Was it ethically acceptable of me to buy Volume I of Robert A Caro's Pulitzer Prize-winning 3000-page Lyndon Baines Johnson biography, get bored by page 3, then exchange it for the Justin Timberlake

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I dunno.

Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 12:11 (10 years ago) Permalink

Fucking hell yes.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 12:12 (10 years ago) Permalink

Yes! You should have changed it for the Dannii Minogue record.

j0e (j0e), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 12:12 (10 years ago) Permalink

Yes. It's not as though you read it most of the way through, and every household should have at least one copy of Justified.

Larcole (Nicole), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 12:15 (10 years ago) Permalink

Why would someone be interested in LBJ's biography in the first place?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 12:16 (10 years ago) Permalink

every household should have at least one copy of Justified.

I wouldn't go THAT far... ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 12:25 (10 years ago) Permalink

Oh God yes!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 12:26 (10 years ago) Permalink

Hey hey, Tim-ber-lake, how many kids did you kill... never mind.

Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 12:35 (10 years ago) Permalink

You should get ahold of the LBJ tapes - I'm sure they're much more entertaining.

Incidentally, my father told me this morning that he waited on five presidents when he was a waiter in the sixties. He hated LBJ and Truman the most, he said they were "S.O.B."s. He liked JFK the best.

Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 13:09 (10 years ago) Permalink

is caro going to finish this project? he's like 99 and he hasn't even reached lbj's presidency or something

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 13:11 (10 years ago) Permalink

I am boggled by the concept that anyone would want to read 3000 pages about Lyndon Johnson.

NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 13:12 (10 years ago) Permalink

he's a way more interesting president than kennedy

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 13:14 (10 years ago) Permalink

I would read 3000 pages about JT though.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 13:21 (10 years ago) Permalink

Mark S super righton there, Caro'd better get to that bit though we can maybe work things out from wherever he stops before that, depending on his approach. I hope it's deeply "psychological".

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 13:25 (10 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...
how could i have missed this thread?

no, chuck, it was totally ethically unacceptable to have traded in the LBJ bio for anything. all three volumes are a must-have for political junkies. unless yer not a political junkie.

Tad (llamasfur), Sunday, 7 September 2003 06:43 (10 years ago) Permalink

it's not too late, the felix da housecat remix of the LBJ bio is out now and you can catch up that way.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 7 September 2003 15:53 (10 years ago) Permalink

4 years pass...

i'm (finally) reading the path to power, caro's first LBJ book. it's incredibly gripping stuff, though caro is almost hilariously melodramatic - reading him talking about how LBJ's great-grandparents went to texas expecting to build a great farming empire only to blissfully drive across the exact point where there wasn't enough rain to farm, he's so worked up and horrified it's like you're reading stephen king or something. but he does such a good job of putting across the genuine drama in things no other writer would even bother mentioning that it doesn't seem to matter.

J.D., Wednesday, 2 January 2008 08:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

because of the wang?

The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 08:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

Why would someone be interested in LBJ's biography in the first place?
-- Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 12:16 (4 years ago) Link

i dunno, guy who does 'feminist studies', why would they?

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 10:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

I'm 80 pages into the third volume -- it's extraordinary, certainly the most gripping history of the Senate I've ever read, from thet aborted impeachment of a Supreme Court justice (presided by Vice President Aaron Burr), through the "Golden Age" of Clay, Webster, and Calhoun, the Gilded Age, the Lodge-Wilson League of Nations battles, and FDR. It's a marvel of compression, wit, and scholarship.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 16 February 2008 03:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

Sorry, you need to know about Justin Timberlake more.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 February 2008 03:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

I'd like to at least read The Power Broker before I die, but it'd probably be foolish of me to even attempt this.

Hurting 2, Saturday, 16 February 2008 03:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

it is the third most gripping history I have read

remy bean, Saturday, 16 February 2008 03:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

There's some kind of arrangement whereby one can exchange an unwanted book for the Justin Timberlake? Wow. Would you just keep him in the cupboard and let him out to entertain guests when you throw a party or something like that?

chap, Saturday, 16 February 2008 03:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

I haven't read the other two volumes.

The only thing I don't know about JT is his foot size.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 16 February 2008 03:24 (6 years ago) Permalink

it is the third most gripping history I have read

What are the first two?

Mr. Goodman, Saturday, 16 February 2008 03:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

soy un mentiroso

remy bean, Saturday, 16 February 2008 03:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

it is the third most gripping history I have read

What are the first two?

-- Mr. Goodman, Friday, February 15, 2008 9:42 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

alley oop for a zing if ever i saw one

deej, Saturday, 16 February 2008 03:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

I'd like to at least read The Power Broker before I die, but it'd probably be foolish of me to even attempt this.

Start it! It's really engaging and hard to put down until like 800 pages in.

C0L1N B..., Saturday, 16 February 2008 18:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

roommate has been chugging through these for the last couple of months

gbx, Saturday, 16 February 2008 18:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

LBJ is my favorite US president to read about. Minus all that "Vietnam" stuff, I genuinely find him to be one of the best presidents this country has ever had.

When is the final Years of LBJ book coming out?

musically, Saturday, 16 February 2008 18:57 (6 years ago) Permalink

LBJ is my favorite US president to read about. Minus all that "Vietnam" stuff, I genuinely find him to be one of the best presidents this country has ever had.

... Yeah, what he said.

Mr. Goodman, Saturday, 16 February 2008 19:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

3 years pass...

finished the first volume of this last night and immediately picked up the second one. it is literally an epic. like jd says upthread, caro can be hilariously melodramatic (and repetitive: don't know how many times he uses the phrase "a drive to win, to dominate, to bend others to his will" but it's a lot) but when the work is this big and this detailed and spins out to cover so much of texan+american history 1870(!)--1968 (eventually, maybe, if caro lives; he is the george r r martin of presidential biographers: a joust with johnsons) the heightened tone is excusable. love when it introduces a character and then leaves johnson for ten or twenty or fifty pages to insert a biography-within-a-biography -- long-serving speaker sam rayburn in particular is almost a protagonist in the second half of the first volume, and the details in the huge chapter that introduces him aren't just for detail's sake but get returned to again and again w/r/t his personality's interaction with johnson's -- and love how much it ends up telling you not just about lyndon johnson but about every environment he was ever in: the texas hill country, the d.c. congressional bureaucracy, the implementation end of the new deal, the fdr-era house of reps. (looking forward like crazy to the 1000-page brick about his senate years.) also omg its extended digression about texas governor/senator pappy o'daniel; i didn't know about him at all. so yeah, noted "poptimist" me sez way >>>>>>>> justified.

occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 19 January 2012 18:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

He, unlike LBJ, gets more poised and assured with each succeeding volume. By the time you get to Master of the Universe it's a Mann novel.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 January 2012 19:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

vol. 2's first instance of "not merely to lead but to dominate, to bend others to his will": pg. 22

occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 20 January 2012 16:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

i didn't realize robert caro had a bio of timberlake out

bene_gesserit, Friday, 20 January 2012 16:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Minus all that "Vietnam" stuff, I genuinely find him to be one of the best presidents this country has ever had.

As Peewee Herman said, everybody's got a big... minus.

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 January 2012 16:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

as i said elsewhere johnson comes across as a clinical psychopath in this book

occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 20 January 2012 17:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

wow, just googled caro to see if there was anything new on the last volume. apparently he's doing FIVE LBJ books now. jesus.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/entertainment/2011/11/robert-caros-next-giant-lbj-book-due-out-may/44406/

next one due out in may!

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 06:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

that is EXCITING NEWS in my household!!

not surprised it's stretching to five volumes; considering what went on w/LBJ in 1964-68 it may become six

anyway, yay

demolition with discretion (m coleman), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 10:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'd never fit these books into the rest of my allotted lifespan

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 12:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Bill O'Reilly has signed a deal to write two more books for Henry Holt and Co., publisher of his current best seller Killing Lincoln, the Fox News commentator's first work of history. O'Reilly's already under contract to write a memoir for Holt and Holt publisher Stephen Rubin says one of the two new projects will be a biography of a president-to-be-determined, and promises it will read like "history told in a narrative, novelistic fashion."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 12:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

I read the first volume of this many years ago, thought it was excellent; this reminds me that I need to follow up.

clemenza, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 13:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

(LBJ, not Justin Timberlake.)

clemenza, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 13:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

It's here!.

In his years of working on Johnson, Robert Caro has come to know him better — or to understand him better — than Johnson knew or understood himself. He knows Johnson’s good side and his bad: how he became the youngest Senate majority leader in history and how, by whispering one thing in the ears of the Southern senators and another in Northern ears, he got the Civil Rights Act of 1957 through a Congress that had squelched every civil rights bill since 1875; how he fudged his war record and earned himself a medal by doing nothing more than taking a single plane ride; how, while vice president during the Cuban missile crisis, his hawkishness scared the daylights out of President Kennedy and his brother Robert. Caro has learned about Johnson’s rages, his ruthlessness, his lies, his bribes, his insecurities, his wheedling, his groveling, his bluster, his sycophancy, his charm, his kindness, his streak of compassion, his friends, his enemies, his girlfriends, his gofers and bagmen, his table manners, his drinking habits, even his nickname for his penis: not Johnson, but Jumbo.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 April 2012 17:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

so excited for this. am only like halfway through vol 3 (got sidetracked by trotsky's caro-length history of the revolution, then by some related stuff and for some reason the magic mountain) but will probably push through this month, to be ready. where is the hbo miniseries.

their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 14 April 2012 15:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

or series, rather. obviously there is nothing mini about this.

their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 14 April 2012 15:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

yay! though i'm gonna wait till it comes out in paperback.

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Saturday, 14 April 2012 17:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

that story makes me want to give up on my life so i can become a historian and understand political power

j., Saturday, 14 April 2012 17:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Always wanted to read this and liked how uncompromising he came across but also really offputting how the research and time and willingness to say something in 15 sentences rather than one is put into saying that...power corrupts. Does he really understand political power or is his somewhat romantic conception of it massaged over and over again into 3,000 pages of prose.

Maybe Foucault's ghost could re-write it sometime.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 15 April 2012 09:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

in this book johnson is just about exactly as corrupt at age 8 as he is when he's king of the senate, so i don't think that's the moral. plus like the article says half of vol. 2 is about coke stevenson, whom caro (suspiciously, yes) portrays as basically a saint, but a powerful one -- just not as powerful as johnson becomes, probably because the quality that most makes him a saint in caro's eyes is his lack of interest in power. (at the end of the volume, when johnson's successfully stolen the 1948 texas senatorial election from stevenson after a campaign involving helicopters and an insane legal fight that goes on forever, the last we see of stevenson is him standing in a boat drifting down the river on his ranch, opening his arms to embrace the land he owns, a private citizen again, blissful and powerless.) the book's more about where power comes from, both generally and in american republicanism; how you get it; how you hold it; what you can, with sufficient skill and patience, train it to do; the checks and balances both designed and accidental placed on it by various different institutions at various different times; how these are almost all overcome by a guy who Wants To Be President basically from birth and will play totally amoral multi-decade three-dimensional chess to make it happen -- but who is also, despite his lust for ascension and refined talent for manipulation and deceit, driven by a desire to utterly destroy, in america, the poverty he grew up in. he also ends up being the one to finally break jim crow. if the book (so far) has a Theme it's the way johnson's psychopathic power-lust coexists+intertwines with his belief in social justice: dark and light "threads" that both unspool from the same childhood experience of destitute humiliation. if you wanted to get fancy (caro so far thankfully has not) you could say that these same two threads run through america as they run through lbj; run, in both cases, all the way into the vietnamese mud. but you don't need to -- this is just a long story of an interesting guy with a series of interesting jobs.

their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 15 April 2012 15:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

(if you rolled your eyes at any of that prose you will roll them out of your head within ten pages of caro, but i do that too. it ends up affectionate.)

their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 15 April 2012 15:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

nah appreciate the explanation and glad that it seems to be going somewhere else than something so simplistic.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 15 April 2012 18:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.robertacaro.com/newvan.htm

interesting read from 1999

iatee, Sunday, 15 April 2012 21:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

just read that NYTMag piece, I'm amazed he finishes anything.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 April 2012 02:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Another Caro profile:

http://www.esquire.com/print-this/robert-caro-0512?page=all

the hairy office thing (Eazy), Monday, 16 April 2012 03:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

loled at this exchange:

CARO
I had talked to Lyndon's relatives and they said everything [in LBJ's preserved boyhood home] was exactly like it was when they grew up. So I got permission to take Sam Houston in there after hours when it was closed and there were no tourists in there. We went in at about five or six o'clock at night. And I had him sit down at the dining room table. It was a plank table, long and thin, just like the original, and Lyndon's father and mother used to sit in chairs at the two ends. There were two plank benches and the three sisters used to sit on one side, and Sam Houston and Lyndon sat on the other. I had him sit in the place in which he had sat when he was a boy. And then I said to him, "Now I want you to tell me about these terrible fights between your father and Lyndon." I wanted to put him back in his boyhood, to make him remember accurately how things had happened. At first this was very slow going. His memories came back very slowly, and there were long pauses between his sentences. I'd have to ask, "Well, then, what would your father say?" And then, "What would Lyndon say?" But gradually the inhibitions fell away, and it was no longer necessary for me to say anything. He started talking faster and faster. And finally he was shouting back and forth-the father, for example, shouting, "Lyndon, God damn it, you're a failure, you'll be a failure all your life." By this time I felt that he was really in the fame of mind to remember accurately, and I said, "Now, Sam Houston, I want you to tell me all the stories about your brother's boyhood that you told me before, the stories that your brother told all those years, only give me more details." There was this long pause. Then he said, "1 can't." I said, "Why not?" And he said, "Because they never happened." And he started talking and basically told me the story of Johnson's youth that is in my first volume. And after that I went back to the other kids, old people by now but then kids, who had been involved in each incident in college or in California or whatever and when I asked them about the incidents that Sam Houston had related, they would say, "Yes, that is what happened and I remember so and so." Everything was confirmed. So when you ask about Lyndon Johnson, and whether I like him or dislike him, that doesn't even compute in my feeling. I felt I had come to understand him. And, understanding him, I came to feel very sorry for him. He was so ashamed of his background and there was no reason to be. He was so ashamed that he made up a whole myth about his youth.

VONNEGUT
I was wondering if devoting so much of your life to other people's lives has done anything to your mind?

their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Monday, 16 April 2012 07:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

That Esquire profile is remarkable.

And I have been called "The Appetite" (DL), Monday, 16 April 2012 10:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Tomorrow!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 April 2012 12:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

Chapter 2 - The Rich Man's Son - on Kennedy pretty great. Love how Caro does these little min-biographies on the other major characters in the story.

You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike. (hugo), Thursday, 3 May 2012 16:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

huh, it's coming out a whole month later over here

thomp, Friday, 4 May 2012 15:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

i've read none of these books, but i want to

markers, Friday, 4 May 2012 15:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

i didn't look at the byline on that nyt thing so i was thinking 'why does this guy think this book review is about him so much' and then i got to

Bill Clinton was the 42nd president of the United States.

thomp, Friday, 4 May 2012 15:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

i've been meaning to read these for ages. pre-ordered the new one. figured i care about this stuff more than his stealing his high school elections.

thomp, Friday, 4 May 2012 15:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol

markers, Friday, 4 May 2012 15:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

nah the college years stuff in the 1st one is awesome, he's like scamming highly sought-after campus jobs for his cronies and undermining his enemies in pointlessly spectacular fashion. at a tiny teacher's college in nowhere, texas. good shit.

adam, Friday, 4 May 2012 15:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh it sounds fascinating! but if i only get around to spending five hours reading one doorstop about lbj i feel like i ought to learn about the civil rights act instead, y'know?

thomp, Friday, 4 May 2012 15:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah, the college stuff is great, plus 1 has insane coen-inspiring radio flour salesman and charlatan texas governor pappy o'daniel; it's as good as 3. 2 was kind of a dip for me because the last few hundred pages get very detailed about the blow-by-blow of johnson's 1948 senate election and start really suffering from caro's worst habit, which is that he likes explaining the same thing to you over and over to make sure you haven't forgotten; but the stuff about COKE STEVENSON, AMERICAN ICON is fun. (altho he's cast so flawlessly as mirror-johnson it's kinda suspicious.) third one is :O :O :O all thru tho so yeah if you do only read one -- although it will be full of spoilers! like reading only a storm of swords.

their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Friday, 4 May 2012 15:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

WSJ interview.

Just finished the JFK bio in the new one.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 5 May 2012 12:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

here's a moving anecdote about young RFK buying drinks at a bar for the football team but infuriated by someone else's birthday party:

...he walked up behind Magnuson and hit him over the head with a beer bottle, sending him to the hospital for stitches. (A few days later Ken O'Donnell apologized to Magnuson; Bobby hadn't come himself, he said, because "it just wasn't his nature to apologize"

or Bobby abandoning a bro who couldn't sail:

The wind was fading, and as lunchtime approached, Kennedy realized that they might not make it ashore in time for lunch. Obsessed with his father's insistence on punctuality, he simply dove overboard and swam for shore, leaving his helpless crewmate to fend for himself. After flailing about, the friend was rescued by a passing boat. Kennedy made no attempt to apologize. Bobby was not a boy at the time The incident occurred in 1948, when he was twenty two years old

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

Bill Clinton was the 42nd president of the United States.

insufferable "review"

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 May 2012 11:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

I just reached the JFK assassination. Life often plays like a bad movie. Apparently at the same moment the Senate Rules Committee was accepting evidence that LBJ's aide de camp Bobby Baker had accepted bribes and peddled influence.

Lots of lols throughout. I didn't know that if the JFK campaign had been less ruthless LBJ would likely have garnered the nomination in '60. LBJ way with a insult (about JFK: "A little scrawny fella with rickets") glitters throughout.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 May 2012 12:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

pretty much everything i have ever read about RFK, minus apologetic stuff about the '68 campaign, has left me thinking he was a total SOB from day 1.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 7 May 2012 17:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

Garry Wills NYRB review, mostly just highlights:
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2012/may/24/americas-nastiest-blood-feud/

caro's johnson (Eazy), Monday, 7 May 2012 17:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

any idea what is the worst thing LBJ said about JFK in public?

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 May 2012 17:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

He called Joe Kennedy a "Neville Chamberlain umbrella type" and a crook (he was right on both counts). That's where Caro and Jeff Shesol say the odium began; RFK never forgave him.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 May 2012 21:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

Caro makes by far the most convincing case for RFK Maturing than any one of the hagiographers I've read. Apparently he really did create a professional, elite Justice Department and did care about the poor.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 May 2012 21:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

i could swear i read somewhere that caro planned to spend a year or two living in a small village in vietnam to research the last volume, but i can't find a reference to it in any of the recent interviews.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 7 May 2012 22:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

any idea what is the worst thing LBJ said about JFK in public?

the rickets comment qualifies, although it probably amused JFK as much as it did me.

Also: "Have you heard the news? Jack's pediatricians have just given him a clean bill of health."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 May 2012 22:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

Erik Nelson: two-thirds too long.

http://www.salon.com/2012/05/07/robert_caros_bloated_lbj_biography/

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 May 2012 23:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

there was a pretty silly review in the washington post: it complained that caro's sentences were too long, then patronizingly likened it to carl sandburg's book on 'lincoln' and said that it probably wouldn't be used by future historians.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 7 May 2012 23:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

The debate about JFK's decision to choose LBJ as a running mate DOES go on too long, and the book includes too many passages of the "Dormant for three years, suddenly aides saw the grim determination and tight-set mouth they recognized from the fifties" variety. But I haven't finished it yet.

Morbs, have you read any of it?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 May 2012 23:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

I mean Gibbon's history is also two-thirds too long tbh.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 May 2012 23:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

'another damned book! always scribble, scribble! eh, mr gibbon?'

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 7 May 2012 23:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

No, I haven't even opened the copy of The Power Broker I've owned for eons.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 May 2012 23:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

all these books are too long but i mean whatever. what does everyone have to do that's so important.

their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 01:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

caro does repeat himself like you wouldn't believe but the appropriate reaction to that i think is an indulgent lol. and some skimming.

their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 01:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

also for some reason all of the copies of this on the shelf at powell's are autographed

their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 03:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

'caro was here'

lag∞n, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 03:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

"But was there also something about Caro’s pursuit of L.B.J. that was just a little bit Ahab-like?"

an editor let this through?

If the Johnson of Volumes 1 and 2 is the “bad” L.B.J., then the Johnson of Volume 4 is the “good” one. It is almost as if Caro is writing about two different people — as if, for all his reportorial skill, he can’t countenance Johnson being both ruthless and compassionate in the same volume. He has to be one or the other.

This man has neither read Caro's book nor indeed any book.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 May 2012 20:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

I hope someday to become this maniacally devoted to a project. So far my project-perseverance record is a couple years at a couple hours a week.

raw feel vegan (silby), Saturday, 12 May 2012 23:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

guy is too effin' slow, he better live to 90

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 13 May 2012 00:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

Caro makes by far the most convincing case for RFK Maturing than any one of the hagiographers I've read. Apparently he really did create a professional, elite Justice Department and did care about the poor.

oh, to have such an Attorney General once again ...

Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

Jon Stewart seemed a little cowed by him the other night--hardly joked around at all.

clemenza, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

after reading that Esquire profile I'd be cowed too.

raw feel vegan (silby), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

alright i have a library copy of master of the senate

markers, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 22:50 (1 year ago) Permalink


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