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Everyone's got one. A favourite Judge Dredd storyline, that is.

I'd have to opt for the first one I ever read, "Fungus", about a particularly virulent mutant strain of mushroom that grew on any unsuspecting passer by. Looking back, it contained the most blatant drug references ever.

An especially poignant moment was the mayor who immediately before his death became convinced he was a mushroom, uttering the immortal dying words: "I am Mayor Jim Mushroom. Please don't eat me!"

So what's your favourite Dredd story and why?

Trevor, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I like "The Day The Law Died". Judge Cal was super funny, especially the running joke about the Judge who spends the entire story in his underpants or the other ones who have to dress up as girls. And Judge Fish was top too.

DV, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

And the Kleggs. Do I win points for knowing the words of their song?

DV, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

only if you record yourself singing it and post it to the ilm listening chamber.

(face it folks, no american will ever admit to liking judge dredd, since for many, liking judge dredd = liking sly stalone.)

jess, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

"The Day The Law Died" is very good but the real answer has to be "The Apocalypse War". Great militarist anti-Soviet war-fear stuff. War Marshal Kazan! Apocalypso! Stub guns! The bit where Dredd shoots himself in the heart! Walter and Mawia! And the final 'moral dilemma' episodes too. Dead good! I used to lean towards other stories but in the end this one has it all.

"The Judge Child Quest" has two or three really bad pacing flaws but when it's good it is bloody good, too.

Best short ones? "Father Earth" is top, and the one where Dredd fights Captain Skank.

Tom, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Captain Skank? Does that mean he was a cheap bottle blond ho?

Nicole, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

No he had robot snakes instead of hair which admittedly would be a good next move for Christina.

Tom, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Skank = Medusa? Odd.

RickyT, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Robot snakes not real ones, for goodness sake get it right.

Tom, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Bloodline is the last one i can remember liking, then i did stop reading about that time.

Alan trewartha, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Alright then, how about Mecha-Medusa?

RickyT, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I second the 'Apocalypse War', surely the highest body count in the comic world until 'Judgement Day'?

DG, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Block Mania - an entire grate story which turned out just to be the *prelude* to the A-War.

First story ever read: Summer special 1986: sth about a boy who got into a secret garden and was let off the hook by Dredd; drawn by Steve Dillon.

Judge Child is up and down. Best when Dillon, not Ron Smith, drawing?

Chopper: some good moments over the years?

Whitey - first ever strip (?); Uggy Apelino; Classic Beginner status like Bill Haley records?

the pinefox, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Actually Judge Cal = a bit of a Dud, I think.

What about Democracy (?), c. June 1987 (?)?

the pinefox, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

how about instead of fave storyline, fave dredd artist. anyone remember the cartoon portraying the transformation from ezquerra dredd to ian gibson dredd: pulling out helmet into wings, smashing self in nose, wearing larger boots. :-)

Ezquerra Dredd is my definitive vision as i look back.

, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

democracy! was that about the same time as bloodline. Did they ever take either of those stories anywhere. like i said i stopped around then, but i thought those were both "sleeper" stories that would change the whole dredd thing. what's Dredd doing now? is it still alternating whacky/serious violence stories or what?

, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

7 years pass...

On the prospect of working on a new Judge Dredd film, Danny Boyle said reports linking him to the 2000 AD sci-fi franchise were not accurate.

"Where has this come from?" he said. "Someone asked me about Judge Dredd the other day!

"I hated the last version of it; I can't imagine the next one will be any better."

you'd think he'd be used to people confusing him with Danny Cannon

Timezilla vs Mechadistance (blueski), Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

Still reckon Verhoeven could do a killer Dredd movie.

chap, Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

Total Recall was very 2000ADish.

chap, Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

Apocalypse War as long as I get to include Block Mania as part of it.

Also I remember a one-shot that freaked me out as kid - it was all about the fad for people making themselves ugly through surgery. Don't know the title though!

ears are wounds, Friday, 9 January 2009 16:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

Apocalypse War is fucking untouchable, yeah. I like Oz a lot, though not a lot of other people seem to. It's really interestingly structured; the first and third acts barely feature Dredd at all.

chap, Friday, 9 January 2009 17:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

Block Mania - totally awesome, but for me Apocalypse War was where Judge Dredd started its slide into shite. Ezquerra phoned in his art, while the story was plodding and uninventive.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Friday, 9 January 2009 18:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

Birth Control to Ginger Tom (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 January 2009 18:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

pretty sure those two posts before the break are me too. wonder why my name fell off? :-/

anyway - what is this, revive thread friday??

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 9 January 2009 18:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

http://www.avclub.com/articles/judge-dredd-20-oh-yeah-its-happening,32666/

Potentially exciting news, I've been waiting most of my life for a decent Dredd film.

chap, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 10:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Block Mania - totally awesome, but for me Apocalypse War was where Judge Dredd started its slide into shite. Ezquerra phoned in his art, while the story was plodding and uninventive.

Really, this is an absurd thing to say. Absurd! "Apocalypse War", while padded like most of those long stories are, is full of great inventive moments, like the whole sequence with the Mega City nukes being teleported to a parallel earth and wiping it out in the space of two pages. And the brilliantly nasty scene of the Judges coldly executing traitors! And "The citizens? What makes you think *they'd* be interested?" And sorry, you are just plain WRONGE about Ezquerra's art.

I think it is true, however, that fans tend to overrate the Wagner/Grant era, maybe for nostalgic reasons. Certainly, reading lots of these together in the Casebook reprints makes me realise how forgettable a lot of them were(which is unsurprising when you think how many they had to churn out per year, added to the fact they were writing something like two thirds of the whole comic at one stage). And I def think Wagner has done more interesting stuff as a solo writer, cf "America" et al.

Pheeel, Saturday, 10 October 2009 22:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

10 months pass...

http://judgeminty.blogspot.com/

like an ant to a crumb (DavidM), Friday, 3 September 2010 11:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

That looks pretty Zarjaz! Excellent casting on Dredd, looks wise anyway.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Friday, 3 September 2010 14:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Didn't even know there was a new Dredd film in the offing! I still have my reservations about the costume, though the helmet and grimace look pretty spot on. I get a kind of Wire of the future vibe from that pic, which would be too far in the other direction from the Stallone film.

A brownish area with points (chap), Saturday, 20 November 2010 01:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

I'm looking forward to the new flick, though it doesn't appear they've quite got the look of MC-1 right:
http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/Dreddimage_2_big.jpg

The buildings should be more bulbous, and there should be more twisty ramps.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:49 (11 months ago) Permalink

http://youtu.be/PifvRiHVSCY

La Roux!

DavidM, Sunday, 24 June 2012 08:34 (10 months ago) Permalink

Really not sure about the current Dredd story seems to be rather too all over the place, though maybe some somewhat extraneous bits were tidied up a couple of weeks back. Put in a bottle for further good use?

Occurred to me that they didn't know what to do with Dredd at the moment and might actually be trying to kill him off. Though likelihood is that he will come through and save the day. & maybe it isn't Dredd they're killing off, major deathtoll in MC1 so far.

Interesting to hear about a film in the works, not sure how I missed hearing that before. & yes MC1 does look a bit wrong in that image

Stevolende, Sunday, 24 June 2012 09:38 (10 months ago) Permalink

Should have said that current story started off ok but just seems to be going on & on. Are there too many people writing variations on things or something?

Stevolende, Sunday, 24 June 2012 09:39 (10 months ago) Permalink

Somebody's just upped several different torrents containing all the Dredd epics to date on Demonoid.

Looks like the current epic is drawing to a close too.

Stevolende, Sunday, 1 July 2012 18:49 (10 months ago) Permalink

:D :D :D

fancy cure from all alarms (☆), Friday, 13 July 2012 08:31 (10 months ago) Permalink

nsfw btw

fancy cure from all alarms (☆), Friday, 13 July 2012 08:32 (10 months ago) Permalink

I saw that there was a cardboard advertising stand in the cinema i saw Spiderman in this week, so the film is obviously much further along than I'd assumed. & IMDB has it as complete since April.

Looks like it's a bit more near future than I'd've expected. Looks like its current dystopia plus people in uniforms but I guess it's only 100 years from now in the stories I'm reading now from the mid 80s, getting on for 30 years ago. Though the change in the way things look now from 100 years ago is a bit more extreme isn't it?

That is going on that clip and the other trailer.
& yeah would repeat what somebody said earlier about the cityscape looking much more square/rectangular than the rounded shapes you get in the comics.

Is that Judge Anderson the blonde with who I suppose to be Dredd? Only blonde I'm aware of from the comics that you frequently see with no helmet on. Is the helmet free thing supposed to enhance or rather not limit her psychic powers? Cos otherwise you'd expect her to be wanting to wear one in a situation like that, wouldn't you?

Stevolende, Friday, 13 July 2012 10:09 (10 months ago) Permalink

Looking like an SF version of The Raid.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 13 July 2012 12:11 (10 months ago) Permalink

Looking like an SF version of The Raid.

I thought the same thing!

I found him in a Bon Ton ad (Nicole), Friday, 13 July 2012 13:28 (10 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

It's not dissimilar to The Raid, but it's also pretty good at being Dredd. Fascist police, lots of good incidental details (including most of the bullet-types), Dredd keeps his bloody helmet on.

It also, I was _very_ surprised to find out, one of the most beautiful 3D films I've ever seen, up there with Avatar.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 7 September 2012 23:22 (8 months ago) Permalink

Al Ewing just posted his thumbs-up on Twitter.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 8 September 2012 00:49 (8 months ago) Permalink

Really want to see this in the cinema, but don't think I know anyone who'll go with me.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 8 September 2012 01:20 (8 months ago) Permalink

Personally, I would have liked Mega-City One to have been more like it is in 2000AD; more stylised, more sky walkways and rounded buildings. More life, more craziness. But as a rough, tough action flick, it delivers. And Urban nails Dredd.

DavidM, Saturday, 8 September 2012 10:40 (8 months ago) Permalink

I was thinking "Not enough chin!" but that's probably just a result of later artists (including imho the definitive Dredd artist Ron Smith) emphasising it, if you look at the Mike McMahon from Dredd's first appearance on the wiki page, Urban pretty much nails it.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 8 September 2012 10:45 (8 months ago) Permalink

Haven't seen the Raid but did really enjoy this.
It does look like its a lot less futuristic than the comic strip but it might be the more realistic for it. Also the uniform looks like its more practical than the strip one, may just be over what looked right on an actual human being. Though leather or synthi-leather smoothness plus joint pads might be more sexy.

I can't remember to what extent the Stallone film changed the uniform. & I'm also only just realising the absence of robots in the film, whereas there was a Hammerstein in the old one.

But it is great that this exists without a need to make a direct comparison to the earlier film, even having done so. This is a very atymospheric film that seems to keep up a level of intensity throughout. It just seems to be about 50 years before the comic version in termas of distance from now.

It starts with a chase on ground level in a part of the city that has been pretty much closed off to the normal human population in the comic strip. Seems that people are still living in contact with the original city ground level in this. I think it's a mutie only zone or at least an undercity in the comic. The roads in that are all in the sky to the current city level, in the film there actually does appear to be a floor.

Liked it though & it does seem that most films do tend to make rather large changes to source material to make things work on screen. Think I would have preferred a straighter translation though. But if there are more films by this team on this subject matter I won't be complaining, unlike the Stallone one.

Wouldn't mind seeing a Johnny Alpha film if it was done as well.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 21:52 (8 months ago) Permalink

agree with the beauty in the use of 3D somebody says above too. droplets and water sheets especially .
& slow motion shootouts pretty impressive.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 21:54 (8 months ago) Permalink

Really enjoyed this a lot, the repositioning in '10 minutes into the future' really works. This was made worse by the trailer for End of Watch beforehand, which made Los Angeles today look like a slightly more low-rent version of Mega City One.

Two Fatties shown during the film as far as I could see. My reaction to the first one was that he wasn't that fat and to the second one that he was a real guy without makeup. The future is now, huh.

passive-aggressive display name (aldo), Monday, 17 September 2012 16:11 (8 months ago) Permalink

ha this was awesome, saw it twice, in 2D and 3D. 2D was better i thought

i think the fatty in his apartment may have had some padding!

DG, Monday, 17 September 2012 16:22 (8 months ago) Permalink

Garland said as much in an interview I saw, re: fascistic tendencies. 'Twould probably be the judges coming up against pro-democracy rebellions. The third in a possible trilogy would be the entrance of the Dark Judges, i.e. showing the Judge fascist state taken to its absurdist extreme.

"An Andy Kaufman for the Four Loko generation" (R Baez), Friday, 28 September 2012 01:00 (7 months ago) Permalink

i really dug this movie--never read judge dredd stuff consistently as getting it affordably in the us is a huge bitch. i've been looking through d-w0lk's dredd reckoning blog and have been trying to figure out where to start. is the case filed 04 book a reasonable place?

adam, Saturday, 29 September 2012 19:46 (7 months ago) Permalink

case files, rather

adam, Saturday, 29 September 2012 19:46 (7 months ago) Permalink

I think they had considered the Judge Child, the America story which could be what R Baez is referring to as coming up against the pro-Democracy rebels. and a couple of other things which I can't remember offhand.
There was a good interview with Garland in last month's Dredd Megazine which was a Dredd 3D special too.
I hadn't realised that Megazine was doing new stories until pretty recently, thought it was mainly reprints for some reason.
Might buy some future editions now. Bit expensive though.

Stevolende, Saturday, 29 September 2012 19:55 (7 months ago) Permalink

If you can face sitting at a computer while you read through Dredd you can get pretty much everything as cbr files I think.
Certainly cam,e across all the epics from near the beginning a few months back though that was on Demonoid. Should be able to find it elsewhere though I would think.

Stevolende, Saturday, 29 September 2012 19:58 (7 months ago) Permalink

yup, good call. thanks!

the more i think about this movie the more i like it.

adam, Sunday, 30 September 2012 16:10 (7 months ago) Permalink

So supposing someone had acquired the Complete Case Files 1-4 through *cough* entirely legal means, but couldn't find any of the subsequent Case Files books. Where should this hypothetical someone (and his- or her!- thorough respect for copyright law both domestic and international) go next?

muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Sunday, 30 September 2012 18:22 (7 months ago) Permalink

alt.binaries.comics.british

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Sunday, 30 September 2012 19:51 (7 months ago) Permalink

film reminded me v strongly of something like enzo g castellari's bronx warriors - a suitably violent, properly exploitative, ersatz (european) approximation of america and american pop cult. movie also gave off a heavy death race 2000 vibe, p appropriate seeing that that was the main source for dredd's comic bk costumes/visuals.

thought the low budget showed in places - too many oppressively tiny sets and identikit corridors - and that the film needed a stronger supporting cast (more grotesque-sweaty british character actors, please.) also, in places the dialogue was a bit underpowered - it's faithful to the spirit of the comic bks, in that dredd isn't a zing-master, but lots of the dialogue exchanges still fell pretty flat, imho.

Ward Fowler, Monday, 1 October 2012 05:07 (7 months ago) Permalink

felt like a peak-period john carpenter movie

haha, assault on precinct 13!!

barthes simpson, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 02:55 (7 months ago) Permalink

I was torn on whether I liked the score to the film. Had a few pangs of missing that DROKK album that came out.

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 14:18 (7 months ago) Permalink

Dredd has pretty much failed to meet it's budget, let alone turn profit, so I doubt we'll see another. And it's all thanks to stupid bloody 3D.

http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2012/10/16/dredd-shows-why-the-3d-film-format-is-doomed-again/

comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 08:31 (7 months ago) Permalink

Bummer. I'll always choose to see a movie in 2D if I can but I didn't mind the 3D in this too much. It would be super-shitty if it was denied a sequel because Lion's Gate forced cinemas to show it almost exclusively in 3D.

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 09:20 (7 months ago) Permalink

That's an interesting article, but correlation is not cause when it comes to recession and the fad for 3D cinema IMO.

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 09:32 (7 months ago) Permalink

Dress always felt like a big moneymaker in the home market though. More teenagers will get access to it and it'll get great word of mouth for the kids.
It'll turn an easy profit, just not on £15 cinema tickets.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 10:01 (7 months ago) Permalink

I like your confidence.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 16:55 (7 months ago) Permalink

UK probably got more of the forced 3D than the US. That's tended to be my experience, anyway. I saw it in 2D no problem.

This flopped because nobody gave a shit, not because it was in 3D.

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 17:17 (7 months ago) Permalink

lol, yes

I am debating whether it falls into the group of things I would consider purchase of

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 17:45 (7 months ago) Permalink

It only played in 3D here so I didn't go. 3D gives me headaches.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 17:46 (7 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...
3 months pass...

Loved this movie. So bracing to see a "superhero" movie that isn't bothered about origin stories, mythology and delineating a world but just gets down to it - all show, no tell. Also thought Lena Headey's Ma-Ma was an unusually original villain.

Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 11 March 2013 12:21 (2 months ago) Permalink

before the film was released there was an online comic strip that gave the back story to ma-ma ..

http://www.scribd.com/doc/104439907/DREDD-MA-MA

mark e, Monday, 11 March 2013 13:24 (2 months ago) Permalink

It seems like it is slowly clawing back the costs after Worldwide and DVD, outside chance there may be another, perhaps. Then again, maybe it would be nice not to have endless sequels like every other franchise.

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 11 March 2013 16:23 (2 months ago) Permalink

I'm good with ongoing serialized adventures, tbh

Making every movie, especially every comic book adaptation, a BIG STORY with EPIC BATTLES is kind of overblown. I could really watch a well-crafted Dredd film every couple years, though.

☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Monday, 11 March 2013 16:34 (2 months ago) Permalink

Yeah, the idea that it's just one more day in the life of Judge Dredd was particularly welcome.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 11 March 2013 16:39 (2 months ago) Permalink

the first dredd film occupies a pretty terrible part of my psyche (for non-filmic reasons), but the newest is a perfect dredd movie? gimme dredd serials plz

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Monday, 11 March 2013 18:47 (2 months ago) Permalink

I wasn't super impressed by this... Yeah, some it had some nice action pieces, and it was cool so little time was wasted on origin story and stuff like that, but there was absolutely none of the social satire either. Like, if Dredd and the other Judges come off unambiguously as the the good guys, I don't think you've captured the essence of the comic. And even the action got a bit boring towards the end; I understand the budget was small, but there's only so much you can do with characters running through endless corridors.

Tuomas, Monday, 11 March 2013 18:54 (2 months ago) Permalink

well, they definitely weren't unambiguously the good guys in that several of them were corrupt and paid off by the criminals, but you are correct that their enforcement of the law never seemed to impinge on anyone innocent's rights

☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Monday, 11 March 2013 19:12 (2 months ago) Permalink

the satire & ambiguity was there imo, it just wasnt played for laughs

turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 11 March 2013 19:14 (2 months ago) Permalink

i'm not sure it was played for laughs in the comics, either, tbh.

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Monday, 11 March 2013 19:21 (2 months ago) Permalink

there was that part with the panhandling dude who got crushed by the door

☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Monday, 11 March 2013 19:32 (2 months ago) Permalink

Well yeah, I didn't mean the corrupt Judges, they're a cop movie cliche... What I meant was that here Dredd and Anderson and their employers were still forces of good, whereas in the original comics the dynamic is that whenever you start feeling Dredd and the Judges are heroes, there's always an issue or a storyline that reminds you they're fascist cops working for a fascist police state. And that wasn't in the movie, the social commentary was limited to a couple of throwaway jokes, like then panhandler scene. So Dredd felt more like a Dirty Harry style "tough but honest cop" story imported into the future than any kind of dystopian fiction.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 08:04 (2 months ago) Permalink

iirc the second-movie-that-may-never-happen was going to focus on the fascist police state aspect.

凸凹凸凹凸凹凸 (c sharp major), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 09:50 (2 months ago) Permalink

Ah, okay. I guess I would've been more okay with this if was a great action introduction to the Dredd world, but even the action bits started feeling repetitive and boring towards the end. They should've spiced things up by adding weirdo block inhabitants like in the comics, now everything felt too serious.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 10:02 (2 months ago) Permalink

nah you can see him not wanting to put a wide audience off with weird shit first time out. if the second one had happened then it would totally work that they start expanding the world out and underlining the iniquity of the world more from there.

that said it's p f obv from the judges/block setup in this that it's no utopia!

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:50 (2 months ago) Permalink

Yeah, it's not utopia, but like I said this felt more like a "tough but honest cop in a violent world" type of story than one where the cops are part of the problem, not the solution. (Though TBH the comics aren't always very consistent on this subject either - in some stories the writers seem to be saying that Judges are necessary because everyone in Mega-City One is so crazy and violent.)

Tuomas, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 12:41 (2 months ago) Permalink

I think that ambiguity is one of my favourite things about the comics - the Judges are fascist bastards but for the most part the population are feckless idiots who would likely not be any better off without them. Mega-City One voted to keep the Judge system in place when given the option to adopt a more democratic society, after all.

As I said upthread, I really liked this movie - I want to see it again now!

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 13:15 (2 months ago) Permalink

hasn't Dredd typically been portrayed as honest/unsentimental to a fault, tho, tuomas? how many stories end with him arresting the supposed victim?

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 13:30 (2 months ago) Permalink

there's always an issue or a storyline that reminds you they're fascist cops working for a fascist police state. And that wasn't in the movie

i thought almost everything they did reminded you they were fascist cops in the employ of a police state... the ending gag is that dredd passes anderson and we get a more conscientious, humane boot stomping on a human face forever

turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 13:36 (2 months ago) Permalink

no kidding, she was practically a pacifist hippie compared to the rest of the judges

☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 13:40 (2 months ago) Permalink

tbh Dredd passing Anderson was a bit of a surprise; failing her would've been v much in character

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 13:42 (2 months ago) Permalink

But isn't there a connection between them in 2000ad, or am I misremembering?

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 13:48 (2 months ago) Permalink

there is, yeah, but don't remember the deets

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 14:00 (2 months ago) Permalink

It must be 20 years since I read it!

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 14:22 (2 months ago) Permalink

Anderson was a supporting character in Dredd who got her own series in the 1980s. In the comics Anderson and Dredd are friends (well, as much as anyone can be Dredd's "friend") and often work together, though there are similar moral quarrels (Anderson being far more liberal than Dredd) between them as in the movie. They usually collaborate when Judge Death and the Dark Judges are involved, because Anderson has a special connection to them, and was originally introduced in the same story as Judge Death.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 14:39 (2 months ago) Permalink

The Dark Judges play the role of justifying Dredd's fascism and that of the Mega Cities' governments to some extent, don't they? Police state required to stave off the greater evil etc.?

Neil S, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 14:44 (2 months ago) Permalink

I don't think so... The police state tends to be pretty powerless against the Dark Judges, it's usually a few courageous individuals who manage to defeat them. The Dark Judge stories are more typically good vs. evil kind of stories, instead of ones with social commentary or satire.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 15:19 (2 months ago) Permalink

aha okay, only properly familiar with early Dredd tbh

Neil S, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 15:21 (2 months ago) Permalink

this got comparisons to The Raid right? (On iPhone)

cuz I have tried and failed to watch that twice now because of the overbearing fascistic tone of it. v diff from this Dredd I thought

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 15:48 (2 months ago) Permalink

Yeah, both films are lean action movies about cops fighting their way to the top of a tower block filled with murderous maniacs in order to bring a crime lord to justice. In practice though they're quite distinct from each other (and I enjoyed Dredd more).

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 16:12 (2 months ago) Permalink


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