Gay Marriage to Alfred: Your Thoughts

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tsk tsk, old man! have you killfiled me?

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:48 (eleven years ago) link

What, is Romney going to start calling the other guy a flipflopper?

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Thursday, 10 May 2012 02:04 (eleven years ago) link

hi, i'm from australia and my prime minister is a pointless piece of shit

o s– man (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 10 May 2012 06:35 (eleven years ago) link

you just have to wait for her to evolve

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Thursday, 10 May 2012 06:57 (eleven years ago) link

It's awesome that Obama did this, but ... what did he do, exactly? States can (and will) continue to ban gay marriage, or more/worse. Once this gets to the Supreme Court, Obama has no sway, and likely anyone he would have appointed to the court would be at least somewhat sympathetic to the issue, anyway. Unless he actively campaigns on the issue, which I doubt he will, by supporting gay marriage Obama puts nothing at stake (anti-gay marriage peeps likely would have not voted for him anyway) and gets little in return (except some gay $$$, and maybe the renewed support of some hard-left people and libertarians somehow able to overlook all the other things about him they don't like). Right? And for those who think the decision will cost him any significant portion of the black vote ... please.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:31 (eleven years ago) link

That's correct but here's where I might surprise you: I was impressed with the simplicity of the language used in that interview. In clear jargon-free sentences he explained how he as a father and husband approached the unveiling of a decision he had no doubt decided years ago. It does mean a lot that POTUS did it too.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:35 (eleven years ago) link

as Dennis Perrin put it, "Liberals love voting for symbolism."

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:36 (eleven years ago) link

(even if it trails Dick Cheney)

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:37 (eleven years ago) link

true. not a lot more he can "do" (i don't think?) outside of directing the JD to stop enforcing DOMA

that said, i shamefully sent him $$ last night for first time ever. didn't even do that in '08. in my defense the grizzlies had just won and i was drinking heavily.

xxposts

it's smdh time in America (will), Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:37 (eleven years ago) link

I think he was simple just to get it over with so that he can stop talking about it. Like pulling a tooth.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link

true. not a lot more he can "do" (i don't think?) outside of directing the JD to stop enforcing DOMA

well, its not enforcement really, it's defending it in court. and not defending it in court means it will probably get overturned... however DOMA only applies to federal law. It's entirely possible that the SC, being composed as it is, will issue a narrow ruling that overturns DOMA but does not enshrine the rights of gays and lesbians to marry. Meaning state laws may have to be challenged separately. Legal scholars plz correct me if I'm missing something here.

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, legal scholars, weigh in: I'm not sure what the Supreme Court can even do but bat down bad local laws, which are all discriminatory in different ways. Can the SC even give a close ruling that outright allows gay marriage, no question? Or would that take a constitutional amendment?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link

they'd have to rule that any law explicitly denying rights to gays and lesbians was unconstitutional.

I kinda don't see this current court doing that but I dunno.

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

Or would that take a constitutional amendment?

I'm pretty sure that the current court isn't going to find a right not enumerated in the amendments.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

oops yeah, "defending", not "enforcing"

it's smdh time in America (will), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

haha

zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Friday, 11 May 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=nMANMIe0ZZI

polyphonic, Friday, 11 May 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

woah

zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Friday, 11 May 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

I don't like Lady Gaga's new angle.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Friday, 11 May 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

Can't watch youtube at work. What's the gist?

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Friday, 11 May 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

homiciders

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 May 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

deep conspiracy, unreason, newspaper clippings, the death of whitney houston

zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Friday, 11 May 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

exhibit a) for why democracy doesn't work

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 May 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link

anus licking causes sepsis

AIDS is a candida fungus disease

p-e-n-i-s goes into anus to rupture intestines

zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Friday, 11 May 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link

gays, bis, and orgiers

zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Friday, 11 May 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

really wanted the incredulous dude behind her to hold up

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BlU5V5BaMjY/Sc0HHNeRDgI/AAAAAAAAEcI/Z_c9i9Ks1Lw/s400/Bugs_Bunny_Screwball.jpg

madame boo berry (donna rouge), Friday, 11 May 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

every corpse found without clothes has a partner that did away with them.

zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Friday, 11 May 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

^prob the best line

madame boo berry (donna rouge), Friday, 11 May 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

also fyi:

Information No results found for "drag queen Candida Fungus".

madame boo berry (donna rouge), Friday, 11 May 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

"They cuss after coupling."

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Friday, 11 May 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

Love the moment when "one minute" from the mod nearly derails her. The "I have ... let's see" moment feels like a ray of sanity shining through, like she's just about to realize her brain supplied her with too much rope.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Friday, 11 May 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

"They cuss after coupling."

well that's true

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 May 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

During.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Friday, 11 May 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

winter wipeout

zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Friday, 11 May 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

xpost As in "what the fuck do you think you're doing?"

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Friday, 11 May 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

Winter Wipeout might actually be produced by orgiers. It's ABC's best family night gangpile.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Friday, 11 May 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link

Published on May 10, 2012 by aksarbent

genius!

goole, Friday, 11 May 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link

I can't even...

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 11 May 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link

her anal rape of the English language is more offensive

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 May 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link

I'd like to use this as an audition piece.

polyphonic, Friday, 11 May 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link

i'm half convinced that's what it was

goole, Friday, 11 May 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

can this be read into the congressional record

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 May 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link

orgiers!

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 11 May 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link

homiciders

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 May 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link

orgiers is near tangiers iirc

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 May 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link

It's a layover from Lesbos.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Friday, 11 May 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link

you simply must visit the bathhouses

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 11 May 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

bathhousers

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 May 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link


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