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My 12 year old self wouldn't understand so much about being in love with a hottie, I don't think. Well he might but not in a very mature fashion.

Now if I showed him my new PowerBook G4, he'd forget about everything else in the whole world. I'd have to smack him to get some time of my own for e-mail, he'd be up all night playing Escape Velocity or some shit nonstop and playing with all my settings.

TOMBOT, Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:16 (twenty years ago) link

*walking through my house*

12-year-old me: You still live here?
now me: No. I moved out for 7 years then bought the house off our parents.
12-year-old me: So basically you're telling me I'm going nowhere in life.
now me: NO! We've got equity now?
12-year-old me: Is that something to do with horses?
now me: Shut up for a second. Pay attention:
1) you will lose your virginity to your best friend at 19; don't wear a condom
2) after your child is born...
12-year-old me: I'VE GOT A KID!?! FUCK THAT!!!!
now me: ...dude, chill! Anyway...
3) you will have an opportunity to buy a synthesizer for cheap; don't. it's all downhill from there.

(long pause)
12-year-old me: So tell me this - precisely what year did I become stupid and insane?

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:18 (twenty years ago) link

Hahahaha "So you mean he's NOT going to smack me in the ass with a book whenever I walk past him the way J*** B******** does? That's really lame." "Err. Probably not." "What the fuck you mean by probably?" "Well, I mean, probably not as often as J***. Here, honey, here's a cigarette." "I have my own." "Oh, yeah, I forgot."

Allyzay, Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:19 (twenty years ago) link

12 year old me REALLY HATES me. she is SHOCKED and appalled by the hedonistic life i have led, is repulsed by my hairy armpits and my queerness (shes still in denial, of course)/faghaggotry, and thinks that feminist shit is so wack. to rub salt in the wound, i am doing what 12 year old me always wanted to do: be a rock star. so go suck on that, you little twerp. at least i'm having fun, and god, aren't you SICK of the beatles by now???

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:20 (twenty years ago) link

me now: goddammit kid, read, i'm a fuckin moron up here.
me then: *sigh*
me now: no seriously, try to get into princeton or something.
me then: i think rem and tom petty are cool.
me now: *sigh*

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:20 (twenty years ago) link

tom petty! ROCK!

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:21 (twenty years ago) link

the way J*** B******** does

Jody Bethrosen?

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:22 (twenty years ago) link

i went to school with a kid named john bottomley. you didn't bang him did you?

Dean Gulberry (deangulberry), Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:22 (twenty years ago) link

Dude, 12 year old me would totally idolize current you, di. 12 year old me would possibly totally hate current me, I mean I'm kind of a huge bimbo now compared to young me. We should kind of trade 12 year olds?

xpost mitch you are a bad, bad man.

Allyzay, Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:23 (twenty years ago) link

haha i think my mom still has the size s full moon fever tshirt

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:24 (twenty years ago) link

me now: ...so then after mom and dad split--
me then: WHAT
me now: oh shit
pause
me then: no i guess i see that.
me now: yeah.

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:27 (twenty years ago) link

ally you are totally NOT a bimbo, but if you wanna trade 12 year olds, cool, cos this one is cramping my style.

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:30 (twenty years ago) link

"What the hell is all this stupid shit all over your desk?"

That's a drum machine, that's a sampler, and that's an integrated sequencer/sampler workstation. The rest of my stuff is in the closet. Those are biamplified monitors from Alesis.

"AWESOME"

...............


...............


...............


I'm going to try and go to bed, OK? Time's up.


"Shit!"

TOMBOT, Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:39 (twenty years ago) link

VERY good question, this. I'd thought of similar 'what if' situations, but more in comparison to my 16/17 year old self than my 12 year old self. My 12 year old self would be scratching its head and thinking, "Okay, long hair, hadn't expected that." It would appreciate the Def Leppard love highly, though.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:41 (twenty years ago) link

"It"??

Allyzay, Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:42 (twenty years ago) link

Sure.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:43 (twenty years ago) link

"She" wouldn't have had the same ring.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:45 (twenty years ago) link

Maybe it's cos I'm listening to Cat Power, but this thread makes me want to cry more than almost any other thread ever.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:51 (twenty years ago) link

It's a tasty combination of sad and funny. Kind of bittersweet, I guess. It has the same effect on me.

NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:55 (twenty years ago) link

12-year-old-me: So, you live in space like we planned right?
now-me: No, we were pretty optimistic on our timeframe for that kind of thing.
12-year-old-me: Crap. Well do you at least have a flying car like the Mollers in Popular Science?
now-me: Nope. I'm not the Rocketeer either.
12-year-old-me: Well, what *do* you do then?
now-me: I work on the Internet.
12-year-old-me: What the hell is that?
now-me: Not important. Listen, don't trust anyone named after a plant or an animal.

Dale the Titled (cprek), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:04 (twenty years ago) link

Bittersweer this thread is, precious.

::sigh::

Young Me: Yay! We have breasts and straight hair!
Me: We do.
Young Me: But we're still geeks, right?
Me: We are.
Young Me: Damn. At least we dress better. But what's up with the boots?
Me: You'll grow to have a healthy obsession with shoes.
Young Me: Freak.
Me: You have no subletly.
Young Me: Huh? At least give me some advice.
Me: Here, memorize The Devil's Dictionary by Ambrose Bierce.
Young Me: You don't like Bon Jovi anymore, do you?
Me: Fuck off.

Miggie (Miggie), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:11 (twenty years ago) link


my twelve-year-old-me would just make the present-me buy him porn and beer.


and i would do it.

Dean Gulberry (deangulberry), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:12 (twenty years ago) link

12yo me: so how'd it turn out?
me: easy, we've got a long way to go...
12 yo me: did they quit drinking?
me: sort of...
12 yo me: how do you sort of quit drinking?
me: you die
12 yo me: so you don't drink do you?
me: like a fish!

t, Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:16 (twenty years ago) link

I'd try to comfort my 12 year old self by saying something like "Don't worry too much about the girls and stuff - you'll eventually have an extraordinary sex life, including basically everything you fantasise about." He'd say "What, looking like that?" and I'd have no explanation...

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:31 (twenty years ago) link

Nick12; Why do we still live with mum and dad?
Nick24; I can't afford to move out yet.
Nick12; Why not?
Nick24; I only work in a library.
Nick12; Why aren't we famous yet? We're going to be famous, right? An actor or a writer or something.
Nick24; I don't know. I’m planning on writing a book when I'm 30.
Nick12; Why are we waiting?!
Nick24; Virginia Woolf said so. I don’t know. Just because I’ve got nothing to write about yet. I need more time.
Nick12; Why are we still pudgy?
Nick24; I lost it! I wasn’t pudgy at all from being, like, 13, all the way through to 21!
Nick12; Then we got pudgy again? Thanks a bunch. I see we’re still wearing glasses. Please tell me we’re not a geek. Please.
Nick24; I used to be able to out-drink almost everyone I knew. I play football! I’m a music journalist! Look at my jeans, my shoes, my hair, look how fucking cool I made us!
Nick12; A music journalist?
Nick24; Not really. Kind of. On the internet.
Nick12; I’d ask about girls but I’m afraid.
Nick24; Don’t ask about girls.
Nick12; How long have I got to wait?
Nick24; A long time.
Nick12; Are we gay?
Nick24; No, but we’re open-minded.
Nick12; What does that mean?
Nick24; You’ll find out in about 9 years.
Nick12; It still sucks being me, right? Doesn’t it?
Nick24; No.
Nick12; Did we go to Oxford?
Nick24; No.
Nick12; Why not?
Nick24; I got… distracted. And angry.
Nick12; …
Nick24; Why are you crying?
Nick12; Why aren’t you crying?!
Nick24; I can’t.
Nick12; Since fucking when?
Nick24; Since you cried all the tear-quota, you fucking wimp.
Nick12; Does it get better?
Nick24; Um… a lot of the time you don’t notice that it’s bad, or that it ever was bad, or even could be bad.
Nick12; What do you mean?
Nick24; You just get on with stuff… More people like you than you realise. Seriously. A lot more. Listen, I want you to do us a favour.
Nick12; What?
Nick24; Well… Don’t be afraid… Take risks. Don’t just do things because people expect you to. Never be scared to tell anyone how you feel, or ask them how they feel. Never let people forget that you care about them. EVER. But don’t let that care limit what you do. Go where you like, do what you like, see who you like. You don’t realise just how clever and cool and good you can be right now. People keep telling you, but you don’t listen, or don’t understand. You read books, you play football, you paint pictures, you write stories, you do whatever you want. Do it all. You can. You really fucking can. Just don’t, please don’t, spend all those evenings, mornings, nights, afternoons, sitting on your own, thinking about what might happen. Don’t waste those chances. Never ever feel guilty or embarrassed about anything, especially not all those stupid little things. Masturbate more when you’re young and less when you get older. Learn to tell people that they’re beautiful. Mean what you say, even if you don’t mean it immediately afterwards. Don’t fuck people around. Don’t fuck yourself around. Ride your bike more. Work at things a little more rather than just assuming you’ll be good enough to pass without doing any work. And try not to swear so fucking much.
Nick12; …
Nick24; Does that make sense?
Nick12; A bit. Some of it.
Nick24; Good.
Nick12; Who are we going to be, Nick?
Nick24; We’re going to be me, Nick. All the time. Every day. We’re going to be me.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:36 (twenty years ago) link

12 yo Mark: So baldness does run in the family?
Mark now: Yup. By the way, you have a mole under your hairline that'll be way visible soon.
12 yo Mark: Ick. Hang on, aren't I supposed to be the thin one?
Mark now: 6th form = doughnuts; girls = comfort eating.

Mark C (Mark C), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:47 (twenty years ago) link

girls = comfort eating.

EW. Still...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:47 (twenty years ago) link

12 year old me would be shocked and horrified that the ambition and soul and drive and brightness that was beginning to be sucked out of her had totally gone by the age of thirty and that she'd done bugger all to stop it, though I would remind her she didn't have much choice in the matter. I'd tell her to believe in herself more, but I doubt she'd manage it. She would also be shocked and horrified to find that she had married a balding computer lecturer from Paisley rather than John Taylor from Duran Duran.

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:53 (twenty years ago) link

Even to say 'Nick S wins' sound glib and soundbitey, but really, I don't have anything else to say. Wow.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:58 (twenty years ago) link

the ambition and soul and drive and brightness that was beginning to be sucked out of her

I think that happened to me ~12, more or less. Was it puberty that sucked the marrow from my life? /misquote Dunno.

Paisley sounds exotic from yonder side of the Atlantic...as does marriage, frankly

mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:04 (twenty years ago) link

(PS Nick are you actually Andrew WK?)

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:07 (twenty years ago) link

Andrew WK? wtf? I don't think so?

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:08 (twenty years ago) link

Besides, doubt Nick is such a lad-boy, though that's nowt but good.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:13 (twenty years ago) link

Paisley sounds exotic from yonder side of the Atlantic

This really deserves a place on the posts that make you laugh out loud thread. Paisley is, well, shit. And not in the slightest bit exotic.
http://freespace.virgin.net/andy.preece/cycling/cycleroutes/paisley.jpg

I don't think 12 year old me would be that surprised that her 30 year old counterpart was married. I think 16-26 year old me would have been more surprised. I still retained some of my youthful optimism at the age of 12 and was a bit young to realise I wasn't going to be the kind of girl that guys would fall in love with.

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:15 (twenty years ago) link

AHHHH! THEY'RE DRIVING ON THE LEFT!

mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:16 (twenty years ago) link

AWK's not a lad boy, he's a giant teddy bear. He can go from meeting you to hugging you like that! (snaps fingers) You're thinking "he looks a bit familiar", and bam! And then you realise that you're sweaty and he isn't any more...

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:17 (twenty years ago) link

Check out that fucking cycle-path, dudes! It's got bollards!

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:17 (twenty years ago) link

How does that make me him, Andrew?

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:18 (twenty years ago) link

Not that I'm complaing, just intrigued!

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:18 (twenty years ago) link

Check yr AIM.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:19 (twenty years ago) link

okay it's really late but that picture as representative of distilled shitness actually did make me laugh out loud.

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:23 (twenty years ago) link

In short(!)

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:24 (twenty years ago) link

That was the first image I got on Google under "Paisley" that wasn't Paisley pattern or the Rev. Ian. I think someone may want to have a word with Renfrewshire Tourist Board.

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:24 (twenty years ago) link

Well, Prince lives in Paisley (Park). Not that anyone should marry him.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:26 (twenty years ago) link

(In a much less dynamic way, maybe I am Andrew WK! Thanks again, Andrew [Farrell, not WK {though thanks to him, too!}]).

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:37 (twenty years ago) link

Twelve year old me we promptly go home and kill herself, realizing that, no, she's never going to be a supermodel or marry a millionaire. Twelve year old me was a very melodramatic kid.

mouse, Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:50 (twenty years ago) link

whoa, see, i Can create a thread that doesn't piss off or offend anyone, rock on, me!and noone's bashing each other yet, sweet. see, i Can be a pleasant guy on occasion :)although some of the messages on here are a little depressing, some of yall don't give yourselfs enough credit, i'm sure all of ya are bodacious people, and yeah, i'm 24 and still say bodacious, and will still admit that def leppard and the 80's music and movie scene are way bitchin. later

ryan t, Friday, 31 October 2003 00:02 (twenty years ago) link

Me now: You're cool as shit and don't let for a second the parade of assholes you are about to endure for 6 years let you think otherwise.
Me then: Shut up, I'm playing Zelda. Wait, can you buy me fireworks?

bnw (bnw), Friday, 31 October 2003 00:14 (twenty years ago) link

advice i would give 12 year old me: stop listening to your mother, RIGHT NOW.

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Friday, 31 October 2003 00:16 (twenty years ago) link

Di, I'm still arguing with my 29 yr old self to quit doing that!

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Friday, 31 October 2003 00:22 (twenty years ago) link

12: So... we don't lose any weight then.
21: No, but we lose hair. In massive clumps. People who shower in the same house as you are going to want to kill you.
12: Any other advice?
21: Don't give your heart to a football team or women whose name ends in the letter "y". No good will come of either. Oh, and Ayrton Senna's about to die.
12: (starts crying)

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 2 November 2003 02:42 (twenty years ago) link

Then: You have a gut and thinning hair! you wear glasses & are taller than me. And what is that shirt you're wearing? "Joy Division"? Who the hell are they?

Now: shut up, we have some important things to go thru. Right then. there's this band that comes out of England. They're called My Bloody Valentine.

then: ew. sounds like heavy metal.

Now: far from it. they're about to come out with a very important album called "Isn't Anything?". Start mowing the lawn and saving your money. you know that record store that your friends talk about? start getting mom to take you there, on a weekly basis. your first purchase will be a record call "Let it Be" by this band that's about to break up. Your next purchase will be a record that's much faster out of California, called "Milo Goes to College". Start making friends with your friends' older brothers, and see if they'll take you with them to rock shows in Ann Arbor and Detroit.

Then: why do i care about music so much?

Now: when you're a freshman in college, you'll find out. It'll be your first roommate. But don't worry--you'll move out after 4 months. Oh yeah, and you know that 120 minutes show on MTV on sunday night? start taping it. Every episode. Never let your mom make you ditch the tapes. And don't let her throw away or sell your star wars figures or Transformers. Also, see this? This is an electric guitar.

Then: neat! but i play piano now. I don't like it much.

Now: Go out and buy records by Little Richard & Professor Longhair & the New York Dolls. You will have about 3 more piano teachers in the next 4 years. have them teach you those songs. Now this is how you play an A chord. And here, is a D chord and an E Chord.

Then: Okay

Now: Now this is a record by a band called "The Ramones". This is very important.

Then: will I ever go out with that one girl?

Now: No. you will with another for a short while, and then nobody for about the next 7-8 years.

THen: ...oh. that really sucks. you're depressing me.

Now: yeah. get used to that feeling, as you'll have to deal with it for the next 9 years. start going to a shrink now, and not the one that you saw when you were 9. he's friendly, but he's no good. Also, high school will be alternately good & boring & frustrating for you. Don't hang out with that drummer guy so much, but talk to some of his friends, the ones that don't drink or smoke, and they might come in handy. And stop playing computer games so much. Hang out with people, and run and don't shun sports. you're better at them than you think.

Then: but i don't want to conform...

Now: Shut up. It doesn't work like that. Also, when you're a freshman in college, do NOT move back home. Get a summer job as a computer help guy and do whatever you can to stay in ann arbor. Start going to all those rock shows that you see flyers for, and start listening to the campus radio station. Learn about studying your books int he library instead of in your dorm room, and join the Co-op program. Take any internship or co-op that gets offered to you.

then: this is a lot.

Now: oh yeah. You know that wanking thing you've just discovered? Get used to it. You're going to be doing a lot of it for the next 15 years.

Then: damn.

Now: don't worry. it'll turn out alright in the end. Maybe.

Then: will they ever make a new Star Wars movie?

Now: Don't ask.

Kingfish (Kingfish), Sunday, 2 November 2003 03:04 (twenty years ago) link

Now: Kid, you'll turn out OK. They're will be some rough going at times, but you'll be OK. Just do this one thing.
Then: And that is?
Now: You'll get a chance to get an interest free student loan. Take it and invest it in Microsoft.
Then: That stupid company that makes the shitty BASIC package for CP/M?
Now: Yes. One side-effect of stupidity is that they won't ever stop. Anyway, just take the money, put it in Microsoft and forget about it for 8 years. It'll compound and you'll have money left over to pay back the loan many many many times over.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Sunday, 2 November 2003 04:52 (twenty years ago) link

Then: So...have you gotten laid yet?
Now: Nope.
Then: AWW, MAAAAAN!!!

Franco Begbie (Francis Watlington), Sunday, 2 November 2003 05:04 (twenty years ago) link

I think I'd have more to learn from me at 12 years old than vice versa.

Dan I., Sunday, 2 November 2003 05:12 (twenty years ago) link

29: oh, and you can use your hand for masturbation, you know.
12: ...

Mark C (Mark C), Sunday, 2 November 2003 15:23 (twenty years ago) link

12: I have red hair?
28: This week. Don't be afraid to dye it, it's fun.
12: Everyone will freak out, though!
28: Exactly. As you can see, the breasts eventually happen too, so don't worry about it too much, and just be comfortable in your body. You've got a metabolism most people would kill for anyway.
12: Why am I dating D*****?
28: He's nice enough, and you're both pretty insecure. You'll muster up the self-confidence to break up with him soon. Don't worry about boys, for real. Most of them here won't understand you, but that's a failing on their part and not yours. Hold out for something good. Shit, I know I'm sounding like a school counselor, but it's true. Also you're going to meet an amazing guy precisely when you're not looking for one at all. And I mean really not looking, but I'm not going to say anything about that because you're going to have to figure that out for yourself.
12: Am I poor?
28: No, you do just fine. I didn't realize this until just a few years ago, but you're honestly smart enough to make good choices nearly all the time.
12: You sound like the D.A.R.E. teacher again.
28: They're mostly full of shit, but seriously, believe in your own abilities because you do some pretty amazing things when you're older.
12: So am I a scientist? or a writer?
28: Weirdly enough, neither. Or maybe both. You have a great job, you really enjoy it, and you're good at it. I shouldn't even be telling you this, but I'm getting ready to leave the job.
12: NO! Don't do that, you'll starve!
28: What did I just say about believing in yourself?
12: Why would you leave a job ever?
28: Jesus, I shouldn't have even gotten into this. This won't make you happy either, but I'm doing it partly because of that great guy.
12: NO! What happened to feminism?
28: Hey, don't freak out! It's a good move for everyone. It's time for me to make a change, and it happens to be a good time for both of us to make a change. Jesus, the point is not to worry about the future. You're just going to stress yourself out, and you don't need to do that because you're really smart and capable.
12: *begins crying*
28: *sighs* You're going to cry at all your job reviews, too, but your boss is really cool with it.
12: *continues crying*
28: You're going to continue to be really depressed through all of high school and part of college; it's going to be really awful sometimes. Stay away from guns and knives.
12: *sniffles* I get into college?
28: YES! You'll actually get a great scholarship and be spoiled for choice. This is what I'm talking about. Look at you! You know you're smart, but you still think you won't get into college? You have so much going for you; you're not going to screw it up.
12: *sobs uncontrollably*
28: Oh, come here, give me a hug. I know it's pretty overwhelming. Just try not to worry.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 2 November 2003 15:56 (twenty years ago) link

RJG now: my bloody valentine were from ireland.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 2 November 2003 17:03 (twenty years ago) link

Me: I can't tell you anything! Go away!!
12 Me: Why?
Me: If I do, everything will be different, it's too dangerous...
12 Me: What do you mean?
Me: Like if I tell you not to bother taking double science for GCSE, and then you take my advice, the whole nature of time and space could be destroyed, maybe the Berlin Wall will never fall, and we'll blow ourselves up with nukes. Maybe Spurs will win the league. Maybe in high school, you'll use your cricket bat to play cricket instead of as a substitute guitar. Myabe you'll actually talk to girls you develop crushes on, instead of sitting around listening to Skid Row and writing awful lyrics about being an outcast...I mean, anything I tell you could have a million earth shattering consequences.
12 Me: okay, see ya.

12 Me goes back in time. Reality ends.

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 2 November 2003 17:12 (twenty years ago) link

jel otm

amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 2 November 2003 17:15 (twenty years ago) link

I can see the world being changed enough for the Berlin Wall to stay up, but Spurs win the league?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 2 November 2003 18:42 (twenty years ago) link

12yoJ: My hair grew out.
29yoJ: Of course it did. That's one thing I can tell you about your future, you won't have any more haircut traumas. Nothing severe anyway.
12yoJ: Cool! What about the glasses? Did my vision get better?
29yoJ: No. But there's thinner lenses now.
12yoJ: Ok, so what's up with my life as a grown-up? I mean, you're OLD. So, what did you get your doctorate in? Are you in love, married, what?
29yoJ: Um. None of the above, except for maybe the grown-up part. I don't even know how to tell you how plans changed and life changed. But I can give you bits of advice. What's funny is that part of the advice would be to take more risks. Don't be afraid to break rules and let loose more. Ignore all that bullshit self-doubt. And another part of the advice would be to take good care of yourself. When you have a gut feeling about something, pay attention, even if it's scary and something you'd rather ignore. That probably includes the feeling about Key West.
12yoJ: That makes no sense.
29yoJ: It will in retrospect. Next time you see Grandpa may be the last. Nobody has told you that he's dying. Hug him hard and tell him you love him, because you'll probably miss him for the rest of your life.
12yoJ: *sob*. Okay.
29yoJ: Try to be more outgoing, more confident. Stand up for yourself when people are assholes to you. Kick CJK in the balls when he tries things on you in art class. Maybe kick him in the balls anyway. In school, spend more time studying and less time worrying about whether you're stupid. Don't drop Seminar. Apply to Northwestern. Please don't berate yourself so much. Try to stop feeling like you have to prove yourself, and try to tone down the perfectionism. Recognize that you're going to fuck up, and that doesn't mean you're a failure. Don't worry so much about things socially--the people who are really important are there for you. Even when you don't realize it. Appreciate them. They're amazing people.
12yoJ: Uh, whatever. I'm not worried about my friends.
29yoJ: You'll move in a year and things will be very different.
12yoJ: Shit. What about boys?
29yoJ: There'll be boys. It would help if you weren't so shy with them. You'll date, but it's generally frustrating. There's one guy that you'll meet, though, who will teach your cynical self that love is possible.
12yoJ: But I don't end up with that guy?
29yoJ: Nope.
12yoJ: That sucks. So what should I think of the future and all of that?
29yoJ: I still haven't figured that one out for myself at 29. You'll find out what happens soon enough. Enjoy being 12 for me. And give that puppy of yours a hug, I miss him.

JuliaA (j_bdules), Sunday, 2 November 2003 23:13 (twenty years ago) link

This thread makes me want to go round dispensing hugs. And makes me wish I'd worded mine better, but I had a go already and everyone else wins.

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 2 November 2003 23:28 (twenty years ago) link

this thread is like ile's footprints

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 3 November 2003 06:18 (twenty years ago) link

(that's saying something!)

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 3 November 2003 06:18 (twenty years ago) link

but, when there was only one set in the sand, were we carrying ourselves?

Kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 3 November 2003 06:21 (twenty years ago) link

You guys sure did cry a lot when you were 12.

NA (Nick A.), Monday, 3 November 2003 13:53 (twenty years ago) link

29: One day you will accidentally drink your urine. But do NOT tell anyone called Matt DC this or they will mock you on a computer.

Mark C (Mark C), Monday, 3 November 2003 14:08 (twenty years ago) link


Hello. Does this go on for long?
No, you actually start college next year. Trinity and all.
That'll be nice.
Yeah, sort of. You know how you don't have to try real hard at this stuff? That'll change.
I'm certain I'll do okay.
Yeah, you are, aren't you? Come here so I can look at you.
What are you looking for?
Certainty. I'm running low these days.
What? How? It's not difficult to be certain, you see the right thing and you do it. It's central to what we are!
Not so much these days.
What do you have if you're not certain?
Something else, something better.
What?
... I don't know, I can't really explain.
You can't explain because it doesn't exist! You're making it up to pretend that it's good because it's all that you've got!
No!

..Maybe.
Anything else?
Dad gets sick in four years time. He gets better and then after another five years he doesn't.
So I should be nice to him for that time?
No, you'll be giving him a lot of grief, the usual teenage stuff. You have plenty of time to make things right before the end.
So why are you telling me this, then?
You pissed me off.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 13 November 2003 02:35 (twenty years ago) link

four months pass...
http://www.whimsyload.com/artoday.images/mirror.jpg

Dada, Tuesday, 6 April 2004 20:41 (twenty years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Best thread ever.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:43 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
Thanx

Mitch Thompson, Saturday, 27 August 2005 03:53 (eighteen years ago) link

27yo me: DON'T GO TO UNIVERSITY WHEN THEY TRY TO FORCE YOU
12yo me: it's ok i won't let them.
27yo me: YES YOU WILL. YOU WILL CAVE IN. DON'T LISTEN TO THEM! THEY ARE OFTEN WRONG ABOUT THIS SHIT!
12yo me: oh, ok. thanks. who do i know who will give me good advice about this stuff then?
27yo me: ...
12yo me: oh, great.
27yo me: look, chill. just do what the fuck you want. don't start thinking you can't just 'cause people tell you you can't. ok? your horizons can be bigger.
12yo me: ok. shit, what's that you're listening to? i like it. can i tape the cd off you?
27yo me: yes. and this one, and this one, and this one. go and find some weird shit to listen to. you'll like it. start by going into spiller's and asking them for a new record called 'goo'.
12yo me: uh... ok. ...um, look, i'm not still living here, am i?
27yo me: no! christ, no. you escape. it's fine. you're in london. it's wicked. you get a shitload of great friends and you go to lots of gigs and stuff. hey, you work in music!
12yo me: cool! wait, i'm not a novelist?
27yo me: nah, but don't worry about it. there's time for that. 27 isn't old.
12yo me: it's fucking ancient.
27yo me: shut up. and don't stop riding your bike, idiot. oh yeah, and you will get into uwc so don't worry about that.
12yo me: i get to go to ac? brilliant!
27yo me: er, no, not ac. better!
12yo me: how can it be better?
27yo me: i'm not telling you. got to leave some surprises. also, please remember that pretty much everyone you go to school with, apart from emma c and sarah h and maybe a couple of others, are idiots. waste of oxygen. don't pay any attention. you'll totally have the last laugh on them.
12yo me: ok. i kind of know that anyway, but when there are so many more of them it's hard sometimes. hey, did that hurt?
27yo me: yeah, but only for like a second.
12yo me: i like it! wow, you're so grown up.
27yo me: bwahahaha no i'm so not. look, take that fucking thing out of your hair, it looks stupid.

emsk ( emsk), Saturday, 27 August 2005 11:25 (eighteen years ago) link

12: Gee you got fat.
25: Yeah it happens, you fucker.
12: It won't happen to me.
25: It will, the only reason you don't eat now is because you're mom's food tastes like crap.
12: I hate you.
25: You've never had sex.
12: I'm going to kill myself.
25: Good!

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 27 August 2005 13:25 (eighteen years ago) link


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