TS: LRB VS TLS

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For some bizarre reason, the TLS costs less in France where I live than it does in the UK, whereas the LRB is prohibitively expensive so I rarely read it except the bits on line. When it's good it's very good. The TLS has a far more eclectic mix of material though, which I like. I find myself reading reviews of obscure German-language art history books or a social history of Jews in Ireland or whatever.

Jonathan Z. (Joanthan Z.), Friday, 12 March 2004 14:25 (twenty years ago) link

LRB?

jel -- (jel), Friday, 12 March 2004 14:29 (twenty years ago) link

The TLS seems to have improved a lot recently - well, I've noticed that the covers have got better. At a previous job my office subscribed to the TLS and I rarely got much out of it... it seemed quite stuffy and snooty and academic. Whereas with the LRB I often find myself reading articles about books I have no interest in. The LRB does have a kind of drippy Hampstead-y thing about it, which puts me off slightly (I really wish they wouldn't put those watercolours on the front!). But it's nicer typographically. And, as I have mentioned elsewhere: the new issue has 5,000 words of Thomson on Didion!!! (And a quite useful mousemat with diacritic shortcuts on it.)

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 12 March 2004 14:30 (twenty years ago) link

London Review of Books, I presume?

Sengai, Friday, 12 March 2004 14:31 (twenty years ago) link

I agree, the watercolour covers are a big turn-off. There's something a bit fusty and occasionally right-wing about the TLS, but I tend to find a bit more to read in it than the LRB.

Plus I wrote a book and the TLS reviewed it and the LRB didn't, so the TLS is automatically superior.

Jonathan Z. (Joanthan Z.), Friday, 12 March 2004 14:34 (twenty years ago) link

I had a letter in the LRB about COMICS so it is much better.

DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 12 March 2004 15:47 (twenty years ago) link

I did work experience at the TLS a couple of years ago - most people there seemed sassy and cool and sorted. The magazine I find kinda dismal - it smothers everything in faint english moderation, and I hardly ever find the articles that interesting qua themselves...

The NYRB roX0rs my boX0rs.

Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Friday, 12 March 2004 19:28 (twenty years ago) link

Isn't the NYRB the most horribly designed magazine in the world, though, Gregory?

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 12 March 2004 20:31 (twenty years ago) link

surprisingly: TS: TLS vs LRB

c. (synkro), Friday, 12 March 2004 22:02 (twenty years ago) link

nine years pass...

lrb >>>>>

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 27 June 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link

There was a blog recently about the LRB not having enough women writers, cf. the VIDA counts. Blog author was saying they'd cancel their subscription.

I was shocked at the VIDA counts - which looked at percentage of content by men vs content by women across a number of journals and magazines, and the numbers skewed heavily toward male writers - but equally I was slightly bemused by the wave of commenters saying they were going to cancel their subscriptions, in a world where, you know, lad mags and tabloids still exist

cardamon, Thursday, 27 June 2013 22:13 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

subs are super-cheap at the moment, £30 for 30 issues.
ian penman mod article this issue:
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v35/n16/ian-penman/even-if-you-have-to-starve

woof, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 11:17 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

Been reading TLS more and more for fiction reviews this year! They write about novels and poetry I am more interested in more often.

LRB is still good on non-fiction.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 26 November 2015 14:02 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

Like this huuge piece on Angola

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 March 2016 12:05 (eight years ago) link

Read it!

A Fifth Beatle Dies (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 March 2016 12:11 (eight years ago) link

Its really good!

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 March 2016 12:16 (eight years ago) link

yeah v interesting, always been intrigued by that area of history - since meeting a friend of my dad's who was a medic with the cuban army during the conflict - but have never read up on it.

uncle tenderlegdrop (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 17 March 2016 22:47 (eight years ago) link

enjoyed this piece about chilcot and maxwellisation too

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v38/n06/frederick-wilmot-smith/blame-robert-maxwell

uncle tenderlegdrop (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 17 March 2016 22:52 (eight years ago) link

eight months pass...

LRB vs. NYRB? I didn't want to start a new thread for it - in part, somewhat, to the inexplicable existence of four of these TLS vs LRB ones (?) already.

I've subscribed to both in the past and would like to start up one again as a Chrismukkah gift to myself (I think both would be a bit indulgent, not to mention hard to keep up with), but I keep going back and forth between the two.

I like the LRB' regular contributors better and prefer it's "politics", so to speak over the NYRB. But, yeah, the NYRB is twice as long and I reliably will always find at least 1-2 very good or interesting articles in each issue. My personal antipathy to, say, reviews of books on Elizabethan history in the former is more or less cancelled out by reviews of books on the founding fathers in the latter. Each of them have been great at bringing books to my attention throughout the year that I may not otherwise have looked at (or heard about).

Curious to hear anyone else's thoughts on the matter!

Federico Boswarlos, Saturday, 3 December 2016 17:05 (seven years ago) link

There's a Perry Anderson essay on LRB vs NYRB in Spectrum. It's been a long time since I've read it but I enjoyed it at the time. Can't find a complete version on web but here's a google books scan with a few pages missing

I've only ever been subscribed to the LRB, via a precocious friend of mine in college who would gift me his Get A Friend Hooked free subscriptions, but I've read enough NYRB on print and on web to have formed the following impressions

LRB is more explicitly left-wing (in particular New Left), NYRB more centrist along the lines of NYT or New Yorker
LRB tends more academic + musty, NYRB more pop-culture friendly
NYRB is more timely and topical (I find there's usually a longer lag between a major foreign policy event and the LRB write-up, but it may be longer and more of a deep-dive)

flopson, Saturday, 3 December 2016 19:44 (seven years ago) link

Those are good points and I agree with each of the impressions. Perry Anderson's essays are actually one of my favourite things about the LRB! As a side note, I'm waiting for the (eventual?) book, which will collect the ones on Brazil, China, Russia, etc. that he's published over the years. I'll have to see if I can find the essay online or a copy of Spectrum at the library - I'd love to read his thoughts on both.

I do wonder what the NYRB will look like when Bob Silvers hands over the editorial reins.

Federico Boswarlos, Saturday, 3 December 2016 20:26 (seven years ago) link

Maybe a better question is LRB personals vs NYRB ones...

Federico Boswarlos, Saturday, 3 December 2016 20:30 (seven years ago) link

I enjoy them both. Subscribe to the LRB, but the NYRB is reliably available from my local library via Zinio (and also easily found in pirate PDFs online if that's your thing).

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 02:39 (seven years ago) link

Oh man, I never would have thought to check Zinio. I assumed they didn't go for that kind of thing, given how step their paywalls and digital access can be.

Amazing, thanks so much for mentioning that!

Federico Boswarlos, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 03:23 (seven years ago) link

:)

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 04:10 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

The LRB published what seems like a dreck of a piece on Grenfell. Its 65K, a housing journalist politely picked it apart:

1. Thread on the Andrew O’Hagan Grenfell article in the LRB. Can’t say I’ve read every word but I’ve tried to pick out the key points and take them in the order they’re presented.

— Luke Barratt (@lukewbarratt) May 30, 2018

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 20:39 (five years ago) link

I wish people would call it lying, shit journalism or something, anything other than "fake news".

calzino, Saturday, 9 June 2018 11:49 (five years ago) link

That guardian piece is pretty reasonable although this is dumb and the answer is obvious:

But it’s simply wrong to claim that public, press and activists were united in their efforts to blame the council, and pin everything on its leader, Nicholas Paget-Brown, and his deputy, Rock Feilding-Mellen. If this were the case, how on earth did the Conservatives get re-elected to run the council only last month?

o'hagan's piece is far too combative, self-righteous, tendentious, and artistically licensed, which is a shame as he does make interesting points about the council's response vs. the visibilty & media picture of their response.

lana del boy (ledge), Sunday, 10 June 2018 13:36 (five years ago) link


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