Seymour Hersh - classic or dud

Hersh also said he is concerned about Trump and his administration assuming power over the vast surveillance resources of the U.S. government.

Damn straight, Seymour.

“They were just so willing to believe stuff..."

lol irony

Given his history I would love to hear a self-reflective take on this from him but sadly I doubt we'll ever get one.

https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article165905578/Trump-s-Red-Line.html

Believable, but using a single source is still disappointing.

there's copies of recordings he used. it wasn't just a person's say-so.

Also, longer interview about this new piece.

Amazed at how absolutely persona non grata he's become in such a short time.

link to recordings?

Audio: Seymour Hersh States Seth Rich Was WikiLeaks Source and the Russia hack was "a Brennan Operation" https://t.co/LkssOVoLdw

— Peter Duke 📷 🇺🇸 (@peterdukephoto) August 2, 2017

Uff da

it's awesome he stockpiled a career of credibility to save up for fueling the seth rich story

He showed up in that NPR article about the Trump and the Rich story but only said he heard rumors that he couldn't confirm.

it's not like this is first misstep into conspiracy land, even this year. The man has been on InfoWars.

was this a private conversation, not intended to be published? disappointing either way.

WaPo quoted him as saying his comments were blown out of proportion by Fox etc., still was sad/disappointing to see him involved in this farrago at all

Leaked, though.

Has anyone read his memoir yet?

https://newrepublic.com/article/148646/seymour-hersh-weekly

see also: https://www.cjr.org/special_report/seymour-hersh-monday-interview.php

^^Always love reading/hearing interviews with him.

There’s (a CIA) guy; I was screaming at him once about fucking up the FBI after 9/11. And he said to me, “Sy, you don’t get it. The FBI catches bank robbers and we rob banks.” I thought to myself, Fuck! That’s just exactly right. They’re criminals, what the CIA does. It’s all criminal activity.

great interview, thanks for posting that mookie

p excited to read his book

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lol this is the kissinger photo used in the book

https://i.imgur.com/h0f1Bs8.jpg

ha! that's great. the bookforum review was very very positive.

In your memoir, you say, “I can write now what I could not [in 1990], which was that the CIA had impeccable intelligence, conversation on nuclear issues in real-time, from deep inside the Pakistan nuclear establishment.” Why couldn’t you report that?

Because the person who told me was still in. [Now] he’s long gone.

Did you run that by him while you were working on the book to make sure it was okay to disclose?

He’s gone completely crazy. It’s been 30 years.

Yo Seymour Hersh... April 22nd 1915 just called... they would like to know what the fuck you are talking about. https://t.co/wREi6K31on… https://t.co/86LNZ3TZoX

— (((Pat Hilsman))) (@PatrickHilsman) June 27, 2018

“When you could die a highly respected and admired journalist but you just gotta do genocide denial on your way out.“ Sean P. McCarthy

To my knowledge, I'm not sure if chlorine has ever been used in aerial bombs or rocket/artillery shells, except perhaps as a contaminant from production.

More lethal agents like mustard were discovered before gas agents were put in shells in WWI. When Germans used chlorine in the WWI, they'd just tap large tanks upwind of opposing trenches.

https://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/gas-hulton-getty3.jpg

More to the point, if one has chlorine, its a single synthesis step to phosgene (responsible for 85% of gas deaths in WWI, and the Bhopal disaster).

CO + Cl2 → COCl2 (ΔHrxn = −107.6 kJ/mol)

The LC50 for chlorine is around 300 ppm, that for phosgene around 3 ppm, ie its 100 times as effective.

What are we questioning here?

what are you questioning? and can you find any source for it beyond al-bab.com?

I'm more inclined to trust Hersh, insofar as he has long provided an outlet for US IC insiders seeking to avoid US military intervention, than groups that, whether well-intentioned expats, or Gulf state funded, which have sought it.

It’s a verbatim quote.

"You sound like an apologist for Assad?" @Jo_Coburn

"I just believe in facts" Seymour Hersh#bbcdp pic.twitter.com/wZkpioU0gh

— BBC Daily Politics and Sunday Politics (@daily_politics) June 26, 2018

OPCW concluded that chlorine was very likely used in the attack, no mention of a bomb? he may be caught up in the semantics, but i doubt that anyone involved has the standing to question his anti-war credentials, let alone accuse him of 'apologising' for assad or 'denying genocide'

he, or his sources in american intelligence, could totally be wrong! and if sean p. mccarthy has better sources or info that would be surprising, but cool

The UN has confirmed past attacks. I think we would have done the regime change by now if that was really on the horizon and the ultimate goal behind the false flags or whatever the counter narrative is this week.

Not denying gas attacks children doesn’t necesarily mean you want military intervention. Maybe the guy that goes on infowars now isn’t that reliable anymore?

https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/Timeline-of-Syrian-Chemical-Weapons-Activity

And a useful thread

Seymour Hersh's BBC interview where he denies the Syrian government's use of chemical weapons on civilian populations is disgusting and factually inaccurate.

I'm going to go through here and refute point by point his claims. https://t.co/mNSrgEXsb3

— Rao Komar (@RaoKomar747) June 28, 2018

Good interview here with Hersh about Chicago.

If you were a reporter working in Chicago in 2018, what do you think you'd focus on?

Getting out of there.

This is shocking. Sy Hersh, who broke the US military's Mai Lai massacre of women and infants, who reported Abu Ghraib, casually says on RT News that dead kids in Syria are just staged propaganda.https://t.co/3cmlsiQZlt

— Matt Bors (@MattBors) July 1, 2018

hm, that's not what he said

“we keep seeing that same kid covered in dust” that’s truther/“crisis actor” territory in the face of something well documented.

I'll admit it's not great

I hope I have the sense to stop posting before I hit 80

this interview is, uh, somethin' else

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/seymour-hersh-interview-novichok-russian-hacking-9-11-nerve-agent-attack-a8459596.html

That writer suuuuuuuucks

Hersh shows no signs of slowing down. He clearly has plenty of work in progress with the tantalising prospect of reporting on the alleged hacking of the Democratic National Committee and the US election.

Holy shit, that's bad. Doesn't the Independent have editors?

it's on-line only with pretty much a skeleton staff as i understand it

New story:

Seymour Hersh on what George H.W. Bush got up to as Reagan's VP https://t.co/iFhAhq3gk0

— London Review of Books (@LRB) January 16, 2019

hersh: "i don't think that robert mueller is all there."

https://www.salon.com/2019/07/23/investigative-reporter-seymour-hersh-the-world-is-run-by-ignoramuses-wackos-and-psychotics/

I was with you on that all the way. I thought once Hillary called those people "deplorables" it was all over. She was dead from that moment. She lost millions of votes on that by criticizing people who were considering an alternative to her.

I didn't realize this was a commonly accepted belief (per a quick search, a bunch of Hillary staffers have agreed on it losing votes) - I find it difficult to believe was cruising toward even an Obama 2012 small popular vote majority before the deplorables line.

Thoughts on Hersh's NordStream take?

Not really sure what to think. I feel like its plausible, but alternatives are plausible too, which is where I was already on this. There doesn't seem much here to move it beyond that, doesn't feel a particularly solid case.

I had yanks and poles in the office sweepstake