My wife is telling me that I'm a sociopath

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She's describing all of these things that I attribute to myself and it's freaking me out. Does this mean knives are in my future?

(NOTE: No.)

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 02:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Most of us are, Dan. Just don't pee on her and everything should be ok.

Bryan (Bryan), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 02:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Insane Perry Posse

Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 02:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think I quite understand.

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 02:54 (nineteen years ago) link

She listed a whole bunch of attributes for sociopaths (among them: unnaturally calm, superficially charming, extremely rational, shameless, reasonably to exceptionally intelligent, inappropriately blase reaction when caught doing something that should cause embarrasment, disconnected from surroundings, etc) and I was sitting infront of the computer not talking to her but on ILE thinkng "OH SHIT THAT'S ME" and I'M STILL ON ILE.

Clearly it's rocks-in-sack-over-bridge time.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 03:00 (nineteen years ago) link

That sounds like me as well. I say we should revel in it.

Bryan (Bryan), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 03:01 (nineteen years ago) link

You're only superficially charming? But DAN, I thought you LIKED US! *runs away sobbing*

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 03:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow. You are a fucking sociopath.

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 03:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I might also be, however.

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 03:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Anyone reading through the DSM-IV could probably find some kind of mental disorder that applied to them. I wouldn't worry about it (but maybe that's because I'm a sociopath).

Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 03:06 (nineteen years ago) link

that description makes being a sociopath sound awesome.

ryan (ryan), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 03:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Anyone reading through the DSM-IV could probably find some kind of mental disorder that applied to them.

true dat. i reckon that's evidence that it's a bit flawed as a diagnostic tool.

gem (trisk), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 03:08 (nineteen years ago) link

ILX is starting to scare me what with Perry all sociopathed out and Ned scheming on BJs from crackheads.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 03:08 (nineteen years ago) link

He was like "hey, want a piece little man?" I was like "You're better off with my hand!!"

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 03:09 (nineteen years ago) link

it must've been when you ran around the house yelling "I OPPRESS YOU WITH KITTENS."

or maybe not.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 03:11 (nineteen years ago) link

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Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 03:18 (nineteen years ago) link

dan has never, to my knowledge, been mean to aja.

ergo, he's no sociopath.

he also doesn't torture small animals (again, as far as i know).

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 03:20 (nineteen years ago) link

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Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 03:21 (nineteen years ago) link

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Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 03:22 (nineteen years ago) link

he also doesn't torture small animals (again, as far as i know).

Do gerbils really enjoy felching? I find that hard to swallow.

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 03:23 (nineteen years ago) link

:rim shots:

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 04:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Apparently everyone on ILE is either autistic or sociopathic. So, well, nobody's perfect.

Star Cauliflower (Star Cauliflower), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 04:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm a plain-old freak.

ex-jeremy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 04:32 (nineteen years ago) link

what are you willing to do in order to move up to superfreak status?

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 04:35 (nineteen years ago) link

i dunno about anyone else, but i'm wondering why dan thinks that "knives" = "sociopath."

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 04:37 (nineteen years ago) link

ask "what did the five fingers say to the face?"

ex-jeremy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 04:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Sociopaths are to knives what butter is to bread. And the reverse.

Star Cauliflower (Star Cauliflower), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 04:47 (nineteen years ago) link

None of you people are sociopaths. After all, you are phantoms I created.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 06:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Serial killers often kill their victims in manners that are close-up and very tactile, including strangling, suffocation, and stabbing. Ergo, knives.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 10:49 (nineteen years ago) link

I asked someone who had mentioned that a test had marked him as sociopathic tendencies, what a sociopath was.

"Is it anything like a psychopath?" asked I.

"No, it's more like if there was a plane crash, you would be the one suggesting eating the survivors." he explained.

"Survivors?"

"Umm, no that would be a psychopath."

So there yez go.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 10:56 (nineteen years ago) link

:rim shots:

Someone took PICTURES of the hamster rimming? What kind of sick place IS this?

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 10:57 (nineteen years ago) link

That conversation makes my head hurt.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 10:58 (nineteen years ago) link

it's good to know i'm not a sociopath

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 11:00 (nineteen years ago) link

this might mean i'm just a straight up psychopath, however.

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 11:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Dude, of course you eat the survivors. The ones who can't run fast enough, anyway.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 11:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Google the Barnum effect. It would probably account for relating to the "unnaturally calm", "extremely rational", "shameless", "reasonably to exceptionally intelligent," and "disconnected from surroundings" symptoms. It's not like anyone's going to read that and say "oh, that's not me, my intelligence is faaaaar lower than reasonable" or that they never feel disconnected.

lupine lupin (lupinelupin), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha well, I left out all of the really negative ones but I kept thinking "Oh, those apply to me, too; YIKES!"

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Are there other paths to be? I mean I'm not that rational, shameless or charming.

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 23 September 2004 18:05 (nineteen years ago) link

The only real sociopath I ever knew was this super-bitch with widow's peak bangs and ugly, faded tribal tattoos on her chest and arms. So, as long as you've been suppressing any urges to alter your appearance to look more like a lame goth-y hipster, you're probably a-OK.

The DSM-IV is good post office line reading.

Candice Jackson (twowaydream), Thursday, 23 September 2004 18:05 (nineteen years ago) link

:rim shots:
Someone took PICTURES of the hamster rimming? What kind of sick place IS this?

-- Sean Carruthers (oneiro...), September 22nd, 2004.

email me. i'll tell you more.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 23 September 2004 18:55 (nineteen years ago) link

also, have your credit card ready.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 23 September 2004 18:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I always thought that there was supposed to be a difference between a sociopath and a psychopath?? But these websites say otherwise.

Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Mr. Perry, if the thought of your being a sociopath causes you distress, then odds are you aren't a sociopath.

Aimless (Aimless), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Well yeah, I know that.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Distressed? I thought he was bragging.

Kim (Kim), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link

don't anger him, kim¡

dysøn (dyson), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't get angry anymore. Everything just bounces off.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey, I can deal with a self professed crazy guy in a carboard goalie mask trying to be my new friend, so deadpan Dan is kind of cute in comparison.

Kim (Kim), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, if you can reflect on your own actions, you don't have a problem.

I once knew a con man who was an actual psychopath, and he would never 'admit' such a thing, bragging or no. Anyone who calls them into question is the psychopath.

This dude created a whole fake internet persona that was twenty-five years older and of a different race. He used it to verbally bully people, and when people confronted him about it, he would talk about all of his horrible experiences in the 'nam, and how everyone is so privileged compared to him because they didn't have to go to Vietnam, etc. It turned out the whole thing was fake, because he's about 30 years old, and he doesn't feel the least bit guilty about it.

Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Sociopaths are to butter what knives are to bread? Mmm, buttered sociopath.

Queen Electric Waffle Iron Face (Queen Electric Butt Prober BZZ), Thursday, 23 September 2004 20:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Dan, I know you get angry. Want me to forward the emails to prove it?

Andrew (enneff), Friday, 24 September 2004 01:07 (nineteen years ago) link

(Not trying to be confrontational here...)

Andrew (enneff), Friday, 24 September 2004 01:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't get angry anymore.

I'm still mean, though (and able to read).

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Friday, 24 September 2004 02:12 (nineteen years ago) link

eight years pass...

http://www.sociopathworld.com/

oh great, more identities to enrich our personal projects of self-growth

j., Friday, 7 June 2013 17:21 (ten years ago) link

i think the people who created that site, and are trying to find acceptance and understand from non-sociopaths, are probably not sociopaths

spiritualized echelon (Treeship), Friday, 7 June 2013 17:23 (ten years ago) link

*understanding

spiritualized echelon (Treeship), Friday, 7 June 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link

have looked at this stuff before and feel like the preponderance of the "pro-social sociopath" angle suggests it's mostly scott adams types who like to imagine their obeisance to social norms is an ingenious manipulation. also people into serial killers. also sociopaths; who knows.

this was something tho:

How would a sociopath react to the fat girl in a tube top. I think people think that sociopaths would be the meanest of the mean. But what benefit is there to a sociopath in being mean, even exceptionally so? There would be much greater value to the sociopath in being friendly and propping up the girl's self-esteem. Now she feels like they have commonality. The sociopath has made a friend, and if the girl wants to keep getting the validation from the sociopath, she will be a loyal and dedicated friend. Of course this approach involves some degree of manipulation because the sociopath is more consciously choosing to present himself as a friendly ally, and not for some more lofty goal of crusading on behalf of the weight-challenged. But does that make his action any less pro-social? Or any less a welcome response from the fat girl?

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Friday, 7 June 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link

I think people think that sociopaths would be the meanest of the mean.

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Friday, 7 June 2013 17:32 (ten years ago) link

sociopaths are such meanies

Spectrum, Friday, 7 June 2013 18:23 (ten years ago) link

really makes u think

hashtag sizzler (Phil D.), Friday, 7 June 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link

anyway, met a girl who self-identified as a sociopath. we had a fling because i'm all about good decision making. i wouldn't recommend it.

Spectrum, Friday, 7 June 2013 18:30 (ten years ago) link

nine months pass...

Just realized last night this one person - who is just the worst person I know, just a total self-involved jerk, who has proudly admitted to me multiple times taking pleasure in making random people suffer - is a complete sociopath. Every time I am around this person they constantly make me feel like I am being used, and usually the end of the encounter they pull some really disrespectful and domination shit on me solely for their own pleasure. I feel like someone needs to kick this person's ass a few times for them to learn their lesson but I also feel like this is some deep-seated sociopathy that will never go away and this person would make a really good cop or politician.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 28 March 2014 16:12 (ten years ago) link

Difficult listening hour, it's sort of not about being mean or not being mean w sociopaths. Normal people can be mean and not mean too. It's a disconnect, a complete inability to empathize with the victim. Sociopaths aren't meanies, they are just unable to have a real connection with anyone outside the tunnel vision of their own ego.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 28 March 2014 16:18 (ten years ago) link

Why do you have to deal with this person?

très hip (Treeship), Friday, 28 March 2014 16:30 (ten years ago) link

Live with them =(

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 28 March 2014 16:42 (ten years ago) link

oh man, get out now. people like that can have a totally corrosive effect on you, even if you don't notice it while you're in it.

Spectrum, Friday, 28 March 2014 16:45 (ten years ago) link

It's a 4 person household. One of the other people is apparently thinking of subletting for a few months this summer. Then one day the other 3 of us are smoking cigarettes on the front porch and he brings up that, btw, my friend is moving in to that room. Just without asking anyone, tells his friend to move in. Pulls this kind of shit all the time, telling his friends they can stay over and not even asking anyone. I brought it up w the landlord but he doesn't really want to deal with this person.

I'm not leaving cos I've lived here for years and it's an amazing deal. And this guy being an asshole is not going to change that.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 28 March 2014 16:46 (ten years ago) link

tbh sounds like a terrible deal

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 28 March 2014 16:47 (ten years ago) link

murder him

I'm definitely done 'hanging out' with him, which usually amounts to me starting up a videogame and watching him play it, then leave when it's my turn.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 28 March 2014 16:48 (ten years ago) link

Dude has a history of making people pissed off. First week he moved in he told me everyone at his work (a restaurant) had made him cry. He was crying because people were mean to him. He gets fired often, and I'm pretty sure he's just going to step on the wrong toes soon and be out annoying someone else.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 28 March 2014 16:49 (ten years ago) link

A few weeks ago I was with a mutual friend, and we were getting ready to record some music, and he had bought me some wine. Sociopath ends up stopping through with his friend, both sit down and my friend offers them wine. They proceed to finish the whole bottle, never saying thank you, in fact just getting more and more rude to us. Sociopath & friend was going to a concert and asked us if we were going to, and we said no, we got to work on this music, thanks though. He suddenly gets super serious and gestures in a downturned circle with his hand, saying "THIS conversation is over". What a effing dick. I called him out on it, said "Oh, dudes have finished drinking our wine and are done with us, now." and the asshole just thought he was being funny.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 28 March 2014 16:54 (ten years ago) link

At the same time, something really insignificant happened and he kept asking me if it made me mad. The guy has no clue.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 28 March 2014 16:56 (ten years ago) link

how old are you

call all destroyer, Friday, 28 March 2014 17:00 (ten years ago) link

Older than the movie Ghostbusters.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 28 March 2014 17:16 (ten years ago) link

I lived with someone like this, but he was a pathological liar. Literally making up complete transparent lies about himself in order to boost his prestige and impress people. He'd brag about his drinking achievements - how he once (twice actually) crashed his car while living in the South of France. Speaking of the 'South of France', he apparently picked up a lot of French during his sejourn. Now I speak fluent French, and what was coming out of his mouth wasn't terribly familiar to me. Now to me, it sounded mostly like a lot of gobblywobble with the odd cuss word thrown in. This, he explained, was 'pub French', not the usual French that I would know. Plus he was the laziest see you next tuesday I've ever met.

Bumped into him the other day, pissed out his head like usual 'Just bought a house, doing it up' was his latest news. I see him through the window of the pub I walk past every day at about 5.30pm.

Oh and he kept Maggie Thatcher and Enoch Powell's autobiographies on the bookshelves in our living room for all to see.

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Friday, 28 March 2014 17:23 (ten years ago) link

the above sounds petty, but i've pretty much blotted out the worst of what this guy was like. oh there was that time he took up a cocaine habit (we lived next to a busy pub) and he did three lines in the middle of the afternoon and left the house singing "I'M IN LOVE WITH COCAINE". We got calls from our landlady after the pub complained.

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Friday, 28 March 2014 17:29 (ten years ago) link

sounds like an r-rated homer simpson moment

Spectrum, Friday, 28 March 2014 17:30 (ten years ago) link

This guy is a cashier, and his favorite thing to do is wait for a customer to come up and order, then just stand there and pretend like he didn't hear it, and as soon as the customer opens his mouth to ask if he got it, he cuts them off by confirming the order. This is an extremely pleasurable experience to this guy. He pats himself on the back for being so clever and rude to this customer. He's a sick.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 28 March 2014 17:30 (ten years ago) link

didn't realise i knew dog latin IRL

invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 17:31 (ten years ago) link

lol at 'pub French'

lag∞n, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:15 (ten years ago) link

le beer

waterbabies (waterface), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:19 (ten years ago) link

nine years pass...

Fascinating but unsettling read:

I was sitting across from a man at a dinner party — this was like two years ago — and my diagnosis came up, and 30 seconds afterward he said, “You know, I have thoughts of killing my wife a lot.” Not to normalize that, but I was like, Tell me about that. And he goes: “I’ve really thought about it. I’ve reached out to people about hiring somebody to kill her.”

So people just assume that you’re a sympathetic audience?

Yeah, because these are things you’re not supposed to think about. So to be able to talk to somebody — you don’t have to worry that I’m going to start clutching my pearls.

birdistheword, Monday, 26 February 2024 04:39 (two months ago) link

she sounds totally normal to me. except for the strong feelings for pets thing. those people are nuts.

scott seward, Monday, 26 February 2024 05:50 (two months ago) link


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