come anticipate Miami Vice with me

yeah that live version of bring it on home to me is tremendous

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkLZ_pVwU3k

Cruise is great in Collateral. If Delon can use his good looks and coldness, Cruise can use his charm offensive to achieve the same thing.

Tubbs: So what's going on?
Crockett: As in?
Tubbs: As in there is undercover and then there is "Which way is up?".
Crockett: What? Do you think I'm in so deep I forgot?
Tubbs: [Tubbs and Crockett look at each other closely] I will never doubt you.

lets take this to the limit... one more time

Yes, no, maybe so.

That's not what happens. What will happen is... what will happen is I will put a round at twenty-seven hundred feet per second into the medulla at the base of your brain. And you will be dead from the neck down before your body knows it. Your finger won't even twitch. Only you get dead. So tell me, sport, do you believe that?

love that the trailer is basically a lot of guns being cocked

'ali' shd have been ALL like the opening sequence, like an entire sam cooke gig inter cut with fragments from the life of ali

schnabels transformation from awful painter to rad filmmaker is one of the great mysteries of contpo art - before night falls is a straight up classic great movie

― ice cr?m, Tuesday, February 1, 2011 12:29 AM (9 hours ago)

yah maybe this disproves auteur bs for me. like how can this guy suddenly compose a frame?

You seem okay. But him, I don't like how he looks.

Do you wanna fuck with my partner or do you wanna do business with us? 'Cause I don't give a shit how you think he looks.

-with

i kinda like history mayne's idea, kinda like make an entire film out of that style or maybe like the end of the right stuff, when the astronauts are kicking it in the astrodome watching the performance while sam shepard is taking aim at the altitude record.

Pre-shooting screenplay, by the way.

Rewatching this at the minute.

I'm gonna tell you what's gonna happen. People are gonna come in here, and you know what they gonna say? They gonna look around and go 'Ola Hijo. That's some crazy motherfucking wallpaper, what is that? Jackson Pollock?'

So, I watched this again last night. And one thing that struck me is that after Trudie gets taken, it's not like Crockett has any moment of reckoning from his team, especially since it follows the scene in the club where he's dancing with Gong Li--like, none of his crew (or Trudie, after she gets out of her coma) says anything like "Maybe this came down on us this way because you fucked the boss's boss's boss's gal and CFO?"

Idk I think that was because they were seasoned professionals and knew they had to focus on the job at hand or lose their lives.

Even in the hospital scene they still had a task remaining.

Then again, that romantic subplot was the least convincing thing about the movie...

romantic subplot probably the best part of the movie.

at least, the dancing-scene

without the romantic subplot there is no shot of montoya's back

It seemed very incongruous to Crockett's character, like it made sense why Gong Li played along, but even if his initial primary motivation was infiltration, he clearly fell for her really quick. I have to think an undercover would know it was a really poor course of action, given his experience.

I really took it as Mann trying to throw fans of the TV show a bone, since the rest of it so little resembled the shiny experience.

Still a great movie tho...

'Shiny experience'? I meant 'shiny exterior' (of the show)

Underrated movie. Still the best cold opening of all time.

Yea I hated the stupid director's cut opening they added on the DVD.

Seeing Crockett/Tubbs in the club while the Jay-Z/Linkin Park song plays is an awes beginning

There was a release that not the director's cut! There was a rumor for a while that it was going to go out of print and the director's cut would be the only one so I bought it right away.

Only the Director's Cut is available on Blu-Ray. :(

what other differences are there apart from the cold open?

More character scenes, which aren't bad or anything, but losing that cold open is a major bummer.

You can get a HD version of the theater cut, but it's on HD-DVD.

So, it probably exists out on download sites.

i keep meaning to read the first draft screenplay to see if there was ever meant to be more FBI stuff. the open is totally different to either version afaict.

http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/miamivice.pdf

such mixed feelings on all mann's stuff exc. heat. opening of ali def. inspired. jamie foxx is a ridiculous actor.

so i read the screenplay. it clearly wasn't final: there's a ~3 scene bit toward the end where it's just "a scene in which ..." and then placeholder description.

but anyway major differences from the director's cut (i missed this in the cinema):

isabella is afro cuban

nicholas has one line, delivered over the phone

yero has a speech where he tells this story about how pablo escobar used to execute his good pilots after six flights, and he is 3 times as good as escobar, so he will take out tubbs+crockett after two.

the fbi mole plot is even thinner: it's the same up to the bit where yero agrees to share intelligence and tells them to check their email, but in the screenplay the email never comes. i'm not sure that plot ever had an ending.

the final showdown is very different. isabella is already with crockett when they find out yero has trudy, and gives them advice (she runs the drugs in on the boats with them). the trailer doesn't get blown up after they get trudy back, no hospital scenes, totally different action set pieces in the cargo park or wherever it's supposed to be

no shot of montoya's back

why are mann's director's cuts pretty much shittier than the theatrical cuts across the board?

I think he works better with whatever small constraints a theatrical cut imposes in that it cuts out the last 5% of the cruft that we really didn't need.

there is an all regions UK Blu Ray release of the theatrical cut fwiw.

sweet! There seem to be a bunch of random stores on amazon that keep selling region-free UK copies of films. I think the version of Zodiac I have is actually the brit one.

why are mann's director's cuts pretty much shittier than the theatrical cuts across the board?

If you're going to spend a mil or two shooting a speedboat race, you might as well put it somewhere if it doesn't make final cut.

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Ha, yeah, just bought the UK bluray of Zodiac too. Apparently the 2 Disc American release is slightly better in quality but it's OOP and going for big bucks.

i got laughed at irl this weekend for saying that i really like this movie

^^^i have been there

ppl are idiots

I just tell people it's going to be bad the first few times, and after that amazing.

in general ppl look at you like an alien if you say you like michael mann

in general ppl look at you like an alien if you say you like Miami.

well yeah that too

do you like....mojitos

whenever Sarge returns we take my catamaran to Havana to cool it with some mojitos.

sounds like you're a fiend for them

i would like a mojito rn

http://philadelphia.foobooz.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/miami_vice_mojo.jpg