Unavailable sodas you have known and loved

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This is the thread where we discuss tasty sodas that are no longer made.

1: Surge. (Is it really no longer made, or just no longer available in the Southern US?) Much, much better than Mountain Dew because of the extra added hint of orange.

2: Aspen. This was a wonderfully crisp-tasting apple soda from the early Eighties, made by the Coca-Cola people.

Christine "Green Leafy Dragon" Indigo (cindigo), Friday, 18 April 2003 23:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

MOXIE!!!

A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 18 April 2003 23:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

dear lord not moxie - are you inSANE?

luna (luna.c), Friday, 18 April 2003 23:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think it's still around, though.

Christine "Green Leafy Dragon" Indigo (cindigo), Friday, 18 April 2003 23:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

it is in New England, I know

luna (luna.c), Friday, 18 April 2003 23:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

I seem to remember a grape soda called "Purple Passion" that I loved as a child.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 18 April 2003 23:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

is Frank's (a Philadelphia-area brand) still around?

Tad (llamasfur), Friday, 18 April 2003 23:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

Faygo?

Mandee, Saturday, 19 April 2003 00:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

I buy it at Big Lots all of the time.

Christine "Green Leafy Dragon" Indigo (cindigo), Saturday, 19 April 2003 00:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

Moxie is still available in the Northeast U.S.
However I still can't get a Mr. Pibb past Ohio :-(

brg30 (brg30), Saturday, 19 April 2003 00:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

I haven't seen a Delaware Punch in ages. I used to adore those with a (pardon the pun) purple passion.

http://store4.yimg.com/I/soda-pop_1724_4471092

Apparently they still make it in Mexico, but that doesn't help me.

Oooh, I've found this:

http://store4.yimg.com/I/soda-pop_1724_4524815

DELAWARE PUNCH CONCENTRATE!!

*face lights up*

Maybe there *is* a way of getting some Delaware Punch around here, even if I end up producing it myself. Now all I need to do is find a good recipe for onion rings and make myself a burger and ta-da, I'm 10 again.

Dee the Lurker (Dee the Lurker), Saturday, 19 April 2003 00:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

can i get a Quatro? oh yeh

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 19 April 2003 00:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

I remember in EPCOT center a few years ago they had a soda tent with samples of sodas from around the world. Some of them were amazing.

A Nairn (moretap), Saturday, 19 April 2003 00:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

Is New York Seltzer still around? A very eighties soda. I have some horrible movie called Mankillers somewhere in the video archive that features one of the most awkward product placements ever, as Our Troubled Heroine awakes from her sleep and memory-ridden dreams of the past, then moves to a window and sips some New York Seltzer to refresh herself, then holds the bottle at an awkward angle to ensure maximum screen exposure.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 19 April 2003 00:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

I used to like New York Seltzer a lot. Can't seem to find it much anymore. Also: Dr. Enuf. Brown's Cel-Ray soda is hard to find sometimes but not really unavailable, so it doesn't count I suppose.

Millar (Millar), Saturday, 19 April 2003 00:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

has anyone had Loco Soda?

http://www.locosoda.com/

A Nairn (moretap), Saturday, 19 April 2003 00:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

get all yr Vitamin C needs with C.C. Lemon

but seriously, isn't 1480%, like, illegal?

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 19 April 2003 00:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

Cheerwine, certainly. Irn-Bru for us poor North Americans as well. I need to try Beverly, however; its a running gag on rec.roller-coaster that its the worst soda ever created. Tastes like some sort of asphalt variant, supposedly.

Alan Conceicao, Saturday, 19 April 2003 00:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

oh yeah, every soda in Japan is crazy good (and unavailable). I can't wait to drink some more of that Qoo or Pocari Sweat.

A Nairn (moretap), Saturday, 19 April 2003 00:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

Orbitz. Remember????

And Mint Snapple Iced Tea... I haven't found it in a while, but that went grebt with a turkey club in August.

jm (jtm), Saturday, 19 April 2003 01:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

OK.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 19 April 2003 02:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

but seriously, isn't 1480%, like, illegal?

"Emergen-C" to thread. I once did one of these to replace electrolytes on a hike. I felt *very good* for most of the day.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 19 April 2003 02:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

tab clear
i dunno if you can get it anywhere
the shop in landsdowne road train station used to be the only place you could get it in dublin
it was really nice
anyone else remember it?

robin (robin), Saturday, 19 April 2003 02:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

"And Mint Snapple Iced Tea... I haven't found it in a while, but that went grebt with a turkey club in August. "

Whoa, that is funny. At one sandwich place in my town I always get a turkey club and a mint snapple.

A Nairn (moretap), Saturday, 19 April 2003 02:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

I couldn't beleieve how bad Moxie was. Like, worse than cough syrup.

Aaron A., Saturday, 19 April 2003 02:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

Kickapoo Joy Juice, tasted awful, but came in a great bottle.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Saturday, 19 April 2003 03:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

Franks is stil around, see the Philadelphia/Fitladelphia thread fo pics

I remember 'enjore" a raspberry coke product that was available in africa when i was a kid. no idea what it was called (or if it was available) elsewhere

H (Heruy), Saturday, 19 April 2003 03:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

Do they still make Werners Ginger Ale? It's YUMMY

also, pocari sweat *does* rock my taste buds

phil-two (phil-two), Saturday, 19 April 2003 04:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

i was a fan of clear pepsi as well, though i suspect that im the only one

phil-two (phil-two), Saturday, 19 April 2003 04:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

/me toasts to jody beth rosen.

brian badword (badwords), Saturday, 19 April 2003 05:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

Franks is stil around, see the Philadelphia/Fitladelphia thread fo pics

yeah, i saw that picture but i didn't know that they still made Frank's (for all i knew, the Frank's fridge could've been stocked with Cokes and Pepsis).

not that Frank's was all that ... it was good, but not great (kinda like Philadelphia itself, but i digress!)

Tad (llamasfur), Saturday, 19 April 2003 06:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

TAB!
Wastin' other sucka soda pop
load up the clip
and watch the wack drinks drop!

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Saturday, 19 April 2003 06:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

I thought OK was some kind of right wing plot?

Anyway this totally steals my thunder I was gonna start an "indie Pop" pic thread. Tho that's not the same as unavailable I guess. But still largely redundant.

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Saturday, 19 April 2003 07:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

We can't get Mountain Dew here :(

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 19 April 2003 10:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

Does anyone remember Shizan (I think it was called) - kind of like a sweeter Purdey's, sold in a regular soft drink can. I haven't seen it for maybe 6 or 7 years (this is in the UK), but I thought it rocked. Anyone?

Mark C (Mark C), Saturday, 19 April 2003 12:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

Mountain Dew :(

TAB Clear :(

Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 19 April 2003 12:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

DRINK WINK

Aaron A., Saturday, 19 April 2003 12:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

Is Slice still around?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 19 April 2003 12:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

the best one i discovered recently was called G4ce (G-Force - geddit?). It's apple flavoured but it has a chili kick!

dog latin (dog latin), Saturday, 19 April 2003 13:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

Aspen was gross.

Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 19 April 2003 13:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

"'We didn't generate enough profitable volume to continue it', Coke spokesman Randy Donaldson said yesterday. Tom Pirko, president of Bevmark, a beverage consultant, put it another way: 'It didn't become the drink of Generation X, which is a market very resistant to having messages pitched directly at it.' It is also a market that doesn't necessarily believe everything will be OK."

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 19 April 2003 14:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

Moxie. You have to grow up with it to like it, I think. And you don't notice the bitterness/medicinal taste if you're accustomed to it. On the rare occasion I visit my mother in New England, I bring back as much of it as I can carry. My last trip there, the first time I took a plane post-9/11, they were scanning my carry-on, and the guard gave me this weird look.

Me: "What's wrong?"
Guard: "We're picking up a lot of organics and a lot of metals. And your backpack is REALLY heavy. What's in there?"
Me: "Two pounds of pastrami and 24 cans of Moxie."
Guard: "... what?"
Me: "Two pounds of pastrami and 24 cans of Moxie. I live in the South. I grew up here. I gotta stock up."
Guard opens bag.
Guard: "That's a lot of pastrami."
Me: "Yeah."
Guard: "That's a LOT of Moxie."
Me: "Yeah."
Guard: "All right, have a nice flight."

Also, brg30, have you checked places like movie theaters and fast-food places for Mr Pibb? In a lot of places (like Louisiana), it isn't available in cans or bottles because of Coca-Cola's distribution agreement w/ Dr Pepper, but they can still wholesale the syrup.

I also miss the sodas Snapple used to do (and maybe still do, just not here), long before the ads and the Seinfeld and so on -- clear cola in particular.

Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 19 April 2003 18:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Moxie is death in a soda can. I will say no more.

luna (luna.c), Saturday, 19 April 2003 18:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

Another vote for Cel-Ray. It's not impossible to get out here (I have found two places that stock it, neither of which I go to very often) but oh would that it were.

Chris P (Chris P), Saturday, 19 April 2003 18:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

i noticed this brand for the 1st time ever tonight : Golden Circle SARS! i imagine that will soon become unavailable.

duane, Saturday, 19 April 2003 18:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

mmmm Cherry RC.

bnw (bnw), Saturday, 19 April 2003 18:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well, it's not soda (or "pop"), and apparently it's still around, but Honeydew used to be THE DRINK when I was little.

http://www.hdew.com/content/images/cne.gif

I miss this more though:

http://www.pww.on.ca/shoppe2.jpg

Kim (Kim), Saturday, 19 April 2003 19:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

i used to love the green sunkist.

ron (ron), Saturday, 19 April 2003 19:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

I wanna pop, I wanna....Shasta!

hstencil, Saturday, 19 April 2003 19:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

I've got my doubts about this story, but kinda interesting in that generic store mix anyway:

In the late 80s, Grapette International's chairman, Brooks Rice, met Sam Walton, founder of Wal-Mart. Without wasting words, Walton told him, "I want Grapette in my stores." Rice explained that although he couldn't provide the use of the brand names in the United States, he could offer the flavors that once made the famous brands. Rice also personally pledged that some day, he would fulfill Walton's request to have Grapette and Orangette in his stores.

Soon, Wal-Mart was using some of the authentic Grapette Company flavor profiles in its Sam's Choice line of signature sodas. These flavors fit perfectly within the Sam's Choice brand, offering innovative, quality products at a better value than the leading national brands. But it always felt like something was missing — specifically, the famous Grapette and Orangette brand names.

In early 2000, Grapette International was able to purchase the U.S. rights to the Grapette and Orangette trademarks, finally reuniting the flavors with their brand names. Now the third generation of founder Paul May's family has given Wal-Mart what Sam Walton requested almost twenty years earlier.

In 2005, Sam's Choice Grapette and Sam's Choice Orangette became available exclusively in Wal-Mart stores nationwide. The drinks' quality is reinforced by their nationally-recognized brands at an exceptional value to the consumer. We invite you to enjoy Sam's Choice Grapette and Orangette today — Thirsty or Not!

pplains, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 14:58 (nine years ago) link

I mean, no joke, this stuff was the shit.

http://i.imgur.com/opexRIA.png

http://i.imgur.com/NMLdGaY.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/m2BfMDT.jpg

pplains, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 15:01 (nine years ago) link

Just look at that 10 oz "King Size".

pplains, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 15:01 (nine years ago) link

i like the forceful nature of the "Thirsty or Not" slogan

Ass Tchotchke! (jjjusten), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 15:26 (nine years ago) link

"Not in the mood for a soda? Well fuck you, bucko, you're drinking this either way."

Ass Tchotchke! (jjjusten), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 15:27 (nine years ago) link

Grapette was indeed the shit. Mmmmm.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 15:30 (nine years ago) link

xp lol

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 15:30 (nine years ago) link

legitimate grape

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link

can you still get it at wal-mart? i've been to that place once in my life, but i'd go again for a nice grape soda.

I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 15:45 (nine years ago) link

It's listed on the Walmart website as "in store only".

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 15:48 (nine years ago) link

This might still be around, but I haven't been to New Orleans lately: Big Shot. Of of my favorite things when I was walking to Jazzfest was always to stop at a gas station and buy a very cheap (I think they were 25 cents) pineapple soda. Probably no better than Shasta's or Faygo's or any other fake pineapple taste, but it was the ritual, and they were local.

Deliciously hard yet very accessible (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link

I'd go to Walmart to try a Sam's Choice Grapette, but… boy am i skeptical.

Sam's Cola tastes like 87 octane, with a hint of citrus.

pplains, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link

I haven't gone back to read the history, but I'm inferring from Rice explained that although he couldn't provide the use of the brand names in the United States, he could offer the flavors that someone sold out the domestic U.S. market.

Which is pretty interesting to see on the image search where we go from this:

http://i.imgur.com/ljIysSN.png

http://i.imgur.com/DQNEOjK.jpg

to this:

http://i.imgur.com/LwYYV7t.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/8MOerFV.jpg

Ooo La la

pplains, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:49 (nine years ago) link

dan, big shot is still around. pineapple, strawberry, all the essential flavors. my favorite big shot experience (besides a clerk at rite aid encouraging me to mix pineapple big shot and malibu) was at the early-00s (katrina-destroyed) local chain chicken box. their motto was "tastes like ya mama's!" and they sold chicken (5pc for $1.98, legs and thighs only), limp french fries with salt AND pepper, and big shot, 24 hours a day, through bulletproof glass. eaten hot, it was the best fried chicken in the city. eaten cold and you prayed for death. but yeah, 3am chicken and pineapple big shot eaten in a parking lot is peak regional soda experience.

i would also fuck with a grape soda right now.

adam, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:16 (nine years ago) link

Thanks, Adam! I just did a google earth check, and the station I always used to stop at is still there on the corner of Esplanade and Claiborne. It had a Big Shot vending machine outside with all the flavors.

Deliciously hard yet very accessible (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:37 (nine years ago) link

this thread was already making me thirsty, now adam's talk of 3 AM fried chicken is making me hungry too. damn you.

I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:09 (nine years ago) link

dan if you are stopping at esplanade and claiborne i hope you are going in to manchu (the purple cinderblock building) to get some chicken wings.

did we ever determine what the best currently-and-widely available grape soda is? i need to make a stop on the way home

adam, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:19 (nine years ago) link

tempted to just mix some seltzer and this cough syrup i have in my medicine cabinet

I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:21 (nine years ago) link

sorry, syzzurp

I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:21 (nine years ago) link

woops

marcos, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:34 (nine years ago) link

not sure how "unavailable" it is though, i do seem to see it in latin markets here and there in the states

marcos, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link

Manchu's duly noted. I already really want to get to Li'l Dizzy's; I'll never leave that intersection.

Deliciously hard yet very accessible (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:38 (nine years ago) link

inca kola is pretty easily available, esp. in mexican/central american groceries

I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 20:04 (nine years ago) link

in the USA i mean

I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 20:04 (nine years ago) link

yea it's true, i just felt like turning everybody on to inca kola. tbh i'm not even a soda person anymore but i grew up drinking a lot of inca kola

marcos, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 20:07 (nine years ago) link

oh yeah, i've tried to eliminate the "empty calories" of soda since i started eating better, and now it's very much a treat rather than a daily thing.

I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 20:09 (nine years ago) link

when i went to disney world in i think 2001, there was this pepsi-branded tent thing, called like "the chill zone" or smth like that, where you go through some misty blue tunnels that get increasingly colder which was really nice in the summer florida weather, and at the end you reach this big room filled with soda fountains and sample cups. the sodas were imported from all over the world and there was a watermelon soda from brazil and it was incredible. i haven't been able to find it since. i've had other watermelon sodas but they all do the jones soda thing where there isn't enough flavor syrup and the sharpness of the carbonation is the first thing you taste. i've been missing that soda for half my life.

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 02:52 (nine years ago) link

I found some elderflower Fanta from Hungary or Romania last year when I was in Atlanta -- really good stuff. Unfortunately I didn't see any the next time I was at the same store (Buford Hwy Farmers Mkt).

Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 03:01 (nine years ago) link

when i went to disney world in i think 2001, there was this pepsi-branded tent thing, called like "the chill zone" or smth like that, where you go through some misty blue tunnels that get increasingly colder which was really nice in the summer florida weather, and at the end you reach this big room filled with soda fountains and sample cups. the sodas were imported from all over the world and there was a watermelon soda from brazil and it was incredible. i haven't been able to find it since. i've had other watermelon sodas but they all do the jones soda thing where there isn't enough flavor syrup and the sharpness of the carbonation is the first thing you taste. i've been missing that soda for half my life.

― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, October 28, 2014 9:52 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

was this a beautiful dream or reality?

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 03:29 (nine years ago) link

no, that's a real thing, it's at Epcot and it's Coke

Belami Young (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 04:07 (nine years ago) link

Minute Maid Valencia Orange soda was the best orange soda to have ever existed; there has never been an orange soda that has come close to tasting as good as it did.

Does good orange soda even exist anymore??

Belami Young (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 04:08 (nine years ago) link

omg thank you i could've sworn it was pepsi and apparently never tried searching for coke and apparently it's still a thing

i guess the soda was actually from china, or i was actually drinking guarana soda probably not

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 04:16 (nine years ago) link

"Can we go back to the –"

"NO. I mean, not yet."

pplains, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 05:01 (nine years ago) link

I've never been to the Coke experience thing here in ATL, but from what I hear there's an opportunity to sample a bunch of Coke products from around the world until your belly is sloshing as you walk out the door. I may do it one day.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 05:13 (nine years ago) link

Went here and sat on the polar bear's lap, thankyouverymuch.

pplains, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 05:25 (nine years ago) link

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3458/3708695307_9a27cba89d.jpg
OG Corr's Ginseng Rush. This stuff had (has?) life-affirming qualities.

andrew m., Wednesday, 29 October 2014 15:40 (nine years ago) link

But don't take my word for it. Let's hear what the fine folks at Beverages Direct have to say.

"In 1978 it single-handedly created the natural beverage category – it was America’s first functional beverage. Twenty-three ingredients singing a song, at once enchanting and refreshing, still unmatched by any other drink."

Haven't seen it around here since, oh, late 90s.

andrew m., Wednesday, 29 October 2014 15:46 (nine years ago) link

that ginseng root's got as much subtlety as Joe Camel.

pplains, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 16:07 (nine years ago) link

Bought some Grapette at Walmart the other day, btw. Much more subtle "grape" flavoring than I remember. Would drink again.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 00:04 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

My glass bottle Nehi quest has been successful! I just happened to be in the BP station down the street from my house after filling up my car and noticed they sell it there. I'm currently indulging in a bottle of peach, but I'm saving the bottle of grape for later.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 27 November 2014 18:11 (nine years ago) link

four years pass...

I wanna track down and drink a Delaware Punch in honor of Hank Gupton https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delaware_Punch

Vape Store (crüt), Thursday, 27 June 2019 06:42 (four years ago) link

Vernors got nixed from all the American groceries I was fond of and I really havent seen it since. Maybe a decade ago. Does it exist? Wiki page says yeah, sure.

57mg/20floz, Thursday, 27 June 2019 12:40 (four years ago) link

Here in Asia there is a Coca-Cola/coffee hybrid that is a much better cooperation between the two flavors than you'd ever expect. Sponsored Post.

57mg/20floz, Thursday, 27 June 2019 12:41 (four years ago) link

Was it Barista Bros?

https://i.imgur.com/la4h7qD.jpg

As a tourist, I unashamedly drank the shit out of this in Australia a few years ago.

pplains, Thursday, 27 June 2019 13:34 (four years ago) link

Not read the thread through so may have said a few years ago a Schizandra based thing from I think Schweppes. Was around back in the mid 90s when I was in Dublin.

Stevolende, Thursday, 27 June 2019 13:50 (four years ago) link

new york seltzer relaunched in 2015. you can see if it's avail near you!

https://www.newyorkseltzer.com/store-locator/

andrew m., Thursday, 27 June 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link

we've got some vanilla on the shelf at home...for special occasions.

andrew m., Thursday, 27 June 2019 19:42 (four years ago) link


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