schnabels transformation from awful painter to rad filmmaker is one of the great mysteries of contpo art - before night falls is a straight up classic great movie
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 00:29 (thirteen years ago) link
walk the line is better
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Monday, January 31, 2011 7:04 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
it is better!
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 00:30 (thirteen years ago) link
not really a mystery--painting is hard--making a movie is easy
― max, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 00:30 (thirteen years ago) link
pfft painting isnt hard check this out *paints*
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 00:31 (thirteen years ago) link
did schnabel do basquiat? thats the only one ive seen. its ok.
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 00:35 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah basquiat is alright, before night falls is masterful, diving bell and butterfly is good if kind of minor seeming
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 00:36 (thirteen years ago) link
some key reasons collateral owns:
mark ruffalo's red herring tough-guy detective character (martin balsam in psycho?)coyotesbardem scenestatham cameo
― omar little, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 01:38 (thirteen years ago) link
memorable scene from last of the mohicans (which did in fact own): that british dude is getting burned alive and DDL puts him out of his misery w/a long-distance shot
― omar little, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 01:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Collateral isn't bad but the plot is totally fucking ridiculous and once they go to the Jazz club it's all downhill.
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 02:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Ali is pretty awful imo. Smith is robotic and monotonous in it (as he always is lately, but he's playing Muhammad Ali!) and the script is pretty much the most rote and by the numbers Ali biopic you could write.
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 02:16 (thirteen years ago) link
i dont think smith's bad in it, it's just an underwritten part
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 02:18 (thirteen years ago) link
he's just not believable at all. He has the vacant expression of an actor in way over his head for like 95% of the movie.
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 02:22 (thirteen years ago) link
its like casting tom hanks as castro or some shit
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 02:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Best thing about Ali was ESPN running days and days of Ali fights and programming on ESPN Classic when it was released.
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 02:24 (thirteen years ago) link
basically Vice is his best film and i say that as a colossal Manhunter fan. it's the sorta film that makes you buy a better telly for the next time you watch it. i'd basically get a Blu Ray player just for this and the upcoming Star Wars box.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 03:31 (thirteen years ago) link
is the original cut on bluray or just the new cut?
new cut on bluray is hella beautiful btw.
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 04:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Director's cut has never been available on BR. It was on HD-DVD, IIRC.
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 04:12 (thirteen years ago) link
nah it's out
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 04:17 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.amazon.com/Miami-Vice-Unrated-Directors-Blu-ray/dp/B001B7CNXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1296533867&sr=8-1
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 04:18 (thirteen years ago) link
D'oh, I meant theatrical cut has never been on BR, but was on HD-DVD.
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 04:22 (thirteen years ago) link
someone should create a PS3 app or something
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 04:24 (thirteen years ago) link
still think collateral is the best thing mann did in the 00s
agree w/ this coyotes are incredible whole movie has this amazing energy looks so visceral tom cruise psychosis perfectly utilized
shld probably rewatch vice tho havent seen it in a couple years
― Lamp, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 04:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Rest of the movie whatever, but how could this be any better?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STDo6Z5YJa4
― An Artily Shot Sesame Street (Eazy), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 05:55 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah that live version of bring it on home to me is tremendous
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkLZ_pVwU3k
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 05:57 (thirteen years ago) link
Cruise is great in Collateral. If Delon can use his good looks and coldness, Cruise can use his charm offensive to achieve the same thing.
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Tubbs: So what's going on?Crockett: As in?Tubbs: As in there is undercover and then there is "Which way is up?".Crockett: What? Do you think I'm in so deep I forgot?Tubbs: [Tubbs and Crockett look at each other closely] I will never doubt you.
― omar little, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:37 (thirteen years ago) link
lets take this to the limit... one more time
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes, no, maybe so.
― An Artily Shot Sesame Street (Eazy), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:53 (thirteen years ago) link
That's not what happens. What will happen is... what will happen is I will put a round at twenty-seven hundred feet per second into the medulla at the base of your brain. And you will be dead from the neck down before your body knows it. Your finger won't even twitch. Only you get dead. So tell me, sport, do you believe that?
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:53 (thirteen years ago) link
love that the trailer is basically a lot of guns being cocked
'ali' shd have been ALL like the opening sequence, like an entire sam cooke gig inter cut with fragments from the life of ali
― history mayne, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 08:51 (thirteen years ago) link
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, February 1, 2011 12:29 AM (9 hours ago)
yah maybe this disproves auteur bs for me. like how can this guy suddenly compose a frame?
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 09:48 (thirteen years ago) link
You seem okay. But him, I don't like how he looks.
― pf smangs (San Te), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 11:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Do you wanna fuck with my partner or do you wanna do business with us? 'Cause I don't give a shit how you think he looks.
-with
― pf smangs (San Te), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 11:15 (thirteen years ago) link
i kinda like history mayne's idea, kinda like make an entire film out of that style or maybe like the end of the right stuff, when the astronauts are kicking it in the astrodome watching the performance while sam shepard is taking aim at the altitude record.
― omar little, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Pre-shooting screenplay, by the way.
― A double shot of Sesame Street (Eazy), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 00:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Rewatching this at the minute.
― w/no hesitation (mh), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 00:30 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm gonna tell you what's gonna happen. People are gonna come in here, and you know what they gonna say? They gonna look around and go 'Ola Hijo. That's some crazy motherfucking wallpaper, what is that? Jackson Pollock?'
― The all-jazz interpreter (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link
So, I watched this again last night. And one thing that struck me is that after Trudie gets taken, it's not like Crockett has any moment of reckoning from his team, especially since it follows the scene in the club where he's dancing with Gong Li--like, none of his crew (or Trudie, after she gets out of her coma) says anything like "Maybe this came down on us this way because you fucked the boss's boss's boss's gal and CFO?"
― 27 Dresses, 13 Assassins (Eazy), Friday, 17 June 2011 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
Idk I think that was because they were seasoned professionals and knew they had to focus on the job at hand or lose their lives.
Even in the hospital scene they still had a task remaining.
Then again, that romantic subplot was the least convincing thing about the movie...
― Nebuchadnezzar Buchanan (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 June 2011 15:17 (twelve years ago) link
romantic subplot probably the best part of the movie.
― Gukbe, Friday, 17 June 2011 15:18 (twelve years ago) link
at least, the dancing-scene
without the romantic subplot there is no shot of montoya's back
― caek, Friday, 17 June 2011 15:20 (twelve years ago) link
It seemed very incongruous to Crockett's character, like it made sense why Gong Li played along, but even if his initial primary motivation was infiltration, he clearly fell for her really quick. I have to think an undercover would know it was a really poor course of action, given his experience.
I really took it as Mann trying to throw fans of the TV show a bone, since the rest of it so little resembled the shiny experience.
Still a great movie tho...
― Nebuchadnezzar Buchanan (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 June 2011 15:23 (twelve years ago) link
'Shiny experience'? I meant 'shiny exterior' (of the show)
― Nebuchadnezzar Buchanan (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 June 2011 15:24 (twelve years ago) link
Underrated movie. Still the best cold opening of all time.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 June 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
Yea I hated the stupid director's cut opening they added on the DVD.
Seeing Crockett/Tubbs in the club while the Jay-Z/Linkin Park song plays is an awes beginning
― Nebuchadnezzar Buchanan (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 June 2011 15:39 (twelve years ago) link
There was a release that not the director's cut! There was a rumor for a while that it was going to go out of print and the director's cut would be the only one so I bought it right away.
― mh, Friday, 17 June 2011 15:49 (twelve years ago) link
Only the Director's Cut is available on Blu-Ray. :(
― Gukbe, Friday, 17 June 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link
what other differences are there apart from the cold open?
― caek, Friday, 17 June 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link