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strong card but this is kind of exactly the kind of thing i was thinking of when i was talking about how they should do planeswalkers. i do think this will be impactful on standard but i can't imagine it ever getting the moans that gideon AOZ has.

not a fan of the name tho.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 6 April 2017 16:05 (seven years ago) link

it is awkward that the EMN liliana is so good already and does similar stuff, i'd probably want a split of 1 of these and 2-3 of the EMN one in liliana decks for now

ciderpress, Thursday, 6 April 2017 16:15 (seven years ago) link

so Champion of Rhonas, there's no possible way this card is healthy at all

Moodles, Friday, 7 April 2017 18:21 (seven years ago) link

what the hell

frogbs, Friday, 7 April 2017 18:25 (seven years ago) link

not to be extremely magic player but it seems worse than marvel currently? and marvel isnt all the great rn

( ^_^) (Lamp), Friday, 7 April 2017 18:36 (seven years ago) link

did elvish piper ever see constructed play?

ciderpress, Friday, 7 April 2017 18:38 (seven years ago) link

this effect is never quite as good as you think, is what i'm getting at. at least on a tap ability on a creature.

ciderpress, Friday, 7 April 2017 18:41 (seven years ago) link

ha i was wondering the same thing so i did a quick mtgtop8 search and it was played in 12-post in modern before that deck got banned out. could not find any other finishes. also a popular edh card unsurprisingly

i like how all the trials are just replacements for the (should be) rotating oaths. having a hard time getting a handle and the new set: nothings all that powerful but lots of hate for vehicles.

( ^_^) (Lamp), Friday, 7 April 2017 18:41 (seven years ago) link

the embalm angel eats planeswalkers which is useful in standard

ciderpress, Friday, 7 April 2017 18:42 (seven years ago) link

this set reminds me of theros not only in the ancient civ theme but also in how unconcerned it seems with what's going on in the sets preceding it

ciderpress, Friday, 7 April 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link

does champion of rhonas have potential to be better right now than previous examples of this effect because of traverse?

there seem to be a fair amount of overlap with SOI but i guess unsurprisingly little connection with KLD

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 7 April 2017 18:57 (seven years ago) link

KLD is the classic example of the lifecycle of a set whose constructed-worthy mechanics are linear - it takes over standard on release when it's a large % of the cardpool and then its influence wanes as its decks can't get new cards. we saw the same thing with Theros and devotion. KLD has hit particularly hard because of how much of a bust BFZ was, there aren't really any allies or eldrazi decks competing for metagame share.

ciderpress, Friday, 7 April 2017 19:08 (seven years ago) link

does champion of rhonas have potential to be better right now than previous examples of this effect because of traverse?

traverse imposes a different set of deck-building constraints that dont match up all that well w/this card. maybe if theres a variety of interesting cycling cards that bridge that gap? idk. i think the big problem is that almost anything thats really powerful to cheat into play needs a cast trigger, which this card doesnt provide.

i normally dont care abt/pay attention to spoilers but the steady drip of cards is deeply irritating to me i just want to be able to see all the cards so i can start thinking abt the new formats

( ^_^) (Lamp), Friday, 7 April 2017 20:07 (seven years ago) link

http://mythicspoiler.com/akh/cards/bountyoftheluxa.jpg

feel like this is the most confusing way they could've templated this

frogbs, Sunday, 9 April 2017 02:18 (seven years ago) link

theres no good way to do it really but yeah

ciderpress, Sunday, 9 April 2017 02:18 (seven years ago) link

Really cool design for a card, at least

Vinnie, Sunday, 9 April 2017 03:08 (seven years ago) link

yeah no doubt

frogbs, Sunday, 9 April 2017 22:19 (seven years ago) link

got11th (11-2-2) at the scg open, lost for t8 on camera :(

iatee, Monday, 10 April 2017 02:15 (seven years ago) link

had a good on camera miracles blowout match earlier in the day too

iatee, Monday, 10 April 2017 02:16 (seven years ago) link

Sorry for the loss, but that's an awesome run and a great finish either way! Now I'm eager to see your footage. I missed most of today's coverage because I was busy playing like crap at a modern 1K.

Moodles, Monday, 10 April 2017 02:19 (seven years ago) link

playing your usual death&taxes deck? i didn't see any of the coverage

ciderpress, Monday, 10 April 2017 02:19 (seven years ago) link

yeah dnt w/ red splash

iatee, Monday, 10 April 2017 02:27 (seven years ago) link

what's the red for now that there's a white recruiter?

ciderpress, Monday, 10 April 2017 02:28 (seven years ago) link

oh moon man

ciderpress, Monday, 10 April 2017 02:29 (seven years ago) link

yeah moon in the main and cunning sparkmage and pia kiran in the board

iatee, Monday, 10 April 2017 02:32 (seven years ago) link

I beat elves twice w/ those cards and elves is a total nightmare matchup

iatee, Monday, 10 April 2017 02:32 (seven years ago) link

that's good shit dude, sorry you just missed

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 10 April 2017 02:40 (seven years ago) link

looks like Roar of the Wurm is back and even better

frogbs, Monday, 10 April 2017 21:26 (seven years ago) link

amused at all the people getting mad about the cycling force spike because it's not miscalculation. that's a pretty good card!

ciderpress, Monday, 10 April 2017 21:33 (seven years ago) link

I think this card will be quite good

iatee, Monday, 10 April 2017 22:22 (seven years ago) link

it seems like drake haven is getting enough support to be a deck, without even seeing all the black cycling cards yet

ciderpress, Monday, 10 April 2017 23:16 (seven years ago) link

I was gonna say, Censor looks like a card that will definitely get Standard play

Vinnie, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 02:09 (seven years ago) link

amused at all the people getting mad about the cycling force spike because it's not miscalculation. that's a pretty good card!

I know everyone on ilx etc etc but reddit really has been uniquely maddening this spoiler season, the particular blend of entitlement and metronome-regular getting every single card-evaluation wrong is so unbearable

Gravel Puzzleworth, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 14:13 (seven years ago) link

yeah the reddit MTG crowd is especially whiny. I mean most Magic online communities are but Reddit definitely seems a bit worse. Censor definitely looks like it'll see some play - it's worse than Miscalculation but I like that you can cycle it Turn 1 if you have a Turn 2 play, for example.

frogbs, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 14:20 (seven years ago) link

cool planeswalker design alert

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 15:03 (seven years ago) link

i wouldnt even look at the mtg reddit if it wasn't the board that's the fastest at getting all the preview card links in one place

ciderpress, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 15:05 (seven years ago) link

jk i would still look at it to read all the bad takes

ciderpress, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 15:06 (seven years ago) link

idk why nissa is blue now but that's at least an interesting pw card

ciderpress, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 15:06 (seven years ago) link

interplay between the 1st and 2nd ability is super sweet design imo. should stay on the good side of swingy rather than the marvel side. just seems like it has a ton of play to it, strong but pretty balanced.

oh yeah, didn't even think about the blue. weird

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 15:08 (seven years ago) link

zombie lord looks decent. interesting having that at uncommon. zombie deck will be overdrafted every time, clearly has ackbar.jpg written all over it.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 15:15 (seven years ago) link

yeah that Nissa design is cool, even if the ultimate is a bit underwhelming. Scry 2 is pretty interesting since you can't put either on the bottom for it to work with the 2nd ability. Also I was kinda wondering when they'd do a 'walker with an X in the cost

Green god looks awesome

frogbs, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 15:26 (seven years ago) link

the ultimate is only underwhelming if you were expecting to be able to cast a 8 mana 'you win the game' or whatever, and that didn't work out so well with emrakul. it has to be something that doesn't auto-win.

ciderpress, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 15:28 (seven years ago) link

its more the fact that the lands revert at end of turn, you'd expect a Nissa ultimate to make them creatures permanently

that said it is kind of an instant 10 damage in a lot of cases, so maybe not so bad

frogbs, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 16:06 (seven years ago) link

whoa Harsh Mentor seems like a pretty efficient combo killer and potentially maindeckable, if the environment's right

frogbs, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 15:44 (seven years ago) link

doesn't trigger on planeswalker activated abilities :(

ciderpress, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 17:13 (seven years ago) link

it's def gonna see legacy play, prob has some role in modern

iatee, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 17:49 (seven years ago) link

someone's going to make a hilarious deck with this:

http://mythicspoiler.com/akh/cards/shadowofthegrave.html

frogbs, Thursday, 13 April 2017 13:01 (seven years ago) link

looks like it has the potential to cause mischief somewhere

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 13 April 2017 13:05 (seven years ago) link

that looks like a card that does something in eternal formats if anywhere

ciderpress, Thursday, 13 April 2017 13:21 (seven years ago) link

very good with Contract from Below

frogbs, Thursday, 13 April 2017 13:41 (seven years ago) link


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