Thoughts:
1) The video they had done made me think of Tomb Raider 3.
2) The couple were a bit weird
3) They were fucking minted. This aroused my ire. Anyone who sepdns 34K on a bleeding cooker is a waste of genetic material.
4) The house was bllody marvellous. Might be a clear case of Marxist righteous indignation being a cover for simple envy. The library was very nice, with door disguised as bookcase.
5) The staircase was nice. As was the glass walkway (in the video, replaces industrial mesh grid floor.
6) The bath was far too small for both of them to fit in.
7) It was the kind of house Blofeld would have.
8) The best bit though was the planning dispute. They interviewed the people from (I think) the London Symphony Orchestra who objected to the brick used in the party wall. Because it wasn't their actual property, they could act in their own minds as not personally interested and so more 'rational'. INstead, shorn of any reason to compromise (because you actually have to live there and be neighbourly ultimately) they really got to the heart of the bourgeois nastiness that is contentious small home improvement planning issues. Magnificent to see the true nasty spitefulness come out. More!
For more, including video, visit the Grand Designs website.
― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 22 January 2004 10:37 (9 years ago) Permalink
But yeah, phenomenal house.
― Sam (chirombo), Thursday, 22 January 2004 11:00 (9 years ago) Permalink
The best bit of it I saw was the update on the planning application, that approval for the bricks in the party wall had been refused, and that they were appealing. Fantastic!
― Vicky (Vicky), Thursday, 22 January 2004 11:00 (9 years ago) Permalink
Thirty Four THOUSAND POUNDS on a COOKER! THAT DIDN'T EVEN WORK!
― Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 22 January 2004 11:19 (9 years ago) Permalink
They were odd weren't they? I thought they were both lu-las but I warmed to her; she smiled. He was a bit of a cold fish, but I started to like him when he got all philistine about commissioning art.
They'd been looking for a dream house for 6 years; I wondered at some did they stop loving each other (or will htye?) and instead they love the idea of being people with a grebt house. He provided the cash, she got the plans drawn up and supervised that. I started to wonder what the catacylsmic consequencdes would be if either had a drunken shag vcausing the rellie to fall apart.
― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 22 January 2004 11:21 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Alfie (Alfie), Thursday, 22 January 2004 11:22 (9 years ago) Permalink
The house itself was amazing, but they really didn't come over well. How many of the couples/families involved in grand designs do though?
― Vicky (Vicky), Thursday, 22 January 2004 11:36 (9 years ago) Permalink
The couple who rennovated the derelict water pumping station in Chesterfield did.
― Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Thursday, 22 January 2004 11:44 (9 years ago) Permalink
― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 22 January 2004 11:46 (9 years ago) Permalink
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 22 January 2004 11:47 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Thursday, 22 January 2004 11:50 (9 years ago) Permalink
― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 22 January 2004 11:54 (9 years ago) Permalink
― sgs (sgs), Thursday, 22 January 2004 12:01 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 22 January 2004 12:03 (9 years ago) Permalink
The one I'm talking about was in the last series, I think.
― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 22 January 2004 12:03 (9 years ago) Permalink
― sgs (sgs), Thursday, 22 January 2004 12:06 (9 years ago) Permalink
Ah, I bet it wasn't as good as the one where we got to laugh at Damien Hirst for spending tens of thousands of pounds on A SHED. That was the best one ever. Better than the two goths with the water tank. (There have been two water pumping station couples.)
Maybe it's schadenfreunde (sp?) but I prefer the ones where everything goes wrong and the smug couples who you want to punch in the face at the beginning of the programme are left debt-ridden and on the verge of divorce at the end.
― the river fleet, Thursday, 22 January 2004 14:39 (9 years ago) Permalink
and then they go and put 3 large goldfish in a small spherical bowl. grrr.
that said, the bricks they used for the extra wall did look like a better match for the rest of the wall than the ones that were specified. other bits of the courtyard used the other bricks but that wall was already pink. they just needed a couple of months to get a bit grubbier and less new looking.
andy
― koogs (koogs), Thursday, 22 January 2004 21:13 (9 years ago) Permalink
and would you find 6 english builders as efficient as those germans?
― koogs (koogs), Friday, 30 January 2004 12:27 (9 years ago) Permalink
― suzy (suzy), Friday, 30 January 2004 12:31 (9 years ago) Permalink
― smee (smee), Friday, 30 January 2004 13:58 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Vicky (Vicky), Monday, 2 February 2004 10:46 (9 years ago) Permalink
That house was rather nice though.
― chris (chris), Monday, 2 February 2004 10:52 (9 years ago) Permalink
― suzy (suzy), Monday, 2 February 2004 10:53 (9 years ago) Permalink
― caitlin (caitlin), Monday, 2 February 2004 11:36 (9 years ago) Permalink
Couldn't stand the place with the £34K cooker though. The whole building was like a very impersonal, immaculately finished, public space - with glass walkways and indoor courtyards. It felt like a Terence Conran restaurant or a posh hotel to me. If I worked in the city, that would be the last place on earth I'd want to come home to.
― bert (bert), Monday, 2 February 2004 22:33 (9 years ago) Permalink
cunts!
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:37 (8 years ago) Permalink
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:48 (8 years ago) Permalink
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 20:03 (8 years ago) Permalink
'revised repeat', means they don't have to mark it as a repeat in the listings. didn't watch it last night but a part of me hopes it has fallen down since the last visit.
the finnish timber kit house looked fun. like lego only bigger. (and only £65k for the entire kit)
― koogs (koogs), Thursday, 12 May 2005 07:27 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 12 May 2005 07:33 (8 years ago) Permalink
― jel, Thursday, 12 May 2005 07:34 (8 years ago) Permalink
> terribley energy inefficient.
rich people, i have decided, don't care. if they can afford the bills it's ok for them to use as much as they like, they feel. for all of us who bother to recycle there's someone like my boss who drives a hummer.
― koogs (koogs), Thursday, 12 May 2005 09:05 (8 years ago) Permalink
The other insufferable couple were the ones (well, come to think of it, they were all insufferable) who decided to build a New England clapboard (or whatever) house in Sussex and the bloke built his own fireplce and it looked like a bloody great Babapapa in the corner.
The only ones who weren't entirely insufferable were that Pet Shop Boys bloke and his boyfriend and they were only bearable because they were subjected to homophobia (or so they thought, sadly we didn't get to see any of it).
I would like just a little wooden house.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 12 May 2005 09:47 (8 years ago) Permalink
The folks who renovated the 19th C. house in Leith were nice.
― robster (robster), Thursday, 12 May 2005 09:53 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 12 May 2005 09:56 (8 years ago) Permalink
I also remember a guy who made a house out of straw in France? He was a nice down to earth chap, and his house ended up looking grebt.
― Rumpie, Thursday, 12 May 2005 10:05 (8 years ago) Permalink
AND a dumb waiter - not only that but a HEATED dumb waiter!!!
― Huey (Huey), Thursday, 12 May 2005 10:36 (8 years ago) Permalink
― robster (robster), Thursday, 12 May 2005 10:40 (8 years ago) Permalink
Next week, a foolish man builds his house upon the sands.
I missed the ones with nice people, I was in a state of seethe.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 12 May 2005 10:43 (8 years ago) Permalink
― RickyT (RickyT), Thursday, 12 May 2005 10:48 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 12 May 2005 10:50 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Rumpy Pumpkin, Thursday, 12 May 2005 11:00 (8 years ago) Permalink
― RickyT (RickyT), Thursday, 12 May 2005 11:12 (8 years ago) Permalink
― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 12 May 2005 11:43 (8 years ago) Permalink
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 12 May 2005 12:10 (8 years ago) Permalink
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 12 May 2005 12:22 (8 years ago) Permalink
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― Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:27 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:30 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Kev, Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:33 (7 years ago) Permalink
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:40 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:49 (7 years ago) Permalink
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:51 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Rumpie, Thursday, 20 October 2005 13:41 (7 years ago) Permalink
― koogs (koogs), Friday, 7 April 2006 09:50 (7 years ago) Permalink
Did Kevin look supercilliously at them, and point this out?
― Bernard Sumner's Girlfriend (kate), Friday, 7 April 2006 09:52 (7 years ago) Permalink
they also seemed to have dumbed the program down a lot. in the first series they'd've explaned how the laser guided plumbline thing worked. see also: scrapheap challenge.
― koogs (koogs), Friday, 7 April 2006 10:03 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Bernard Sumner's Girlfriend (kate), Friday, 7 April 2006 10:07 (7 years ago) Permalink
i dont get it
― ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 7 April 2006 10:19 (7 years ago) Permalink
they also had a space age staircase of glass planks poking out of the wall (cantilevered) and it looked like they were going to have no banister for a while. in the end they had a glass wall boxing the stairs in in place of a banister and (hopefully) stopping young children from falling off the sides and caving their heads in.
the aquarium was impressive.
and the laser plumbline was more of a laser measuring thing complete with it's own tripod, for locating walls and beams and stuff to within a 3mm tolerance (which sounded low but which is quite high for this kind of stuff)
― koogs (koogs), Friday, 7 April 2006 10:45 (7 years ago) Permalink
― ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 7 April 2006 10:50 (7 years ago) Permalink
The staircase without a ballustrade I find more worrying, though. I'm an adult, and I'd have THE FEAR walking up one.
― Bernard's Summer Girlfriend (kate), Friday, 7 April 2006 10:55 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Friday, 7 April 2006 11:51 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Tim (Tim), Saturday, 8 April 2006 08:52 (7 years ago) Permalink
― jaussie (jaussie), Monday, 11 September 2006 07:50 (6 years ago) Permalink
saw the second of the Castleford regeneration programs last night (missed the first). was depressing. people not listening to people, vandalism, bribery, ugly monoliths...
http://www.channel4.com/4homes/on-tv/kevin-s-big-town-plan/?intcmp=docpage_box3
― koogs, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 17:22 (4 years ago) Permalink
this motherfucker tonight made my blood boil, i fervently hope he's penniless, miserable alone and itchy tonight wherever the fuck he is
― Randy Carol (darraghmac), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 23:24 (9 months ago) Permalink
just awful. kevin mcloud is a better man than me.
― jed_, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 23:26 (9 months ago) Permalink
awful awful awful, right down to the martyred siege mentality so prevalent amongst the most shining examples of celtic tiger idiocy. I couldn't even enjoy the inevitable, seething as i was in a mental red mist of 'I'M PAYING FOR THIS YOU PRICK I'M PAYING FOR THIS YOU PRICK' i may write to the producers demanding a less sympathetic summation from a finnish economist
― Randy Carol (darraghmac), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 23:36 (9 months ago) Permalink
the irish guy was a bit ridic - basically eschewing plans and drawings in favour of blarney.
i did like the plywood box house, specifically the way they had a laser cutter on site and could tweak things as required (fortunately given that they'd overlooked stuff. lol, fine art students...)
his sunday night show is a bit of fluff though, the kind of thing dick strawbridge would present...
― koogs, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 14:42 (8 months ago) Permalink
otm the plywood was neat
― Randy Carol (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 23:32 (8 months ago) Permalink
sunday night show is increasingly icky. dogshit and deer brains tonight.
― koogs, Sunday, 7 October 2012 21:16 (8 months ago) Permalink
horrible woman
― koogs, Thursday, 11 October 2012 18:59 (8 months ago) Permalink
dreadful! And the place looked like an orgy of mobile homes.
― Randy Carol (darraghmac), Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:01 (8 months ago) Permalink
a must-see huh?
― Always try to avoid setting up future opportunities for kicking yourself (ledge), Friday, 12 October 2012 08:15 (8 months ago) Permalink
I kind of applaud them for sticking to their contemporary guns int eh face of all the old white privilege "though shalt not enter the 20th century" bullshit, but at the same time I wish they'd just built something a litte more subtle: so many of the contemporary / modernist boxes they build on GD are so bloody large that they don't ever seem clever or imbued with personality. I'm always far more impressed by the ones they build on tiny, awkward plots - and whilst this was a relatively awkward plot, they still stuck a 3-storey mobile-home-orgy (great description!) on it.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 12 October 2012 08:36 (8 months ago) Permalink
what got me is how the neighbours hated the idea of anything new but seemed to be ok with the rotting carcass that was there before. and the new one seemed to overhang the river less - better for the neighbours.
am guessing the feelings around that neck of the woods are running a bit higher after the program has aired...
also, lol at ex-husband demolishing the old house and then moving away
― koogs, Friday, 12 October 2012 08:41 (8 months ago) Permalink
How have I never posted on this thread before? I love GD. We had a fridge magnet of Kevin for about 4 years ffs. I own one of his books.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 12 October 2012 08:52 (8 months ago) Permalink
i agree, SM, it's not that the riverfront didn't need relief from the stuffy archetype, i just didn't think the couple did it with any grace nor flair. The build wouldn't have fitted in anywhere, really.
Think that kevin has been cheerleading increasingly indefensible projects this series, which might make for better 'tv' but hasn't improved the show imo
It was an interesting build, but only for the difficulty of the plot and the little elements of teutonic perfection in the execution of eg fired clay exterior (not enough of this vs 'let's interview another dreadful entitled rich person')
― Randy Carol (darraghmac), Friday, 12 October 2012 09:32 (8 months ago) Permalink
this programme is turning me into a marxist
― the oft-posited third fisherman (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 20:16 (8 months ago) Permalink
steady on
― a pass-agg to indier (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 20:17 (8 months ago) Permalink
i mean i'm having visions of a higher rate of tax of i dunno 90%
― the oft-posited third fisherman (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 20:17 (8 months ago) Permalink
it was good enough for my parents
― a pass-agg to indier (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 20:18 (8 months ago) Permalink
spent 380k on tower, quotes on build brings it over a million
a friend let them half a mil
what do the ppl on grand designs do? we need to be told. roscommon cunt still has me clenching in rage
― the oft-posited third fisherman (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 20:19 (8 months ago) Permalink
> what do the ppl on grand designs do?
"property portfolio"
― koogs, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 20:44 (8 months ago) Permalink
hmm yeah
i mean gluck to him but really let's have a proper 'ten years on' follow up on these ppl where they live in the bahamas having given up the house to the bank with 2m arrears owed, kvetching about how the suits just 'didn't understand their vision, the brutes'
― the oft-posited third fisherman (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 20:47 (8 months ago) Permalink
last two have both been loads of money with disappointing (imo) results. yes, the view was nice in that first one, but the rooms were all smaller than average - throw a party for more than 30 people and it'll have to spread over at least 2 floors.
what's more interesting, to me, is George Clarke's Amazing Spaces on tuesdays where people are doing small things on 4 or 5 figure budgets, not 7. (that said, programme itself is a bit of a mongrel - following one project, highlighting others and doing one himself - so you end up with not much detail on anything)
― koogs, Thursday, 25 October 2012 11:45 (7 months ago) Permalink
i think that the new turn gd has taken is somewhat samey, offputting and boring- unlimited cash budgets funding 'i'm so individual' brats.
Last night's turned out better than expected, but tbh it was like clocking a game on cheat mode with all the money involved. And kevin was just trolling in overemphasising the lighting aspects throughout, coming over all amazed at the end when they solved it by putting in.....lights. Seriously, didn't see that coming?
These people are spending huge money on vanity projects, which, fair enough, has almost always been the MO of the programme. But they are all booooring, identikit superprivileged who want to get on grand designs.
― i will fondue, and i will killue (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 October 2012 12:03 (7 months ago) Permalink
and SO MANY lights. i'd hate their lecky bills.
― koogs, Thursday, 25 October 2012 12:06 (7 months ago) Permalink
obligatory 'sooo cheap to heat' ref at the end oh fuck you, you just spent three million on a marble staircase don't fuckin come over all worried about either household bills or the general wellbeing of the planet now you chancer.
― i will fondue, and i will killue (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 October 2012 12:09 (7 months ago) Permalink
Anyone who needs that much vanilla marble has emotional problems that will not be solved by any amount of vanilla marble.
Haven't seen the George 'Arthur C' Clarke programme yet but it does seem more appealing, even if he doesn't.
My favourite GDs are almost always were interesting people do creative things with small budgets. City cocks with marble staircases can fuck off.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 25 October 2012 12:19 (7 months ago) Permalink
omfg at the underground toilet conversion on the George Clarke programme.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 26 October 2012 19:05 (7 months ago) Permalink
tube trains on the roof. downside: you have to wear your coats in the winter...
― koogs, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 09:51 (7 months ago) Permalink
The dancefloor is cool, but 25 grand. Ouch.
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 21:45 (6 months ago) Permalink
fuckin cuuuuunts
― bill paxman (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 21:52 (6 months ago) Permalink
Kind of skirted over the "how are you getting on with your neighbours now" issue.
― ledge, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 22:03 (6 months ago) Permalink
Skirted around. Scooted over?
― ledge, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 22:04 (6 months ago) Permalink