I'm going to pop my painting and decorating cherry at the weekend.

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In spite of moving into my flat in November, i'm only getting round to sorting out the previous owner's hideous decor now. All the walls are emulsioned with horrid bruise coloured purple so i intend to whitewash them until i decide properly what to do with them.

Any tips on things i should consider as i've never decorated in my life before?

leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 09:28 (twenty-two years ago)

stuff shows through white unless you multicoat

always at all times recall where you put the paint tin or you WILL STEP IN IT and trail stuff everywhere you don't want it

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 09:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Mark S is right, V to thread!!

other tips, wash the walls thoroughly and let them dry thoroughly too.

chris (chris), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 09:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Use sugar soap to wash the walls.

Sam (chirombo), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 09:47 (twenty-two years ago)

When putting the lid back on the paint, don't use your foot to push it in. I did this, with a plastic lid, and the lid bent and went into the tin of paint, along with my foot. I thought it was absolutely hilarious, but my dad didn't...

Also, make sure you clean the brushes/rollers etc. properly after you've finished, or they'll go all crusty. You'll have to do lots of coats, but you don't have to clean everything between coats, cover brushes/rollers very tightly with clingfilm, and they should survive at least overnight without drying out.

Clear as much space as possible, cover everything, and make sure you've bought enough masking tape.

Good luck!

Vicky (Vicky), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 11:09 (twenty-two years ago)

masking tape u&k as it helps get a nice, sharp finish on skirting boards etc without getting gloss on walls or emulsion on gloss... also make sure you have a variety of brushes to use as each is good for different things, also do not paint in artificial light if you can help it as it's difficult to gauge yr paint coverage and much easier in daylight... wear old clothes and a hat...

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 11:13 (twenty-two years ago)

* Take some extra time to be extra careful about covering floor and masking light switchs/doorframes/etc - or you will hate yourself afterwards.
* Take a look at the ceiling & see if that needs painting as well - if so, do it *before* the walls (painting ceiling is nearly impossible to do without splashing paint on walls).
* Wear a hat or your hair will be messed up for weeks.

Hanna (Hanna), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 11:16 (twenty-two years ago)

The ceilings are ok and are all thankfully painted white. I'm not going to bother with one coat paint cos the purple will doubtlessly shine through. I knew the nasty magazine cover mounted sarongs would come in handy some day, an ideal headcovering.

leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 11:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Also:
* Use putty (sic?) to fill in uneven spots/holes from nails/etc & use sandpaper (sic?) to smooth it out before painting.

(((sorry if that's incomprehensible, my English vocabulary doesn't really stretch to tools & stuff)))

Hanna (Hanna), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 11:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't be shy on paying a little more for decent paint - the cheap shit usually looks like crap and takes twice as many coats for a passable finish. To loose the purple, I'd advise lightly sanding the wall before washing it and at least three coats - one undercoat of any old shit then at least two of some Dulux One Coat or equivalent.

Mask eveything you can. Espacially the edges where the floor meets the walls. If you want to be sure of not getting any splashes on carpets etc you should get some plastic dust sheets and tape them to the edges of the room. It's pricy but can save a lot of trouble.

Do all your sanding before you start painting - and sand everything - go over all wood surfaces such as windows, doors and skirting with sandpaper and if you're painting the radiators, go over them with sandpaper too. Yeah, get the filler in too if you need it, and sand it back until you are happy.

When your're doing the walls you should really do the ceiling too or it'll stick out and piss you off. Do the ceiling first then the walls in sections. Cut them in first (go round the edges at the top and bottom, or the sides with a brush) then fill the rest with the roller. Keep the strokes uniform, top to bottom and back up, and don't overlaod the roller - if it's creating a fine spray there's too much paint on it. Really work the paint in too - you'll always need less paint than you think - painting properly is hard work so if it seems to easy you're not making the paint work hard enough.

Do the glossing on the wood and skirting last of all. Use a light emuslsion undercoat if you can be bothered and when you gloss, don't use a massive brush, and use only a minimal amount of paint on the brush, just on the tips of the fibres - you want to spread it thinly to avoid drips and achjieve a smooth surface. And be prepared for two to three coats for a shit hot finish.

Always wash out and dry all your brushes, rollers and trays thoroughly at the end of each day. Store them in binbags over night. If you look after them, they'll hold up as long as you need them too.

Alex K (Alex K), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 11:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't underestimate just how soul destroying and knackering it's going to be, if you want to do it properly.

Be careful how long you leave masking tape on. Depending on lenth of time, and tackiness, you could make a mess when you take it off. Go for low tack, and don't leave it on too long.

Hanna's completely on the mark. As tempting as shortcuts seem, you'll only regret them in leisure, when you relax, sit back, and notice all the imperfect bits.

I used the plastic sheets for the floor. They work, and you can use them again. Just be careful if it's carpet, as it can make it quite slippy.

Don't scrimp on brushes either, cheap = lots of hairs falling out and covering the wall with the paint. If the surface is good and there's a lot to do i think rollers are a much better way of covering the walls smoothly and evenly.

Vicky (Vicky), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 11:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Get your friends to help. Offering to cook/buy them dinner usually works.

robster (robster), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 12:15 (twenty-two years ago)

When I was little my friend's dad got me, her and our respective siblings to do the painting, he cut some holes in bin liners, popped them over our heads so we wouldn't get too messy and off we went. We thought it was the best thing ever as my dad wouldn't have dreamed of letting us anywhere near his precious walls being as much of a perfectionist as some of you crazy people upthread. Anyway their walls did not turn out noticeably worse than my dad's lovingly prepared walls so my advice is get some 10 year old kids with rollers to do it.

Emma, Wednesday, 30 July 2003 12:22 (twenty-two years ago)

They have special masking tape for painters but I have no idea if it's a ripoff (so to speak) or not.

Also, Hanna, your English was perfect! :)

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 12:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Yus indeed! Hurrah for Hanna who is posting more and can tell us about cool things!

I have no practical advice beyond the general 'wear your scruffiest clothes/pull your hair back/hide it if possible' notes given elsewhere.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Get someone else to do it for you.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 17:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I think Martin's is the most sensible suggestion so far!

Vicky (Vicky), Thursday, 31 July 2003 07:40 (twenty-two years ago)

four years pass...

well, anybody got any other tips?

i gotta look into drop cloths and a "paint brush comb" etc. i have some apartmenttherapy posts bookmarked and stuff.

how about primer? is that so important, if i've got white walls to begin with?

washing the walls beforehand, srsly??

gff, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 18:31 (eighteen years ago)

seven years pass...

Funnily enough ... seven years since the above post ... I was just wondering whether to apply primer or not. It adds depth to the colour said the bloke in the shop.

djh, Thursday, 23 July 2015 21:44 (ten years ago)

six years pass...

So ... the last paint job in the bathroom has flaked badly and the surfaces look fucked. They've been partly sanded but ... is there a decent product for skimming over the crap bits???

djh, Monday, 2 May 2022 21:37 (four years ago)


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