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@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 14:35 (10 years ago) Permalink

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 14:36 (10 years ago) Permalink

I live on Oakland Walk.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Monday, 3 May 2004 14:36 (10 years ago) Permalink

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 14:37 (10 years ago) Permalink

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 14:37 (10 years ago) Permalink

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 14:38 (10 years ago) Permalink

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 14:39 (10 years ago) Permalink

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 14:40 (10 years ago) Permalink

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 14:41 (10 years ago) Permalink

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 14:42 (10 years ago) Permalink

Bubb Rubb and L'il Siss to thread.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 3 May 2004 14:42 (10 years ago) Permalink

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 14:43 (10 years ago) Permalink

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 3 May 2004 14:44 (10 years ago) Permalink

Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 3 May 2004 14:45 (10 years ago) Permalink

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 14:45 (10 years ago) Permalink

So @d@ml, you will be showing Gareth around Oakland I trust.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 May 2004 14:45 (10 years ago) Permalink

Nah. He can just read this thread.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 14:45 (10 years ago) Permalink

Kris (aqueduct), Monday, 3 May 2004 15:05 (10 years ago) Permalink

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 3 May 2004 15:52 (10 years ago) Permalink

Kris (aqueduct), Monday, 3 May 2004 15:58 (10 years ago) Permalink

Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:02 (10 years ago) Permalink

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:03 (10 years ago) Permalink

Apropos of nothing in particular, gygax!, did you enjoy B&S on Friday?

Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:05 (10 years ago) Permalink

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:13 (10 years ago) Permalink

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:47 (10 years ago) Permalink

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:51 (10 years ago) Permalink

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:53 (10 years ago) Permalink

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:58 (10 years ago) Permalink

this guy's coming to get me

JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:59 (10 years ago) Permalink

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:03 (10 years ago) Permalink

waxyjax (waxyjax), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:06 (10 years ago) Permalink

Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:07 (10 years ago) Permalink

Southern belle gentility in Oakland. Who knew?

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:08 (10 years ago) Permalink

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:13 (10 years ago) Permalink

Dunsmuir House. It's owned by the Oakland Parks Dept.

Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:26 (10 years ago) Permalink

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:27 (10 years ago) Permalink

Spencer...what is that in your third post?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:27 (10 years ago) Permalink

You can now tour the port of oakland by boat.

www.portofoakland.com

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:28 (10 years ago) Permalink

Mormon temple in the hills.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:28 (10 years ago) Permalink

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:32 (10 years ago) Permalink

Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:35 (10 years ago) Permalink

JUICY GOTCHA KRAZY!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:37 (10 years ago) Permalink

Spencer, did you know that Fenton's burned down? My XGF lives right by there and we heard the sirens one night and the cops were there taking the manager and 2 workers away in cuffs in the parking lot while the place erupted in flames despite several firetrucks on the scene (must have been gasoline).

The employees had a rental truck filled with the safe and the jukebox (?).

It reopened after a year but I never went back.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:43 (10 years ago) Permalink

wow! I had no idea. when did this happen???

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 3 May 2004 18:38 (10 years ago) Permalink

mmmm... summer 2002-ish.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 3 May 2004 18:42 (10 years ago) Permalink

actually, just looked it up. November of '01 and reopened in '03

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 3 May 2004 18:44 (10 years ago) Permalink

haha, so much for my memory.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 3 May 2004 18:44 (10 years ago) Permalink

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 3 May 2004 20:25 (10 years ago) Permalink

I will be at Oakland airport Sunday morning for two hours close to 10am. Anyone wanna come over and have breakfast with me?

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:38 (10 years ago) Permalink

Shakey, did you see the thing about the human head being found in the West Oakland recycling center?

You must be very cold in the sack. (sarahell), Friday, 10 May 2013 19:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

um no?!?

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 May 2013 19:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

may have been that of a homicide victim, police said

hmm ya think

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 May 2013 19:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

could have been a suicide

You must be very cold in the sack. (sarahell), Friday, 10 May 2013 19:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm going camping in early june in big basin, want to cap it off w a weekend in oakland. what's a nice hotel / motel / hostel / campground?

the late great, Monday, 13 May 2013 01:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

there's the claremont hotel, but that is super pricey. very nice though. Only hostel I know of is the one at like 14th and Center -- about 7 blocks to West Oakland BART but plenty of street parking.

You must be very cold in the sack. (sarahell), Monday, 13 May 2013 18:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

do air bnb

69, Monday, 13 May 2013 18:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

i would love to stay at the claremont, roll out of bed and pad down to rick and anne's for some red flannel hash. but no, too pricey for me.

the late great, Monday, 13 May 2013 18:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

the scenic Chaparral Motel, in the heart of the Golden Gate district, at the end of my street

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 13 May 2013 19:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

I've always wanted to stay at the Capri Motel on W. Macarthur. I think it has HBO and air conditioning even!

You must be very cold in the sack. (sarahell), Monday, 13 May 2013 19:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

yelp says capri motel closed, but that was a good suggestion!

the late great, Monday, 13 May 2013 19:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

chaparral motel looks kinda bleak

the late great, Monday, 13 May 2013 19:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp - damn, for years I've wanted to do a road trip and stay at all the Capri Motels

You must be very cold in the sack. (sarahell), Monday, 13 May 2013 19:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

you can't camp in tilden, can you?

the late great, Monday, 13 May 2013 19:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

well, I imagine you can camp there in the same way as you can camp at the Albany Bulb

You must be very cold in the sack. (sarahell), Monday, 13 May 2013 19:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

fuck it i should just crash in the park

the late great, Monday, 13 May 2013 19:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

Chabot is the main option for family camping in the east bay. I think you have to make a reservation though.

polyphonic, Monday, 13 May 2013 19:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

wish I'd know about that sooner, all booked up :-(

the late great, Monday, 13 May 2013 19:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

high speed chase went down our street today. cars were going 60 easily.

wmlynch, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 02:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

what neighborhood?

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 03:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

glenview. my wife and daughter were out for a walk at the time. i think the chase ended in dimond, but i haven't seen any news.

wmlynch, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 04:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

I guess proximity to the 580 can send chases ripping through. hope nobody was hurt

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 05:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

Realistically, w/ all the hype Oakland has been getting, there are no real hotel options beside the Claremont and the downtown Marriot. Best to check Air BnB. From a worldly native.

Leon Septamost, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 07:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

I got a solid chuckle at the Chaparral Motel recommendation, that place has terrified me for years.

today's tom soy yum, mean mean thai (Spectrist), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 07:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

It is a total creepout and a blight on my neighborhood.

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 14:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

There's a double tree at the berkeley marina that's ok and a super 8 in el cerrito that's decent

just1n3, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 14:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

whoa

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 04:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

i might as well just crash in people's park

the late great, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 09:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

http://local.nixle.com/alert/5038105/

Sheesh!

polyphonic, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 22:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Dear Oakland,

I fly to you tomorrow. I am excited about seeing you and your lovely weather. What shall I do with you? Eating and outdoorsy stuff (on the cheap) are priorities.

quincie, Monday, 23 September 2013 00:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Yet another "Hey fellow white ppl, Oakland is cool!" article

http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/11/19/a-san-franciscans-guide-to-living-in-oakland/

sarahell, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 02:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://oaklandlocal.com/2013/11/oaklanders-respond-to-controversial-kqed-blog-post-opinion/

an article about the response to the Oakland is cool article

sarahell, Monday, 25 November 2013 06:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

A google bus just headed southbound on market street at 55th, shit is getting real.

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 30 January 2014 02:46 (10 months ago) Permalink

gentrification comedy

^ enlightening post (sarahell), Thursday, 30 January 2014 02:49 (10 months ago) Permalink

I know there are homeless people and drug dealers and prostitutes in Oakland, and I know she's trying to humanize them and encourage others to do the same, but the effect of her words is basically the opposite, and she mischaracterizes Oakland the way the out-of-towners and Temescal/Rockridge people do (and that region is the district of the council member's office she works for, and with that in mind it seems gentrification was the word of the day.).

A lot of her suggestions are nice, but gentrification is a legal/structural problem, and it won't be solved or slowed through mindful behavior. No one is going to open their vanity business and do it mindfully, and even if they somehow manage to in their enterprising white liberal way, you've still got yet another white-owned vanity business in Temescal or wherever, and the property owner is still getting a nice chunk of rent and the values of that property and the surrounding properties are still gonna go up.

That Lost Weekend "comedy" is terrible.

bamcquern, Monday, 3 February 2014 08:36 (10 months ago) Permalink

Her good intentions make me feel moderately guilty for laughing at things like:

4. Pay your taxes, parking tickets and fines with the pleasure of knowing you are financially helping a beautiful, but struggling city. Be grateful if you are able pay them without too much difficulty.

sarahell, Monday, 3 February 2014 08:37 (10 months ago) Permalink

I know. The commenters are 80 times more terrible than she is. She's probably not terrible at all.

bamcquern, Monday, 3 February 2014 08:40 (10 months ago) Permalink

oh I didn't read the comments. my other "favorite" was:

8. See all of Oakland’s problems as opportunities for growth, creative problem solving, and entrepreneurship. Refuse to complain about a problem unless you are willing to play an active part in the solution.

sarahell, Monday, 3 February 2014 08:42 (10 months ago) Permalink

though some of the commenters are somewhat funny, like:
" If I want to start a boutique cat massage salon right next to your 50 year old business, and employ it with rich, white 20-something hipsters, I’ll do just that. And I’ll do it without an ounce of shame."

sarahell, Monday, 3 February 2014 08:44 (10 months ago) Permalink

jesus I put quotes around comedy and now I feel like Whiney ptuh ptuh get it off

bamcquern, Monday, 3 February 2014 09:35 (10 months ago) Permalink

geez I got through about half the comments and had one of those "why am I doing this to myself?" moments of clarity

sarahell, Monday, 3 February 2014 09:38 (10 months ago) Permalink

This has made the rounds over the weekend. I think you can call this "how to be a better neighbor" without using the gentrifier tag at all.

I mean, I never hassled any of the dealers who would park in front of my house all day, nor the occupants of the crackhouse next door. They all were more or less friendly people... but that doesn't mean I didn't want them gone, because of the health and safety dimension that their presence represented. So when the house was sold, gutted, rehabbed and rented, and those characters disappeared I don't really look at that as a net loss.

I guess I feel a little touchy about the gentrification tag. I moved from a rental in Adams Point to buying a house in the North Oakland birthplace of the Black Panthers. We did so because we knew we had a very small window in which we could afford a house in the bay area and wanted to find a residence/location that was at least going to hit some of the things we were after, and this was the place.

In the 3 years we've been there our street hasn't changed a lot but the progression of white hipsters to white hipsters with dogs to white couples with kids has been steady and growing. So I guess as one of those whites I don't know quite where my culpability lies with the gentrification question, but I can at least claim to be a reasonably good neighbor, and my neighbors themselves have all been cool with us, I think.

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 3 February 2014 16:41 (10 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Good comments section on this one:

http://gigaom.com/2014/02/17/some-day-silicon-valley-will-move-north-heres-why-it-should-settle-in-oakland/

polyphonic, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 19:27 (10 months ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

yes i chuckled yesterday imagining the reception out West

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 May 2014 21:05 (7 months ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

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