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Growing Pains Cast


Main Cast


Alan Thicke - Jason Roland Seaver
Joanna Kerns - Margaret Kathrine Seaver (Maggie Seaver) (Malone)
Kirk Cameron - Michael Aaron Seaver (Mike)
Tracey Gold - Carol Ann Seaver (Carol the Brain)
Elizabeth Ward - Carol Seaver (in the episode of "Pilot Episode" #1)
Jeremy Miller - Benjamin Hubert Horatio Humphrey Seaver (Ben) (Benny)
Ashley Johnson - Christine Ellen Seaver (Chrissy)
Leonardo DiCaprio - Luke Brower (Joined in the 7th season)


Supporting Cast


Family Members
Gordon Jump - Ed Malone
Betty McGuire - Kate Malone
Jane Powell - Irma Overmier (Seaver)
Robert Rockwell - Wally Overmier
Victor DiMattia - Young Mike
Judith Barsi - Little Carol
Hunter Cope - Baby Mike
Kanin Guntzelman - Toddler Mike
Adam Teitlebaum - Baby Mike
Kristen & Kelsey Dohring - Baby Chrissy
Khrystyne Haje - Grown up Chrissy

Friends and Neighbors
Richard Marion - Silvester Stabone (Mr. Stabone)
Ruth Silveria - Mrs. Stabone
Michael Kenworthy - Kris Koosman
Michael McManus - Buddy Koosman (Mr. Koosman)
Karla Tamburrelli - Jodi Creedmore
Asher Metchik - Max Creedmore

Maggie's Friends and Colleagues
Deborah White - Susan
Ken Tigar - Mr. Sid Sidlevich
Pamela Brull - Thelma
Peter Jurasik - Doug Stanton

Mike's Friends, Colleagues, Students, and Fiancée(s)
Andrew Koening - Richard Milhaus Stabone (Boner)
K.C. Martel - Edward Cornelius Zeff (Eddie)
Chelsea Noble - Kate MacDonnell
Julie McCullough - Julie Lynn Costello
Melissa Young - Tina Louise
Carmen Filpi - Fred the beggar
Gary Grubbs - George Brower
Fred Applegate - Mr. Francis X. Tedesco
Tony Hablian - Jose Nuñez
Jarrett Lennon - Little Boner

Carol's Friends and Colleagues
Christopher Burgard - Dwight Haliburton
Kevin Wixted - Bobby Winett
Matthew Perry - Sandy Callison
Lisa Capps - Debbie
Rachel Jacobs - Shelley
Evan Arnold - Richie
Robert Benedette - Mr. Ike Scoffengerio
Shawn Modrell - Brianne Miller

Ben's Friends
Jamie Abbott - Bernard Sullivan (Stinky)
Jodi Peterson - Laura Lynn
Kenny Morrison - Vito Paducci
Jason Horst - Gary
Shavar Ross - Kenny
Michael Cudlitz - Chucksteak
Hilary Swank - Sasha Serotsky

School Teachers and Staff
Sam Anderson - Principal Willis Dewitt
Patrika Darbo - Estelle McGillicuty
Bill Kirchenbauer - Coach Graham Lubbock
Steeve Arlen - Professor Peeter Thorne

Cast Members who Played Another Part on the Show
Jason Seaver - President George Bush in the episode "Ben's Movie" #117.
Maggie Seaver - First Lady Barbara Bush in the episode "Ben's Movie" #117.
Michael Seaver - Strom Waverly III in the episode "The Young and the Homeless" #147.
Michael Seaver - Jason Jenkins in the episode "Ben's Movie" #117.
Michael Seaver - Kirk Cameron in the episode "Meet the Seavers" #139.
Ben Seaver - Jim Jenkins in the episode "Ben's Movie" #117.
Carol Seaver - Maggie Jenkins in the episode "Ben's Movie" #117.
Chrissy Seaver - Baby Jim Jenkins in the episode "Ben's Movie" #117.
Chrissy Seaver - Annie in the episode "Meet the Seavers" #139.
Laura Lynn - Bambi in the episode "Ben's Movie" #117.
Stinky Sullivan - Skunky in the episode "Ben's Movie" #117.
Michael Weaver (Seaver) - Coughing Boy in the episode "Coughing Boy" #99.


Cast members who have appeared on the show more than once as different characters


Bill Erwin - Buzz in the episodes of "The Anniversary that Never Was" #19. Earl in the episode "Dance Fever (1)" #63 and "Dance Fever (2)" #64. Chester
and Lester in the episode of "Mandingo" #80. Maurice in the episode of "Mike and Julie's Wedding" #94. Lloyd in the episode of "Weekend at Mike's" #116.
Bub in the episode "Meet the Seavers" #139. Edgar in the episode "Viva Las Vegas" #142.
David Coburn - Doug Wallach in the episode "Second Chance" #90. And David Hogue in the episodes "The Triangle" #106 and "The Return of the Triangle"
#107.
Christa Denton - Elaine Dooley in the episode "Fast Time at Dewey High" #24. And Monica Shakleford in the episodes "A Star is Born" #51 and "Broadway
Bound" #55.
Heather Langenkamp - Marie in the episodes "How the West was Won (1)" #68, and "How the West was Won (2)" #69. Amy Boutilier in the episodes of
"Let's Go Europe (1)" #127, "Let's Go Europe (2)" #128, and "Let's Go Europe (3)" #129.
Beans Morocco - Dave Sax in the episodes "Jason and the Cruisers" #23, and "Anniversary from Hell" #85. Big Al in the episodes "Carol Meets the Real
World" #95, and "Mike, Kate, and Julie" #110.
Leslie Boone - Girl in the episode "Fish Bait" #96, and Leslie in the epsiodes "Carol's Promotion" #104, and "Mike, Kate, and Julie" #110.


Special Guests


Jerry Vale - Himself in some episodes.
Brian Austin Green - One of the "Fresh Kids" in the episode "Ben's Rap Group" #134
Jennie Garth - Denise in the episode "Ben and Mike's Excellent Adventure" #105.
Brad Pitt - Jeff in the episode "Who's Zoomin' Who?" #53. And as Jonathon Keith in the episode "Feet of Clay" #84.
Hank Azaria - Steve Stevenson in the episode "New Deal (2)" #101.
Andrea Barber - Rhonda Green in the episode "Ben's Sure Thing" #123.
Alan Hale Jr. - The taxi driver in the episode "This is Your Life" #54.
Annette Funicello - Mrs. Hinkley in the episode "The Seavers vs. the Cleavers" #16.
James Callahan - Uncle Bob in the episode "Extra Lap" #22.
Earl Boen - Dr. Marlen in the episode "Standarized Test" #11.
Dick O'Neill - Chris in the episode "Birth of a Seaver" #72.
Kelly Ann Hu - Melia in the episodes "Aloha (1)" #45, "Aloha (2)" #46, and "Great Expectations" #62.
Danny Cooksey - The New Ben in the episode "This is Your Life" #54.
Johnny Dark - Wailin' Wailer in the episodes "Dance Fever (1)" #63 and "Dance Fever (2)" #64. Cousin Larry in the episode "Anniversary from hell" #85. And
Moe Green in the episode "Ben's Sure Thing" #123.
Holly Fields - Courtney Preston in the episode "Mike the Director" #115.
Tracy Wells - Marlene in the episode of "Carol's Papers" #98.
Candace Cameron (Kirk Cameron's sister) - Jenny Foster in several episodes.
Robert Cameron (Kirk Cameron's father) - Old Mike in the episode of "All the World is a Stage" #137.
Robin Thicke (Alan Thicke's son) - Ralph in the episode "Ben and Mike's Excellent Adventure" #105.
Ashley Kerns (Joanna Kerns's Daughter) - Herself in the episode "Meet the Seavers" #139. And as Crystal in the episode "Call of the Wild" #156.
Jessie Gold (Tracey Gold's sister) - Judith in the episode "Daddy Mike" #122.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:26 (10 years ago) Permalink

lyrics to the theme song, please.

dyson (dyson), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:29 (10 years ago) Permalink

Music by: Steve Dorff

Show me that smile again (Ooh show me that smile)
Don't waste another minute on your cryin'
We're nowhere near the end (We're nowhere near...)
The best is ready to begin

Ooh...
As long as we got each other
We got the world spinnin' right in our hands
Baby you and me...
We got to be...
The luckiest dreamers who never quit dreamin'

As long as we keep on givin'
We can take anything that comes our way
Baby rain or shine...
All the time...
We got each other
Sharin' the laughter and love

http://www.geocities.com/televisioncity/stage/1756/accessories/gptheme.wav

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:33 (10 years ago) Permalink

ah, good ol' Gordon Jump. staple of many an 80's sitcom.

El Santo Claus (Kingfish), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:35 (10 years ago) Permalink

i hated that show.

Chris 'Knuckle Deep' V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:35 (10 years ago) Permalink

He's dead now.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:36 (10 years ago) Permalink

Brian Austin Green - One of the "Fresh Kids" in the episode "Ben's Rap Group" #134 !!!!!!!!!

also I believe, Robin Thicke - Ralph in the episode "Ben and Mike's Excellent Adventure" #105 is popular Bedingfield-lite r&b singer Thicke.

Whos Zoomin Who????, Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:37 (10 years ago) Permalink

i totally forgot about 'silvester stabone'

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:37 (10 years ago) Permalink

more info about the spinoff with the hot daughters plz h. mann

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:38 (10 years ago) Permalink

oh yeah! I think it was called HominaX5

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:38 (10 years ago) Permalink

just the ten of us. hot daughters galore.

the angry cowboy (dick), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:39 (10 years ago) Permalink

the dad would play music on his bald spot

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:40 (10 years ago) Permalink


Maggie and Jason met 1968 and married back then. But due to their far- distant jobs (he: assistant in
Phoenix,Az.; she: Newsweek) they wanted a divorce. But they got together again and the divorce was
canceled.

Maggie was 18 when she got married -> Maggie was born around 1950.
Mike was born 1970
Carol was born 1971
Ben was born 1976 (once falsely given as 1974 ?)
Chrissy was born 1988 (but made a big 'age-jump' between season 5 and 6)
Chrissy was born at 0:03am the day after Ben's birthday and weighed 8 pounds and 4 grams
Jason's birthday is on Feb, 8.

Maggie's employers:
..
Newsweek (1969-1970)
Long Island Daily Herald (1985-1987)
Channel 19 (1987 - 1989)
Offer from the New York Clarion refused (1987)
Long Island Sentinel (writing 'consumer awareness' columns) (1992)
Media Relation Director for US-Senator Howard (starting with 1992)

Jason and Maggie graduated from Boston College.

The address of the Seavers is
15 Robin Hood Lane
Long Island, N.Y. 11101

Kate and Ed, Maggie's parents, were together for 46 years and are living in Boston.

The name of Jason's dad was Neal Seaver. He died in 1987, one year before Irma met Wally.

Thomas E. Dewey High School
named after Thomas E. Dewey (1902-71), lawyer and politician; worked successful against
organized crime in New York; New York Governor (1943-54) and presidental candidate 1944
against Franklin D. Roosevelt and 1948 against Harry Truman)
Football-Team: Dewey Hooters

Starting with 'Honest Abe', Carol is said to be off in London for four weeks for a research work at the British
Museum. Fact is, Tracey Gold had to leave Growing Pains temporarily because she was seriously ill with
anorexia. She missed five of the 7th season episodes, namely 157, 158 and 160 to 162 (Prod# 187216 to
187220).

Theme:
Lyrics: John Bettis
Music : Steve Dorff
Sung by:
B.J. Thomas
B.J. Thomas & Jennifer Warnes
B.J. Thomas & Dusty Springfield
(This version was on the Charts in 1989)
??? (a capella version)

Words:

Show me that smile again
don't waste another minute on your cryin'
We're nowhere near the end,
the best is ready to begin.

As long as we got each other,
we've got the world spinning right in our hands.

Baby, you and me, we gotta be
the luckiest dreamers who never quit dreamin'

As long as we keep on givin'
We can take anything that comes our way

Baby, rain or shine, all the time
We've got each other,
sharing the laughter and love.

Reunion: A GP reunion took place on the Alan Thicke comedy 'Hope & Gloria' in the first season (1995)
episode 'The Face with two Men' (episode #10). Kerns, Cameron and Miller appeared as themselves,
Thicke had a dual role (himself and his H&G-character Dennis). Tracey Gold did not appear in this episode,
it was said 'she's off doing a special'. The basic story of this episode: To help the declining show, Hope tries
to get the Growing Pains cast on the 'Dennis Dupree Show', despite the fact that Dennis absolutely can't
stand Alan Thicke.

The spin-off series 'Just the Ten of Us'

The two-parter 'How the West was Won' (ep.069/070) is kind of a pilot for the sitcom 'Just the Ten of Us'
which lasted for two seasons (88-90) and tells about Coach Lubbock's life in Eureka, California. He has
taken on the job as a teacher and coach at the St. Augustine's, a catholic school for boys which also his
kids (mostly daughters!) attend. The start there isn't exactly perfect: The Coach finds out about the school,
the house is devastated and then he learns that he hasn't got the job because they needed a teacher but
because his friend Duane (who he once coached to success) who's working there provided it after he talked
with Elisabeth and got hold of the Coach's situation.

The creators are Steve Marshall and Dan Guntzelman, Executive Producer, beside the creators, is also
Mike Sullivan. All three also worked as Executive Producer on Growing Pains.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:44 (10 years ago) Permalink

Y'all are scaring me, just a little.

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:46 (10 years ago) Permalink

Talk about thread titles that deliver!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:46 (10 years ago) Permalink

Britney herself was never on a episode but she does have many connections to the show. However. Her sister Jamie Lynn is a regular on the Nickelodian Channel's
"All That". One of the creators of 'All That' is a gentleman named Brian Robbins. You might not remember his name but you would remember him as Boners brother
Mitch from Episode 1.10 The Dirt Bike.
How I originally discovered this question was through researching Britney's former Choregrapher Wade Robson. I am a huge Wade Robson fan. He had a appearnce
on Kirk's sisters Candiace's show "Full House" He was the little kid with the black mullet in the episode "Come fly with me".

Another connection is from the movie Crossroads. One of Britney's co-stars was a young actor named Justin Long. Justin is now on a series called "Ed". "Ed" is
produced by a gentleman named Timothy Busfeild. Timothy co starred with Tracey Gold in her direct to video movie titled "Wanted".

Think this is it? nope not even close.

Alan Thicke's son Robin is a songwriter/producer. Robin wrote and produced a song for Christine Aguilera's debut cd. Christina co starred with Britney on "The New
Mickey Mouse Club".

Now, my children was watching "All That" a couple weeks ago and when I walked in the room the ending credits were on. Kevin Tracy's (Growing Pains Crew) was
listed on the credits. I am hoping to capture that tonight and show it with you all.

and haha I gotta do it. The last and final connection Ms. Spears has with Growing Pains (that I have found so far) is her ex boyfreind Justin Timberlake was dating
Alyssa Miliano from "Who's the boss" for awhile. Alyssa co-starred with Alan Thicke and Tracey Gold in "Dance til Dawn" and I have heard from several people
Tracey was once on "Who's the boss" as one of Sam's freinds. I have never found this episode or anything official to verify it.

So there you have it. 6 ways Britney Spears and Growing Pains are connected. Now maybe you have a better understanding of how this game is played. Isn't it
amazing how all things are connected?

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:49 (10 years ago) Permalink

ALL THINGS ARE CONNECTED

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:50 (10 years ago) Permalink

on one of the mid 80's Gallagher vids, Bill Kirchenbauer shows up to do a short set. he mugs and involves a fake plastic hand for an extended series of prop jokes.

El Santo Claus (Kingfish), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:50 (10 years ago) Permalink


# "Hangin' with Mr. Cooper" (1992)
- The first episode is filmed in the same set as _"Growing Pains" (1985)_ (qv).
In the beginning of the episode, 'Mark Curry' (qv) meets 'Alan Thicke' (qv)
in the set and they make some jokes about the _"Growing Pains" (1985)_ (qv).

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:51 (10 years ago) Permalink

I can think of a couple things I'd like to connect...

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:53 (10 years ago) Permalink

I can think of four...

El Santo Claus (Kingfish), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:55 (10 years ago) Permalink

I'm sorry, was that out loud?

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:57 (10 years ago) Permalink

I don't understand what you mean.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:58 (10 years ago) Permalink

Sug, that's probably just as well. Trust me when I tell you that you don't want to see inside my head right now.

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:58 (10 years ago) Permalink

A GP reunion took place on the Alan Thicke comedy 'Hope & Gloria'

as a child of the '90s I hate you so, so much for reminding me of this

Whos Zoomin Who?????, Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:59 (10 years ago) Permalink

"Jarrett Lennon - Little Boner" ?

BrianB (BrianB), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

I have such a hard time seeing "Sug" in print. I always want to pronounce it how it looks, which doesn't sound anywhere near as endearing as Sheug.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

Nope, I suppose it doesn't. I should work on that.

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:03 (10 years ago) Permalink

no no, it's my problem, not yours!

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:03 (10 years ago) Permalink

I'll make a .wav of it, and embed it every time I type it!

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:04 (10 years ago) Permalink

(I've had too much sugar!)

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:04 (10 years ago) Permalink

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:10 (10 years ago) Permalink

four things, of course, are

El Santo Claus (Kingfish), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:19 (10 years ago) Permalink

I thought it was some kind of sex thing that I was too naive and innocent-minded to get.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:22 (10 years ago) Permalink

...not unless you want to incorporate Milton-Bradley into your sex life.

El Santo Claus (Kingfish), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:23 (10 years ago) Permalink

His may not have been, but mine was.

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:23 (10 years ago) Permalink

but before you surmise that I'm a total pervert, it had nothing to do with Growing Pains.

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:24 (10 years ago) Permalink

grrrr-ow!

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:25 (10 years ago) Permalink

Man, that show had the best theme song ever. I wanna hear The Ratpure do a cover.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:27 (10 years ago) Permalink

Exactly.

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:27 (10 years ago) Permalink

1st Season Winter 1995

"Are We Having Fun Yet?"

Hope and Gloria strike up a tentative friendship, complicated when Gloria realizes that the man coming on to her in the laundry room of their apartment building is Hope's husband.

"No Degrees of Separation"

The presence of Dennis, a spiked cake, and Louis's amorous cousin Pete snuff out Hope's birthday plans for a quiet dinner party, her first since her separation.

"Salon, It's Been Good to Know You"

Hope's plan to get Gloria a job as hair stylist on the show becomes complicated as the temperamental Isaac first quits to move to South America, then returns unexpectedly - just after Gloria has quit her job at the salon where she's worked for nine years. It's up to Hope to convince Gloria's caustic former boss Cookie to take her back. Meanwhile, Louis stays over at Gloria's to tend ailing Sonny.


"A Fine ROM-ance"

Goaded by Dennis into finding a men man via computer, Hope drags a reluctant Gloria on a double blind date - and finds Gloria's match more to her liking.

NOTE: Guests Bryce and Satterfield are soap opera stars from, respectively, Another World and General Hospital.

"Falling in Bed Again"
Gilbert Gottfried [ Himself ]

Gloria convinces Hope not to see her ex-husband again, inspiring Hope to help another spurned wife do the same, but then Gloria herself succumbs to temptation. Meanwhile, Dennis tries to help Hope by having her produce a segment called "Sex With Your Ex," with Gloria as one of the guests.

"I Never Sang for Our Father"

An embarrassed and shy Louis secretly joins Hope's church choir, but Gloria isn't singing Hope's praises when she suspects that her friend and ex-husband are having an affair. Meanwhile, Dennis decides to have plastic surgery live on the show.

"My Mamma Done Told Me (1)"

Hope has not told her parents she is divorcing Jeffrey, but when he turns up during their visit, the truth comes out. Big time, as it happens, because Hope's mother then reveals to her that Hope's father is not her biological father.

"Who's Poppa? (2)"

Hope becomes convinced that her father is Bill Anderson, the real name of actor Adam West of Batman fame, unaware that her mother insists it was another actor. Meanwhile, Dennis's lawyer accompanies Dennis and Gloria on a date to insure against charges of sexual harassment.

"Love With an Improper Stranger"

A lonely Hope spends the night with a handsome stranger, but it's possible that she's in for more of a relationship than she bargained for - he may be her brother. Distraught Hope does the unforgivable: she forgets to enter Dennis in the local Emmy Award competition, which he is sure he will win after 23 years of being passed over.

"The Face with Two Men"

The new station manager orders Hope to arrange a Growing Pains reunion show, but there's a problem - Dennis refuses to be in the same room with his rival, Alan Thicke. Meanwhile, Scott, the little boy Gloria used to baby-sit turns up, grown up and still infatuated with her.

"Sisyphus, Prometheus and Me"
gs: Burt Reynolds [ Himself ]

Gloria learns she's pregnant and contemplates a third marriage to Louis - a decision that could be advantageous for new station manager Gwillem who persuades them to have the ceremony live on the show. But the minister slated to conduct the nuptials doesn't show and is replaced by guest Burt Reynolds, while Hope, locked in the prop room, struggles desperately to get Gloria an important message from her doctor.

"Don't Take Any Wooden Elephants"

Hope's upset when Gwillem 'asks' her to care for his pampered poodle, so she attempts to play a practical joke on him - which, of course, backfires big time when she steals one of his prized wooden elephants without realizing the nature of its contents.

"A Midsummer Night's Trim"

Gloria finds Hope's lack of faith in her the unkindest cut of all after Hope reveals she's having recurring nightmares of Gloria ruining her hair. They agree to consult a therapist and dream expert appearing on the show in hopes of identifying the source of Hope's neurotic fear. Meanwhile, Dennis insists on hosting a show-length infomercial for a male enhancement device, and Louis discusses diet with Gloria's next-door neighbor Scott. 2nd Season 1995

"Dumb & Smarter"

Hope must fight off suitors after she writes Dr. Glassman an electronic love letter on her computer and accidentally sends it to everyone on her mailing list except Dr. Glassman.

"A Star is Reborn"
Merv Griffith [ Himself ]

Hope sacrifices a long-awaited vacation when she's given the chance to produce a talk-show hosted by a quirky former child actress. But will the rising star outshine Dennis when she gets his time slot?

"How to Get an Ed in Business"
Swoosie Kurtz [ Herself ]

Dennis suspects that Ed is after his job when the computer whiz volunteers to help backstage and destroys Dennis's interview with Swoosie Kurtz. Meanwhile, Gloria calls Louis on the carpet for redoing Dennis's dressing room with rug remnants.

"The Man Upstairs"
William Ragsdale [ Danny Saterfield ]

The girls try to have a noisy new tenant evicted from the building but change their minds when they discover that he's handsome.

NOTE: Guest Ragsdale was the star of the surreal Fox sitcom Herman's Head.

"A New York Story"
Lisa Kudrow [ Phoebe Buffay ], Deryl Carroll [ Crazy Scary Man ], Joe Mantegna [ Himself ]

After Hope's divorce becomes final, the girls decide to be "two gals on the go," and go to New York City for the weekend, where they visit the Central Perk coffeehouse.

Starring Gilbert Gottfried as Himself, Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:38 (10 years ago) Permalink

WILLIAM RAGSDALE!!!

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:40 (10 years ago) Permalink

oh you know there was excitement on the set that day!

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:40 (10 years ago) Permalink

I has successfully eradicated all memory of Hope and Gloria from my mind UNTIL NOW.

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:41 (10 years ago) Permalink

i was completely unaware of this show's existence prior to this thread

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:42 (10 years ago) Permalink

You owe me a new brain!

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:42 (10 years ago) Permalink

This is the most terrifying thread I've ever read.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:43 (10 years ago) Permalink

it's an exorcism.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:44 (10 years ago) Permalink

TS: Ben vs Wesley from "Mr. Belvedere"

El Santo Claus (Kingfish), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:44 (10 years ago) Permalink

I thought I had repressed my memories of William Ragsdale and "Just the Ten of Us".

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:46 (10 years ago) Permalink

I never liked this show, but my best friend had the HUGEST crush on kirk so I'd watch it with her. I NEVER found him attractive.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:55 (10 years ago) Permalink

He's no Candace Cameron. That's for sure!

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:56 (10 years ago) Permalink

Not Full House, noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:57 (10 years ago) Permalink

Full House always leads to tears.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:58 (10 years ago) Permalink

It's true, I'm crying now.

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:58 (10 years ago) Permalink

somewhere (i think i even posted it on ILX somewhere), there's the beginings of what will someday be my claim-to-fame argument that Full House was the impetus of the teenwave of the late 90s/early 00s.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:59 (10 years ago) Permalink

Oh come off it. A quick WHOIS gave me this:

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Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:59 (10 years ago) Permalink

you frighten me sometimes.

Now look, FH defined a generation.
A generation of weak-kneed, self-centered matieralists with no regard for posterity, true, but were it not for DJ and Stephanie Tanner (not to mention
"is he or isn't he" Joey Gladstone) there would be no market for Britney Spears, Nsync, etc.
Full House was the cultural incubator for the Echo Generation (aka the after-boom), and deserves to be recognized as such. Were it not for the
extended life of this show (and those that it spawned: Family Matters, Boy Meets World, uh, uh, that one about the kid who ate the bad hamburger and
died then came back as an angel, the other one with Bronson Pinchot as magical alien who becomes best friends with the little brat from Jerry
Maguire, and eventually Dawson's Creek, Felicity, and NYPD Blue), well beyond any real DEMAND for it, surviving simply because it was better to
know exactly where John Stamos and his hairpiece were going to be than having them at large (remember his pre-FH sitcom as the rockin' rebel son of
TV's Quincy and Felix Unger, Jack Klugman...something about TWO...
And for the record, Stamos was a full-fledged member of the Beach Boys (as drummer) during their post-lawsuit against Brian Wilson REALLY
Endless Summer Kokomo-era tours.
For what it's worth John Stamos is as much a Beach "Boy" as Dennis Wilson (the only one who actually surfed, and eventually drowned--no sissy-ass
plane crashes for him), and deserves his due credit for what his pivotal role in what has happened to Rockaroll.
As he said on some TV show (possibly even early Conan) "Jason Priestly? Luke Perry? Don't talk to me about those fuckers. I had sideburns when they
was still suckin' they mamas' teats. Who's the trend-setter now, G?"
Licentious quote, sure, but he did in fact say something along those lines.
Time will prove that Full House was as emblematic of its time as, say, All in the Family or Flipper, were of theirs.

Don't fuck with Stamos.

-- Horace Mann (handsomishbo...), April 10th, 2003.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 20:01 (10 years ago) Permalink

(Ps the above was originally an email to a pal, and contains no actual information)

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 20:03 (10 years ago) Permalink

handsomeasthicke@yahoo.com

i believe we have an new ILX meme.

El Santo Claus (Kingfish), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 20:24 (10 years ago) Permalink

What are you talking about?

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 20:26 (10 years ago) Permalink

This is the worst thread ever.

Allyzay, Tuesday, 16 December 2003 20:44 (10 years ago) Permalink

But you read the whole thing, didn't you?

NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 20:45 (10 years ago) Permalink

ally's fucking nuts

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 20:45 (10 years ago) Permalink

If you call the number that I posted as Huck's, you should reach the town information center for a small town in very Northern Saskatchewan.

THAT'S COMEDY!

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 20:47 (10 years ago) Permalink

Especially since they would spell it "centre".

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 20:47 (10 years ago) Permalink

No, seriously, this is horrible. I mean you wanna make a good thread it should be about Charles in fucking Charges ok?!?! KIRK CAMERON CAN EAT MY FUC

Allyzay, Tuesday, 16 December 2003 20:49 (10 years ago) Permalink

No, if it were about Charles in Charge it would be "ironic". Who needs that?

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 20:50 (10 years ago) Permalink

Was he in Left Behind?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 20:51 (10 years ago) Permalink

Oh my god, what is he doing with his hand?

NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 20:51 (10 years ago) Permalink

willie ames' xian action movies aint got shit on kirk 'i nailed chelsea noble like jesus' hands to the cross' cameron's

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 20:52 (10 years ago) Permalink

Yes, he was. Kirk cameron was a big-time Christian fundamentalist.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 20:52 (10 years ago) Permalink

Excuse me, IS a big-time Christian Fundamentalist.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 20:53 (10 years ago) Permalink

Charles in Charles is NOT IRONIC people. Fuck you.

Allyzay, Tuesday, 16 December 2003 20:53 (10 years ago) Permalink

you're a mean drunk.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 20:53 (10 years ago) Permalink

My sister is totally dating the guy from Charles in Charge.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 20:53 (10 years ago) Permalink

Whew! For a second there, I thought Kirk was dead. Don't do that to me.

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 20:54 (10 years ago) Permalink

ding ding ding. sarah is correctorz.

El Santo Claus (Kingfish), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 20:54 (10 years ago) Permalink

Look, just accept that we're all a little older than you, and Growing Pains was our Charles In Charge. It's just a generation gap thing.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 20:55 (10 years ago) Permalink

it's ironic cuz baio's hilarious portrayal proved charles was anything but 'in charge' esp. if willie ames was around!

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 20:55 (10 years ago) Permalink

I am totally the nicest drunk ever. I'll fuck you all. HAHAHAHA. etc.

Willie Ames is totally my favorite erpnos ever.

Allyzay, Tuesday, 16 December 2003 20:56 (10 years ago) Permalink

My sister is totally dating the guy from Charles in Charge.

Uh, "the guy" = Scott Baio?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 21:02 (10 years ago) Permalink

I am totally the nicest drunk ever. I'll fuck you all. HAHAHAHA. etc.

I don't know if "nice" is necessarily the word, Ally Seaver.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 21:04 (10 years ago) Permalink

Oh, great, jaymc. Now he's totally gonna google that and find out I'm discussing him on a message board@!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 21:14 (10 years ago) Permalink

he should be grateful to be discussed at all.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 21:15 (10 years ago) Permalink

heh. does that poster make anybody else think that Kirk is auditioning for the lead role in _Constantine_?

El Santo Claus (Kingfish), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 21:16 (10 years ago) Permalink

this thread is still more fun than argueing about mod privs.

El Santo Claus (Kingfish), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 15:21 (10 years ago) Permalink

this thread is overrated.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 15:27 (10 years ago) Permalink

And yet, somehow intriguing.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 17:45 (10 years ago) Permalink

"never, never, shove jelly beans into your penis again Ben."

Chris 'Knuckle Deep' V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 17:51 (10 years ago) Permalink

I AM SO MAD AT YOU FOR THAT CHRIS V (oh who am I kidding hahahahahahaha)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 18:27 (10 years ago) Permalink

hee hee. just

El Santo Claus (Kingfish), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 18:43 (10 years ago) Permalink

oops. just imagine the "parental warning" they had to read before THAT episode.

"on Tonight's Very Special Episode, we deal with Mature Topics..."

El Santo Claus (Kingfish), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 18:44 (10 years ago) Permalink

didn't Ben Seaver once get a crotch disorder from being a paperboy? that was a confusing episode.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 18:56 (10 years ago) Permalink

i think that was one of those unaired "Growing Pains After Dark" episodes.

El Santo Claus (Kingfish), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 19:21 (10 years ago) Permalink

You're thinking of Groin Pains.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 19:29 (10 years ago) Permalink

Thank you ! Good night, Ladies & Gentleman! You've been a great audience, and please drive safely!

El Santo Claus (Kingfish), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 19:41 (10 years ago) Permalink

9 months pass...
Drunken driving charges filed against Growing Pains star Gold
VENTURA, Calif. (AP) — Prosecutors filed three felony counts Thursday against former Growing Pains star Tracey Gold in the alleged drunken driving rollover crash of her sport utility vehicle.
Tracey Gold Marshall, 35, was at the wheel of the vehicle when it flipped on a highway in Moorpark on Sept. 3, injuring her husband and two of her three children, authorities said.
The district attorney’s office filed charges of driving under the influence of alcohol causing bodily injury, driving with a blood alcohol level in excess of 0.08 causing injury and felony child endangerment, Senior Deputy District Attorney Kim Gibbons said.
The maximum sentence would be five years in prison, Gibbons said. But he also said it was common for people in such cases to receive probation or a lesser amount of jail time.
The Marshalls’ home telephone number was unlisted and the actress couldn’t be reached for comment.
Blair Berk, a lawyer who represents Marshall, declined to discuss details of the incident.
“Tracey is a wonderful mother and incredibly respected in her community. Hopefully the truth of what really occurred will be more important to people than speculation or headlines,” Berk said.
She is scheduled for arraignment Oct. 19 and plans to plead not guilty, her lawyer said.
Marshall wasn’t hurt when the vehicle flipped, but her husband, Roby Marshall, 39, suffered neck injuries. The couple’s seven-year-old son suffered a broken collarbone, and their five-year-old son was cut, said California Highway Patrol officer Steve Reid.
A four-month-old son also in the vehicle wasn’t hurt.
The vehicle veered off the highway just before midnight and rolled over on its way down an embankment, Reid said.
Marshall played Carol Seaver during the seven-year run of Growing Pains, which ended production in 1992.

Huk-L, Friday, 24 September 2004 14:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

4 years pass...

she had that string of um, lifetime movies for a while

great show. just put on the dvd :)

Surmounter, Monday, 18 May 2009 06:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

9 months pass...

Vancouver, British Columbia (CNN) -- Police are asking for public assistance in locating actor Andrew Koenig, who is best known for appearing in the 1980s sitcom "Growing Pains."

Koenig, 41, lives in Venice, California, but was visiting friends in Vancouver, police said in a statement Sunday. Friends last saw him on February 14. He was supposed to return home last Tuesday, and Vancouver police were notified Thursday that he had not arrived.

"Andrew has recently been despondent and his family and friends are concerned for his well-being," the police statement said.

Koenig was described as being 5 feet 5 inches tall and weighing 135 pounds, with brown shoulder-length hair and brown eyes, authorities said. Anyone with information on his whereabouts was asked to notify police.

Koenig appeared in 25 episodes of "Growing Pains" from 1985 to 1989, playing Richard "Boner" Stabone, according to the Internet Movie Database Web site. He also has appeared in episodes of several other TV shows.

He's Walter Koenig's son! Have you seen him?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 22 February 2010 15:35 (4 years ago) Permalink


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