Is this anti-semitism?

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there are two kinds of jews you see

pass the duchy pon the left hand side (musical duke) (Hurting 2), Monday, 31 October 2011 04:23 (twelve years ago) link

I am enlightened enough to know that

pass the duchy pon the left hand side (musical duke) (Hurting 2), Monday, 31 October 2011 04:24 (twelve years ago) link

do u know the joke about the difference between an anti-Semite and a Jew? you ask an anti-Semite what he thinks about the Jews and he tells you, "they run all the banks. they are greedy, blood sucking vampires and scum of the earth." but you ask him about goldberg and he says, "oh, goldberg, he's a good guy," and about his friend stern and he says, "well of course stern is an exception that proves the rule." you ask a Jew what he thinks about the Jews and he says, "the chosen people. truly a light unto the world." ask him about goldberg tho and he says, "goldberg is a dirty cheat." and about stern? "a fucking bastard."

Mordy, Monday, 31 October 2011 04:25 (twelve years ago) link

I've always been convinced that it's something about the sound of the word / the letter 'z' that makes it so imposing and mysterious and conspiracy-theorist-friendly

iatee, Monday, 31 October 2011 04:26 (twelve years ago) link

the "bad guy" banker in margin call is named jared cohen. none of the other characters have jewish names.

max, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 04:07 (twelve years ago) link

yeah I noticed that in the review I read, and I hesitate to call out shit like that but it sounded sort of o_0.

I'm also sort of torn on the harping on Goldman Sachs, the jewiest sounding investment bank. OOH they are shitheads, but otoh they really did not singlehandedly engineer the crisis. If you go down the exec rolls at a lot of the major finance companies, you don't actually find that many jews. I don't think any of the major people in AIG Financial Products were Jewish, or the people running Countrywide or the other big mortgage originators.

pass the duchy pon the left hand side (musical duke) (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 04:15 (twelve years ago) link

hurting, you're all about the anti-Semitism exposing these days!

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 04:16 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think the goldman sachs harping is cause of the jewiness, but maybe it's hard for me to look at it the way someone else would

iatee, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 04:23 (twelve years ago) link

i always thought the singling out of goldman sachs was the Hank Paulson connection

encarta it (Gukbe), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 04:33 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

And Katy Perry's family circus goes on.

Days after Russell Brand filed for divorce from the singer, her father is drawing criticism from the Anti-Defamation League for a sermon he delivered last week at a church in Ohio.

Keith Hudson, an evangelist preacher, spewed anti-Semitic epithets in front of hundreds of worshippers, according to various reports.

"You know how to make the Jew jealous?" he said at the Church on the Rise, a nondenominational church in Westlake, Ohio. "Have some money, honey. You go to L.A. and they own all the Rolex and diamond places. Walk down a part of L.A. where we live and it is so rich it smells. You ever smell rich? They are all Jews, hallelujah! Amen."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/09/us-katyperry-idUSTRE8082I420120109

i couldn't adjust the food knobs (Phil D.), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

I think that's anti-semitism, yes.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 21:31 (twelve years ago) link

The Rev. Keith Hudson, father of pop megastar Katy Perry, spoke at Church on the Rise in Westlake on Thurs, Jan. 5, and made comments stereotyping Jews that the church's pastor Paul Endrei said were taken out of context.
Endrei confirmed that Hudson told attendees, "You know how to make the Jew jealous? Have some money, honey. You go to L.A., and they own all the Rolex and diamond places. Walk down a part of L.A. where we live and it is so rich it smells. You ever smell rich? They are all Jews, hallelujah. Amen."
But Hudson's remarks were meant to be complimentary, said Endrei, a Shaker Heights native.
"He was praying for business owners ... he was talking about being blessed in life," he said. "What (Hudson) said was, ‘God wants you to be blessed and have God's favor on your life, like the Jews are blessed. He wants you to be so blessed that you can even make the Jews jealous,' which was inappropriate.
"You might say that with your friend or whatever, but it was inappropriate," Endrei said. "If he would've just said, ‘Hey, God wants you to be blessed,' it would've been fine. He went too far."

buzza, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, he also used the "some of my best friends are" excuse, too.

i couldn't adjust the food knobs (Phil D.), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link

I clearly am related to the wrong Jews. I want to be related to Keith Hudson's Jew-friends. Although since they are Jews they probably wouldn't give me any money, any money.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

Repeated for extra anti-semitism I guess.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

In any case, fuck "prosperity gospel" and "pro-Israel" Christians.

i couldn't adjust the food knobs (Phil D.), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 22:50 (twelve years ago) link

weird non-sequitor

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 23:03 (twelve years ago) link

People who are being complimentary to Jews often refer to them, collectively, as "The Jew"

Oh shit, that's my bone! (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 23:17 (twelve years ago) link

Mordy, if you click through, that's their excuse for how they couldn't possibly be anti-Semitic. Why, they're pro-Israel and preach along with Messianic Jews!

i couldn't adjust the food knobs (Phil D.), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 23:22 (twelve years ago) link

"the jew is using the black as muscle against you"

http://www.bluesbrotherscentral.com/images/profiles/characters/henry-gibson.jpg

omar little, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 23:26 (twelve years ago) link

I think that's anti-semitism, yes.

― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, January 10, 2012 3:31 PM (2 hours ago)

goole, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 23:37 (twelve years ago) link

on a side note, what's with that picture?

goole, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 23:38 (twelve years ago) link

He's about to go swimming, if memory serves

Do you know what the secret of comity is? (Michael White), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 23:41 (twelve years ago) link

Could you all stop saying "Jews" and just use the whole word?

Mariusz Smiley (admrl), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 23:43 (twelve years ago) link

Jewjews?

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 23:45 (twelve years ago) link

Jewishes?

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 23:45 (twelve years ago) link

jeweriness

carpy deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 23:46 (twelve years ago) link

my preferred term is yidden tbh

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 23:47 (twelve years ago) link

as in: "what up, yidden?"

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 23:47 (twelve years ago) link

oh no you yidden

carpy deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 23:49 (twelve years ago) link

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/10/israel-moves-to-ban-use-of-the-word-nazi-and-symbols-of-the-third-reich/#more-152813

Israeli traffic cops occasionally complain they’re called Nazis by the motorists they pull over.

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link

Two weeks after ultra-Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem wore yellow stars and striped prison uniforms, invoking Nazi Germany to protest what they called their persecution by secular Israelis

Honestly, I only skimmed the article after reading this.

beachville, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

I find it o_O that they're more offended by ladies in immodest dress than by yellow stars and prison stripes.

Do you know what the secret of comity is? (Michael White), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

I mean, I had never thought about intra-Jewish religious persecution within Israel and it's especially weird to me that the orthodox Jews would feel persecuted by the secular Jews. But I'm fairly ignorant on the whole country and probably need to go find something that would explain this tension in a stronger context.

beachville, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

It's not entirely unlike American evangelical christians believing that there's a war on christmas.

Mordy, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:16 (twelve years ago) link

^^^

locally sourced stabbage (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:16 (twelve years ago) link

idk i think the $$$ angle of the whole thing is a little different

goole, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.tabletmag.com/news-and-politics/87611/state-of-her-own/

mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:45 (twelve years ago) link

Just heard a story by way, once removed, of Alex Kotlowitz, journalist and co-director of "The Interrupters." I guess he had a screening for Kanye West, who was very moved and wanted to impart his wisdom to some of the underprivileged documented by the film. Namely, 1) learn to read 2) learn math and 3) learn how to get "Jew money."

Grain of salt, I suppose. But if accurate, at least Kanye's anti-semitism is complementary!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

oy

Mordy, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.tabletmag.com/arts-and-culture/books/88397/framed-2/

Mordy, Thursday, 19 January 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link

Complementary anti-semitism?

After all, I grew up masturbating at my parents' house (Michael White), Thursday, 19 January 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

what do you mean?

Mordy, Thursday, 19 January 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

Complimetary/complementary

After all, I grew up masturbating at my parents' house (Michael White), Thursday, 19 January 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

i have mixed opinions on mearsheimer (and not read "the israel lobby") but that article is kind of a mess, and it refers approvingly to this one, which is even worse

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Thursday, 19 January 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

I remember listening to 'Talk of the Nation' or something on the subject of that book and having to turn the radio off.

After all, I grew up masturbating at my parents' house (Michael White), Thursday, 19 January 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link

Putting side the question of whether it is anti-Semitism or not, I think that Joe Klein and Thomas Friedman's comments (in Time and the NYT respectively) indicate that being critical of Israel in America is safe and mainstream. I really never want to hear again about how brave someone is for criticizing the settlements or whatever (unless it is accompanied by the first comment in history to apply that adjective to Friedman).

Mordy, Thursday, 19 January 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

xpost In the scheme of anti-Semitism, depicting all Jews as successful/rich/Hollywood/lawyers/whatever is a better broad brush bad prejudice than saying, say, claiming that Jews run the world and eat babies. And yes, I meant complementary, not complimetary or whatever.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 January 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

(Still bad, of course)

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 January 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

i think the whole "rich hollywood jews" thing ties in w/ and stems from the whole "jews run the world" thing a bit

omar little, Thursday, 19 January 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link


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