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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 20 May 2004 14:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Honestly, when someone told me about this film (actors filmed against bluescreen w/ computer-animated settings), I was extremely skeptical. Having seen the trailer now, all my fears are settled.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 20 May 2004 14:24 (nineteen years ago) link

It's both promising and not. A little TOO dark and intentionally murky with the visuals.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 May 2004 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link

It's the new Baron Munchausen.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 May 2004 14:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Gwyneth Paltrow AND Angelina Jolie? Count me the fuck out.

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 20 May 2004 15:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Wait, Gwyneth is the other costar? I had deleted that fact from my mind, and now that I know that, I'm with Huck.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 May 2004 15:08 (nineteen years ago) link

i dunno, this movie looks "troubled" (witness the bump to september)

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 20 May 2004 15:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Angelina Jolie with an eye patch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

24 hours with the King of Snake. (SNAKE!) (ex machina), Thursday, 20 May 2004 15:09 (nineteen years ago) link

i like that.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 20 May 2004 15:10 (nineteen years ago) link

(yeah, me too, but begrudgingly)

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 20 May 2004 15:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't approve.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 May 2004 15:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Retro robots are okay with me, though.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 May 2004 15:11 (nineteen years ago) link

it sounds so Futurama and looks so Verne but despite both those things it seems doomed to fail tho i hope it's great

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 20 May 2004 15:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Futurama??? I don't see that at all.

24 hours with the King of Snake. (SNAKE!) (ex machina), Thursday, 20 May 2004 15:15 (nineteen years ago) link

well i can't read the title without thinking of Futurama is all

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 20 May 2004 15:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm looking forward to this one but I still think some studio exec on a coke binge is responsible for approving it.

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 20 May 2004 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link

the studio thought they were going to make out like bandits. they were approached by this kid who was like 'front me some money, i can make you a movie entirely in cg in my house, real cheap.' i think they had originally intended to give it lots of time to finish (like years from now) but it started gaining all of this momentum and they pushed the release date to this summer. now the films not even done yet and theyre having to farm out these really complicated effects shots of ilm, etc. i still think it looks pretty good, and i usually avoid all things jolie.

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Thursday, 20 May 2004 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link

It's the new Baron Munchausen.

Baron Muchausen was a great movie!

Maybe in the investment:flop ratio department though.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 21 May 2004 13:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Jolie's english accent sounds decent. Paltrow though - ugh.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 23 May 2004 19:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Like anyone is gonna go see this movie for the acting. The effects/mise en scene do look rather impressive.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 23 May 2004 22:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Having finally seen the trailer just now, it was time well spent debasing myself in front of my comics heroes at WonderCon instead of attending its preview.

Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Monday, 24 May 2004 00:16 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...
Revive!

I went to see it tonight and didn't care much for it. It was too dark (for the wrong reasons, I thought) and the sound mix was a sea of mud. Too many plot holes, Law and Paltrow phoned it in, and Paltrow's character needed to be drowned in a bucket of piss. On the other hand, I liked Giovanni Ribisi's character and all the Art Deco design.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 18 September 2004 01:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I thought it was good clean fun and the CGI animation was really cool and integrated (unlike the recent Star Wars movies). Lots of references to serials like Flash Gordon and movies from the 40s. I recommend.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Saturday, 18 September 2004 03:08 (nineteen years ago) link

You fuckin' hatah bitchez, when will you ever be happy?

GIANT FIGHTING ROBOTS!

Michael Stuchbery (Mikey Bidness), Saturday, 18 September 2004 03:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Lots of references to serials like Flash Gordon and movies from the 40s. = grebt. And it's all Art Deco / Italian Futurist! I can't imagine not liking this movie.

Tonight at ten (kenan), Saturday, 18 September 2004 03:21 (nineteen years ago) link

it looks like a two-hour fashion spread concept

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 18 September 2004 03:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh references to Metropolis and His Girl Friday as well.... and comic books.

Plus it has Laurence Olivier in it!

Aaron W (Aaron W), Saturday, 18 September 2004 03:31 (nineteen years ago) link

it looks like a two-hour fashion spread concept

You grump. Fashion spreads don't have killer robots.

Tonight at ten (kenan), Saturday, 18 September 2004 03:35 (nineteen years ago) link

um... sorry for the grump comment. But still. This'll be so much sepia-toned soft-focus world's-fair inspired fun! Good god, man!

Tonight at ten (kenan), Saturday, 18 September 2004 03:39 (nineteen years ago) link

You grump. Fashion spreads don't have killer robots.

when was the last time you picked up one of those newer fashion magazines? i can easily imagine kate moss + killer robots.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 18 September 2004 03:42 (nineteen years ago) link

The frickin' clip on Letterman was enough to give me a little stiffy. OMG secret flying aircraft carriers that hide in the clouds! It's like Cloud City, only with these impossible propellors! I love it! I use exclaimation points!

Tonight at ten (kenan), Saturday, 18 September 2004 03:44 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm just waiting for that brad bird movie about the superhero family

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 18 September 2004 03:46 (nineteen years ago) link

A building from the set of Sky Captain:

http://giganticmag.com/photoblog/images/04.03.03.jpg

Tonight at ten (kenan), Saturday, 18 September 2004 03:46 (nineteen years ago) link

i like g. paltrow though

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 18 September 2004 03:46 (nineteen years ago) link

The Incredibles? I'm waiting for that, too.

Tonight at ten (kenan), Saturday, 18 September 2004 03:47 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't actually watch movies anymore, btw.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 18 September 2004 03:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Just Playtime over and over?

Tonight at ten (kenan), Saturday, 18 September 2004 03:48 (nineteen years ago) link

t=That's ok. I don't listen to music anymore, either.

Tonight at ten (kenan), Saturday, 18 September 2004 03:49 (nineteen years ago) link

This looks SO GORGEOUS. all the art deco/futurist/vaseline-on-the-lens = swooning, lots of swooning. The paper today said that it looked really pretty, but had a crap story: i say GOOD! a good story would just interfere with the GORGEOUS aesthetic wank, which is all I'm paying to get.

speaking of which, I was glad that Code 46 was a bit of a disaster script wise for the same reason; i just sat back and *stared* at the beautiful cities et al. i was discomfited, though, by the disturbingly creepy relationship..

derrick (derrick), Saturday, 18 September 2004 05:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Review by teen-age daughter (slightly edited):

There's a reporter. There's always a reporter.

Seriously, who hasn't heard the formula comic-book story a million times over? Approach the plot of Sky Captain the way you'd approach a hot dog: don't look too close, don't think too much, and keep a drink handy to knock out the taste. You could fit an army of German tanks through the loopy logic and plot holes of this movie.

But if plot were the point of Sky Captain, you can bet it wouldn't have gotten out of the negative star ratings. The story is just an excuse for a bunch of animators and designers to say, "Looky at our shiny new toys! Look at what we can do!" like little kids riding without training wheels for the first time. Who needs physical sets anymore, anyway? On the internet, no one knows you're a dog; in movies, no one knows if you're a pixel.

But I won't dock credit where it's due: Sky Captain is the first of its kind, and the first toddling steps have to be applauded even if they don't necessarily keep the toddler upright. So maybe Sky Captain kinda fell on its ass a couple of times -- at least it was trying. And hey, other movies will learn from it (we hope), and then maybe the genre can grow up to suffer acne-flecked teen mishaps like Bakshi's rotoscoped Lord of the Rings and mid-life crises like Bela Lugosi's fatal final work, Plan 9 from Outer Space.

It won't win any awards except maybe for design, because -- much as I hate to admit it -- the design was friggin' AWESOME. But if you miss a good old-fashioned adventure (whatever happened to Indiana Jones? INDIIIIIEEE!) and you think watching an animated comic book might be good for a kick, then go ahead and spend your hard-earned money on a theater viewing. Rental is good enough to get the gist of it, but to really appreciate the feel that Captain was aiming for (judge for yourself whether or not it succeeded), you need to get the big-screen experience.

Summary: Funny-once. Matinee. Turn brain off before watching. Sit back and try to imagine the speech bubbles popping up beside each character in each frame. (Figuring out what random words would be bold in the comic form is good for a grin.) And remember to put the mustard on the bun first!

Hey Jude, Saturday, 18 September 2004 13:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Nice movie. Shame it had all those people.

alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Sunday, 19 September 2004 13:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm amazed no one mentioned how annoying Gwyneth Paltrow was in the movie. She's worse than Jar Jar Binks.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 19 September 2004 23:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh wait someone did.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 19 September 2004 23:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm amazed no one mentioned how annoying Gwyneth Paltrow was in the movie. She's worse than Jar Jar Binks.

Why the "in the movie" qualifier?

Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Sunday, 19 September 2004 23:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha okay she was ESPECIALLY annoying in THIS movie.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 19 September 2004 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link

i like gwyneth p.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, 20 September 2004 02:31 (nineteen years ago) link

I dont think the movie was show offy in the way jude makes it out to be. Originally it was just the director doing all of the effects work himself. I think the whole approach was 'hey paramount, Ill make you an all cgi movie, just give me 20 million and 5+ years and it'll be sweet.' I think paramount commited to having it released now and in doing so, they kinda screwed the pooch and had to hire every single effects house ever to finish on time. but this is just LA bullshit rumor mill and I could be wrong.

still bevens (bscrubbins), Monday, 20 September 2004 02:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, the plot is simple, familiar, and tiresome. Yes, Gwyneth Paltrow's character (the 'intrepid reporter') is annoying (when has there ever been an 'intrepid reporter' character who wasn't?). The visuals are absolutely STUNNING, and it is a total good time. I think it would've faired better having been released in the summer though. Giovanni Ribisi & Angelina Jolie (with fake British accent and eyepatch [Lara Croft + Momus?]) were KICK ASS.

I would recommend going to see this movie with a FIVE YEAR OLD BOY for maximum enjoyment effect.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 20 September 2004 12:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I saw this at a midnight showing on Saturday and loved all the cheesy retroness. Giant Robots! Tibetan monks! It seemed like no actors in the movie took it very seriously, which I think was the best attitude to have. I did giggle though everytime they said "Totenkopf," I'm not sure why.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 20 September 2004 12:24 (nineteen years ago) link

What I said on the Jude Law thread:

Sky Captain has the intriguing combination of some incredible visuals and special effects, almost to the point of being surreal, and the worst dialogue of any movie I have seen in recent memory. The acting is pretty haphazard: Law is kind of boring, Paltrow is terrible, Jolie is surprisingly good.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 20 September 2004 13:31 (nineteen years ago) link

The dialogue was SO BAD that it provided a level of entertainment all it's own. The difference I think between Sky Captain's crummy, predictable dialogue and, say, that of Star Wars or something, is that it seemed most of the cast of Sky Captain EMBRACED the corniness of it (except for Gwyneth Paltrow who seemed like she was actually TRYING).

About halfway through I realized the dark stylishness of it isn't so much for a spooky goth vibe (as I initially thought) as it seems to be a sortuv sepia-tone enhancement of the retro vibe of the whole thing.

Lukas' favorite thing was the robots with the wiggly arms.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 20 September 2004 13:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I thought many parts of this movie were visually beyond beautiful. It makes me think, why doesn't Hollywood take better advantage of its potential more often? I loved the Metropolis look. I could have done without the gross deformed experiment that asked Jude Law to kill him though.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 20 September 2004 13:41 (nineteen years ago) link

It actually kind of reminded me of a Guy Maddin film for a while, especially having the acclimate yourself to an older visual aesthetic at the beginning.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 20 September 2004 13:43 (nineteen years ago) link

The next movie they make like this should NO dialogue and just have frantic pipe organ music.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 20 September 2004 13:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Does anyone actually think this shit looks good? it just looks visually awful. like a barbara walters interview set

\(^o^)/ (Adrian Langston), Monday, 20 September 2004 14:08 (nineteen years ago) link

havent seen it yet, but from the few seconds of a clip it looks bad. and it shouldnt be. this type of jules verne futurism should be R rated. more bladerunner, less family fun

kephm, Monday, 20 September 2004 14:22 (nineteen years ago) link

when has there ever been an 'intrepid reporter' character who wasn't?

nickalicious have you seen his girl friday or the front page?!

amateur!!st, Monday, 20 September 2004 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link

i mean, hildy johnson is annoying, sure--everyone in his girl friday is "annoying," strictly speaking--but in a wonderful, life-affirming, totally outrageous and fun way.

amateur!!st, Monday, 20 September 2004 14:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Surely Hildy isn't annoying because she no longer wants to be an intrepid reporter. (Though cannot help herself).

Its fake intrepid reporters who have no relation to real actual journo's (ie Lois Lane) that are really annoying.

Pete (Pete), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:09 (nineteen years ago) link

was lois lane a reporter? i never read superman comics.

everyone in his girl friday is annoying because they talk all the time and are totally self-centered. that is what makes it so beautiful.

amateur!!st, Monday, 20 September 2004 15:11 (nineteen years ago) link

okay, i liked the movie. and this is really hypercritical of me, but i think someone should have caught this mistake---the movie is set in the '30s, but g. paltrow's character references "WWI". they didn't call it WWI until WWII, and someone should have realized it.

Emilymv (Emilymv), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:34 (nineteen years ago) link

maybe in this alternate universe they already had another war in 1923 or something

amateur!!st, Monday, 20 September 2004 15:35 (nineteen years ago) link

OK, is there any real reason that one scientist had a tiny elephant in a jar? I thought that would come into play later, but maybe it was just an homage to The Amazing Colossal Man or something.

alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Monday, 20 September 2004 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link

And EVERY SINGLE TIME they had a shot of the rocket being loaded with animals it was the EXACT SAME elephant/chimp SFX; I know blah blah 'self conscious camp' but these are the things of drinking games

alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Monday, 20 September 2004 16:15 (nineteen years ago) link

ha ha

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 20 September 2004 16:25 (nineteen years ago) link

The reviewer at Entertainment Weekly had it right: When Jolie delivers the line "Alert the Amphibious Squad," it's just absurdly thrilling in a totally geeked-out way. Like little else in the movie, in fact.

Formerly Lee G (Formerly Lee G), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link

One thing I wasn't clear about: when Dex leaves the map for them, the dialogue seems to suggest that he hid it somewhere, but I couldn't tell from the visuals, which looked like they just found it on the ground. Or was I watching it wrong?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Sunday, 3 October 2004 19:37 (nineteen years ago) link

It was stuck to the underside of a beam with the bazooka joe gum. The shot is pretty tight though, so it's not terribly obvious.

why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Sunday, 3 October 2004 21:41 (nineteen years ago) link

his airplane had incredible range, they couldn't even fly to berlin and back from london but he made it all the way to nepal from new york. candidate for worst movie of the year.

keith m (keithmcl), Sunday, 3 October 2004 23:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I must see it now.

Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Sunday, 3 October 2004 23:38 (nineteen years ago) link

OMG this was terrible. The visuals are annoying, ugly and ridiculous, never remotely beautiful. Enough with the soft-focus to make your cheapo CGI look like an aesthetic choice! All the shots with people were lame, they were all so obviously planned to fit into the CGI-scape - why not just go all the way and make this completely animated?

The references were all cliches (vs. Indiana Jones where the adventure-serial references have a purpose).

Gwyneth Paltrow is the worst actress on Earth.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 4 October 2004 20:56 (nineteen years ago) link

The concept reminded me of Rex Steele: Nazi Smasher, an animated short I missed at the Asian Film Festival.

http://www.woohoopictures.com/

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 4 October 2004 21:06 (nineteen years ago) link

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/catwank/skycaptain.jpg

Catty (Catty), Friday, 15 October 2004 13:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Hahah, if only.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 15 October 2004 13:37 (nineteen years ago) link

eleven years pass...

Finally watched this after being intrigued for ages by Ebert's review and others like it. Flat and boring, I thought - everything paper-thin and the retro aesthetic very incompletely worked-out. Script was also suuuuuper lame; feel like an actual 30s/40s "ace reporter" character would have been given actually snappy, witty dialogue and charming exchanges with Jude Law, rather than just empty signifiers gesturing at the idea of a squabbling couple that will get together at the end. Angelina Jolie's character was also totally worthless and barely in the movie really. Are there people out there for whom this holds up? Are any of its defenders itt still around?

sisterhood of the baggering vance (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 30 April 2016 16:02 (seven years ago) link

I still own the DVD but haven't been able to bring myself to watch it

glandular lansbury (sic), Saturday, 30 April 2016 16:15 (seven years ago) link

Why did people hate gwyneth so much back in 04?

Treeship, Saturday, 30 April 2016 16:18 (seven years ago) link

perhaps this holds a clue?

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 30 April 2016 19:44 (seven years ago) link


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