnership?
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link
This kind of argument really pisses me off. YES THERE ARE THINGS WRONG IN MUSLIM COUNTRIES AS WELL, I know. But rather than talking about something I know nothing about and have no contact with, I would rather talk about something I know about, think is wrong and have a chance of changing.
― Steve.n. (sjkirk), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link
i'd rather not be KILLED
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:32 (nineteen years ago) link
The government has absolutely no compelling interest to regulate civil matters between consenting adults (other than in areas of fraud, etc.)
― don weiner, Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:32 (nineteen years ago) link
Okay, am I the only one who sees a deep irony here? The vast majority of the posters on this thread have been British!
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:34 (nineteen years ago) link
But still, you are the spawn of our nation (i.e. you speak English).
― Steve.n. (sjkirk), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― adam... (nordicskilla), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Steve.n. (sjkirk), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:41 (nineteen years ago) link
It is probably best that I have four years to acclimate myself to the political realm before I turn 35 as right now I want to state all of my issues as satirical initiatives; my current solution to the gay marriage issue would be to pen a bill that banned divorce and heterosexual civil unions.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:43 (nineteen years ago) link
Ridiculous.
― Chantel, Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link
I have no problem with that. But you can't legislate to force a church to do that. On the other hand, it's the law's business to protect the rights of individuals. Therefore we should separate out what churches do from what the law does, and call the two things by different names.
― Jonathan Z. (Joanthan Z.), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Chantel, Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Chantel, Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:58 (nineteen years ago) link
You don't know this because you are a moron.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Chantel, Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:02 (nineteen years ago) link
X-posts I don't want to force churches to hold gay services - none the less many would and want to, and saying that what happens in a Church is between a man and a woman and what happens outside is a civil union doesn;t help gay Christians.
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:02 (nineteen years ago) link
I do know enough about the way that homosexuals are treated in Islamic societies to know that what happens to gays in Islamic societies is wrong.
You are still a gigantic, oxygen-stealing idiot.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Emilymv (Emilymv), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link
Overcoming emotionalism and irrational fear with argument is admittedly classic, but it's not an automatic win.
― Aimless (Aimless), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― chantel, Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link
these are the facts.
in case anyone's thinking that i may not know what i'm talking about, i went to 2 roman catholic schools for a combination of 13 years, i was an altar boy from the age of 9 until i was 16, and i read from the bible on the altar until i was 20.
can those in the 'anti' camp please stop quoting 'the bible' in relation to this subject, because it doesn't sound like you've actually read it, and it isn't doing you any favours.
cheers.
― piscesboy, Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:53 (nineteen years ago) link
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court has declined to step into a case over a Texas high court ruling that says gay spouses may not be entitled to government-subsidized workplace benefits.
― Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Monday, 4 December 2017 21:33 (six years ago) link
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