ftr (again) not really defending Godard here. genuinely was curious as to what it was that really got to people which turned into trolling accusations etc...
― Gukbe, Friday, 19 November 2010 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link
i think that was spelled out upthread -- multiple times
― the business class edition of the ronaldinho bottle opener thread (sarahel), Friday, 19 November 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link
there's just this really curious thing that happens when a whole bunch of people in a business are trying to make as much money as possible, some of whom happen to be jewish, and the ones who get singled out as the ones trying to make the money are specifically the ones who are jewish.
― omar little, Friday, 19 November 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm not sure that's what is happening here but obviously i've said that multiple times
― Gukbe, Friday, 19 November 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Godard at 80:
http://mubi.com/notebook/posts/2600
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 December 2010 12:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Will be showing the class four minutes of this this morning:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4LWwhFJoUw
As I've mentioned before, it was two or three decades of general puzzlement (and annoyance) for me before I was able to get anything out of Godard. I now find things like the coffee-cup detour here very moving. "When the future is more present than the present..."
― clemenza, Friday, 3 December 2010 12:54 (thirteen years ago) link
http://larryfire.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/mickey-mouse-birthday2.jpg
still haven't got round to reading 'godard at 70', mind
― Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Tried to watch Histoire(s) du Cinema again last nite; gave me a headache. :/
― Stevie T, Friday, 3 December 2010 13:09 (thirteen years ago) link
but stevie, it brings to an end the identifiably european culture that began with dante!
― rip whiney g weingarten 03/11 never forget (history mayne), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:22 (thirteen years ago) link
is that a colin mccabe quote?
― Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:24 (thirteen years ago) link
yes
― rip whiney g weingarten 03/11 never forget (history mayne), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:25 (thirteen years ago) link
it's kind of funnie because for eliot, on whom maccabe is supposed to be an authority, that homogenous, one european culture that began with dante was ended by the english civil war/british civil wars, or by the forces that caused it/them; anyway, that's what he's alluding to, i suppose
sensibility keeps on getting more dissociated every gd year
― rip whiney g weingarten 03/11 never forget (history mayne), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:27 (thirteen years ago) link
saw big col trying to int jlg onstage at the nft abt 10 years ago, prob the most excruiating encounter between admirer and object of devotion i've ever witnessed
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 3 December 2010 13:30 (thirteen years ago) link
godard seems to bring that out in people. the new yorker's richard brody interviewed him back then and apparently it was insanely awkward -- afterwards, they ended up in the same restaurant, but pointedly jlg and amm both ignored brodybro. who went on to write a very long biography of godard.
― rip whiney g weingarten 03/11 never forget (history mayne), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link
very long and very fawning, i should say: he got very upset when people used bits from it (you can guess to what prejudice they pertained) to attack godard
― rip whiney g weingarten 03/11 never forget (history mayne), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:33 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, this was like 20 min arselicking question from CM taking in dante, eliot, cambridge structuralism, dagenham motors, maoism and what not followed by monosyllabic grunt from JLG
bukowski writes of a v funny (if incredibly self-serving) encounter w 'jean-luc modard' in his 'novel' Hollywood (iirc, Buk wrote the English subtitles for 'Slow Motion'... cld be misremembering...)
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 3 December 2010 13:46 (thirteen years ago) link
wonder if jean-luc and woody did a joint bday party, when they were doing 'lear'
― rip whiney g weingarten 03/11 never forget (history mayne), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:56 (thirteen years ago) link
godard seems to enjoy being a rude twat
following lacan's edict of 'leave them wanting more'
― Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link
By the way (following up on the birthday greeting above), has anybody ever seen Letter to Mickey, where Godard and and his friend Jean-Pierre Gorin spend an hour deconstructing a still from Steamboat Willie? Fantastic.
― clemenza, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link
was this after Letter to Jane?
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Battle of the dry wits: I'm joking, but I'm not sure if you're joking or not. (This is like that slacker in the Simpsons "Homerpalooza" episode: "Oh, he's good." "Are you being ironic?" "Man, I don't even know anymore...")
― clemenza, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link
i saw some quote on tumblr recently from a filmmaker but i cant remember who, thought maybe it was godard, about how its the rich who want art to seem special & extraordinary, but we should work to make art everyday. it may not have been his. anyone know what im talking about?
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.carvalho-bernau.com/jlg/
― C0L1N B..., Sunday, 5 December 2010 04:43 (thirteen years ago) link
showing at the museum of fine arts in boston this week as part of a huppert retrospective
Every Man for Himself (Sauve qui peut (la vie) by Jean-Luc Godard (France, 1980, 89 min.). Employed by a television company, Paul is newly separated from his wife Denise. Isabelle (Huppert), a country girl, comes to the city to make a living as a prostitute. The three characters meet, talk, argue, have sex, and separate. A favorite Godard film among many scholars and critics, Every Man for Himself is a crucial and classic work of modern cinema. “So rich, dense, and subtle in imagery that I saw it twice…The film attacked me in what seemed to be a total way” (Gerald Peary, The Boston Phoenix). In French with English subtitles
― if nothing else this thread will result in some great display names (Edward III), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 20:59 (thirteen years ago) link
The film attacked me in what seemed to be a total way
― À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link
gerald peary assaulted by foreign film
― if nothing else this thread will result in some great display names (Edward III), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link
just saw Every Man for Himself for the first time since '81. Liked it but was not assaulted.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link
West End Cinema in DC is doing Breathless, Contempt & "Made in the USA" which has apparently never screened in the US til now? Saw Breathless (again) Saturday, gonna try to see Made in the USA this week.
― aka the pope (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 00:48 (thirteen years ago) link
p sure it has played in the US, but maybe only on the college film society circuit, or at nyff?
― ohhhh we plop champagne (history mayne), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 00:50 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i misread somewhere, apparently it was just 'not widely shown' in the us
― aka the pope (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 01:02 (thirteen years ago) link
i think a lot of his films never got a 'real' release, especially in the 1970s, but it's funny with 'made in usa' coz whatever else you might say about it, it has anna k at her most beuatiful... and also marianne faithfull, who i guess was marketable at the time too
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3461/3234442774_a9277a1247.jpg
think it's one of his best because -- i suppose my memory could be fucking with me but -- jlg himself kind of stays out of it
― ohhhh we plop champagne (history mayne), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Parts of Made In USA are great
― big up yourself and encounter (admrl), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 01:12 (thirteen years ago) link
the restored print of breathless is rad btw
― aka the pope (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 01:17 (thirteen years ago) link
did they fill in the jump cuts?
― jed_, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 02:59 (thirteen years ago) link
or cut down that one really long scene?
― "300" blows (admrl), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 03:03 (thirteen years ago) link
tempted to get the restored blu-ray JLG box set for xmas
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 08:30 (thirteen years ago) link
smash: AKdiscard: JLG
i cannot be the first to suggest...
― Today, if he makes a grunge (contenderizer), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 09:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Made in USA has some good scenes, and is attractive to look at, but is kinda silly.
― sarahel, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 09:39 (thirteen years ago) link
they're *all* kind of silly
at least 'made in usa' is attractive to look at
― ohhhh we plop champagne (history mayne), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 09:43 (thirteen years ago) link
made in usa is supposedly based on a richard stark novel (a gd one, too) but almost no trace of it remains in the godard film - it's a bit like fennesz 'covering' paint it black, nobody wld ever spot the source material unless they were told
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 10:17 (thirteen years ago) link
i've nvr read any maupassant but idk if his stories are discernible in 'masculin-feminin'... or 'stagecoach'
― ohhhh we plop champagne (history mayne), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 10:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Because neither Godard nor the producer paid the book's adaptation rights and following legal action by Westlake, the film was long unavailable in the United States. The film had its U.S. premiere on April 1, 2009 (three months after Westlake's death)
― fit and working again, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link
blimey. apparently it did play nyff in '67, but otherwise nup.
― ohhhh we plop champagne (history mayne), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Same point as above: I thought Made in USA was totally beautiful--that Marianne Faithfull still conveys the look of the film well--but quite silly.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
I saw Made in USA maybe a dozen years ago at NYC's Anthology Film Archives (a nonprofit where I've also seen Haynes' Superstar).
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Maupassant is great! U should read him
― Cristal Kieslowski (admrl), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:48 (thirteen years ago) link
i know :(
― ohhhh we plop champagne (history mayne), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Made in USA has had a few runs at Film Forum in the past couple years too.
― C0L1N B..., Wednesday, 15 December 2010 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link
pretty sure it screened recently at Berkeley's Pacific Film Archive
― sarahel, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link
so Film Socialisme opens in NY in 2 weeks... same 'Navajo' subtitles?
― the gay bloggers are onto the faggot tweets (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 May 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link